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Salt/Iodine
Posted by: Faithfully10 ()
Date: September 24, 2007 09:46PM

I've been reading and thinking of going raw. I eat about 50% raw now. But I wonder how do you get enough salt?

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Re: Salt/Iodine
Posted by: MauiGreg ()
Date: September 24, 2007 10:21PM

I'm pretty new to this site and only raw for a few months, but from what i'm learning, it seems like salt (as in table salt) is a poison. Many people here don't ingest any salt outside of what's naturally occuring in their fresh fruit and veggies. I still consider myself in transition, so occasionally I use miso or nama shoyu, but i'm trying to use less and less and eventually none.

i'm sure others who are more knowledgable will post here and give you concrete examples of why salt is bad for you.

Good luck on your journey

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Re: Salt/Iodine
Posted by: karennd ()
Date: September 25, 2007 03:30PM

You get plenty of sodium from your veggies, like celery, if that's what you are worried about. Salt is a toxin, that's why we retain water when we consume it. The water is trying to protect us from the poison.

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Re: Salt/Iodine
Date: September 25, 2007 05:01PM

[www.healthfree.com]

I use Celtic Sea Salt


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Re: Salt/Iodine
Posted by: Mislu ()
Date: September 25, 2007 07:22PM

MauiGreg,
I found a site which stated that there is definately a need for sodium, but it needs to be incorporated into something living to be sure its in the proper amount, and in the proper form, like all minerals, vitamins, amino acids, fatty acids, sugars etc...

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Re: Salt/Iodine
Posted by: tropical ()
Date: September 25, 2007 08:58PM

Try seaweed for your iodine and lots of other good things. I just started trying seaweed a few weeks ago and I totally love it. Now I know what Shazzie was talking about when she raves about nori rolls (can I stop eating khale and other less palatable greens now? I think I will!)

[www.alcasoft.com]

Seaweed as Protection from Radioactitvity
Kelp contains Iodine 127. Iodine 127 will prevent the body from absorbing radioactive iodine 131 which is constantly being released into our atmosphere by so-called normal operations of nuclear power plants and weapons facilities. Homeland security is a joke unless you have true security of good nutrition that includes Iodine 127 in your daily diet. This is specific protection for the thyroid gland, and you need to be aware that most nuclear pathologies in a disaster like Chernobyl are related to the intake of radioactive Iodine 131 into the thyroid gland. Rather than wait for the government to dispense potassium iodide to the population after a disaster occurs, eat kelp as part of your daily diet.

Kelp contains sodium alginate which is capable of binding with ingested particles of toxic strontium 90, cesium 137, and various heavy metals in the digestive tract, thus aiding the body in excreting radioactive fallout. After Chernobyl, the Russians isolated the polysaccharide U-Fucoidan in kelp, an excellent absorber of radioactive elements.

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Re: Salt/Iodine
Posted by: wallace ()
Date: September 26, 2007 10:03AM

I agree with celtic salt and seaweed.

Calling all this a poison as Graham and NH do seems to me an overeaction. Without salt we would die.

Wallace

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Re: Salt/Iodine
Posted by: wallace ()
Date: September 26, 2007 10:18AM

Also we came from the sea, I believe in the Acquatic ape theory. Also seawater(that terrible poison!) has been used as a blood transfusion. google Rene quinton

wallace

Seawater – A Safe Blood Plasma Substitute?
Diluted seawater contains almost the same concentration of minerals and trace elements as blood plasma, and its sodium content matches that of blood. It has been used successfully in animal tests as a blood transfusion substitute, but human trials are long overdue.

