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Hospitals Killing People
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: September 24, 2021 12:40AM

I've heard about before - I think the Funeral Director guy talked about it. Also Dr. Sherri Tenpenny and Dr. Larry Palevsky say don't ever go to the hospital because there is an 85% chance you'll die there. Do it at home.

Here's Dr. Jane Ruby -

Dr. Jane Ruby Describes Hospitals, Ventilators KILLING Americans

[wethepundit.com]

The “Money for Murder” scheme continues as unvaccinated Americans are loaded up with Remdesivir and forced into ventilators.

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Re: Hospitals Killing People
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: September 26, 2021 06:42PM

Also, in the Dr. Carrie Madej interview that I'm watching now - she talks about the new harmful Hospital Covid Protocol regarding patients who come in with problems -

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At about 15:15 minutes.

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Re: Hospitals Killing People
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: November 07, 2021 12:43AM

Could it actually be this simple - that this may be like the Number 1 (ventilators would be Number 2) reason that people are dying in hospitals and the reason there are so many Covid Deaths (besides the fudging of numbers, etc.) - like around 725,000 supposed 'Covid' deaths in the US -

MOST IMPORTANT VIDEO YOU’LL SEE

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Re: Hospitals Killing People
Posted by: RawPracticalist ()
Date: November 07, 2021 07:34PM

Is the jennifer name a single user name or a group name?

That name posts a new topic, ask a question and answer back to itself.

Maybe the world has changed after the first question.

All of the topics that name posts, same pattern.

A group name makes more sense. Spouse, children, grandma can use the same name.

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Re: Hospitals Killing People
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: November 09, 2021 01:53AM

I never checked out Dr. Bryan Ardis before, but now I'm going to look at more of his videos - he's all about the Remdesivir/ventilators killing people in the hospitals issue, which is my new focus - another 'piece of the puzzle' that we're trying to figure out that's the Plandemic.

Here the only video of his I saw so far -

Dr. Bryan Ardis: We Need to Stop this Murderous Protocol – Everyone’s Lives are Threatened Now

[healthimpactnews.com]

Dr. Bryan Ardis recently lost his father-in-law to a hospital who forced COVID protocols on him. He has done extensive studies on the drug Remdesivir and Anthony Fauci’s criminal activities in forcing hospitals to use this dangerous drug, while banning other more effective drugs that are safe.

Dr. Ardis believes that the use of the dangerous Remdesivir drug is the #1 cause of deaths in COVID wards today, not COVID itself. He also states that hospitals are being incentivized financially to recommend Remdesivir over other drugs.

He warns people to stay out of hospitals right now because they are medically and criminally kidnapping people.

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I read somewhere that Remdesivir is the only Anti-Viral drug that's been approved for Covid by the FDA, so it's part of the hospital protocol since 2020.

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Re: Hospitals Killing People
Posted by: Prana ()
Date: November 09, 2021 05:00AM

People on this forum have been talking the whole time I've been here that hospitals are killing people, and my own personal experience with people I've know who have died in hospitals over the years affirms this notion.


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Re: Hospitals Killing People
Posted by: John Rose ()
Date: November 09, 2021 01:20PM

Hospitals have really become Temples of Sacrifice

There will be a Sickness that Sweeps the World, but they will do it by Vaccinations. That is exactly how they did the 1918 Flu Epidemic.

...we’ve got this Pandemic coming and then, they will Mandate Vaccinations...

Dr. Lorraine Day - Jewish Control of Medicine & Health Issues
1:17:30 Minute Video

OmegaDJ169
Published on Sep 13, 2016

Dr. Lorraine Day with Daryl B. Smith on The French Connection - 1/9/2007

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JR’s Notes:

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DS: So what we would like to do right now is bring her up. Lorraine, are you with me? [LD: Yes I am.] Wonderful to have you here Lorraine, you know, so much is happening right now, the work that Eric and myself and you and so many others, Jim Condit and the list is very long have been pushing so long about the Truth about who’s Controlling Everything and how it’s done - it’s finally getting traction and I see a lot of worry. We’ve been looking into so many of the ways things are done and one of the things we talked about in our private call or recently was how the Medical System and University System and Research System in the country has been compromised in favor of this particular group of, and it’s Not all, and I say this every time, it’s Not all Jewish participants, but the ones that are there have been inserted in some way as a Controlling Factor in so much of our University and Medical Structure. Can you talk a little bit about how you experienced that through your career as a Physician?

LD: Well, yes. First of all, I think when you say that it’s Not them completely, it’s Not the Jews completely because there are other people involved, we should probably go back just to lay a little ground work about 400 years ago or so whenever Queen Elizabeth I was in Power, her Head of Security, John Dee, was a Jew and that was probably in modern times where the Elitist Non-Jews and the Jewish Elite got together and made a Pact that together they would Rule the World.

Now the Jews are a small enough group around the World that they know they can’t Rule Everything by themselves. They’ve got to have someone to help get them there and so, that’s when they made the Alliance with the Elitists and John Dee was successful in convincing Elizabeth the First that she and the British had Ruled the World and that they could do It because the Jews had the Money Supply and the ability to Lend the Money to them. This was done after a private agreement that John Dee made with, I think, Rabbi ben Yohan [?] in Prague.

Now this is a very important thing because in Prague now, there is a Statue to the Golem. Many people haven’t heard of a Golem. A Golem is, supposedly, a created being that a Rabbi created and that is the basis of the Story of the Frankenstein Monster and so, which now is made into Horror Movies and almost has become a joke, but you’ll notice the name is Frankenstein - this is a Jewish name. And so, the Jews have always wanted to be able to create because, you see, God created the Earth and the Heaven and the Sea and all that and the Jews want to be God and want to create.

