Friends,

So i came back to London from India a few days ago and still i have this parasite in my gut, and i don't know what to do. Suicide? Considering the climate too that would feel like a way to stop this suffering, maybe in next life i'd be born in an environment where i could actually find love somewhere. Only kidding please don't worry. My father always talked about killing himself, maybe it is a family Karma?

Anyway that would be better than get involved with western butchers known as doctors. If i DO have to end up meeting one of these people may god help them, really, as i have so much anger inside for people of this profession. And believe me i am not at all "shy" to express my emotions, shouting is something i've come to enjoy from time to time (hence i go to do AUM meditation sometimes). They'd get to hear EXACTLY what they are doing in the name of helping.

It is my FEELING that so-called doctors killed my father with their poisons, did so much damage to my mother and other of my relatives, could never EVER in my life give ANY useful advice and as i see they are the spokemen for drug companies. Saying all this there must be a few people there who DO actually want to help people? It is difficult for them too to finght against the system even if they want to do something different and do some actual good.

On the other hand maybe it is my Karma i have to get help from them, then i can say at least once in my life they DID manage to help me. Even thinking about that possiblity already diffuses some of the anger i feel. You see everything in life has a purpose, even getting sick.

So i got this parasite about 1 week ago. Since then i've tried taking bentonite, done daily enemas (also with coffee), now i'm taking pro-biotics. And i eat only fruits. But still i have diarrhea and so much gas, from the taste that comes to my mouth from the gas i'd guess this parasite is Giardiasis, i have experience with that from few years back. What else can i do? It doesn't feel good for my body to take all kinds of "herbs", like garlic might be good but i just don't like it.
How would i take it anyway and how much?

It comes to my memory that what helped me in the past was colonics, so i've booked a time for that. But it is expensive and what if it doesn't work? Then what? But at least these people can maybe really help me as they actually look at the human being in front of them instead of the robot-like approach of allopathic doctors, as if you are nothing but your sickness. They don't even look you in the eyes, i have a good experience about that in Thailand.

The worst thing about this is i feel there is nobody here who can help me. London is so isolating place and people keep each other away, it really hurts me to feel this. And i live with friends but they are main stream people, they only rely on "normal" doctors.

Maybe i have to suffer like this because of my big ego who always thinks "i can't get sick". Today i was thinking how any parasite can live in this body, i take such good care of him. Maybe it is the acidity that comes from my unexpressed emotions that is a breeding ground for these things.

So please help, is the only option left antibiotics? Should i just go for that now instead of wasting money on colonics that might not work? But what if that would not work either? And then my immune system would be left totally defenceless for all the stuff that goes around in London.

Today i feel so very alone

Thanks for reading

Yari

Talk to a doctor. Not random people on the internet.

If YOU feel you are in crisis, and have given it your best shot at a more wholistic...healthy healing - then do whatever YOU feel you have to do to get out of crisis....THEN go back to living a healthier lifestyle. See a healthcare professional that specializes in the elimination of parasites if that is what you must do. There are no raw food police - and no one is judging you. When you are beyond your crisis...and you've put out the fire....you can work on your foundation. Don't you think?

-David Z. Mason

WWW.RawFoodFarm.com

Try a naturopath?

you're a very sensitive person. you probably take things in a lot deeper then most. do you live in an environment with lots of cars, noise, pollution, or alienated people? I wonder how you would be feeling if you were laughing in a tropical environment with light hearted free spirits who shared your same values? are you clear on your intentions of what you are doing in order to help others? what are you creating? I'm not saying you are or you aren't, i don't know you. they are just questions.

good luck. <3

One doctor almost killed my dad, but another one saved him (not from the other one--he really saved his life). If you are desperate, it is worth trying. Not all doctors are the same.

This is the best parasite cleanse I ever tried or heard of:
[www.frances.awarenesslife.com]

You also need to get the colon cleanse product:
[www.frances.awarenesslife.com]

Don't be put off by the fact that it's a multi-level company, or how the products are described. They work. You'll need to do the cleanse a couple of months to get all the critters out of the tissues. I don't think the other products are worth it, but Experience and Clear do the job.