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© 2006 by Dianne Jacobs Thompson
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My long-time fear of having a blood transfusion or anything else injected directly into my unprotected bloodstream has grown stronger over the years. It's not a religious issue, but rather an occupational hazard. Being a health researcher, I'm haunted by terrible visions of what could go wrong—with good reason. I feel like the meat inspector who becomes a vegetarian. I know things that forever destroyed my innocent faith in all things medical. I no longer worship in "the Church of Modern Medicine", nor tithe to its pseudo-gods voluntarily.
"They", the health (read disease) industry specialists, check blood better these days to catch unsafe blood supplies contaminated with HIV, hepatitis and other disease components, but blood products still aren't completely safe, even with modern technology. They can't sterilise blood any more than they can sterilise vaccines to kill all the unwanted "bugs" without destroying the nature of these products. They test blood and separate blood components through centrifugal action and other methods to purify these substances as much as possible, but it remains impossible for them to promise or deliver a completely safe blood-related product. Blood is "alive": it cannot be sterilised or rendered antiseptic.
There are countless transfusion horror stories dating back many decades, but we rarely ever hear about them. For example, a neighbour down the street lost her husband about four years ago. He had cancer, but became infected with viral hepatitis from a blood transfusion and died from liver failure, not the cancer. Many people know someone who suffered from the effects of a blood transfusion gone bad. That's just a fact of life and one of the known risks of surgery, no matter how minor.

Dangers Lurking in Vaccines
Unfortunately, I've run across too many stories of this nature. I've spent most of my adult life doing research and writing in the field of alternative medicine (www.truthquest2.com) with an early focus on viral and bacterial diseases and problem vaccines, some of which are still made from pooled human blood products or with "attenuated" vaccine viruses created by "serial passage" through contaminated animal cell cultures. That means they take human viruses and put them in layers of animal cells over and over again, which forces them to adapt to the foreign cells to survive. This "adaptation" requires an exchange of genetic material between virus and host cells.
When monkey kidney cells are used, the exchange of genetic material that takes place forces the human virus to become a little bit "monkey-like", supposedly so that it cannot initiate full-blown disease—which doesn't always work. In the process, native monkey viruses become a little bit "human-like", giving them greater compatibility with human cells. Such may be the case with the infamous Epstein–Barr virus, which is referred to as "human"—although many scientists believe it originated in monkeys, went on to infect humans through contaminated vaccines in mutated form and then became associated with chronic fatigue syndrome and other maladies. But then, there is less of a species barrier with monkeys than with other animals, which gives us less protection from their pathogens. The bio-hazards of monkey viruses are well known in certain scientific circles, but little known by the general public.
In the course of my research, I came to study the subject of recombinant virology: the combining of unlike viruses into new "tribes", usually with more dangerous characteristics than the "parent" viruses, by men in white coats playing God. Recombination events can also happen in nature under certain conditions, particularly when helped along by bad science. For example, a monkey virus called SV-40 (simian virus 40, after becoming the 40th virus found in monkey tissues) was found to have unique properties. This "naked virus" can penetrate any kind of cell without the problem of a "species barrier", and it allows unlike viruses to attach to it and ride piggyback into the genetic material of a cell where they can take over the "machinery" and replicate new recombined viruses on their own. The discovery of this virus gave rise to the field of recombinant virology, with many dire consequences. SV-40 became a well-documented but unpublicised contaminant in polio vaccines (made with the use of monkey kidney-cell cultures) when it was given in 1955 to 1963 to 95 million unsuspecting recipients.
The first official claim was that SV-40 viruses "do not have any significance in the safety or efficacy of polio vaccines"; but when the virus was first tested on guinea pigs after its discovery, the animals developed salivary gland tumours and immune deficiency symptoms. The corresponding organ in humans is the pancreas. Deadly pancreatic cancer has since become epidemic in numbers. SV-40 is now associated with numerous cancers, including human mesotheliomas, ostoeosarcomas, brain tumours, ependymomas, choroid plexus tumours and others. These same monkey cell cultures, used to make vaccines, contained other viruses such as SIV (simian immuno-deficiency virus), which figures prominently in the make-up of another recombinant virus that we know as HIV.
There's no proof offered publicly as to whether HIV resulted from a naturally occurring recombination event, but the sophistication of this virus and some documented government requests for the creation of a similar biological weapon suggest otherwise. However, a study generated at the request of the World Health Organization (WHO) and then suppressed, linking African AIDS to the WHO vaccination campaigns against smallpox, polio and other diseases, theorised that viral vaccines "activated" dormant viruses, so this is a possibility supporting natural recombination—unless HIV was intentionally added to certain vaccines.
The London Times printed this story on May 11, 1986, but the story was withheld from the American media. This kind of information seldom reaches the general public in my country. The same thing happened when one of the most horrific scientific "errors" ever made was hushed up. It involved "HeLa cells"—the most aggressive cancer cell cultures ever known—which made their way into science labs all over the world for research and then contaminated many cell cultures used for vaccines…by accident. Think about human vaccine viruses being grown in cancer cells and exchanging genetic information with the cancerous host cells before being injected into millions of unsuspecting victims!

