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The List
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: March 30, 2021 08:46PM

You've got to hate these people angry smiley

The Left has made a list of the 12 most prominent Anti-Vaxxers and are out to destroy them.

12 prominent people opposed to vaccines are responsible for two-thirds of anti-vaccine content online: report

Watchdog groups call them the "Disinformation Dozen."

[thehill.com]

* Misinformation about COVID-19 and the vaccine is threatening public health efforts to inoculate Americans against the virus.

* A new report from the Center for Countering Digital Hate and Anti-Vax Watch found that most of the anti-vaccine content circulating online can be tied to 12 people.

* The list includes prominent people who oppose vaccines, such as Robert F. Kennedy, whose Instagram account was permanently removed earlier this year.

They've been dubbed the "Disinformation Dozen": 12 individuals or organizations are tied to up to 65 percent of anti-vaccine content circulating on major social media networking sites, according to an analysis of popular anti-vaccine content on Facebook and Twitter.

“Disinformation has become a direct threat to public health,” said Imran Ahmed, CEO of the Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH), which released the report in partnership with the Anti-Vax Watch, in a release. “In the midst of a global pandemic, the Anti-Vaccine Industry has executed a targeted campaign to mislead Americans about the safety of the COVID-19 vaccines. Social media is enabling anti-vaxxers to recruit millions of Americans and indoctrinate them with fear and doubt. If Big Tech companies don’t act now, the pandemic will be prolonged, and more lives will be lost.”

The report accuses Robert F. Kennedy Jr. — who was banned from Instagram last month — Joseph Mercola, Ty and Charlene Bollinger — whose Twitter accounts were briefly suspended at the beginning of the pandemic — Sherri Tenpenny, Rizza Islam, Rashid Buttar, Erin Elizabeth, Sayer Ji, Kelly Brogan, Christiane Northrup, Ben Tapper and Kevin Jenkins of spreading disinformation and claims that their social media accounts "have repeatedly violated Facebook and Twitter’s terms of service agreements." And the CCDH has receipts — the report is full of screenshots of “example violations” that range from misleading to antisemitic.

Several of these users have responded online, calling the report a “hitlist” and accusing the CCDH of trying to "control us with tricks & lies."

But the CCDH said the responses were only proof that their “campaign to get anti-vaccine propagandists off social media is working.” The timing of the report also coincides with a joint hearing in Congress that will put Google CEO Sundar Pichai, Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey and Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg back in the hot seat over the spread of misinformation on their platforms, this time for its role in the insurrection on the United States Capitol in January.

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A spokesperson for Twitter noted that the platform has removed over 20,000 posts from the platform and challenged nearly 12 million accounts under its coronavirus misinformation policy.

"We will not take action on every instance of misinformation. In order for content related to COVID-19 to be labeled or removed under this policy, it must: advance a claim of fact, expressed in definitive terms; be demonstrably false or misleading, based on widely available, authoritative sources; and be likely to impact public safety or cause serious harm," they explained.

Facebook spokesperson Kevin McAlister told The Hill that the platform has "already taken action against some of the groups in this report."

"Since research shows that the best way to combat vaccine hesitancy is to connect people to reliable information from health experts, we’ve also connected over 2 billion people to resources from health authorities, including through our COVID-19 Information Center," he added.

Public health officials have warned against misinformation spread by the anti-vaccine movement, which began even before COVID-19 vaccines had been developed and grown online amid mixed messages from officials.

“This week, the CEOs of Facebook, Twitter and Google will appear before the U.S. House Energy and Commerce Committee to discuss the role of social media in the spread of disinformation,” Ahmed said in the release. “Members of the committee must use this opportunity to hold these companies accountable and urge them to follow through with their commitments to crack down on life-threatening disinformation. A clear and immediate way to stop the spread of anti-vaccine messages is to remove the Disinformation Dozen from their platforms.”

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The Center for Countering Digital Hate is like the SPLC - making a hit list of Conservatives who have a differing opinion than The Left.

[twitter.com]



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Re: The List
Posted by: John Rose ()
Date: March 30, 2021 09:49PM

JR Insert from “Robert F. Kennedy Jr.” file...
As noted in Kennedy’s October 24, 2020, online speech,13 “International Message of Hope for Humanity” — which kicked off a day of protest against the coup d’état by the technocratic elite — we must shed our imaginary fears, reject media fearmongering, insist on freedom of speech and engage in the democratic process.

“The only way we can win it is with democracy,” he said. “We need to fight to get our democracy back, to reclaim our democracy from these villains who are stealing it from us. Notice the people who are getting richest from this quarantine are the same people who are censoring criticism of the quarantine.”

Kennedy also stressed another crucial point, namely the need to unify. We must put aside our quibbles over nonessential things like race, religion and political affiliations, and stay laser-focused on the real enemy.

“What the Big Tech villains … want us to do is fight with each other. They want Blacks fighting against whites. They want republicans fighting against democrats. They want everybody polarized. They want everybody fragmented because they know that if we all get together, we’re going to start asking questions and those are questions they can’t answer ...


If you’re a republican or democrat, stop talking about that. Stop identifying yourself. The enemy is Big Tech, Big Data, Big Oil, Big Pharma, the medical cartel, the government totalitarian elements that are trying to oppress us, that are trying to rob us of our liberties, of our democracy, of our freedom of thought, of our freedom of expression, of our freedom of assembly and all of the freedoms that give dignity to humanity ...
End of JR Insert from “Robert F. Kennedy Jr.” file.