(I'm not selling the stuff, just a happy customer).

you'll take bentonite, coffee enemas, and probiotics, and you'll seriously consider antibiotics, but you won't take herbs because it doesn't feel good to your body? herbs work great to cleanse parasites (black walnut hull, wormwood, clove, kamala, many others). you're in a major metropolitan city. you could ask a herbalist or the specialist at your local natural food store to recommend something, and help you figure out dosages, etc.

but if that doesn't feel right to you, don't do it.

seems like attacking the problem from multiple angles, including the emotional/psychological/spiritual ones, might help. louise hay ascribes problems in the small and large intestines to fear of letting go of the old/no longer needed, difficulty in assimilating experiences, and insecurity. if any of that feels true for you, you might consider working on that level. others have drawn an interesting analogy between the small intestine, which digests material input, and the brain, which digests impressions on the non-physical level--they then reason that small intestine disorders arise because the person is too
analytical, too given to criticism and fault-finding, as well as an indicator of fears we may have for our survival. in contrast, the large intestine reflects the unconscious, the realm of the dead, the fear of letting our unconscious with its repressed contents see the light of day, so we have difficulty in giving and letting go. the chinese five-element law associates small intestine problems with shock, sadness, discouragement, hurting, feeling unappreciated, and large intestine problems with guilt, grief, letting go, and forgiveness. like i said, if any of that resonates with you, it might be another facet of your health to explore, and working with those issues might help rid you of the physical manifestation.

or just think about what it means to have a parasite. are you being a parasite on anyone else, or participating in a parasitic relationship/allowing others to feed off of your energy? are you in a parasitic environment? if that rings true for you, can you create a little healing around that? you say you feel very alone... maybe you're not willing to get rid of your parasites because they are keeping you company! it sounds a bit crazy, but this is the sort of out-of-the-box brainstorming that might be useful for you to do!

good luck to you. i know you feel alone, but the truth is you are not alone. i hope you can find some awareness of that.

maui_butterfly, can you try to explain to me how you "work with these issues"?
Thanks,
Grayzie

You can try visiting curezone.org and go to the Parasite Forum for help there. Also you might try Lugol's Iodine 5% solution, you can purchase it online at jcrows.com and read about it there and at curezone too..at their Iodine Supplementation Forum..just take what you want and leave the rest..sometimes the people there like going off topic and it's a bother I find.

You can take garlic in capsules or tablets, or chew up garlic cloves which aren't so bad really. You can also add them to fresh made green juices if you have a juicer. If you don't like it, don't do it though. Oil of Oregano might also help.

I don't see how a colonic is going to help rid your body of paraistes. They need to be weakened and then killed off mostly thru some kind of herbal or harsh western medicines. Wormwood is excellent and you can add the tincture to any kind of juice, or water you want. Take it 3 x a day for 30 days. You have a lot of options as people here have stated.

You are not alone, there are people all around you where you are..open your eyes, go out and meet folks, join a group..find people you like in activities you like. Turn your thoughts outwards, and project what you want and then ask the Universe to provide it for you..it can be yours.

Love,
Prism

Prem Yari,

I'm so sorry to hear about your health issues. I too recently went through a weird health issue after almost 2 yrs on raw, so I really empathize with how frustrated and alone you feel. I felt the same way. It's frustrating when you can't think of anyone you can turn to.

I also felt so angry at the doctors, just like you. I think you may be right about the Karma thing - when I read that, I thought how weird you should say just that, because I think it's what I experienced, and I even wondered at the time if it was Karma. Because the final doctor I encountered was the most amazing man - he was a big cuddly teddy bear of sweetness & compassion - that one encounter completely erased all my anger that I had towards doctors. He LISTENED to me, to my entire self-diagnosis and self-treatment story, and didn't even raise an eyebrow. As I was leaving he came and put his arm around me and said "Don't worry, I checked all your lab tests myself, everything is normal. You're going to be just fine." I can't even tell you how good that made me feel.