Problems with blood transfusions
That's just part of what a person potentially faces when receiving blood from another person or persons with undetected infection. Sam Biser, a researcher in the field of alternative medicine, interviewed Dr William Donald Kelly, DDS, MS, who related a conversation with Drs Friedman and Burton from the former Immunological Center in Great Neck, New York. Their research reportedly suggested that a blood transfusion may destroy your resistance to cancer. Dr Burton believed, as many religious groups do, that blood transfusions can cause cancer, in a manner of speaking. Dr Burton claimed that a tumour, in order to survive, secretes compounds called "blocking factors" which protect it from the natural defence system of the body. He believed that a transfusion would result in these blocking factors from a donor being passed on, able to suppress the recipient's own immune system enough to allow a tumour to develop. That new tumour would in turn create its own blocking factors. Cancer wouldn't be transmitted directly, but, in this way, a blood transfusion may increase one's susceptibility to cancer.
While possible "blocking factors" and contamination from human and animal microbes in blood supplies worry me somewhat, there are other factors that keep me awake at night… Someone I knew in college just happened to mention in passing that a blood transfusion changed his life. He described coming out of surgery after an accident and waking up with a changed personality. He blamed his condition on the blood transfusion he was given. Since I only knew him after this event, I can't say whether the change was good or bad, but who wants something like that to happen while under anaesthesia?
But something far worse than a personality change affected my opinion in 1981. That year, in Alaska, I gave birth to my only child—a much anticipated arrival by me at age 34 and by the baby's godmother, Ceci Clark, an artist and gallery owner of some renown in that State. Ceci developed bone cancer, which wasn't diagnosed immediately. Before they found it, she had surgery for something else and was given a blood transfusion. When she woke up, her "brains" were scrambled, so to speak. She recognised me but thought I was her sister, and she grew confused trying to figure out where that newborn baby had come from. They eventually found the cancer. She died soon after.

