Brian Clement says juice made with a Norwalk Press
Juicer is dead after 15 minutes. However, that goes for
most other Juicers too. I believe he recommended the GreenStar,
but I'm not sure.
It was interesting that he takes 5 forms of Algae, one being
Sun Chlorella....which I've been taking, and getting good results.
It has B12.
I've never heard him speak to a group before. He's
rather 'blunt'. What do you think? I like him and his 'stance'
on Health, so that gives me permission to talk about him a little bit....WY

[www.youtube.com]

Well, we all know that enzymes begin to break down after juicing, or disturbing food from its' natural state; I have heard that cabbage juice breaks down in less than a minute. I didn't watch the vid., as I don't have 10 min. to do that at this time, so I don't know his reasoning for "bashing" the Norwalk juicer...

And, I don't take it personally, even though that is my main juicer. You can go crazy listening to all the different gurus, because the majority of them will not agree on many issues.

I find it interesting that he would promote a supplement such as Sun Chlorella/Algae...Can those be considered "live" foods? I understand that you may feel good/be getting good results from them...

But...so are some members of my family who take those liquid "Market America" vitamins/concoctions, & I would touch that stuff with a 10 foot pole! (lol) Course, they are propping themselves up with that in addition to their SAD lifestyle, so I guess any supplementation on their part would probably be a step in the right direction.


Again, I'm not taking it personally - I realize it might sound as I am, me being one of the only Norwalk owners on the board...

Just giving my .02 on the subject. When I am done working today & have a chance, I will view the vid., & maybe comment further. I do have an open mind, so I am interested in what he has to say on the subject.

I'd like to ask Brian about the issue of a possible link between cyanobacteria and ALS which I have posted about elsewhere:

[www.rawfoodsupport.com]

Also:

[www.youtube.com]

Does Brian reference any scientific data or is this just his opinion?

Also, a tangent... but what's the cleanup time for a Norwalk compared to a Green Star? I'm curious. Clean up tires me. Also, besides cutting up the vegetables, what's the labor/effort involved with a Norwalk? Sometimes the physical effort is a too much for me. (I have ALS.) Not that I have 1k for a used juicer, but I was wondering.



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Lee_123 Wrote:
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> I'd like to ask Brian about the issue of a
> possible link between cyanobacteria and ALS which
> I have posted about elsewhere:
Scroll down to the bottom of this link, and give
Brian Clement a call. His email address is also there.

[www.aliveraw.com]

Cool!

I'm going to email him right now. I will let you know if I get a response. Thanks!

Wheatgrass Yogi Wrote:
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> Brian Clement says juice made with a Norwalk Press
>
> Juicer is dead after 15 minutes. However, that
> goes for
> most other Juicers too. I believe he recommended
> the GreenStar,
> but I'm not sure.
> It was interesting that he takes 5 forms of Algae,
> one being
> Sun Chlorella....which I've been taking, and
> getting good results.
> It has B12.
> I've never heard him speak to a group before. He's
>
> rather 'blunt'. What do you think? I like him and
> his 'stance'
> on Health, so that gives me permission to talk
> about him a little bit....WY
>
> [www.youtube.com]


WY - He basically says that juices from any juicer are dead after 15 min., any juicer - He mentions all the "heavy hitters"...Green Star included. He also blasts blenders as being in the same category as a centrifical juicer. I haven't watched all the vids to see his position on VItamix/Blendtec, etc., but I would guess that he would say they are bad as well, since they are high powered blenders.

I have heard of Brian Clement before, but never looked into what he stands for. You mentioned he is rather "blunt". Definatly so, I completely agree. Furthermore, that type of delivery completely turns me off, so even if the speaker, any speaker, has good information, I find them very hard to take seriously.

That coupled with the fact that I take a dim view of suit wearing "motivational/power speakers", almost to the point of putting them into the same category as politicians...To me, it all boils down to "follow the money"...I could go on with much more, but I don't really want to speak negatively against Mr. Clement. He does his own thing, so if that works for him, that's good.

I am sure that the therapy institute (Oasis) would be a better choice than any hospital that you could name, since they use all natural (I assume) therapies.

Personally, I don't believe that God made nutrition so very difficult, so that only the elite, well educated, rich folks on the planet could benefit from it. That is, if you believe in the whole God/creation story...