As for your parasite, it's not a topic I know anything about - however, since it's a natural occurring event, I have some faith & confidence that there is a natural antidote for ridding the parasite. I'm not sure antibiotics would help, as they specifically target bacteria. If this were happening to me, I myself would probably first thoroughly research the internet or find a book on the topic, then I would visit a doctor to get his opinion, then I would make a decision on what course of action to take. Definitely I would also consider natural healers - it seems to me that over thousands of years of natural healing practices being handed down through generations, someone surely has figured out a cure for parasites. Don't rule out herbs - some of them can be quite effective.

Good luck!!

Love,
Sunshine

I frequently throw in some fresh garlic into my juicer or blender. My favorite is orange/apple/garlic juice. Its lip smacking good but if you leave out the garlic it is very tepid and is missing something. I really like the garlic in that drink so I usually use several cloves per drink and sometimes use 1/2 a bulb or more. If you like garlic you will love this drink and the parasites will hate it.

Prem Yari,

Before doing anything, I would make sure that parasites were the problem.

If I had parasites, I would find a place that would conduct a long supervised water fast for me. Something like a month to six weeks or so. And then I would fast until the parasites were gone. I've heard of cases taking 5 weeks to eliminate persistent parasites. I definitely wouldn't want to poison myself with antibiotics.

My guess is colonics won't help, unless all the parasites are in the colon only. If they are elsewhere, you will just get them back again.

I like what davidzanemason and maui_butterfly are saying.

I would feel pretty comfortable going to a regular doctor for a parasite - it's something that truly did enter your body, and doctors are good at stuff like that. Also there are doctors who specialize in tropical diseases. And you don't HAVE to opt for their treatment - you can just get properly diagnosed, listen to their treatment options and decide for yourself.

grayzie, sure.

okay, say i had a physical problem that was stubborn and wouldn't go away. i would do everything that i could think of to address the problem on a physical level, but i would also think about:

(1) what possible benefit am i getting from this problem (ex. i get sympathy, others do things for me, i have an excuse not to do x, etc.)

(2) what does this problem represent in my life? (ex. stored fat may represent "baggage" that i am carrying around and not able/willing to let go of, or parasites might represent the a parasitic quality in my relationship with my boss, etc.). if you don't know what the problem represents, there are plenty of theories (louise hay is a great resource for this, but there are lots of others), not all of them will apply to you, but you can keep exploring until you find something that resonates

(3) what are the painful and stressful thoughts that i am having around this problem that i might be able to question and let go of (ex. this eczema makes me look ugly, i have cancer because i did something wrong, etc.).

once i identified my "issues", i would start to "work with them". say i had a realization that i might unconsciously want to stay sick as a way of avoiding having to do more things for myself. i might develop some power statements/affirmations around that, ex. "i am now willing to get well and drive myself to the store. i choose to be healthy and i am excited to do more and more things for myself. i now embrace wellness and independence." or say i realized that i was abusing food because i felt empty inside. i might write: "i choose to nourish myself with spiritual food. i feel whole, full, and complete. i easily release all blocks to my optimum health and well being." i might write it on my bathroom mirror in lipstick (if you come over to my house, you'll be amazed at what gets written on my bathroom mirror in lipstick!) or i might write it 100x on a piece of paper, fold it up, tie it with a strand of my hair, and burn it... and repeat that every night for seven nights. who knows? whatever feels powerful and good to me, and makes me laugh.

for the stressful/painful thoughts, i have found no more powerful tool than The Work of byron katie www.thework.com . say my stressful thought was "i shouldn't be so tired all the time" i would go through the steps... (1) is it true? (2) can i absolutely know its true? (3) how do i feel when i think the thought "i shouldn't be so tired all the time" when i am feeling worn out -- do i punish myself and go into self-flaggelation? do i push myself to complete my tasks instead of resting? (4) who would i be without the thought, if i was physically incapable of having the thought come into my head? i might be just a woman peacefully sitting here, feeling tired, deciding to take a nap... and (5) turn the thought around "i should be so tired" could it be true? yeah, maybe i should be feeling tired right now because my body needs some deep rest, and that is its signal to me. it is just doing its job, not thwarting me after all!

maybe that's a bad example, but you kind of get the picture. its just playing with the thought to see if you can get another angle on it, open up your perspective a bit, not be so attached to seeing it a certain way (especially if that way argues with reality).

i hope that helps explain it.