The Marine Treatment
In the ensuing years, my research turned to alternative cancer treatments and remedies for chronic degenerative disease, particularly after my becoming desperately ill and having my health, and that of other family members, restored without drugs or surgery by an unusual naturopathic physician in Spokane, Washington: the late Dr Harold Dick, ND. His extraordinary diagnostic and healing skills were passed on and added to by his daughter, Dr Letitia Dick-Watrous, ND, who completed a three-year residency with him, became his partner and then took over his practice after his death. Dr Dick not only turned my health around with a little-known diagnostic "tool" and an updated treatment modality with roots in the old "water cure" of Germany's famous Father Sebastian Kneipp, the O. G. Carroll Food Intolerance Test and constitutional hydrotherapy, but mentored me and lit a research fire in my belly that won't go out—and Dr Dick-Watrous fanned the flames.
In the course of researching natural healing methods, I joined a membership website that featured little-known alternative treatments for cancer and infection. These included "the Marine Treatment", based on the work of French biologist/physiologist René Quinton. He proved that seawater, properly formulated and under certain conditions, is virtually identical to mammalian blood plasma. With the assistance of many eminent physicians, he successfully used seawater as a healing agent on thousands of patients in France and Egypt in the early 1900s. Cancer was almost unknown in those days, but many other disease conditions responded to injections of the diluted ocean water—a true "marine plasma" which could remineralise a sick body, normalise the pH (acid–alkali) level and balance the electrolytes, thereby correcting the underlying cause of many disease conditions by regenerating the "internal terrain", as Quinton called it.
The report included before-and-after photos of patients. Like most people, I was drawn to the shocking 100-year-old photos first, and the science came in a distant second. Babies brought back from near death from cholera and other causes; cadaver-like bodies filled out to healthy plumpness; raw, weeping skin from eczema made smooth and lesion free…all by the power of seawater. Many early-20th-century scourges such as tuberculosis were shown to be healed by this remarkable marine plasma. Historically, ocean water (plasma) has had numerous applications, based on the concept of renewing, purifying and regenerating the internal fluid terrain as well as maintaining the equilibrium of the body. It has proved to be a support for and regenerator of cell functions.
How important is the mineral and trace mineral balance in the body? Many researchers, including Dr Joel Wallach, author of the best-selling audiotape Dead Doctors Don't Lie, claim that the absence of one single mineral needed by the body can give rise to as many as 10 different disease symptoms. Of course, much of modern medicine still blames germs and genetics for most human disease, so the "mineral deficiency" theory is generally ignored. But Dr Wallach believes that a common heart condition, cardiomyopathy—a condition which has killed countless victims from professional athletes to heart specialists, or made them candidates for heart transplants—is caused by nothing more than a deficiency of the trace mineral selenium, which can be cured or prevented by a few cents' worth of selenium supplements a day.
Enter seawater—the missing link in deficient elemental nutrition! It contains every mineral and trace mineral known, in organic form and in the proper ratios needed by human tissues—and it's been there all along as a healing and life-giving agent, hidden in plain sight. While the website where I first found the Marine Treatment information had a good report and impressive photos, a more complete website on the subject was under construction. There, on his academic www.oceanplasma.org website, I discovered that Dr Juergen Buche, ND, was in the process of translating a large body of ocean-water research and supporting documentation from the original French into English.
What I found on that site hit so close to home that I'm still reeling! My eye caught something that resonated with my transfusion phobia. It turns out that trials were run on stray dogs to test ocean plasma (diluted, cold-filtered ocean water) as a transfusion substitute. In one experiment, René Quinton and his medical team drained a dog of all of its blood and replaced it with isotonic (diluted) seawater. The dog should have died immediately, one would think, but the dog lived. On day two after the transfusion, 50 per cent of the blood components had reappeared. By day four, almost 100 per cent of the missing blood components were restored in what appeared to be proof of biological transmutation (a change from one element to another). Not only did the blood completely regenerate, but soon after the procedure the dog bounced around like a puppy with greater vitality than before, and it lived for many years afterwards. Just think what a safe, effective, plentiful substitute for blood transfusion would mean to the world: no side effects, no blood-type matching needed, no pathogen screening required, and it would be a true plasma with proven healing properties in itself!
So, what became of this wondrous marine treatment? World War I got in the way of medical research, and Quinton was drafted. He died in 1925. These events somewhat interrupted the continuance of Marine Treatment hospitals and clinics, of which there were many. However, the treatment was carried on by his medical co-workers and ardent followers, and it experienced a resurgence after World War II in several countries. Animal trials using seawater as a transfusion substitute were repeated with the same results in 1969; but since then the "marine treatment" has been used as a therapeutic agent on people, mostly as a foundational treatment for chronic degenerative disease. Also, it became known as a complete and readily assimilated liquid mineral and trace mineral supplement for remineralisation, for detoxification, for energy and for relieving stress.
No human trials for transfusion have ever been attempted. As for the healing properties of seawater, in today's restrictive medical atmosphere seawater can only be referred to as a "mineral drink". If the word "cure" were uttered or written in relation to a brand name, the "offence" would be legally actionable. Only a drug, toxic by its very nature, can be called "curative". No FDA-sanctioned studies will be funded or reported on the efficacy of seawater treatment for disease because a supplement can be studied only in relation to its disease "risk reduction" factor as defined by the government agency, and not as a treatment for actual disease.
Why haven't we heard of René Quinton and his marine treatment?