Now again, I’m Not talking about every single Jew. But we’re talking about a Plan that is outlined in the Elders of Zion and many books written by Jews that are available if anybody really wants to look at it. This is really the basis when you say that it’s Not just the Jews, but in their Talmud, which is their holiest book, Jews do Not really believe in the Old Testament. They believe in the Talmud. 4:13 MM

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LD: Oh absolutely, this is designed to not only make Money, Kill the population, but make Money while you’re doing it, right? This is part of Population Extermination, alright? So what they did is they started becoming Physicians, then they started getting in Charge of the Research Funding for the Physicians and then, they started becoming Heads, Academic Deans of Medical Schools where they have Control over what is taught to Medical Students and Control over who is accepted into Medical School. So the Head of the NIH is almost always Jewish or is someone that is higher level, but just behind the Head is a Jew. Now the Centers of Disease Control, which is the #1 supposed Health Agency in America, Governmental Health Agency, the Head of that is a woman named Dr. Julie Gerberding, who is Jewish. Now Julie and I were colleagues at San Francisco General Hospital for many, many years. . 8:50 MM

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LD: AIDS was a man-made Virus that was made at Fort Detrick, Maryland. I’ve written a book called AIDS: What the Government Isn’t Telling You, which is available at my Website at www.drday.com. If you buy that book, I include - it’s a document, which is House Bill 15090 at the House of Representatives Meeting where they called for the AIDS Virus to be made and they were talking to the Heads of the Division at Fort Detrick, Maryland, which is a Government Biological Research Institute and they asked for it to be made. The documentation is all there.

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LD: And I also include the 1963 Congressional Record, which it was read into the record that Homosexuality would be Promoted as a Normal, Natural, Healthy Alternate Lifestyle in order as 1 Factor of 45 for the Communist to takeover America and take it down without a shot.

DS: Yep, because it would Destroy Family Cohesion.

LD: That’s correct - that’s correct and introduce Degeneracy and Sexual Immorality and Disease and all of that. 12:19 MM

JR Insert from “AGENDA - Grinding America Down” file…
11:02 MM
“The book was The Naked Communist by Cleon Skousen who had been a former FBI Agent and inside the book it documented 45 Current Communist Goals from 1958.” Curtis Bowers 11:16 MM

12:05 MM
Goal #26:
Present Homo-Sexuality, Degeneracy, and Promiscuity as “Normal, Natural and Healthy.”
End of JR Insert from “AGENDA - Grinding America Down” file.

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LD: But before AIDS ever came along, the Homosexuality Community was a Community waiting for a disaster because their Immune Systems were so suppressed because of their multiple Sexual Partners, their Anal Sex and Contamination, Fecal Contamination and they also used a lot of Drugs with their Sexual Activity to heighten the experience and so they had extremely suppressed Immune Systems. There were many Gay Diseases, solely Gay Diseases before AIDS ever came along. There was Gay Bowel Syndrome. There was Rupture of the Anal Spincter. There were Foreign Bodies Inserted into the Lower Intestine through the Rectums. I mean, we had whole museum of things that we had taken out of the Lower Intestine of Gay Men, including Light Bulbs and harden Plaster of Paris and even a Tool Box. I mean, various things like that - this is Not Healthy Behavior. 14:20 MM

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LD: Now people say, oh, this is bigotry. No, I can tell you this I have been accused of bigotry and all of those things many times, but, you see, this is the one I want here, I just want to read you something here, but what I’m trying to do is save the lives of not only Heterosexuals, but Homosexuals as well because you can’t live a lifestyle like this and remain well. And I want to read you something: 15:38 MM

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If you were a parent, a mother or a father, counseling your son or daughter on a future Career, would you encourage him to take a Job that would #1) decrease his life expectancy by 30 years; 2) give him only a 9% chance of living to reach old age; 3) put him in a situation where he is 87 times more apt to be murdered than a man not in his Occupation; 4) make him 25 times more apt to commit suicide; 5) increase by 18 times his chance of death by a traffic accident; 6) make it virtually impossible for him to have children and a long-term loving and supportive marriage; 7) increase his chance by possibly a 100 times of getting a severe Intestinal Infection that leads to colostomy and 8) increase his chance by many 1000s of times of getting AIDS? I’m sure you would not recommend any Occupation even half as dangerous for your son as the one I have just described, but I have not described an Occupation - I described Male Homosexuality. 16:38 MM


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DS: But at the same time, what I’m seeing here is it’s a way for our Social Destruction and it’s working - that’s the thing - it’s working.

LD: It’s Social and Physical Destruction - it’s no different from the Horrors of Vaccination.

DS: Did they do this to the German public? You know something, much of the sickest pornography in the last, in the previous 100 years came out of Germany and Germany was completely subjected to this kind of Sickness early on.

LD: The reason, the reason that Hitler wanted the Jews out of his country, his plan never was to exterminate them, he wanted them out of his country because they were promoting this same sort of Degeneracy. And so that’s what they were Destroying - the Culture - they were Destroying the Art - they were Destroying the Morality and he wanted them out.

DS: And he made some deals with them to get them out, didn’t he?

