Hi all, I was wondering if anyone here knows anything about Hippocrates Institute, which is now called Hippocrites Wellness. They're in Florida. Here's the website -

[hippocrateswellness.org]

My daughter who's still having health issues spoke to them and really wants to go there. Although it probably cost a million dollars a week by now

I've been wanting her to try going 100% raw vegan for years now and she's done everything but, so I would love her to go if they'll get her doing all raw. At least she's juicing most every day now. I believe the 100% RFD would cure her or at least stabilize her.

So does anyone know like what their program is - I hope it's all raw and juicing and no supplements. She's taking loads of supplements now, which I'm not into supplements. I hope it's none of that nasty Rejuvelac that people used to be into, which I can only imagine causes or exacerbates yeast/candida issues. What's the protocol like? And are the people there ok or what or have they sort of gone mainstream and woke or something weird. Maybe all vaccinated ...

To me everything still harkens back to Covid/Vaccine for the last 3 years - Litmus test.

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Thank you, RP. Very helpful. That led me to more information that was helpful. It's like a three-week retreat for $10,000, excluding lodging, and there's a bare bones retreat for two weeks which excludes all the extras like yoga, meditation, whatever, which I think would be the way to go if you don't have money to burn. I'm all for the Hippocrates Institute if it would finally get her to try the 100% raw vegan diet.

I went to Hippocrates in 2010, after 20 years trying to successfully being raw vegan yet hadn't made it. They saved my life, literally. When I flew out to them, I honestly didn't know if I'd be coming back home! Things were not yet extremely critical, but I was going down and going down fast (there's an instinctual thing involved there based also on extrapolatory trajectory!). After 3 weeks my life was transformed!

If you can make it to Hippocrates, I do highly recommend it!

Best regards!

The Optimum Health Institutes are the same sort of program. There is one in Texas and one in San Diego, CA.

Wow, thank you, Diana! That's a great testimonial.

So Hippocrates is still on the list of possibilities for my daughter who has been 'in the fight against cancer' (which I hate that phrase because it means they're in The System and going the regular slash, poison, burn route, which is a killer; that pink ribbon and 'race for the cure' walking/running crap makes me want to throw up, blah, blah, blah, my rant) for four years now. She finally got smart and stopped with the chemo - thank god she never did radiation - and now is doing the alternative cancer cures.

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The Optimum Health Institutes are the same sort of program. There is one in Texas and one in San Diego, CA.

That's great, Brome! Appreciate the info. I'll check it out and tell her about it. The regular one in Florida is $10,000 for three weeks, but there's a mini one for two weeks that's a bit cheaper. Her problem with that, besides the expense, is leaving her kids for that length of time.

Yes I been to Puerto Rico andalso the one in florida for a day. Its very salesy meaning they want you to book some time there. I did 2 weeks in puerto rico and had best time of my life. I really learned alot of things and made some frens.

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I logged into an account that I haven't used in a while, and that photo is ancient, like from 10 years ago! Also, I can't seem to find my email address associated with this account. I really want to recover it!

Do you mean your coconutcream account?

Thanks for the endorsement of Hippocrites, Coconutcream!

Right now my daughter and her family's in Phoenix because she feels a lot better away from the humidity. I'm a bit concerned about the heat there, but I don't want to be negative, so I haven't said anything yet - like make sure you all drink some water every half hour. She's doing the Essiac Tea and a Mold Protocol. We'll see if the tea works.

My daughter ended up going to the Hippocrates Wellness in Florida and she liked it!

We found out they offer a 1-week Vitality Program, so she opted to go for that one. Afterward she said she should have gone to the 2-week session. But she learned a lot and enjoyed it all.

She said she'd give it an A. Not an A+ because of The Mold! The accommodations - there are these original bedrooms. She said as soon as she walked into the room, she could smell the mold or musty smell. We think mold had contributed to her getting cancer - living in a moldy house for years. Anyway, she was able to change to another room someplace else that was newer and ok.

She raved about Brian Clement - said he was a great motivational speaker, like a preacher or politician.

The food - wheatgrass juice, sprouts, salads, etc. I think she said they didn't have Energy Soup there. She was sick or nauseous - that she said was detoxing - for a day or two, she said it was because she had too much wheatgrass juice. And she ate a lot of sprouts. I'm skeptical about eating lots of sprouts, not the green tops, but the seed parts, heavy duty ones like buckwheat or whatever.

She loved it there and she wants to go back again.

Oh, so there were issues I have with Hippocrates in Florida. They demonize fruit and don't serve any fruit - except one day they were allowed a little papaya or something. They don't like coconuts, so one day they let you have a little coconut. I don't care what your issue is, as far as I'm concerned you can eat all the raw fruit and vegetables you want to.

Then they're big time Supplement pushers. They have their own company Life Give that they sell supplements and give the guests a free package with supplements in it. No I don't like that.

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On the subject of supplements, I found out about a big toxic or bad ingredient in many supplements that I'll post about when I get a chance.

What an interesting report on Hippocrates! I am glad your daughter liked it but I was shocked that they'd try to stick her, with her issues, in a moldy smelling room. Ghastly. That is the very last thing she needs. People with mold need to be in a dry atmosphere (as you know). You would expect the accommodations to be de-humidified. I'd have walked out, but that is just me. I don't care for a damp atmosphere all that much though mold doesn't bother me. My son, however, wants to be an ultra-dry atmosphere. What can you do...you can't just move around the country at the drop of a hat like billionaires.

The diet sounds rather limited. I wonder what they have against coconut - it is not a regular-type fruit, it is in a class of its own. Apparently the Polynesian people ate all parts of the fruit and at all stages of its development, including the fresh juice. Yum.