Dude. Giardiasis is something you will have for TWO WEEKS. I can't believe nobody has mentioned this here. Of course you're miserable - you're only in week one!! It has nothing to do with emotional issues.

It's just something that takes TIME to get rid of. It comes from people crapping and not covering it up, flies landing on it, and then landing on your food. You can get it no matter how healthy you are.

Suicide and other self-defeating thoughts are not going to help you. A DOCTOR or NATUROPATH will.

I used to be VERY against doctors until I almost died giving birth to my son. I ate as healthy as possible and did all kinds of healthy things during my pregnancy, and I still almost bled to death. If I hadn't gone to the hospital I would be DEAD. Doctors DO serve a function. Antibiotics are NOT the end of the world. Now to CONTINUE CONSTANTLY on the path of western medicine - yes, I think that would be a great error, but in the case of giardia? No.

I am REALLY sorry to hear you have giardiasis. Some of my backbacking friends have had it and said it was the most miserable, horrible, painful, awful disease they have ever had. I think antibiotics would be the best solution. You CAN heal your body from the effects of antibiotics. Stop beating yourself up over something that is purely physical... just my humble opinion!


Me (30), Joseph (24 mo.) Jeremiah (4 mo.)

We are enjoying spring and being outside!!!



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angie love your lolo hotsprings photos! (i've been there...) what a precious little floater!

What about Collidial Silver. I've never used it, but heard it's good for bacterial infections as an alternative to antibiotics

Prem Yari,

I think you should go to a doctor. There is not a thing wrong with that. If parasites is the problem, take the antibiotics / medicines your doctor gives you. You can get back to your raw life after that. There is nothing wrong with that.


Raw life, it is a life long process, one time if you take antibiotics/ medicines to eliminate some suffering is NOT going to hurt you very bad. You can again heal your body after you feel better.

You are NOT alone, GOD your higher conciousness is always guiding you.

Take care
A Iyer

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dinobambino Wrote:
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> What about Collidial Silver.

My opinion is I prefer natural remedies that come in the form of plant based foods. Colloidal Silver hasn't been incorporated into the plant and become one with the plant. I put it in the same category as conventional medical drugs. Hippocrates taught "Let food be your medicine and your medicine food". That works for me.

angie1 Wrote:
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> Dude. Giardiasis is something you will have for
> TWO WEEKS. I can't believe nobody has mentioned
> this here. Of course you're miserable - you're
> only in week one!! It has nothing to do with
> emotional issues.
>
> It's just something that takes TIME to get rid of.
> It comes from people crapping and not covering it
> up, flies landing on it, and then landing on your
> food. You can get it no matter how healthy you
> are.
>
> Suicide and other self-defeating thoughts are not
> going to help you. A DOCTOR or NATUROPATH will.
>
> I used to be VERY against doctors until I almost
> died giving birth to my son. I ate as healthy as
> possible and did all kinds of healthy things
> during my pregnancy, and I still almost bled to
> death. If I hadn't gone to the hospital I would
> be DEAD. Doctors DO serve a function.
> Antibiotics are NOT the end of the world. Now to
> CONTINUE CONSTANTLY on the path of western
> medicine - yes, I think that would be a great
> error, but in the case of giardia? No.
>
> I am REALLY sorry to hear you have giardiasis.
> Some of my backbacking friends have had it and
> said it was the most miserable, horrible, painful,
> awful disease they have ever had. I think
> antibiotics would be the best solution. You CAN
> heal your body from the effects of antibiotics.
> Stop beating yourself up over something that is
> purely physical... just my humble opinion!


Angie, your baby is beautiful and I'm glad you've healed. I agree with you in mentioning that what needs to be healed simply needs to be healed. I believe all illness in the body is an end result however. It begins with emotional blockages, trauma, pain, unexpressed emotions,resentments, self-hatred...etc. Which finally manifest as "physical" illness. In order to heal completely, in my opinion, you must get to the core eventually and heal the emotional trauma from your emotional body. It's a circle.