LD: Oh absolutely, they worked with him because what they wanted, what the Jews wanted, they wanted Hitler to Oppress them far more than he did, far more than he did because they wanted Jews to immigrate to Israel to Palestine at that time so they would have enough there. You see, World War I, the Primary Purpose of World War I was to get Palestine out of the hands of the Turks and into the hands of the British. The British Government is Owned by the Jews. The Rothschilds in the City of London Rule the World. The Rothschilds are Jews and so Britain got a hold of Palestine after World War I and then, World War II was designed for 2 main things to then get Palestine from the hands of the British into the hands of the Jews and to give all of Eastern Europe to the Communists and Communism is a Jewish System right out of the Jewish Talmud. 19:36 MM

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LD: You see, Wall Street Bankers Funded the entire takeover of Christian Tsarist Russia by the Jewish Bolsheviks. Lenin was a Jew, Stalin was a Jew, Trotsky was a Jew, Karl Marx was a Jew and 80% of all the Ruling Body of Russia after the Bolsheviks took over were Jews.

DS: And they even made it illegal to identify a Jew, which is exactly what they’re trying to do again in the United States and have already succeeded in some ways to do here where I live.

LD: Well, that’s correct. And so, what has happened now, the Medical Aspect of this is just another Plan to exterminate Gentiles. The Jews, first of all, have this Persecution Myth. Everything that happens to them even if you point out what they’re really doing, oh, they cry and scream and carry on and say you are a bigot, you are Anti-Semitic, the whole point is they accuse Gentiles of doing to them what they are actually doing to Gentiles, right? And so, people have to understand that. So what they have done is they have infiltrated the Medical Profession to an enormous degree and Control the Funding. The Funding is mainly handed out from the National Institutes of Health in American and in the Washington DC area and they really Control that.

Now I was surprised as I look back on it. When I was at UC San Francisco Medical School, I was on the Facility there for 15 years, and I had a colleague in the Orthopedic Surgery Department who was Jewish and he and I were very good friends and he had been a Neurologist and then, he became an Orthopedic Surgeon as well and he had a dual appointment in both the Neurology and Orthopedic Surgery Departments. Now every year he got Funding from the National Institutes of Health, the NIH, every year he got Funding and other people had much more trouble getting Funding than he did. And so, we asked him, how do you get this Funding? And he said, oh, I go back to the NIH every year and I ask them what kinds of projects do you want Funded this year - do you want to Fund this year? So he says, I always tailor my research to be in the broad category that they want Funded. That was the first time I realized that they have a very Planned System of what they want Funded. 22:16 MM

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DS: And this is interesting because my cousin did some research, Lorraine, on a family called Flexner and they were working out of the Rockefeller Institute in New York back at the beginning of last century. Four brothers - one of them was a Biochemist and a couple of others were very high level Researchers and what they did is they tailored a great amount of Research both that turned into the Scripts Institute was formed by them and so many others and you look at the forerunners of these Government Organizations came right out of some of the Rockefeller Research Projects that started back at the turn of last century and, of course, both you and I know that Rockefeller’s entire funding apparatus was given to him by Rothschild.

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LD: That’s right, that’s right and so what I realized is they are Funding Research - there are 2 Main Areas of Research they want to Fund. Now this encompasses a very broad area. #1) they want to encompass Research on How they can Create, alright? That’s what all of this Embryonic Stem Cell Research is for and that’s why they introduced and approved of Partial Birth Abortion. For those who don’t understand what Partial Birth Abortion is - It is the most horrific thing you can imagine. They wait until a child is full grown in the womb and then, when it is ready to be born, they can turn it around inside the mother’s womb and have it come out feet first instead of head first. So they deliver the entire child alive, except the head is still in the mother’s womb, then they reach in with an instrument and Stick it into the Base of the Brain of the unborn alive child, that is his legs and arms are moving and it’s already the last instant to have its head come out, and they stick an instrument in and Suck out its Brain. That is what Partial Birth Abortion is and the reason they want it is #1) they want it for Organ Donations because when they have the full term child that’s ready to be born, they immediately take it into the next room and takeout all of its Organs to be used for Organ Donations, so they make a pile of Money on this. Now, you see, the Hospital is Not Allowed or the Unit that’s doing the Abortions is Not Allowed to Sell the Babies, but what happens is the way they get around that is that these Donor Companies come in and Dismember this child and they pay a Huge Fee for the use of the Room and that’s the way they get around Buying the Baby’s Dead Bodies, OK, that’s the way they do it. And then, they Sell these Organs on the market for Huge amounts of Money. You can get a list of Prices and yet, it’s against the Law to Sell at a certain Price, but they do it and call it a Processing Fee. 25:21 MM


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LD: The Stanford Research Institute, The Aspen Institute, The Tavistock Institute - these are all Institutes of the New World Order Illuminati. 70% of the Illuminati are Jews and the others they just need to get where they’re going, but when they get there, and the Jews Control Everything, then they will Eliminate the Non-Jews from the Illuminati and all of these other Organizations and the Non-Jews, like George Bush and Dick Chaney and all that who are just their Puppets, don’t realize that when the Jews get in Control, they’re dead meat.

DS: What you’re starting to see right now is they’re getting thrown to the dogs because of the World finding out about the Crimes that they’ve committed.

LD: Well, they always have people up in front who have lots of skeletons in their closet. No President in America ever gets to be President if he’s really clean. They always make sure he has skeletons so they can hold that over their head so they can unravel them at any time.

DS: Well, you know, we’ve put up a Video on our site; you can take them down from Google often called The Money Masters. If you want a non-accusatory description behind everything, this Video does it. They don’t name names like we’re doing and they don’t give you some of these behind the scenes facts, but they lay out the entire history of this Criminal Explosion we’ve seen in the last 150 years very, very clearly.