Note - I did read in an article on this website where he states that it is okay to consume cooked foods at times. I am guessing that he is not a complete raw foodist?

Just my .02., we are all entitled to our own opinions!~

juicerkatz Wrote:
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> Note - I did read in an article on this website
> where he states that it is okay to consume cooked
> foods at times. I am guessing that he is not a
> complete raw foodist?
He's probably speaking of transitioning to Raw.
I'm 99% sure that Brian Clement is a 100% Raw Vegan. His
idea of a No-Fruit, or Low-Fruit, Diet is somewhat revolutionary
among Raw Foodists. His personality is a bit difficult to take,
but I do like his stance on many issues. I might be so bold to
say he lacks a sense-of-fairness. You probably weren't a member
at this Forum when he challenged David Zane Mason (a 100%
Fruitarian) to take a Blood Test. I don't know all the particulars,
but I didn't like the way he handled it.
Again, I've used my Raw Vegan license to criticize someone whose
ideas I basically like......WY
P.S. I'm glad you took a little time to view some of the video.
You're a busy man.

"You probably weren't a member
at this Forum when he challenged David Zane Mason (a 100%
Fruitarian) to take a Blood Test. I don't know all the particulars,
but I didn't like the way he handled it. "

That would have been interesting, I would like to know what the discussion was surrounding that challenge. I will check out some more of his videos, I am interested in learning where he comes from, what his whole approach is...

I remember that pissing match.

<sigh>

I don"t think there is a one-size-fits-all diet. I think there are some basic principles we can agree on, but the nitty gritty depends on our genetics, our lifestyle since birth, etc.

Lee_123 Wrote:
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> I don"t think there is a one-size-fits-all diet. I
> think there are some basic principles we can agree
> on, but the nitty gritty depends on our genetics,
> our lifestyle since birth, etc.
Exactly!! It also depends on our individual preferences.
There may be a one-size-fits-all, but we'd all have to 'tweak' it
to suit ourselves.
Lee....I hope you're doing well. May I suggest Chlorophyll as a healer.
I like Chlorella now, in addition to Seaweeds, fresh Greens, and Wheatgrass
Juice.....WY

No response from Brian Clement yet.

Where does chlorella come from? I'm interested. I think spiriulina is out for me. But, I'm wondering if chlorella would be ok...

If anyone has any links as to how it is processed, please share!

Yes, fresh greens, of course! I have got to start growing my wheatgrass or win the lottery. ha ha

I've been overwhelmed with work and my own personal stuff that I haven't gotten into growing my own yet. I'm struggling with fatigue.

Thanks!

i looked this up a few months ago .. apparentlyif you can secure the culture you can grow it easily at home in small batches hehe, of course without the right equipment to test for contamination of some sort you might end up with some green monster on your hand lol

i make a type of green water extract whichis along the same idea for my fish tanks

[www.wikihow.com]

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist




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Jgunn Wrote:
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> i make a type of green water extract whichis along
> the same idea for my fish tanks
I wouldn't attempt to grow my own Chlorella because
in order for the Body to utilize it, the cell-walls have
to be broken. The best method is called DYNO-mill by Sun Chlorella....WY

[www.sunchlorellausa.com]

yes i wouldnt make it for my own consumption either lol .. mainly because i dont trust my own chemistry and biology knowledge

however the fish quite enjoy it

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

Lee_123 Wrote:
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> Where does chlorella come from? I'm interested. I
> think spiriulina is out for me. But, I'm wondering
> if chlorella would be ok...
It's a single-cell, freshwater, Green Algae. I'm so
convinced it'll help you that I'll have a factory-sealed,
30 serving supply sent to you. Take it 3 times a day, with water,
on an empty stomach, for 10 days, and let us know what you think.
Just send me your mailing address.....WY
P.S. Mark Drucker, M.D. (featured in both videos) has written a
nice book on Chlorella (2002, 130 pages). The videos, sadly, stress
heart disease and weight problems....targeting the mass public. A bit too
commercial for me, but I still think Sun Chlorella is the Best.

[www.sunchlorellausa.com]

No need to pay for it. I will pick up some this weekend. I have seen the brand you mention in my local health food store. My concern is drinking it on an empty stomach straight up. Would fruit juice lessen the efficacy?