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Re: The List
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: March 31, 2021 12:19AM

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John Rose

If you’re a republican or democrat, stop talking about that. Stop identifying yourself. The enemy is Big Tech, Big Data, Big Oil, Big Pharma, the medical cartel, the government totalitarian elements that are trying to oppress us, that are trying to rob us of our liberties, of our democracy, of our freedom of thought, of our freedom of expression, of our freedom of assembly and all of the freedoms that give dignity to humanity ...
End of JR Insert from “Robert F. Kennedy Jr.” file.

Well, like I said a while back - I like the division so we know who our enemies are.

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It's not 'Republican' vs. 'Democrat.' That's too general. It's RINOs, The Establishment Republicans, The Deep State, The Elite, The Globalists, The Communists, Marxists, Dictators, etc. vs. Libertarians/Constitutional Conservatives.

On this Issue Relating to Covid - It's The Sheeple vs. The Free Thinkers, The Maskers vs. The Anti-Maskers, The Vaxxers vs. The Anti-Vaxxers.

KNOW THINE ENEMY!

They fight dirty!

So are WE all supposed to stand around holding hands, singing Kumbaya, saying:

"Can't we all just get along?"

No, The Statists, Sheeple, Maskers, Vaxxers HATE US! I don't want to get along with them. They'd kill us in a minute if they could. At the least they'd lock us inside for years, force us to wear a mask for the rest of our lives and strap us down and force us to get vaccinated.

THE STATISTS vs. THE ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT.

I for one will not be joining hands with The Other Side. And there's no way they're going to be joining forces with us against 'them'/The Establishment - because 'they' - The Statists, Sheeple, Maskers, Vaxxers - are the problem - the ENABLERS of The Establishment. The Statists, Sheeple, Maskers, Vaxxers Love the Covid, Scamdemic, Plandemic, Masking, Lockdowns, Vaccines. They love the Scientists, the 'Experts', the CDC, the WHO, etc., etc., etc. They Love THE OFFICIAL NARRATIVE.

They - The Statists, Sheeple, Maskers, Vaxxers - are my Enemy.

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John Rose
The enemy is Big Tech, Big Data, Big Oil, Big Pharma, the medical cartel, the government totalitarian elements that are trying to oppress us, that are trying to rob us of our liberties, of our democracy, of our freedom of thought, of our freedom of expression, of our freedom of assembly and all of the freedoms that give dignity to humanity ...


Oh, and by the way, it just so happens that The Enemy -

"Big Tech, Big Data, Big Oil, Big Pharma, the medical cartel, the government totalitarian elements that are trying to oppress us, that are trying to rob us of our liberties, of our democracy, of our freedom of thought, of our freedom of expression, of our freedom of assembly and all of the freedoms that give dignity to humanity"

and - The Covid Enemy - The Statists, Sheeple, Maskers, Vaxxers -

- are all pretty much THE LEFT ...

... which was one of my original points ...

So I will talk about The Left - because it was The Left of the World - aka The Deep State, The Elite, The Globalists, The Communists, Marxists, Dictators, Big Tech, Big Data, Big Oil, Big Pharma, the medical cartel, the government totalitarian elements, etc. - who orchestrated this Plandemic, Scamdemic, Covid Coup - leading to the Stolen Election among other crap that's still unfolding.

AND IT WAS ALL WITH THE ENABLING, THE BLESSING, THE APPROVAL of - The Covid Enemy - The Statists, Sheeple, Maskers, Vaxxers.

So no way in hell am I joining forces with those as*wipes when they hate my guts and they'd kill us in a New York minute if they could. We have no common enemy because they are in TOTAL APPROVAL OF ALL THIS CRAPOLA and EVERYONE WHO IS ORCHESTRATING IT.

But I'm repeating myself.

I'll say it one more time:

The Statists, Sheeple, Maskers, Vaxxers LOVE THIS SCAMDEMIC, PLANDEMIC, COVID COUP and ARE ENABLING AND LOVE The Deep State, The Elite, The Globalists, The Communists, Marxists, Dictators, Big Tech, Big Data, Big Oil, Big Pharma, the medical cartel, the government totalitarian elements, etc.

Not joining forces with them so they can defeat us yet again as they've been doing for 100 years since Woodrow Wilson. They're Evil Geniuses. Isn't it about time our side stepped up to the plate for once instead of doing nothing or giving in ...

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Re: The List
Posted by: John Rose ()
Date: March 31, 2021 01:39AM

<<<It's not 'Republican' vs. 'Democrat.' That's too general. It's RINOs, The Establishment Republicans, The Deep State, The Elite, The Globalists, The Communists, Marxists, Dictators, etc. vs. Libertarians/Constitutional Conservatives.>>>

"The Left" is too general and YOU create DIVISION every time you say "The Left" because so my people identity with "The Left"!

“You have to break through and chatter through that Paradigm that says it’s Left versus Right - Republican versus Democrat because it’s Not - it’s Liberty versus Suppression.” -Ben Swann


Remember, "The Globalists" want us to fight amongst ourselves, which is why Kennedy said, "If you’re a republican or democrat, stop talking about that. Stop identifying yourself."

"Now, what does all of this mean in this great period of history? It means that we've got to stay together. We've got to stay together and maintain unity. You know, whenever Pharaoh wanted to prolong the period of slavery in Egypt, he had a favorite, favorite formula for doing it. What was that? He kept the slaves fighting among themselves. But whenever the slaves get together, something happens in Pharaoh's court, and he cannot hold the slaves in slavery. When the slaves get together, that's the beginning of getting out of slavery. Now let us maintain unity." -Martin Luther King, Jr, "I've Been to the Mountaintop"

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Re: The List
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: March 31, 2021 02:33AM

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John Rose

"The Left" is too general and YOU create DIVISION every time you say "The Left" because so many people identity with "The Left"!