A Sick Health System
The USA has the worst national health of any industrialised country in the world—in spite of spending the most money on health research and health care. This country lags sadly behind in many areas of medical science, particularly when those who profit from bad science are called to arms for their own protection by safer, more effective and less expensive remedies and methods such as Quinton's modest but living ocean water.
Look at the international pharmaceutical industry. It has such wealth and power that it controls not only the FDA but American health-related legislation and policies. Take, for example, the case of the "cholesterol" caper. In the past, the federal guidelines for managing cholesterol were this: someone with 300 mg of dietary cholesterol per day, with an HDL (good cholesterol) level of 35 mg per decilitre (dL) in the blood, was considered to have unacceptable levels and be in need of treatment. However, under the "guidance" of the powerful pharmaceutical industry, those federal guidelines were recently changed. Now, less than 200 mg of dietary cholesterol per day is considered "acceptable" and an HDL (good cholesterol) level of anything less than 40 mg/dL is now unacceptable (JAMA 2001; 285:2486-2497). To translate: under the old guidelines, 13 million people were pushed into using cholesterol-lowering drugs; under the new guidelines, 36 million people are now buying those drugs, and that means billions of dollars of additional revenue going to the pharmaceutical companies.
At the same time, these drug manufacturers have been particularly hesitant to publish anything about the effects of drug-induced low cholesterol, which can include depression, violent behaviour, suicide, aggression, increased risk of stroke and poor immune system function according to certain studies. It looks like we're being brainwashed by some kind of drug mythology into believing that diseases are caused by a drug deficiency and that they can only be cured by increased and expensive drug consumption.
What would happen to these international drug cartels if an actual cure for cancer suddenly came on the market outside of their control? Since they exist financially only for the "treatment of symptoms" (disease management) rather than for curing anything, it is possible that our entire financial/ medical infrastructure might collapse as a consequence. The stockholders of pharmaceutical companies want profits, not a cure to end human misery and stop the flow of profits. We hear similar stories about fossil fuel substitutes and other life-altering discoveries and inventions that have never made it to the open market due to intervention by the competition.
Likewise, a safe blood transfusion substitute might threaten too many rich and powerful areas of the medical market to ever see the light of day…but one can visualise the possibilities. However, "Vision without action is only a dream," according to Dr Buche. Consider this article the start of action—maybe your action!

Harvesting the Living Solution
Seawater can be ingested orally or can be injected. However, harvesting seawater for consumption is not easy; it requires knowledge, care and the right equipment. Seawater differs in composition and can't be harvested randomly. Its make-up varies according to the distance from the coastline, the climate and the marine vegetation. During the entire process from ocean to bottle, the seawater cannot touch metal; it must be kept cold, because heating kills the invigorating living properties of seawater. It has to be transported and kept in glass or food-grade plastic containers. Then it has to be tested and cold-purified in a manner that protects it from alteration and preserves its state as a living solution. (For more details about seawater harvesting, see web page [www.truthquest2.com].)
Seawater in its original and primal state had only one-third the saline content it has now, and this fact is still mirrored in the saline content of blood and tears. The oceans have become more concentrated through the ages, and their waters are now far too salty to drink in large amounts. To use ocean water as blood plasma, it must be diluted with ultra-pure water to the same concentration as blood plasma: namely, nine grams of salts per litre. As the perfect mineral supplement, it can be consumed orally in dilute form or full strength by those with no sodium sensitivities—but only in small amounts, like an ounce [0.03 litres] at a time, several times a day if necessary.
However, it's extremely important to dilute it with pure spring water for home use, because chlorinated water has the same kind of damaging effect on ocean water as it has on the human body according to several studies. The French got it right: they ozonate their drinking water instead of adding (cheaper) bleach to it.
The exact properties of seawater remain a mystery to modern science. In spite of our great technical expertise, the complete nature of seawater defies analysis. It has some living quality beyond the sum of its parts. It can't be dried and reconstituted or synthesised in a chemistry lab. The great French scientist Antoine Béchamp looked at blood as a kind of flowing tissue rather than just a liquid.
Seawater also has something about it that makes it more than "just water". It sustains life, as proved by Nobel laureate Alexis Carroll who kept a piece of chicken heart tissue alive in it for over 26 years, needing only to change it daily to dispose of metabolic wastes.
In fact, one could actually say that we have internalised the ocean within ourselves and that this nutrient-rich medium is the source of life. Every cell in the body bathes and feeds in it. It picks up and carries away the waste products of cell metabolism. It has a life force—unlike the saline solution seen in familiar bags in every hospital, which is nothing more than a solution of table salt and plain water. Processed table salt bears little resemblance to the raw, unprocessed, mineral-rich sea salt that we should be using, and our depleted bodies suffer the consequences.
If I had to have surgery, I'd want to see "ocean plasma" in a drip bag above my head before the lights went out. The world needs someone with courage and vision, willing to initiate the first human trials of seawater transfusion; the world needs someone to extend René Quinton's animal trials and to make that leap into the future that signals true progress. ∞

About the Author:
Dianne Jacobs Thompson is a graduate of what is now Western Washington State University with a degree in art in 1976, after which she gained teaching credentials in art with a journalism endorsement from Central Washington State University. She has taught public school part time on and off for the last two decades and since 1981 has been doing research and writing about alternative medicine.
Most of the articles and reports were too controversial in nature—usually dealing with the dangers of conventional medicine as well as healing alternatives—to have been published in the past, but the Internet has removed countless roadblocks that previously kept such information from being made public in the mainstream media and has allowed many such travellers access to the "information superhighway".
Dianne's website is at [www.truthquest2.com]. She can be contacted by email at t_ospeaks@yahoo.com.