LD: Well, you don’t name names and you don’t identify it as a Jewish Run Whole Conspiracy - people don’t get it - they just can’t imagine that people could be that Evil. Now again, I’m saying, NOT every Jew is like this. I’m NOT trying to say take the whole Culture - they’re not a Race - they are a Culture. I’m NOT saying every Jew is like this. What I am saying that most every Jew is Raised to Believe that they’re BETTER than everybody else. 30:38 MM

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LD: You see, what the rank and file Jews do not understand that they are just as deceived as the so-called Gentiles because the Big Jews like Edgar Bronfman who is the head of Seagram’s Whiskey and the World Jewish Congress and Abraham Foxman and the Rothschilds and the Warburgs and the Kissingers - those people you will notice do not live in Israel - they live in luxury either in England or in France or in the United States in New York or other various places - they live in luxury in places that are safe. They use the Little Jews as cannon fodder to live in Israel by scaring them into saying, oh; we need a place where only Jews can live where everybody is safe. Well, Israel is about the most Dangerous place you could live right now and so they don’t live there. If the Little Jews would just look at their Leaders who are encouraging them to go to Israel, but wouldn’t step foot in the place themselves for more than a day or two and that with guards surrounding them. I mean, they are using the Little Jews and they will sacrifice them in a minute! 32:31 MM

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DS: You know, Lorraine, the last time you were on we did touch on this slightly, but this Bird Flu nonsense, right, that’s still floating around. 32:38 MM


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DS: Is it possible that they could juice up a Sickness that could Sweep the World?

LD: There will be a Sickness that Sweeps the World, but they will do it by Vaccinations. That is exactly how they did the 1918 Flu Epidemic. There is No Spontaneous 1918 Flu Epidemic. How it started was this - the Troops in American, Germany and England were all given Vaccinations - they were given Vaccinations of horrific things and they didn’t have the Flu - they had Horrible Diseases - there was Internal Bleeding and Bleeding from their Mouth and Bleeding from their Intestines and all of this - this isn’t rank and file Flu - this is a totally different Disease - they were Injected with It and then, they all started getting Sick and then, after the War, after World War I when they started coming home, then in America, the Government said, oh, these men are coming home with the Flu and all of the other people are going to get it, so you better line up and get Vaccinated. If you go on my website and you read about Bird Flu, you will find that I include several Chapters from a book written by a woman who was a Physician at the time that this 1918 Flu, actually, she was a child, but her parents were Physicians and she became a Physician, she said Nobody Died - Nobody Died - Nobody got the Flu that had not been Vaccinated. It was all a product of the Vaccinations and that’s what they’re going to try to do with the Bird Flu. They’re going to say, oh, we’ve got this Pandemic coming and then, they will Mandate Vaccinations for Bird Flu and that’s the way they’re going to Kill people, but it won’t be with Bird Flu - it will be with all of these other terrible things - they’ll put Anthrax and everything else in there and they’ll call it Bird Flu.

DS: Oh, Lorraine, you know, and here’s the interesting thing - they’ve got Plans and they’ve carried them out and it often seems as though they don’t care that we know.

LD: Well, that’s right because they have so much Power - they Control the Media and so suppose you and I know, who are we going to tell, except like this? But everyone sits home and watches their Television Set and becomes a Zombie - they read the Newspaper - they read Time Magazine and Newsweek and they Believe the Propaganda they are fed. You know, as well as I know, that you can talk to these people and it looks like they are BRAINLESS and they don’t want to know what’s going on. 37:51 MM


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LD: And so back to the business I was saying that there are 2 things that they Fund, particularly. One is every aspect, like Embryonic Stem Cell Research and all that. People say, oh, isn’t it wonderful; they’re trying to help people with Parkinson’s. Well, the way people with Parkinson’s can be helped, especially Michael J. Fox, I have seen him sitting on the Television Show being interviewed where his hand is shaking so much that he could hardly hold up the Diet Pepsi or Diet Coke, whatever he’s a spokesperson for, in his hand. Well, that contains Aspartame, NutraSweet, which is one of the biggest causes of his Parkinson’s. 42:04 MM


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LD: But the one thing is to try to create a Human Being and clone Animals and clone Human Beings and create them. And the 2nd thing is for Torture Techniques. All of this Pain Control - you’ll see Pain Clinics and they’re supposed to be relieving Pain, but the Ultimate Goal of the Research at the highest level of the Jews is to Induce Pain in Individuals without Killing them so they can keep them alive and keep introducing Pain, more Pain and more Pain in Torture Techniques, alright, this is what it’s for. And the doctors who are doing the Research do Not have a Clue that that’s how it’s going to be used. 45:18 MM

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LD: That’s correct, that’s correct and so, but, you see, the people who Run the Pharmaceutical Company are, again, mainly Jews - look at Eli Lilly - that’s Jewish and they’re all, virtually, all owned by the Jews now. [DS...] And so, this is their Way of Killing the Population, but doing it slowly and making a lot of Money as they go. Chemotherapy and Radiation Destroy the Immune System of a person with Cancer. You cannot develop Cancer until your Immune System is Suppressed. Then they want to give you something that will Suppress your Immune System even more. Well, it doesn’t make any sense to try to get a Sick person well by giving them Poison and that’s what they’re doing. So Hospitals have really become Temples of Sacrifice and certainly Not to God - they are just Sacrificing people right and left. It’s like the old Pagan Temples where they did Human Sacrifices - that’s what the Hospitals have become. 1:01:07 MM




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Re: Hospitals Killing People
Posted by: RawPracticalist ()
Date: November 10, 2021 12:29AM

The funny thing about all of this is that when one of these guys or a family member is sick they will rush him to the hospital hoping that the hospital will cure him.