The Left IS The Party of Division with their IDENTITY POLITICS.

So we can't even say "The Left", let alone stand up for ourselves or God Forbid fight back?

Nah, I'm not into that eye rolling smiley

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And as far as "The Left" is too general -

I don't just say "The Left" - the topic would be about The Issue and I would state The Left's stance on The Issue and give my opinion relating to The Issue.

In other words, I speak of "The Left" in relation to AN ISSUE. And I compare it to my or The Right's opinion or stance on THAT ISSUE.

For example, regarding THE ISSUE of Universal Health Care. THE LEFT would like Government Health Care and Me and THE RIGHT would not like Government Health Care.

I don't call that 'creating division' - I call that Talking Politics.

How about Pro-Life and Pro-Abortion Issue. If I say THE LEFT is Pro-Abortion, is that 'creating division'.

If I say "Communists" is that 'creating division'.

If I say "Christians" is that 'creating division'.

In other words, everybody is different and everybody has different opinions and different beliefs.

Therefore - EVERYBODY IS DIVIDED and THERE IS ALWAYS DIVISION. And you would have to agree with everybody about everything - which is impossible - TO NOT 'CREATE DIVISION'.

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Or is it like - we're not allowed to say 'the N-word' because it's so bad.

So now, we're not allowed to say "The Left"?

The Right is now totally powerless because they're not allowed to even say "The Left"?

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Re: The List
Posted by: John Rose ()
Date: March 31, 2021 12:28PM

What exactly is it about DIVIDE & CONQUER that you don't understand?

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Re: The List
Posted by: fresh ()
Date: March 31, 2021 09:21PM

I understand Jen's position and JR's also.

I don't know how far these psychos will get in their plans - and it sounds rather dystopian below. we will see. should be interesting. posting this for some fragments that are relevant below.


here's some from iain davis

COVID 19 is being used to create a global fascist dictatorship. From New Zealand to the the U.S, so called western democracies have adopted and developed the Chinese model of technocracy to create a single biosecurity State.

This globalist corporate State is to be centrally controlled and administered by a distant global governance cartel of appointed bureaucrats. Tasked only to serve the interests of a tiny, disproportionately wealthy group we can call the parasite class.

Every aspect of your life will be monitored and controlled, as we move towards the ultimate surveillance State. Your ability to work, to socialise, to travel, conduct business, access public services and to purchase essential goods and services will be dictated to you, and restricted, by the State, based upon your biosecurity or immunity status.

This transformation process is well underway. You are no longer a human being, you are a biosecurity risk. As such you may be removed to a military controlled quarantine camp as and when the State sees fit. Detention without trial will be the norm. All protest will be outlawed unless the protest suits the agenda of the parasite class.


You will not leave home without it.

Your children will no longer be your own. They will belong to the State. Parental consent for medical procedures will be presumed or, in the case of mandatory procedures, not required. Once the biosecurity State is firmly established consent will be a distant memory.

We have a diminishing window of opportunity to stop this global fascist dictatorship. Violent protest will not work. Not only are they morally indefensible, they are tactically naive.

Violence is the language of the oppressor. The global State holds total dominion over instigation of the use of force. To crack down, in response to a violent uprising, is the fervent hope of the oppressor. It allows the State to exercise more, not less, authoritarian control.

In reality, to stop it, all we need to do is refuse, en masse, to comply. We must do this with our eyes open. It won’t be easy and many of us will face harsh punishment from a desperate tyrant. However, if we don’t stand up now, we are condemning future generations to unimaginable levels of slavery and misery.

In order to foist this upon us, the apparatus behind it has invested billions in propaganda. The fascist technocracy, presently being constructed at an alarming pace, requires our cooperation. Without it, the biosecurity dictatorship cannot gain its desired authority.

Our representative democratic systems are not what our forebears gave everything to build. The parasite class have hollowed them out, replacing the organs of State with their own, leaving only the shell as a chimera to maintain our delusions and keep us believing that we have a semblance of control.

It is a fool’s errand to attempt to use their system to win our freedom. It is designed to control us. Appeals to their courts will never deliver justice to us. Temporary, small victories will always be overturned. Nor can we vote harder expecting yet another of their puppets to save us.

The purpose of the representative democratic apparition is to centralise all global power in the hands of the parasite class. This course is inexorable and, while we persist in our electoral folly, we will not alter it.

We must build something new to replace it. The obvious solution is the decentralisation of all power to the individual. We must construct a voluntary society.

Without us, without our obedience, the parasite class is currently nothing but a group of ineffectual, wannabe plutocrats, sat on piles of paper, created from nothing and worth nothing. If we don’t obey, there are no rulers.

Should we refuse to use their monetary system, their usury will be fruitless; if we decide not to pay their taxes, we cut will off their economic exploitation and if we never vote for their bureaucrats we won’t consent to their nominated, elected aristocracy.

We are the scientists and the engineers, the doctors and the nurses; we are the builders and the architects, the mechanics and the farmers; we are the soldiers who kill and die for their enrichment, we are the police officers who enforce their unlawful rules; we are the people who build and work in their factories, we are the office workers and bank clerks who administer their system, the shop workers, the programmers, the writers, the artists, the teachers and we are the people who, through our belief in their mythical authority, allow the parasite class to control us.