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Re: Salt/Iodine
Posted by: tropical ()
Date: September 26, 2007 03:48PM

So diluted seawater can be used as a blood transfusion, and might make blood-typing obsolete and, vaccines were contaminated.

I wonder where the FDA people go for their healthcare? Do they lie in their hospital beds at the end of their life and think about all the treatments that they suppressed.

"Now if only I hadn't suppressed "The Marine Treatment" there might be a bag of diluted seawater hanging over my head and dripping new life into my blood."

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Re: Salt/Iodine
Posted by: aquadecoco ()
Date: September 26, 2007 03:58PM

wallace Wrote:
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> I agree with celtic salt and seaweed.
>
> Calling all this a poison as Graham and NH do
> seems to me an overeaction. Without salt we would
> die.
>
> Wallace



Of course we would die without salt! No one said we don't need salt! But there's plenty in raw foods, without adding mined salt.

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Re: Salt/Iodine
Posted by: boyd ()
Date: September 26, 2007 04:13PM

Sole (so-lay)

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Re: Salt/Iodine
Posted by: sunshine79 ()
Date: September 26, 2007 07:01PM

Wallace, WOW, THANK YOU for posting all that!! It was really fascinating, I love stuff like that!!

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Re: Salt/Iodine
Posted by: GypsyArdor ()
Date: September 26, 2007 08:34PM

Wow! That was really interesting! I'd love to drink some of the diluted, living sea water!

Thanks for sharing.

Love,

Gypsy

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Re: Salt/Iodine
Posted by: Faithfully10 ()
Date: September 26, 2007 10:39PM

Amazing!!

The reason I am concerned with iodine because I stopped using table salt/any salt in the late 70s and developed Graves Disease/hyperactive thyroid. The big idea circulating at that time was that salt was bad for you.

I had 90% of my throid removed.

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Re: Salt/Iodine
Posted by: Jgunn ()
Date: September 27, 2007 04:01AM

besides the salt faithfully10 what was your diet like then ?

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

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Re: Salt/Iodine
Posted by: sunshine79 ()
Date: September 27, 2007 04:29AM

Wallace,

Protits maybe? as being the "life" in seawater? I believe it was Dr. Bechamp who in the 1800's did some research and found these microscopic forms still living in fossils that were millions of years old - the progenitors of all life, transmutable, "from ashes to ashes, dust to dust". He called them protits and to me, they could be the explanation of how living seawater could transmutate into blood. The idea of these indestructible protits fascinates me, when I read about them I was like, say what?? You just don't learn about this stuff in traditional biology classes.

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Re: Salt/Iodine
Posted by: Bryan ()
Date: September 27, 2007 04:39AM

Salt (sodium chloride) is bad for you. Sodium is a necessary nutrient, though the human body is extremely efficient at preserving sodium in the body, and not efficient at eliminating it. Sodium you can get from foods like celery and tomatoes.

Iodine is available in produce that was grown in soil that has iodine in it. There are only a few places that have iodine deficient soil (like Minnesota or some other midwestern state). Except for produce grown in the iodine deficient soils, eating fruits and vegetables will get you enough iodine for your bodies needs.

If you feel you need salt, then eat it. Its certainly cheap and plentiful. And if it makes you feel better, who knows, perhaps for you it is healthy. For me, it makes me thirsty and makes my face look puffy/bloated.

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Re: Salt/Iodine
Posted by: Faithfully10 ()
Date: September 27, 2007 12:59PM

I was eat SAD minus salt.

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Re: Salt/Iodine
Posted by: karennd ()
Date: September 27, 2007 03:21PM

Yeah, completely salt free on the S.A.D. can spell trouble. I have heard of cases. But no such worries if you are eating plenting of fruits & veggies.