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Re: Hospitals Killing People
Posted by: John Rose ()
Date: November 10, 2021 01:32AM

Politically Incorrect
BY DR. RICHARD SCHULZE

LIVING THE AMERICAN DREAM, NOT
DYING THE AMERICAN NIGHTMARE!

I have always pleaded with you, if you are sick, don’t go to a doctor, but if you are dying, NEVER GO TO A HOSPITAL!

Let me be clear right off the bat. I am not talking about if you get in a car wreck and your legs are on the other side of the road. Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water. This is what medica doctors do best, fix trauma. When I say never go to a doctor I am talking about disease, healing and health which doctors have no understanding of, and treat it the same way they treat trauma.

Your gall bladder is congested, they cut it out, tonsils inflamed, they cut them out, heart arteries clogged, they cut them out and sew in some veins from your legs. If your liver or kidneys get sick, they cut them out and gore a hole in you as big as a football, cut out the failing organ and sew in some stranger’s organ. They are Dr. Frankensteins, they use electric drills, bone saws, razor sharp knives, potent toxic chemical drugs and even radiation beams. Not healing tools, but replacement tools.

What makes medical doctors so good at trauma medicine is exactly what makes them so horrible at helping your body heal itself and helping you heal disease and create health. This is not what medicine is all about and for this same reason often why they kill people trying to get them well. They are butchers, not bakers.

If you get run over by a bulldozer, you want them, as many as you can get, in the room with you, with all their tools, cutting, burning and sewing you back together. But when you are ill and want to heal your body, repair it, build it, and create health, they are your worst enemy. And during the last days of your life, they will systematically torture you and rob you of every penny you have scrimped and saved for your entire life. We would give a murderer and a thief a life sentence in prison for what medical doctors and hospitals commonly do every hour of every day, and WE PAY FOR IT!

BIRTH AND DEATH COULDN’T BE MORE NATURAL

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LONELY

Over half of the doctors that treat dying patients in hospitals have known their patients for only 2 or 3 days, have no idea who they are or what their final wishes might be. Often the patient’s immediate relatives are restricted from seeing their own family member. Studies show that over 90% of strangers WOULD hold a dying person’s hand while studies also show that over 90% of doctors WON’T hold a dying patient’s hand in their final moments. Medical doctors don’t want to even be in your room when you die, on average spend only 3 minutes a day with you, they see your death as a defeat, cannot handle it and leave the mopping up to some nurses. If the medical doctor was a friend, they would send you home to be comfortable and with loved ones. Instead they avoid you like the plague which is perfect for the hospital because the hospital wants you there, suffering and slowly wasting away, you are a cash cow to them, the longer it takes you to die, the better! Why do you think it is standard practice to revive brain dead patients? You’re not a vegetable to them, you’re a freaking gold mine.

PAINFUL

Statistics also show that over half of Americans that die in hospitals, die in severe pain and even terminal patients at death door are denied medication because of fear of addiction, what a joke. So your body is riddled with cancer and open sores, you are in such excruciating pain that you have to be strapped down to the bed and what are they afraid of, you’re going to recover and have to enter a 12 step program?

Opium is an herbal gift from God, but denied to us by medical doctors and our Government (is there a difference?). In reality fewer than 1% of people treated with opium and opium drugs become addicted. In a recent study 40% of neurologists surveyed wrongly believed that a single dose of morphine, (a drug made from one of God’s gifts, the opium poppy), big enough to reduce pain would kill the patient. Actually there is no ceiling dose of morphine, as long as the patient is given time to adjust. I am not suggesting that we dope and drug the dying, but it is inhumane to let people writhe in agonizing, excruciating pain.

Another study found that 71% of medical doctors choose weak and ineffective pain medications for dying patients solely because they didn’t want to fill out all the extensive paperwork to prescribe a narcotic, even though by their own standards the stronger pain relief drugs are considered the medically appropriate treatment.

Also, most health insurance does not cover these pain medications which leads me to next subject.

EXPENSIVE

At the turn of the century, health insurance was designed to cover lost wages from working, not hospital and doctor bills. Eighty years ago, the loss of 2 weeks pay for the average American worker was much more money than the cost of 2 weeks stay in the hospital, which was fairly insignificant back then. In the 1920’s 2 weeks in the hospital costs slightly more than the average American made in wages for 2 weeks. Today an average 2 weeks in the hospital for nothing really serious costs more than the average American makes in an entire year! Over $50,000.00. That’s serious, bankrupting, medical inflation.

Since according to statistics, medical doctors are right less than 20% of the time when they predict how long you will live when you have a terminal disease, many people spend more time than they imagined of their final days in the hospital. Although the average is a week, many people end up spending weeks and even months in a hospital waiting to die.

Waiting to die in an extensive care unit costs over $3,000.00 a day and often up to $5,000.00. Doctors often perform, at an additional cost, very expensive surgical and supposed life saving treatments like bone marrow and cell transplantation, dialysis and resuscitation in your final days along with outrageously expensive chemotherapy type drugs. You are charged every time doctors resuscitate a dying patient. Often Cardio Pulmonary Resuscitation, (which is even considered standard essential treatment for brain dead patients in intensive care) can be done numerous times a day at up to $30,000.00 a pop. Just a few of these, a few drugs, a couple of surgical procedures and voila, you’re dead and your entire family including your grandchildren are bankrupt and in the poor house, on average 1/2 million dollars in debt. We joke when things are expensive that you might have to give up your first born child, well for this experience, you might have to give up your children’s, children’s future. I had many patients that couldn’t pay the hospital bills after a loved one died and were then sued by the hospitals and had EVERYTHING taken away from them to pay hospital bill, even though the doctor’s futile attempts were a failure. You pay, DEAD, or ALIVE! No Guarantee, No Warranty!