We are the meek, we are the receivers of all knowledge and all wisdom. We possess all the technology we need and we are the experts. It is our world, leased from our future generations, not theirs. Without us the parasite class are utterly incapable of controlling anyone or anything.

We must create, not destroy. We must liberate science, technology, art and knowledge itself from their occult control. We must build alternative decentralised systems, enabling humanity to live as a coexistence of free, sovereign beings. We must focus upon self sufficiency, we must support each other, turn our backs on the control systems of the parasitic State and build our own autonomous communities.

We must refuse to comply with any and all attempts to centralise power. We can do this by rejecting, outright, the concept of authority.

No one ever has any right to tell anyone else what to do. But nor does anyone ever have the right to cause any harm or loss to another human being. We can live in harmony because we are capable of respecting each other equally, without reservation. We know this.

Not a single human being on this Earth has the right to order any other to obey their authority. None of us possess this power. Therefore, this power can never be derived from us. We do not have it to give. The State’s claim of authority, gleaned from their electoral anointment ceremony, is a charade. Their authority does not exist in reality, only in our imaginations.

We don’t need anyone to tell us how to live. Nor how to deal with the tiny minority incapable of taking responsibility for their own actions. A voluntary society would be a society without rulers, not a society without rules.

We don’t need their systems of authority to live in relative peace and harmony and we never have. Spontaneous order is all around us. We already live the overwhelming majority of our lives free from State control and without the need for anyone to impose any rulers upon us.


A disease, or a control mechanism?
With a few exceptions, no State compels the farmer to grow crops, no State coerces labourers to pick the harvest or engineers to design and operate packing plants and no State forces anyone to transport the produce to market nor any consumer to buy it.

This system isn’t controlled by any single authority. It is an intricate, often global, network of free individuals, each acting in their own best interests, creating a harmonious social order way beyond the operational control of any State. The State has no part in this social order of immeasurable complexity.

This ordered social construct, bringing food to the family table, is entirely voluntary. Our society is built from millions of such systems and trillions of voluntary actions and exchanges that happen every day. The voluntary society already exists. All we need do is recognise it, and then seize it. The State is, and always has been, entirely unnecessary. It is a hindrance, not a utility.

What benefit does the State and its regulation bring to our food supply chains? It claims to protect it. Protect for whom?

It removes the free market to protect the profits of multinational corporations. It imposes taxes, raising everyone’s costs, to pay for its wars of neocolonialist exploitation. It forces wages down, it cuts the margins for everyone from growers to retailers, pushing some into poverty to be preyed upon by the same corporate State.

Its food standard regulations, supposedly designed to keep us safe, effectively reduce food quality, creates massive waste, reduces nutrition, causes more sickness and lengthens the queues at the pharmacy. Again for the benefit of the parasite class and their pharmaceutical corporations.

In a truly voluntary, free market what would a supplier gain from providing low quality, expensive produce to consumers? They would quickly go out of business.

Only State regulations can possibly facilitate lowering quality, while raising prices, without anyone in the supply chain, other than the oligarchs at the top, profiting from it. Corporate profit is the bottom line and the State’s sole purpose is to protect it.

Yet, somehow, we remain convinced that society could not possibly order itself spontaneously, without the forced coercion of the State. Despite the fact that, in great measure, it already does. We neither lack the ability nor the knowledge to build a voluntary society. We lack the confidence, because this pernicious system is purpose built to rob us of it.

We are taught, practically from birth, that respecting authority is a virtue. To obey is to be good, disobedience is punished. What could we be if instead we taught our children to think critically, that all of us have equal, inalienable rights, never to cause harm or loss and to take responsibility for themselves because there is no claimed protection from any authority?

Unfortunately, once we enter the education system the doctrine of authority is vigorously reinforced through perpetual repetition and the systemic application of reward and punishment. We are taught what we are allowed to know. This prepares us to be productive workers and responsible members of the State.

We are then permitted to work until we are no longer productive, with every last ounce of profit milked from us, as we shuffle off to our graves on pharmaceutical life support, before the State swoops in to hoover up the remnants of our lives.

This is not done for our benefit. We are programmed to believe in the farcical notion of a benevolent State. A State which exclusively serves the parasite class and one in which our lives are the real commodity.

COVID 19 is not a high impact infectious disease, it has low mortality rates and is absolutely comparable to influenza. It isn’t even clear that is can be identified as a disease at all. Sadly, it seems the vast majority of us are so adapted to our authoritarian environment that we are incapable of ever questioning anything we are told by our superiors.


“Non-Violent Resistance”
by Judy Baca

COVID 19 is nothing more than a casus belli for the Third World War. As the representatives of the State openly admit, that war is a hybrid war. Just as there is no such thing as a healthy human being, nor is there any distinction between war and peace.

All is war and we are the enemy. The military objective is to grind us into docile and compliant slaves, serving the new normal State.

We must face reality. In the new normal, driven by the “Fourth Industrial Revolution,” our labour is no longer required. We are destined only to consume, and that consumption is to be ruthlessly controlled. As are we.

There is no black and no white, no right-wing nor any leftists, there is no gay and no straight, no Republicans nor Democrats, no Conservatives nor Labour supporters. These are just some of the divisions forced upon us by the parasite class, and its compliant lapdog the mainstream media, to keep us divided and to stop us realising the truth.

We are in this together. All of us. No matter where we live or what we believe. We are all part of a single, inviolable truth.

Call it God, Allah, Yahweh, the Divine Spirit, the Universe, Mother Earth or Natural Law, there is one truth and we all understand it. Cause no harm, cause no loss, take responsibility for our actions and treat all with compassion and respect.

