I recently heard that Nama Shoyu contains excitotoxins (according to research by neurosurgeon Dr. Blaylock). Anyone know if this is like MSG or how dangerous it is?

I can't handle Tamari and I gess I can't handle Shoyo either.. Maybie it's the soya or the salt or the excitotoxins? Dunno..

Please post the link where you read this information. I can't find anything on google. Thank you.

It was in an email sent to me by Roger Haeske.

I don't think he would mind if I quote him. As a side note, I had a dressing with Nama Shoyu in it and felt really mentally drained, to a degree I haven't experienced in a long time.

Here's the quote:

"Also in regard to the Excitotoxins. I suggest you look at
this book by neurosurgeon Dr. Blaylock, "Excitotoxins: The
Taste that Kills.
[www.amazon.com]-
/0929173252/qid=1040670781/sr=1-1/ref=sr 1 1/102-1872995-
2332969?v=glance&s=books

"Here is a link to an article by Dr. Blaylock about
excitotoxins. [www.dorway.com]

"I think this information is very important to know if you
want to maintain pristine health. Many people are quite
sensitive to Nama Shoyu.

"Dr. Graham spent three days with Dr. Blaylock and he found
out that any soy derivative product like Nama Shoyu and Soy
Sauce contains these excitotoxins. I think it comes from the
glutamate as was brought up in our talk last night.

"I ate with someone whose heartbeat sped up tremendously
after eating food with Nama Shoyu in it. I've been with
others who have gotten sick after eating it."

Thanks for the information.

I also read that soy products, soymilk and tofu shrinks the brain.
[www.westonaprice.org]

So then if we aren't allowed to eat tofu, then what can we eat in it's place?
Not too many foods for us to eat any more. :-(

Well, tofu is not raw anyway!

There are loads of fruits and veggies for us to eat, who needs processed junk!

Rob

--
Rob Hull - Funky Raw
My blog: [www.rawrob.com]

Some tofu and soybean is raw. But you're right. Store bought tofu prepackaged is not raw. They cook it before they package it and send it off to the supermarkets.

Tofu is never raw. To make tofu you need to cook the soybeans (I made it once). Once tofu is made, some people cook it again, so they assume that before they have cooked it, it must be raw, but not so, as it's cooked during the manufacturing process.

Rob

--
Rob Hull - Funky Raw
My blog: [www.rawrob.com]

Well, I've been eating soaked / sprouted nuts and seeds. If you're all that set on soy, the green soybeans, edamame are pretty tasty.

Rob,

You can make raw tofu, if inclined. I've seen recipes all over the web to do this. So, not all tofu is cooked, just the stuff you buy in the stores.

Also, ryanandvan, don't believe everything that D. Graham says. He's gonna be against everything that is not natural hygiene. I've never heard of nama shoyu having glutamate in it. Glutamate is an additive and not naturally occurring in nama shoyu, to my knowledge. I suspect, that anyone having a freakish reaction to the sodium in tamari is probably lacking in natural sodium and/or is probably dehydrated without even knowing it.

Peace,

Marcos

Go Vegan for your life, your health, the planet and, most importantly, the animals that we share this wonderful world with!

Well, I'm raw because it is natural. I'm not sure that fermenting things is the most natural and we must admit that some fermented things are toxic (cheese for example). The bacteria that ferment these things through off waste products. Also, what do you think gives Nama Shoyo it's zap? I don't know if you've had MSG, but I found a striking resemblance. I'm not going to experiment on myself. That is the last bottle for me.

ryan,

msg is never added to nama shoyu. It's the fermentation over several years that gives it it's zap. It's the same thing with miso, wine and anything else that is fermented. Again, if someone experiences issues with nama shoyu they should skip it but, based on all of my research, the root of the problem is dehydration, which is why the body freaks out over the salt.

Peace,

Marcos

Go Vegan for your life, your health, the planet and, most importantly, the animals that we share this wonderful world with!

Healthybun,

How do you feel after eating something with Nama Shoyu? Symptoms you can share?

Thanks!

Miso and hummus (unless it's truly raw-hummus) should fall under the toxic label...