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Re: Hospitals Killing People
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: November 10, 2021 02:07AM

Thanks for posting this again, John! I was just thinking about it today in relation to this thread. I printed it out a while ago.

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Posted by: RawPracticalist ()
Date: November 10, 2021 07:31PM

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John Rose
Politically Incorrect
BY DR. RICHARD SCHULZE

LIVING THE AMERICAN DREAM, NOT
DYING THE AMERICAN NIGHTMARE!

I have always pleaded with you, if you are sick, don’t go to a doctor, but if you are dying, NEVER GO TO A HOSPITAL!

That is totally irresponsible.

You have no solution when they are sick and
They should not go to the doctor.

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Posted by: fresh ()
Date: November 10, 2021 08:30PM

There's nothing irresponsible

you only think it's irresponsible because you think that when someone says something that forces other people to do it

Of course people can do what they want and people can say what they want but you're one of those who wants to control everything

and there is a solution its called stop causing sickness and the body will heal itself to the best it can unless we are talking about a broken bone or similar emergency and it's always nice to have a doctor then.

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Posted by: John Rose ()
Date: November 10, 2021 11:46PM

“The greatest evil that can come into your child's life is the poison-dispensing physician. Carefully guard your child against him and all that he stands for.” -Dr. Herbert Shelton, Vol. I of VII, p. 368

“‘Children's diseases are really parent's mistakes,’ says Dr. Harry Clements (London), and this is very largely true. There are, of course, social and economic factors over which the poor have little or no influence, at least, not in their present unorganized state.

It may be difficult for the average reader to grasp the thought that parent's mistakes are responsible for the so-called infectious diseases of childhood. Few people have been able to disabuse their minds of the ancient notion, our heritage from our ignorant prehistoric forebears, that a so-called disease can be “caught” from someone else who has it.” -Dr. Herbert Shelton, “THE HYGIENIC CARE OF CHILDREN” - CHAPTER XXII THE ACUTE “INFECTIOUS” DISEASES OF CHILDHOOD

“Parents often feel sorry for their children when they see them deprived of certain foods, but they are wasting their sympathies. Such sympathies are tantamount to wishing for them a continuance of disease. 'When parents are intelligent enough to know their duty to their children,' says Dr. Tilden, 'they will not feel sorry for them because they are not eating in a way to make them sick.' Too many parents are ruled by their emotions and sentiments and not by knowledge and reason. Give children those foods that are good for them and do not cultivate in them an appetite for harmful foods.” -Dr. Herbert Shelton

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Date: November 11, 2021 12:43AM

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fresh

and there is a solution its called stop causing sickness and the body will heal itself to the best it can unless we are talking about a broken bone or similar emergency and it's always nice to have a doctor then.


That's one of the tactics of The Left - telling someone 'you have no solution' which is used to automatically negate the argument of said person. Like someone can't voice their opinion unless they have 'a solution'.



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Date: November 11, 2021 08:15PM

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By 1972, at the age of 77, Herbert M. Shelton became bedridden from a degenerative neuro-muscular disease believed to be Parkinson's disease.[4] He died thirteen years later, unable to improve his own health despite many attempts. His peers were shocked to see him unable to walk, speak normally, or write
[en.wikipedia.org]

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Posted by: John Rose ()
Date: November 12, 2021 12:45AM

So this is what happens to most of us and then, if you look at Shelton and Fry, that’s thrown in our face all the time, isn’t it?

Why Do Health Gurus Die Young?
27:14 Minute Video

Published on Jul 12, 2016
In this Video, John Rose takes a closer look at why So Many Health Gurus Die Young, especially Raw Foodists and Natural Hygienists.

Per Video Tape JR# M2U00368 - 27:14 made 7-12-16:

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2:38 MM
There is a reason why people Die. If you look at the very beginners of the Natural Hygiene Movement, if you look at Dr. Russell Trall and Sylvester Graham, why did these guys Die at 65 and 54, respectively?

Well, there’s a good reason and it’s usually the same reason why most people find this Information. They were Sick. In fact, Graham was born a weak and delicate child and Trall spent his whole boyhood in Sickness and was Bleed and Drugged. These people were lucky to make it as long as they did after the arrggg Medical System Poisoned them - that’s why they didn’t live long. 3:18 MM

Our first few years are so important. The first 10 years, as Dr. Joel Fuhrman points out in his book “Disease Proof Your Child,” these little children’s Cells are growing rapidly - they’re opening and closing and are being exposed. Adults, our Cells are like the inside of a golf ball tightly banded wrapped around with a bunch of rubber bands and we’re Not opening and closing, so we can be exposed to certain things and it won’t harm us.

But little children - what happens in the first 10 years of our life is so important. Very few people who finally find out about Raw Food started their Journey off that way. And now, the younger generation, my God, people below 30 right now, we’re supposed to be born with Systems that can do 10 times what they’re supposed to do - you guys are probably lucky if you’re coming in at a 2 or 3 - that’s why you’re getting Sick in your 20s and 30s or younger. We’re getting Weaker and Sicker as a Species because our Food is getting Worse and we’re being Drugged and Drugged.

So that’s how most people find this.

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4:17 MM
So these 2 guys were Sick as children - they were Drugged and Poisoned by the Medical System and that’s what happens to most of us, except it’s even Worse now with all of the Vaccines.

So this is what happens to most of us and then, if you look at Shelton and Fry, that’s thrown in our face all the time, isn’t it?