We are not merely a random cluster of atoms. We are sovereign spiritual beings. We have purpose and every life has inestimable value. We stand together or divided we fall.

You have a choice. Choose wisely.

Resist!

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Re: The List
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: April 01, 2021 02:01AM

Thank you, Fresh, for your diplomacy. smiling smiley

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Re: The List
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: April 02, 2021 05:47PM

Here's the link to Fresh's first article in the Off-Guardian by Iain Davis -

[off-guardian.org]

Here's Iain Davis' other articles -

[off-guardian.org]

I like the Off-Guardian website!

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From the article, he sounds Libertarian talking of a Voluntary Society and Free Market:

"We must build something new to replace it. The obvious solution is the decentralisation of all power to the individual. We must construct a voluntary society."

"In a truly voluntary, free market what would a supplier gain from providing low quality, expensive produce to consumers?"

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He also says:

"There is no black and no white, no right-wing nor any leftists, there is no gay and no straight, no Republicans nor Democrats, no Conservatives nor Labour supporters. These are just some of the divisions forced upon us by the parasite class, and its compliant lapdog the mainstream media, to keep us divided and to stop us realising the truth.

We are in this together. All of us. No matter where we live or what we believe. We are all part of a single, inviolable truth."

Yet here in this article of his, he makes a DIVISION himself! and he makes my point -

(Just substitute the words "Stupid Sheeple" or "True Believers" for what Iain Davis calls "Anti-Rationalists"winking smiley

We Must Inoculate Ourselves Against The Crazy Anti-Rationalists

[in-this-together.com]

Anti-rationalists are incapable of independent thought and need to be told what to believe by someone, some body or organisation, they consider to be important. They call these carefully selected important people and groups “reliable sources.”

It isn’t entirely clear what constitutes a reliable source for the anti-rationalist but they appear to range from globalist think tanks and appointed world health authority officials, to mainstream media hacks, multinational corporation spokespersons, the right scientists, fact-checkers and government representatives.

For anti-rationalists any questioning of their faith is evidence of the “perversity of human psychology.”

Because anti-rationalism is based upon faith and belief, rather than empirical evidence, its acolytes are often forced to fall back on the popular falsehoods they have been spoon-fed.

Anti-rationalists think anyyone who questions their tightly restricted, officially approved, science is just too dumb to understand it. Therefore, while refusing even to acknowledge, let alone discuss, the science they don’t agree with, they propose we should instead listen to anti-rationalist celebrities.

The Authoritarian Certainty of Anti-Rationalist Scientism

For the anti-rationalist a restricted, officially approved, tranche of medical science has transcended into the puritanical certainty of “scientism.” All that is required is an announcement, from their priests and priestesses in white coats, for the anti-rationalist to obey without hesitation. This mindless obedience is damned useful if you are a government that wants to control the behaviour of your population.

All the government needs to do is say all their decisions are “led by the science” and the anti-rationalists will throw themselves on the bandwagon quicker than the State can say “for the general good.” This technique is predicated upon the anti-rationalist aversion to ever reading any of the “wrong science.” Or any of the right science for that matter.

The wrong science is the science that doesn’t agree with the predetermined political, social or economic agenda. Providing the mainstream media only report the “right science,” and tell the anti-rationalists that all the other science, which disproves or question their faith, is “crazy,” the authoritarians are good to go. Safe in the knowledge that the devout anti-rationalist will never question anything told to them by one of the government’s (or their multinational corporation partner’s) pet scientific experts.

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My whole point in the above rant that John called 'division' is -

In the case of this Plandemic, there is a DIVISION - that Division is ...

THE STUPID SHEEPLE versus WE COVID SKEPTICS.

The Stupid Sheeple (True Believers) are all in on believing that:

This is a Pandemic
Lockdowns
Masks
Social Distancing
VACCINES

And We Skeptics do not.

And my Bigger Point is -

The Stupid Sheeple also are Enabling at the least, and at the most are Fine and Dandy with 'THEY' who are doing this to us, and even what 'THEY' have in mind for our NEW NORMAL.

So the Stupid Sheeple/True Believers have Thrown in With the Plandemic Planners and are not going to be Uniting with the likes of We Skeptics.

And all the "Division, division, division...", "Divide and Conquer", "We Must Unite", are WE SKEPTICS trying to get the ENABLING STUPID SHEEPLE to become SKEPTICS with us to Fight the PLANNERS OF THE PLANDEMIC.

Ain't Gonna Happen!



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Re: The List
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: April 02, 2021 07:06PM

One Amazing thing that this Plandemic showed us is -

All THE STUPID SHEEPLE in the World!

And that The Stupid Sheeple are Complicit and are ONE REASON that The Planners of the Plandemic are able to pull this Covid Coup off and to continue it and keep it going and do almost whatever else they have in store for us!

So I for one don't only blame Whoever at the Top is doing this to us - But The Stupid Sheeple are To Blame!

Duh!

They are our Enemy, also! And I'm glad they have Been Identified, Glad of this Division to know who's a Stupid Sheeple and who's not.

It's Natural to Want to Be With and Gravitate to Like-Minded People!

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And about saying "Stupid Sheeple" ...

Yes - just the word 'Sheeple' is derogatory. And the word 'Stupid' I was actually going to not use, but this morning I saw this video which explains, "Stupid."

And now I Love the word 'Stupid' as part of vocabulary and in articulation! And 'Stupid' goes together with Sheeple perfectly!

"Everyone is Ignoring This"

(The difference between Stupidity and Ignorance.)