Lee_123 Wrote:
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> No need to pay for it. I will pick up some this
> weekend.
Are we talking about the same thing? Here's what
I was going to send you....a 20 serving supply. I could get
it to you in a couple of days. AllStarHealth.com is the Best
when it comes to quick delivery.
You can take it with Water, Juice, or Food.....WY

[www.allstarhealth.com]

Lee_123 Wrote:
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> ..............I will pick up some this
> weekend. I have seen the brand you mention in my
> local health food store.
I'm worried that you're not going to do it. Allow
me to push just a bit....it makes me feel better knowing
that I tried. Again, let me send you some Chlorella.
I find I'm now using food and water as a vehicle to move
Chlorophyll through my Body.
Let us hear how you're progressing.....WY

WY -

I tried looking up "DYNO-mill by Sun Chlorella" on allstarhealth.com...guess I am looking in the wrong area. Can you send me a link, or give me the exact name of what you are using?

Thanks!

juicerkatz Wrote:
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> I tried looking up "DYNO-mill by Sun Chlorella" on
> allstarhealth.com...guess I am looking in the
> wrong area. Can you send me a link, or give me the
> exact name of what you are using?
DYNO-mill is a process used to render Chlorella
usable by the human body. There are others not as effective
that use Heat and Chemicals.
'Sun Chlorella' is the brand name of the Best Chlorella.
You can 'Google' DYNO-mill to learn more.
Here's a link to the products I use.....WY

[www.allstarhealth.com]

WY -

Are you using the granules or tablets? I was also interested in the E3Live supplement which contains algae. I posted a thread on it in the past, seems not many forum members were interested in it, which I can understand, as many of us do not do the supplement thing.

I found it interesting that Dr. Gabriel Cousens takes E3Live & has taken the nutritional algae for over 20 years...

juicerkatz Wrote:
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> WY - Are you using the granules or tablets?
Both. I use the granules in my Seaweed Smoothies,
and the tablets with Water or Juice. I like the big (500mg)
tablets best.

> I found it interesting that Dr. Gabriel Cousens
> takes E3Live & has taken the nutritional algae for
> over 20 years...
That is interesting. There are many 'Purists' at
this Forum who would never consider such a thing, but I'm
not at that Level yet.....WY

I want to be a purist but I don't think I have the luxury.

:-\

Wheatgrass Yogi Wrote:
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> juicerkatz Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > WY - Are you using the granules or tablets?
> Both. I use the granules in my Seaweed Smoothies,
>
> and the tablets with Water or Juice. I like the
> big (500mg)
> tablets best.
>
> > I found it interesting that Dr. Gabriel Cousens
> > takes E3Live & has taken the nutritional algae
> for
> > over 20 years...
> That is interesting. There are many 'Purists' at
> this Forum who would never consider such a thing,
> but I'm
> not at that Level yet.....WY


Define "Purist" in your explanation; I am guessing that you mean a total/complete raw foodist that would never consider using a supplement?

juicerkatz Wrote:
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> Define "Purist" in your explanation; I am guessing
> that you mean a total/complete raw foodist that
> would never consider using a supplement?
Wikipedia sums it up pretty well. I was applying
it to Diet. No 'Purist' would ever consider Wheatgrass
Juice, or Chlorella, as a food supplement.
Omitting all Cooked Food goes without saying......WY

[en.wikipedia.org]

I often throw a tablespoon of chlorella powder into our green smoothies.

I used to be a fundamental extremist. I'm learning to be a bit more flexible in my life.

Live Well, Laugh Often, Love Much
We are all in this together!
Namasté

Hi Lee 123

I hope you are doing better. I like your spunk and your willingness to do what it takes to improve. I am sending you a hug and wishing you the best

WY

you're cool

la_veronique Wrote:
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> WY
>
> you're cool
Thanks La_V, you're not so bad yourself.
If there's one thing I've learned in Life it's "Go Liquid"
...both for fueling and healing the human Body. Take it
one step further by going Alkaline Liquid, with the base
being Wheatgrass Juice.....WY

Thanks, La_V! I appreciate the good vibes and kind thoughts.

This particular forum is awesome, lots of good advice and good people.

I hope everyone has a good day today.

me

juice diary for today

broccoli
celery
1 pear
parsley
kale

glug glug glug

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

so yummmmeeeeeeee