Well, Shelton made it to what - 90 and Fry - 70, 69, whatever, why did they Die so young? 4:43 MM

Well golly, if you look at their lives, Shelton was kicked in the Head and lost most of his Teeth after his Stallion kicked him in the Mouth in 1945, so he wasn’t able to Chew his Food - he was Damaged - he didn’t understand the Ripple Effect - he ended up with a DHA Deficiency - he came down with Parkinson’s disease early in his life and suffered the last part of his life.

So Shelton’s problem - he didn’t understand that you can still Screw Up the Law of Cause & Effect even though you found 2 Ways already. I explain this in the 3 Ways You Can Screw Up the Law of Cause & Effect in a Video - I’ll put a link down below. And there are 8 Wrong Approaches I mention, there are a lot of them, I just mention 8 and then, there’s 4 Ways we can work Downstream. But when you look at the 3 Ways we can Screw Up the Law of Cause & Effect, the Natural Hygienists have Knowledge of How to Live, which is what most people don’t have, and that’s why they are more spot on than anything and this System is going to be attacked more than any other System on this Planet because they got Knowledge and Truth - what they’re missing is the Ripple Effect. They didn’t know there are 3 Ways to Screw Up the Law of Cause & Effect.

So I’m telling you take Natural Hygiene and add the Piece I’m adding, the Ripple Effect, and you got the Solution because you got to look at the Big Picture and that’s what Natural Hygienists do.

Now there’s a lot of Dogma within the System about whether or not we should do certain things that are classified as the Art, but that’s the Piece they’re missing, don’t you see? That’s the Piece of the Puzzle they don’t understand - they don’t understand the Art of Healing - they don’t understand what comes after the Effect - that’s the 3rd Way we can Screw Up the Law of Cause & Effect when you don’t understand the Ripple Effect. And the point is you can Change what you do overnight and Remove the Primary Causes immediately, but you can’t Change what you got overnight and that’s where we’ve come up with another Group of Needs.

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6:21 MM
So the Natural Hygienists don’t have the Knowledge of How to Adapt - they don’t understand what comes after the Effect - they understand what comes before the Cause - that’s the Knowledge we’re missing - most people don’t have it, so they make a Mistake. They also understand, although, I never read anybody articulate it this way, but I understand it, is that they, the Medical System, is in between the Cause and the Effect giving the Illusion that it works because they’re interfering with the Body’s Communication System. If you look at the 2nd and 3rd Stages of Knowledge in my Special Teaching Tool, that uses Knowledge in a way that’s never been seen before and if you haven’t seen it, you’re a Fool not to watch it - go down below and watch it, but they’re interfering with the Body’s Communication System in between the 2nd Stage of Knowledge in what we do and the 3rd Stage of Knowledge in what we get, so we’re making Mistakes and we got Problems.

OK, take this Drug - it interferes with the Body’s Communication System - Blockers and Inhibitors - Lock and Key Communication System. Hey, the Body doesn’t Communicate - let me cut those wires to your Sending Unit in your car and the Engine Light goes off. Take the Sending Unit out - no more signal. This is what Doctors do - they’re Magicians - they’re just performing a Magic Act, but they’re taught by the Sick Psychopaths who Rule the World - they’re the ones who are the Magicians - they’re the ones who are Tricking everybody and then, we Trick ourselves, don’t we? It’s all about Denial. 7:33 MM

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7:33 MM
So if you’re looking for an Excuse Not to do this, why are you doing that?

You should be looking for ways to make it work. I’m telling you how to do it - there are 2 Groups of Needs we must Satisfy - it’s both based on 2 Anatomical Limitations.

The 1st One has to do with what we’re given at birth - we have a Species Specific Diet.

CASE CLOSED!!! NO DISCUSSION!!! PERIOD!!!

Look at the Anatomy - we’re Not Designed to Eat Animals.

CASE CLOSED!!!

We’re Not Grainivores - we’re Not Designed to Eat Starches.

CASE CLOSED!!! There’s No Debate.

But the Problem here is this is our Ideal Diet in an Ideal World and it only Satisfies this Group of Needs. Some people say, oh, it’s Not our Ideal Diet because we don’t get everything we Need. But that’s because there’s Another Group of Needs based on the Damage to Ourselves and Society and the Environment. Big Problems we have is B12 and that’s what Killed T. C. Fry - he too did NOT understand the Ripple Effect.

8:26 MM
And it’s EASY to be Arrogant when you’ve got 2 of the 3 Ways to Screw Up the Law of Cause & Effect and you know most people don’t know the 1st Way and most people don’t know the 2nd Way - most people Trust their Doctors - most people don’t know that Drugs are just Tricking us and Fooling us and Treating the Symptom - Sleight of Hand!

I’ve been working at this for a long time - I’ve created lots of files - people come to me with Diseases I’ve Never heard of - give me 1 hour on the Internet and let me create a file - I’ll Highlight it and send it back to you and you’ll go, why is he Highlighting everything in Grey or certain things in Grey, Not everything, only certain things in Grey?

Well, they tie into the Stages of Disease and what you’re going to find out is all of these, arrgg, I don’t want to think of what I want to describe them right now, all these Disease Treators are doing or “Allopathic Medicine” is they’re naming the Symptom that we got on the Location and the Stage it’s in - that’s all they’re doing.

So what I do when I study a Disease I’ve Never heard of before, I look at what our so-called Experts say it is and I look for those Key words that tie into the different Stages. Now I know the Stage in which our Body is in dealing with something that doesn’t belong there and that’s what they don’t understand is that there’s something that’s Causing that and what’s Causing it?