Also - do they serve all their clients the same food, or do they create a menu for each person according to their health issue?

I am a bit suspicious of supplements, too, but I imagine there are some good ones around but One Size Does Not Fit All, but try telling that to a practitioner who is flogging them.

OK, bad me! Maybe I shouldn't have said they 'hate' coconuts...

They don't want the guests to eat coconuts there at least, except for the one day they serve a little coconut.

Hippocrates has an Instagram account, and here's an example of the food - plant-based diet - they serve -

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And this is the video I had seen with his explanation of how 'fruit sugar' is bad for disease -

Why Sugar in Fruit Feeds Disease - or Cancer as he talks about here.

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Here's another clip -

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"Once we started to put Fruit Sugar into our products ... obesity levels, the overweight levels, they skyrocketed."

Well, putting "fruit sugar" or "fructose," in some processed form or other, into Products - in my opinion - is not the same as Eating Fresh Fruit.

That's something else that bugs me - people equating processed product 'fructose' with Fresh Fruit.

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Although he does have a point here - Fruit is not what it was -

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Well, putting "fruit sugar" or "fructose," in some processed form or other, into Products - in my opinion - is not the same as Eating Fresh Fruit.

That's something else that bugs me - people equating processed product 'fructose' with Fresh Fruit.

Just common sense!

I don't know what kind of medical diagnosis they do over there at Hippocrates, but if it is only minimal, maybe a Mexican cancer clinic could be more helpful. It is run by doctors. Some good ones (I am told, anyway) are in Tijuana.

Then there's gerson.org. They seem honest in that they assess you whether or not your particular illness is suited to their program. Probably that is where I'd go if it was me.

Best to the both of you, Jennifer.

Yes, you have a point about Gerson's especially, Horsea. Thanks for the suggestion! I'll check it out.

And as Coconutcream/Suvine pointed out - I ran across a video of John Kohler visiting the Ann Wigmore Institute in Puerto Rico and we're interested in it. It's more bare bones, and cheaper so that could really work for us.

Here's the video -

Original Hippocrates Institute - Ann Wigmore Health in Puerto Rico

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He's visited a few times and made other videos of the place -

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So I was reminded of another criticism I have of the Hippocrates in Florida -

They don't use salt, but they use Braggs Aminos and Coconut Aminos in their food. That's a bit No-No in my book. You can make anything taste good with Salt, Braggs or Coconut Aminos, the last two highly processed and from what I read have then become like a form of MSG. Whatever.

Thanx for the 2 videos about A.W. Inst. I rather like that it is not ultra-fancy but more, as you say, bare bones.

Re salt. From what I read, we need the chloride component in order to be able to manufacture hydrochloric acid (stomach acid) without which your health will fail dramatically. I recall Adelle Davis saying that she knew a Dr. who said that ant-acids should actually be banned. He did stomach acid tests on all his orthopedic patients and they were seriously low, every last one. Instead of drowning ourselves with calcium pills, it may make more sense to see if our stomach acid is sufficient so that what calcium we do get from our diet is properly absorbed.

I read somewhere, ages ago, that sodium chloride replaced what people used to use, namely, potassium chloride. Which, I would say is better for us because sodium really is a poison in anything but tiny amts.

I take magnesium chloride powder as a food supplement. Tastes unpleasant, mind you, but if you dilute it enough, you'll manage.

I just got this in the mail today; I'm on Gerson's mailing list:

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Thanks, Horsea! I checked them out. It sounds pretty good, like I believe it would work because it's all raw. 13 fresh juices a day is a lot!

It is expensive - $5,000 per week - and it's in Mexico, so you'd have to get vaccinated to go, so that's a no-no in my book. They don't 'believe in' salt, so I like that, but they're really into giving a lot of coffee enemas, which I'm not a believer in coffee no matter which end it goes in.

They use the Pure Juicer, a two-step cold press juicer that costs $2,000.

Here's their recipe for Green Juice -

Ingredients for 8 oz. / 236 ml Green Juice:

• 6-7 big leaves (with stalk) of romaine,
red or green leaf lettuce
• 2-3 leaves of escarole
• 2-3 leaves of endive
• 3-4 leaves of red cabbage
• 2-3 young inner beet tops (inner leaves)
• 2 leaves of Swiss chard, any color
• A quarter of a green bell pepper
• 3-4 leaves of watercress
• 1 large green apple, Granny Smith
or as sour and hard as possible

Try to include as many of the ingredients as possible and do
not substitute. Add enough of the approved ingredients to
end up with an 8 oz. serving of green juice.
Wash all the produce. Cut the apples and leave the
core and the seeds out. Turn the juicer on. Insert your
produce into the feed tube. Use the pusher to push the
produce through.
Always rotate your produce, since mixing the malic acid from
the apple with any vegetable boosts all nutrients above what
they measure individually.
You can roll up smaller produce into the bigger leaves.
When using a press bag, the wet pulp falls directly into the
bag. Fold the bag and transfer it over to the press. When
using a press cloth, the pulp falls on the open cloth. Fold the
cloth and transfer it over to the press. Place the bag or cloth
in the middle of the tray.
Press and Enjoy!

>>> They use the Pure Juicer, a two-step cold press juicer that costs $2,000.

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The Norwalk Juicer Company closed its doors this month after 87 years, they will be sadly missed by the entire juicing community. PURE Juicer will now be the only two-stage juicer available. Created in 2016, PURE Juicer innovated two-stage juicing and the juicing experience through modern technology and customer input.

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It's beautiful if you can afford it. I have the Omega VSJ843 that was John Kohler's favorite juicer until the Nama J2 came along.