[www.brighteon.com]

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Re: The List
Posted by: John Rose ()
Date: April 02, 2021 10:23PM

"Everyone is Ignoring This" - PREPARE NOW! By Anonymous official
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And so, intelligence has nothing to do with ignorance or stupidity, intelligence is the raw, cognitive ability to process information, but stupidity is a choice. Cognitive Dissonance, at a certain point, is going to define whether a group of people or species itself is going to ultimately survive or not. 2:30 MM

Cognitive Dissonance = FEAR - NOT Stupidity

This guy talks about Fear later in the video, but uses it to explain why those who are awake don't stand up to be an example.

Watch the video below, which is a snippet from 1,500 Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, where they point out that FEAR is the reason why some people cannot handle the TRUTH!


Fear, Trauma & Cognitive Dissonance - Fear No Evil - Part 1 - [www.youtube.com]
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Posted by: John Rose ()
Date: April 02, 2021 10:43PM

Ignorance or Stupidity? - [www.youtube.com]

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Don’t you just love it when someone wants to argue about a place they’ve never been? That might be the difference between Ignorance and Stupidity. As Will Rogers said, “Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects.” But what makes you Stupid is when you want argue about something and you don’t know anything about it.

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Posted by: fresh ()
Date: April 02, 2021 11:08PM

Like the other day I was trying to inform a doctor on the scamdemic
and the response
was "I saw people live and I saw them die" don't tell me I'm brainwashed"

ok, doc, any evidence of a virus?
silence.

stupid.
brainwashing.

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Posted by: John Rose ()
Date: April 03, 2021 12:07AM

When Dr. Day developed breast cancer, people came up to her and said that there were alternatives and she said, no there's not, I'm a doctor and if there were, I would know about it. Of course, she finally woke up and admitted that there's a whole library of knowledge that she didn't know existed.

Now I would never call Dr. Day stupid, but there for a moment, she was blinded by her training, but as Aristotle once said, “It is the mark of an intelligent mind, to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.” Indeed, it's not easy for most doctors to admit they've been duped. They have Knowledge Filters and are subject to Unrealistic Optimism - see video below.

Everyone, especially scientists, has "knowledge filters" on their brains so that when any new knowledge comes along that threatens their existing paradigm, they filter it out. This is what Dr. Richard Thompson said about "knowledge filters." "This is a fundamental feature of science, it’s also a fundamental feature of human nature. People tend to filter out things that don’t fit, that don’t make sense in their terms of their paradigm or their way of thinking. So, in science you find that evidence that doesn’t fit the excepted paradigm tends to be eliminated - it’s not taught, it’s not discussed and people who are educated in scientific teachings generally don’t even know about it. ... It’s not necessarily a deliberate conspiracy in the sense of some people getting together in a smoke filled room and saying we’re going to deceive people. It’s something that happens automatically within the scientific community. So, when a given piece of evidence disagrees with the predominate theory, then automatically people won’t talk about it, they won’t report it and that means that science fails to progress in the way that one would hope."

Cognitive Dissonance, Normalcy Bias & Unrealistic Optimism - Part 2 of Fear No Evil - [www.youtube.com]
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Posted by: John Rose ()
Date: April 03, 2021 08:29PM

Here are my notes on that Documentary "1,500 Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth" where they point out that FEAR is the reason why some people cannot handle the TRUTH, which I used as Part 1 to Fear, Trauma & Cognitive Dissonance - Fear No Evil - Part 1 - [www.youtube.com]

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1:52:11 MM
Seeking Understanding
9/11: Coming to Terms


Most of us who have lived with the events of 9/11 have, as a result, experienced some kind of Trauma. It can be very difficult to come to terms with what actually happened at the World Trade Center. In fact, someone told me recently - I wouldn’t believe what you’re telling me even if it were True. Our Petition Signers with Psychological Expertise have stepped forward to offer their insight. While this section is clearly outside the Knowledge base of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth these Experts in Psychology highlight their valuable experience for us as to why this Evidence can still be so difficult for people to accept.

“At this point we have 9 years of hard Scientific Evidence that Dis-Proves the Government Theory about what happened on September 11th and yet, people continue to be either oblivious to the fact that this Information exists or are completely resistant to looking at this Information. So the Question becomes - why, why is it that people have so much trouble hearing this Information? From my work I think people would be remiss not to look at the impact of Trauma. My name is Marti Hopper and I’m a Ph.D. Psychologist and I’ve been working and living for the past 30 years here in Bolder Colorado. For the past 11 years my work has focused on helping people who have experienced personal Trauma. Now as we know the horrors that happened were televised all over the world and they were, in fact, televised live. We witnessed the deaths of almost 3,000 of our fellow Americans. We know this had a very severe and Traumatic impact on a large majority of the population. I myself cried for weeks after September 11th. A friend of mine, who is a Psychologist and has a practice here in Bolder, said that her case load increased tremendously after 9/11 and people she hadn’t seen in 10 years were coming back into her practice. So I think it’s safe to say that, Collectively as a Nation, because of what happened on September 11th we experienced Trauma.” -Marti Hopper, Ph.D.

“I’m Fran Shure and I have a Master’s Degree from the University of Colorado. I have a private practice as a Psychotherapist and am a licensed Professional Counselor for about 20 years. Why do people resist this Information - the information that shows the Official Story about 9/11 cannot be True? What I’ve learned is that, as humans, each of us have a World View and that World View is usually formed in great part by the Culture that we grow up in. When we hear Information that Contradicts our World View, Social Psychologists call the resulting Insecurity - Cognitive Dissonance. For example, with 9/11 we have one Cognition which is what the Official Story of 9/11 - what our Government told us - what our Media repeated to us over and over - that 19 Muslims attacked us. On the other hand, we have what Scientists, Researchers, Architects, Engineers are now beginning to tell us, which is that there is Evidence that shows that the Official Story CANNOT be True. So now, we’ve Lost our Sense of Security. We are starting to Feel Vulnerable. Now we’re Confused.” -Frances Shure, M.A.