Using myself as an example, I broke several bones in my body and absolutely needed the brilliant help of orthopedic surgeons to help my body heal itself. I view them as mechanics and I was responsible for the rest. Well and my body did most of the work of course, let's give credit where credit is due. :-) Even after my bones healed, I realized I needed to get to the heart of why I broke my leg in the first place. I was not in a good place in my life, had just ended an abusive relationship, didn't enjoy my career anymore, so on and so forth. I won't go into too much detail, but the insight I gained that it's not all about it being physical became very clear to me in my own healing process. There were many years of harbored crap that lead up to the day that I broke my leg. Everything is connected.

So circling back to Yari...

Yari, most definately go get yourself a good doctor or homeopath or naturopath and heal your body. Release any fears that you have about them and what happened to your Dad. I can relate, the same thing happened to my own father when he passed of lymphoma cancer (one of the most horrendous cancers) many years ago. Took me many years thereafter to heal my anger and distrust of medical doctors. They are not all the same is what I discovered, many are just as frustrated with the current system as the patients. True healers are embedded everywhere. One of my orthopedic surgeons was a Buddhist! What a Godsend for me. Like attracts like. If you believe you will find a doctor who you can relate to and vice versa, you will. If you continue to hold onto the belief that they're out to kill us all with their poisons, you'd better believe when you pick up the phone to find one, you will find exactly the doctor you hold in your mind's eye. Let it go and heal your body.

I love all of the advice you have received. I believe everyone brings great points and experiences to your healing crisis/opportunity. You're having a healing crisis to help you move to your next level of awareness, whatever that may be. You will figure it out and you will heal if you want to. Sending good vibes to you that you clear the parasite and figure out your next steps and discover why it happened in the first place. There's a reason for everything, even the painful and challenging stuff we tend to resist.

Peace,
~RawAngel

I agree that most but not *all* physical problems in the body come from emotional issues. Once a car hit me when I was biking (not too hard, and I had a helmet on). I walked home and cried (it was scary, and it was good emotional release to cry). But I had some bumps and bruises that took a few weeks to heal. Then it was over. Saying there were emotional issues would be reading too much into it. I got hit by a car and then I healed. I didn't ask to be hit by a car, it wasn't from issues in my life,the person just didn't look and bikes shouldn't be on the sidewalk (cars don't see you because they don't expect someone to be coming from so fast from the side).

rost0037 Wrote:
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> I agree that most but not *all* physical problems
> in the body come from emotional issues. Once a car
> hit me when I was biking (not too hard, and I had
> a helmet on). I walked home and cried (it was
> scary, and it was good emotional release to cry).
> But I had some bumps and bruises that took a few
> weeks to heal. Then it was over. Saying there were
> emotional issues would be reading too much into
> it. I got hit by a car and then I healed. I didn't
> ask to be hit by a car, it wasn't from issues in
> my life,the person just didn't look and bikes
> shouldn't be on the sidewalk (cars don't see you
> because they don't expect someone to be coming
> from so fast from the side).

Glad you healed from that and were not more seriously injured. You're amazing. I respectfully disagree with you simply based on my understanding of how energy systems work and how I believe we create our life experiences. I definately appreciate where you are, your experience and insight though and I'm sure it's true for many and they will hear you and learn from you. I just have to say, I didn't ask to be hit by a Ford Explorer on my motorcycle either. lol. But I most definately had the blinders taken off after the fact, that everything that happens to me is connected to me and begins with my thoughts. It's not an easy process to get to this place, believe me. I was right there with you in terms of my thinking...I merely had a motorcycle accident, no big deal. But later in my deeper healing process the truth revealed itself to me. That in fact, I brought the experience upon myself and it has been a great blessing in my life. It also brought me to raw foods which I most likely wouldn't have considered had I not been injured. Another story for another day. Regarding your accident, it's not always easy to see that we're always in the drivers seat, it's sometimes easier to put the onus on something or someone else. My humble opinion only.

Sincerely,
RawAngel



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