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Re: Salt/Iodine
Posted by: wallace ()
Date: September 28, 2007 12:26PM

[www.plasmaquinton.com]

I tried it for several months with no great success(orally) but I would definitely have it injected as was done til 1982 in France, but thats sadly not possible!!

It has been on sale in France since 1897!

Wallace

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Re: Salt/Iodine
Posted by: wallace ()
Date: September 28, 2007 12:55PM

Actually I did self inject a little but the you need to inject much larger quantities for it to work!!!

Wallace

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Re: Salt/Iodine
Posted by: Bryan ()
Date: September 28, 2007 02:37PM

Injecting stuff into your body is asking for trouble. Our bodies have this thing called an immune system, and putting stuff directly into the blood bypasses quite a bit of the immune system. Its one thing if the stuff being injected is because of a life or death situation. But for a supplement? Better to eat your fruits and vegetables, IMHO.

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Re: Salt/Iodine
Posted by: aquadecoco ()
Date: September 28, 2007 04:21PM

Yeah, why go to such lengths when health is actually quite simple: time and diet.

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Re: Salt/Iodine
Posted by: wallace ()
Date: September 28, 2007 04:36PM

Even Natural hygiene doesnt claim that health is just time and diet, its a little more complicated!!!

Using the Sea therapeutically goes back to Hippocrates.

Wallace

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Re: Salt/Iodine
Posted by: Bryan ()
Date: September 28, 2007 04:51PM

wallace,

I see health of removing things that don't serve you rather than adding something new (adding something new is the mind). That is, remove elements of your lifestyle that take away health, and your health will return. Adding stuff (like sea therapy) doesn't address any cause of bad health. So how can it help?

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Re: Salt/Iodine
Posted by: Faithfully10 ()
Date: September 30, 2007 08:13PM

I bought a bag of kelp this week. I've never had kelp before. I thought I could just take it out of the bag and eat it. Well, it was too hard to chew or bite off? Can someone help me out here?


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Re: Salt/Iodine
Posted by: tropical ()
Date: September 30, 2007 08:26PM

What kind of kelp did you buy? Mine comes in powder form or granules. I think the powder is better than the granules because there seems to be sand-type stuff in the granules.

My guess at what you could do with the kelp that you bought, is to soak it until it is soft and then cover it with pasta sauce and eat it as a pasta (so you don't taste the seaweed taste).

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Re: Salt/Iodine
Posted by: tropical ()
Date: September 30, 2007 09:01PM

So I looked at the package of arame that I have and on the back it said that it is a kind of kelp, so I guess kelp comes in many forms. That's great because I'm not to keen on the powder (It's something to be endured) I think dulse is better as a salt substitute than powdered kelp.

Here is how some people fix their seaweed by putting it in a dehydrator with pasta sauce.
[www.rawfoodtalk.com]

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Re: Salt/Iodine
Posted by: Mama Cass ()
Date: September 30, 2007 09:52PM

i went sodium free for years, but my problem wasn't salt, but wheat.

but i still eat a low sodium diet, most of the time i add no salt to my foods. but every so often, my body wants salty things. i keep dulse on hand, and sea salt.

i just went through a huge salt-eating phase. i desperately craved it, and would be unsatisfied with food unless i added salt. so finally i broke down (worried about puffiness) and ate sodium rich foods. then i stopped wanting it, and realized that my body was in the phase of pregnancy where i added 40-50% more blood for the baby. Dur! i'm glad i ate the salt!!!

So listen to your body. like bryan, i don't like puffiness and swelling, but i also don't agree that all salt is bad. deer and other wild animal congregate to salt licks- there is something there that the body needs to stay balanced. but be cautious and aware. SAD diets train your mouth to like different kinds of foods than your body actually does.

peace-


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Re: Salt/Iodine
Posted by: aquadecoco ()
Date: September 30, 2007 11:15PM

wallace Wrote:
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>
> Using the Sea therapeutically goes back to
> Hippocrates.
>
> Wallace


So what? So does cooked food.


People panic when they first approach a raw diet - they have to slowly let go of their old ideas.


But you can eat and inject all the salt you want, and see how it works for you. Trial and error and first hand experience is valuable.

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