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1:55:54 MM
“9/11 Truth challenges some of our most fundamental Beliefs about our Government and about our Country. When your Beliefs are challenged or when 2 Beliefs are Inconsistent, Cognitive Dissonance is created. 9/11 Truth challenges the Beliefs that our Country protects us and keeps us safe and that America is the Good Guy. My name is Bob Hopper and I have a Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology from the University of Cincinnati. For the past 29 years, I’ve been a licensed Ph.D. Clinical Psychologist in Bolder Colorado. When your Beliefs are challenged, Fear and Anxiety are created. In response to that, our Psychological Defenses kick in and they protect us from these Emotions. Denial, which is probably the most Primitive Psychological Defense, is the one most likely to kick in when our Beliefs are challenged.” -Robert Hopper, Ph.D.

I’m Danielle Duperet, Ph.D. originally from Switzerland where I studied Psychology and Psycho-Analysis. For the past 15 years, I’ve been empowering people who have experienced significant Trauma. America is a powerful Nation. It has never been attacked. We were confident, we felt secure and all of a sudden that security collapsed. People started to be Fearful with all those rumors and news - people didn’t know what to think about and it’s a very, very Uncomfortable State to be in. And eventually, our Mind Shuts Off, just like when a computer is overloaded, our Minds get overloaded - we can’t handle it anymore and we Shut Down. It’s easier to Deny it and move on with our lives.” -Danielle Duperet, Ph.D.

What some of us tend to do is Deny the Evidence that’s coming our way and stick to the Original Story - the Official Story and to try to regain our equilibrium that way. Another thing we can do is decide to look at the Conflicting Evidence and be sincere and be Open Minded and look at both Sides of the Issue and then, make up our own mind about what Reality is.” [JR: One-Valued Logic vs. Two-Valued Logic] -Marti Hopper, Ph.D.

I’m Dorothy Lorig - I have a Master’s Degree in Counseling Psychology from the University of Colorado and I’ve been practicing Revaluation Counseling for over 16 years. If we can think of our World View as being sort of our Mental and Emotional Home, I think all of us will do just about anything to Defend our Homes, to Defend our Families and so I see that with people and I saw this with myself when my brother tried to talk with me about it. Don’t mess with me. Don’t mess with my home. Don’t mess with my comfort with how things are. In about a week later, I read a lengthy article by Professor Griffin about why he believes the Official Account of 9/11 CANNOT be True. And it was a very well researched article and I was in my office at that time. I sat there and I felt my stomach churning. I thought maybe I was going to be sick and I leaped out of my chair and ran out the door and took a long walk around the block, around several blocks and just broke down. I understand now that what was happening was my World View about my Government being in some way my protector, almost like a parent, had been dashed and it was like being cast out into the wilderness - I think is the closest way to describe that Feeling and I sobbed and I sobbed - felt like the ground had completely disappeared beneath my feet and I knew at some point during the walk that I knew that I was going to have to become active in educating other people about this - that for me to retain any sense of integrity I was going to have to take some action - I couldn’t just let something like this go.” - Dorothy Lorig, M.A.

2:00:02 MM
“Many people respond to these Truths in a very deep way. Some have a Visceral Reaction, like they’ve been punched in the stomach. To begin to Accept Responsibility that the Government was Involved is like Opening Pandora’s Box. If you Open the Lid and peak in a little bit, it’s going to challenge some of your Fundamental Beliefs about the World.” -Robert Hopper, Ph.D.

“Here are a few of those Spontaneous Initial Reactions to Hearing the Contradictory Evidence about 9/11:

‘I don’t want to know the Truth or I would become too Negative and Psychologically Go Downhill.’

‘I’m not sure I want to know. If this is True, then Up would be Down and Down would be Up - my life would never be the same.’

‘Fran, I refuse to believe that that many Americans could be that Treasonous someone would have talked.’

But these are Beliefs - they are Not Scientific Facts. But these Beliefs do keep us from looking at the Empirical Evidence.” -Frances Shure, M.A.

“I’m David Ray Griffin - I taught Philosophy, Religion and Theology at the Claremont School of Theology and Claremont Graduate University. I published about 35 Books in my Field, but then, starting in 2004 I started publishing about 9/11 and since that time, I have published 10 Books about 9/11. You have Empirical people who will simply say, look at the Evidence and if it’s Convincing, I will Change my Mind. Other people are Paradigmatic people - they have a Paradigm. They say this is the Way the World Works and I’m Convinced this is the Right Way the World Works - 9/11 doesn’t Fit into that Paradigm, so I don’t need to look at the Evidence - it’s Paradigmatic. And then, there’s a 3rd type of person that we often call Wishful Thinkers - I call it Wishful and Fearful Thinking. So they simply will Not Believe something that they Fear to be the Truth and I found that maybe the most Powerful Factor of people Rejecting 9/11 Truth and Not even entertaining the Evidence.” -David Ray Griffin, Ph.D.

“So whenever we say, I Refuse to Believe, we can be sure that the Evidence coming our way is Not Bearable and it’s Conflicting with our World View much too much.” -Frances Shure, M.A.

“Denial protects people from this kind of Anxiety.” -Robert Hopper, Ph.D.