In most cases, it’s the Lymph System Backing Up into the Tissues and Cells. So it’s a Self-Poisoning because we’re Dirty. So the Lymph System Plays a Huge Role in this whole Disease Process and it’s what the Doctors don’t understand.

Remember, there’s a reason why they don’t teach Doctors the Lymph System and it’s the same reason why they don’t teach Nutritionist the Elimination Cycle. Think about that. Seriously, think about it.

If you Control Education, what don’t you want Nutritionists to understand?

10:04 MM
Well, let’s Not let them think about how long it takes to go through the Food Tube because then, we can create a Serpent in there and we “got em” now because they’re Under a Spell, you see? We’re Eating Food with the Wrong Bowel Transit Time.

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11:03 MM
So if you put your Trust and Faith in Doctors, you’re being Tricked and that’s the whole point that I want to make sure I finish making is that all you have to do is get someone to take the 1st Step in the Wrong Direction and we got us Fooled and that’s the purpose of my Special Teaching Tool is to make sure we don’t get Tricked and we don’t get Fooled. We have to understand that there are 3 Ways to Screw Up the Law of Cause & Effect. The Medical people are in between the Cause and the Effect, most people Lack the Knowledge of How to Live and the Natural Hygienists, the reason why Shelton and Fry Died is because they didn’t understand what comes after the Effect - that there’s a Ripple Effect - that now we have Damage that we have to deal with.

So there’s 2 Groups of Needs based on Anatomical Limitations. The 1st Group has to do with what we’re given at birth and the 2nd one has to do with the Damage we’ve done from making Mistakes.

So you can’t use the Damage we’ve done as an Excuse Not to Obey the 1st Anatomical Limitations.

So a lot of people become Dependent upon Meat… 12:06 MM

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Posted by: Prana ()
Date: November 12, 2021 12:47AM

A statement made in 1981 by French economist Jacques Attali (a Freemason and Bilderberger) an advisor to François Mitterrand (past French president)

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The future will be about finding a way to reduce the population. We start with the old, because as soon as they exceed 60-65 years, people live longer than they produce and that costs society dearly. Then the weak, then the useless that do not help society because there will always be more of them, and above all, ultimately, the stupid. Euthanasia targeting these groups; Euthanasia will have to be an essential tool in our future societies, in all cases. Of course, we will not be able to execute people or build camps. We get rid of them by making them believe that it is for their own good.

Overpopulation, and mostly useless (sic), is something that is too costly economically. Socially, too, it is much better when the human machine comes to an abrupt standstill than when it gradually deteriorates. Neither will we be able to test millions upon millions of people for their intelligence, you bet that!

We will find or cause something - a pandemic - targeting certain people, a real economic crisis or not, a virus affecting the old or the fat, it doesn't matter, the weak will succumb to it, the fearful and stupid will believe in it and seek treatment.

We will have made sure that treatment is in place, treatment that will be the solution. The selection of idiots then takes care of itself: You go to the slaughter by yourself.


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Posted by: John Rose ()
Date: November 12, 2021 01:24AM

Prana, part of that doesn't make sense because they want us to be POOR!!!

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Date: November 12, 2021 02:42AM

A statement made in 1981 by French economist Jacques Attali ....
Does not equal THEY

The world is not saying that
The governments are not saying that.

Just like the statement by Adolf Hitler that the Aryan race is superior was not a statement the entire world was making.

On the argument that Fry and Shelton's bodies were damaged already and could not be cured. That is totally wrong.

These two gurus did not have the courage to practice the teachings they were preaching. Many of us got damaged bodies growing up, but the body has the ability to recover, regenerate itself anew.

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Virginia describes how T.C. Fry ate a very low-protein, high-dried-fruit diet. This led to digestive issues of bloating and gas, bad teeth problems and later to protein deficiency symptoms. The hygienic diet recommended by Vetrano and Shelton included lots of mineral-rich vegetables and moderate amounts of nuts and seeds for amino acids and essential fatty acids



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Posted by: John Rose ()
Date: November 12, 2021 03:24AM

<<<On the argument that Fry and Shelton's bodies were damaged already and could not be cured. That is totally wrong.>>>

STRAW MAN!!!

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Date: November 12, 2021 08:09AM


Just because the posting
is VERY long
and
in red capital letters
DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE

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Date: November 12, 2021 02:46PM

[www.consumerwatchdog.org]
City News Service
Dec 20, 2002

by Staff Wire

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Columbia HCA is the predecessor to HCA, the nation's largest hospital company. Representatives for Frist and HCA could not be reached to respond to the allegations.

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HCA agreed Wednesday to pay more than $880 million to settle government accusations of health care fraud, Reuters reported. Combined with the company's prior settlements with the government over fraud allegations, Columbia HCA has agreed to pay a total of more than $1.7 billion in penalties, the largest figure ever assessed in a health care fraud case, according to Reuters.

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Death by Medicine
Mar 2004

The most stunning statistic, however, is that the total number of deaths caused by conventional medicine is an astounding 783,936 per year. It is now evident that the American medical system is the leading cause of death and injury in the US. (By contrast, the number of deaths attributable to heart disease in 2001 was 699,697, while the number of deaths attributable to cancer was 553,251.5)

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Date: November 12, 2021 04:34PM

So many inconsistencies

1. TC Fry and Herbert Shelton can be excused because their bodies were already damaged when they were growing up. Being very sick, bedridden, and unable to walk is not their fault.

2. The rest are to blame because they are not following the proper diet and in addition, they should not go to the doctor when sick. They are already dying and the hospitals will kill them even earlier.

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