“As I thought about all of these Responses, I realized that what is Common to every one of them is the Emotion of Fear. People are Afraid of being Ostracized, they’re Afraid of being Alienated, they’re Afraid of being Shunned, they’re Afraid of their Lives being Inconvenienced - they’d have to Change their Lives, they’re Afraid of being Confused, they’re Afraid of Psychological Deterioration, they’re Afraid of Feeling Helpless and Vulnerable and they’re Afraid they won’t be Able to handle the Feelings that are coming up. None of us want to Feel Helpless and Vulnerable, so we want to Defend ourselves and the way we often do that is with Anger. So then, we become Angry and when we become Angry, then we become Indignant, we become Offended, we want to Ridicule the Messenger, we want to Pathologize the Messenger and we want to CENSOR the Messenger.” -Frances Shure, M.A.

“So how can we overcome this Resistance and Denial? The first thing is to meet people where they’re at.” -Robert Hopper, Ph.D.

“One thing is that we need to raise people’s Awareness about this through what I would call gentle dialogue and gentle Questioning. My name is John Freedom - I’m a Counselor in Private Practice here in Tucson Arizona where I’ve been for the last 20 years. I hold a Master’s Level Certification in NLP, which is Neuro-Linguistic Programming. So it doesn’t work to challenge people’s Belief where you immediately tell them I know the Truth about 9/11, but a good way is to ask Open Ended Questions and lead them into a dialogue and discussion about it.” -John Freedom, M.A.

“Healing comes through Facing the Truth, Experiencing it, allowing the Feelings to come in, so if there are Feelings of Fear that perhaps these Events were Caused by something we haven’t thought about yet, Dark Elements within our Society, for example, we let that come in and explore it. Let the Light Shine on whatever happened. This will be the most Healing Process. The Germans did this after their War. The East South Africans did this after Apartheid. Reconciliation through the Truth is a Deep Path to Psychological Recovery from the Myths and Lies around which this Historical Event has been Cloaked in the Official View. I am Professor William Woodward - I’m trained in the History of Science with a Ph.D. - I also have a Masters in Experimental Psychology - I’ve edited 4 Books and published well over 20 Peer Reviewed Papers - I’ve taught for 35 years at a State University - the University of New Hampshire and I think as a Psychologist, to overcome our Fear of the Traumatic Event with New Information would be the best, Healthiest route to our Collective Recovery from the Trauma of 9/11. That, by the way, is a Psycho-Therapeutic Insight that to gradually Uncover the Truth in your own Life, the Sources of Anxiety, to make them Conscious is the Royal Road to Recovery.” -William Woodward, Ph.D.

“One of the ways to deal with Trauma is to find the Answers of such importance to have a comprehensive Investigation.” -Danielle Duperet, Ph.D.

“To work together to Expose what happened regardless where the Evidence takes us. That’s what we expect in our State Government - Law Enforcement. I think by putting Science down there with Psychological Healing around the impossible Cognition that has been produced on that day.” -William Woodward, Ph.D.

“I believe that to be the kind of Country that we think we are we have to face some of the things that are Not as we think they are. I’m Robert Griffin and a Licensed Psychologist practicing in Pennsylvania for 25 years. I’m a member of Psychologists for Social Responsibility and I am past President of the North Eastern Pennsylvania Psychological Association. After World War II, part of the way that Jewish people honored the dead was by making sure that the Truth was known and that the value of these people was Respected. Not pursing the Truth about 9/11 disrespects the value of the life of the people that died. Thinking that we’re above such things - that it could happen in other Countries, but it couldn’t happen here - that’s a Lack of Humility and that’s excessive Pride. And so, not being able to see our Dark Side or our Weaknesses is the most dangerous thing.” -Robert Griffin, Licensed Psychologist

“The observation that Pride is one of the basic Human Flaws is absolutely Correct. This is especially True for Americans because we for a long time looked at other Nations and say, oh, they’re in such bad shape, but luckily, we don’t have those problems. We don’t have leaders who would do those things that were done in the Soviet Union or done in Germany or done in Japan and on down the list.

So this is a type of Pride that Americans have. A feature of American History that makes us particularly liable to this Pride is this notion and it’s called Exceptionalism - that America is the Exceptional Nation. And that began from the beginning as this Country was formed and the people would say, well, there was so much Evil in European Countries, so much cheating, so much lying, so much using the people for the Rulers purposes, but Not in America. We have Leaders that are Free from those Sins. So I think this has made 9/11 particularly difficult for Americans.” -David Ray Griffin, Ph.D.

2:09:57 MM
“Anyone can make Mistakes, but our Ideals or Principles get us back on track.” -Robert Griffin, Licensed Psychologist

“This is one of the defining issues of our time.” -John Freedom, M.A.

“So we need to understand that Questioning is Patriotic. Questioning is what we’re supposed to do as citizens - that’s our Duty.” -Robert Griffin, Licensed Psychologist

“When we come to the National Level, when something like 9/11 happens, we need to be sure that we have a Real Investigation into who the perpetrators are and then, we need to be sure that those perpetrators are held legally accountable. It’s part of the Healing Process on the Individual Level, as on the Collective Level. We need the Truth in order to Heal.” -Frances Shure, M.A. 2:10:40 MM

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Posted by: NuNativs ()
Date: April 07, 2021 05:47AM

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John Rose
What exactly is it about DIVIDE & CONQUER that you don't understand?

Jennifer, you are stuck in pre-school. I've been saying this to you from way back...

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Date: April 07, 2021 02:53PM

Says the Liberal Political Junkie eye rolling smiley

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