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New Cold Press Juicer Alternative to Norwalk - Pure Juicers
Posted by: pborst ()
Date: November 13, 2015 12:15PM

There is a new alternative to a Norwalk called Pure Juicers. $2000 pre ordering for March 2016. [www.youtube.com]



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Re: New Cold Press Juicer Alternative to Norwalk - Pure Juicers
Posted by: sanfordclark ()
Date: November 13, 2015 01:18PM

Looks like they are importing the pure juicer from China. No wonder it is cheaper. Too bad.

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Re: New Cold Press Juicer Alternative to Norwalk - Pure Juicers
Posted by: pborst ()
Date: November 13, 2015 02:03PM

BMW builds its motorcycles in China. Breville does it manufacturing in China. Where it is manufactured is not important. Who manufactures it and their quality control is!

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Re: New Cold Press Juicer Alternative to Norwalk - Pure Juicers
Posted by: DavidF ()
Date: November 13, 2015 03:12PM

Hi Sanford,

Yesterday you asked if I would say. "Proudly Made in China". Sure. I'm proud that we make a better juicer. Today China, tomorrow the UK, and who knows maybe Proudly Made In USA.

Wherever we build we will have high standards. This notion that, Made in USA is somehow better even though the machine has not had a redesign in 40 years and has a long list of know flaws does not make sense to me.

Please explain why it is better to purchase a Made/Built/Assembled in USA machine with known flaws for more money makes sense?

Before you answer, please confirm your computer, TV, Stereo, phone and car are also US made. I'd like to know that the same standard is being applied to all your consumer products?

David
Pure Juicers

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Re: New Cold Press Juicer Alternative to Norwalk - Pure Juicers
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: November 13, 2015 03:56PM

Wow, looks like a well engineered and designed machine. I'm tying to go through the mini videos now to see more detailed treatment. (YouTube is soooo slow for me on weekends I may have to wait till Monday).

I remember Matt Monarch saying the 'titrator', (or whatever it's called), and not the hydraulic press is the real thing that sets the Norwalk juicer's juice apart. I wonder how this machine stacks up to the Norwalk in that most crucial department.

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Re: New Cold Press Juicer Alternative to Norwalk - Pure Juicers
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: November 13, 2015 04:13PM

Ok, I just went through the mini videos and they look like just tidbits from the main video.

On watching the main video again I noticed, @1:42, "pure juicer company" is spelled "pure juicor company" on the nameplate. Hope that's all that was lost in translation ...

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Re: New Cold Press Juicer Alternative to Norwalk - Pure Juicers
Posted by: sanfordclark ()
Date: November 13, 2015 04:15PM

So when can we expect to see "Proudly Made In China" on the pure juicer website. If you are so proud of that then put it out there and stop being so defensive about it. People who are concerned about the provenance of this clone deserve to know.

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Re: New Cold Press Juicer Alternative to Norwalk - Pure Juicers
Posted by: DavidF ()
Date: November 13, 2015 06:23PM

Hi Sanford,

Competition is good. The Pure Juicer is a superior Juicer that happens to be Made in China. I respect that your buying decision. Would you like to discuss the features that make it better or compare specifications?

Pure NW 280


Kickback N Y

Housing Attachment Twist & Lock Wing nuts

# Grids 8 8

Press time Limit None 10 seconds

Press Up time 15 seconds 20 seconds
Press down time 4 seconds 6 seconds

Pressure 5000lb 4000lb

Yield 125% 100%

Cutter Metal SS 440 SS 304
Hardened Steel Y N
Teeth 8 5


Maximum per Squeeze 710ml/24oz 473ml/16oz

Press Capacity 3 Pack 2 Pack

Tall Sloped Tray Yes Yes

Food Contact Parts SS SS

Press Plate SS 304 Aluminum

Press Plate Removable Y N

Press Plate DW Safe Y N

LWH Inches 15”x 15 x 17 15”x 15” x 17”

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Re: New Cold Press Juicer Alternative to Norwalk - Pure Juicers
Posted by: DavidF ()
Date: November 13, 2015 06:42PM

Specs:



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Re: New Cold Press Juicer Alternative to Norwalk - Pure Juicers
Posted by: sanfordclark ()
Date: November 13, 2015 07:43PM

Competition is good. I agree. But only when both teams are playing by the same rules. It will be interesting to see a side by side comparison of specs by someone with no money on the game.

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Re: New Cold Press Juicer Alternative to Norwalk - Pure Juicers
Posted by: DavidF ()
Date: November 13, 2015 08:09PM

Hi Sanford,
I completely agree, don't take my word for it!
I'll also say regardless of spec. The Pure is easier to use and clean and those testimonials keep coming in.
David

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Re: New Cold Press Juicer Alternative to Norwalk - Pure Juicers
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: November 13, 2015 08:20PM

pborst Wrote:
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> There is a new alternative to a Norwalk called
> Pure Juicers. $2000 pre ordering for March 2016.
> [www.youtube.com]]

Does the company have any track record? Have you seen one and/or tasted the juices it has made? Are you interested in buying one? Would you invest in one based largely on a few local testimonials from juice bars praising ease and speed of use in a commercial setting?

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Re: New Cold Press Juicer Alternative to Norwalk - Pure Juicers
Posted by: DavidF ()
Date: November 13, 2015 09:16PM

SueZ,

The Pure Juicer is a new project a start up. We will make our history as we go. Thank you for asking it's a great question.

As background, I am the largest rebuilder and reseller of NW Juicers in the world. I have hundreds of satisfied NW customers and thousands of parts and press cloth customers.

I am an designer/inventor and engineer with a career in manufacturing in the USA and around the world.

I made the Pure Juicer because I thought I could make a better juicer. Now it's up to the market.

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Re: New Cold Press Juicer Alternative to Norwalk - Pure Juicers
Posted by: DavidF ()
Date: November 13, 2015 09:58PM

Hi Sanford,

This data is from a juice bar that has been using NW's for years:
[i227.photobucket.com]

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Re: New Cold Press Juicer Alternative to Norwalk - Pure Juicers
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: November 14, 2015 08:32AM

DavidF Wrote:
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> SueZ,
>
> The Pure Juicer is a new project a start up. We
> will make our history as we go. Thank you for
> asking it's a great question.
>
> As background, I am the largest rebuilder and
> reseller of NW Juicers in the world. I have
> hundreds of satisfied NW customers and thousands
> of parts and press cloth customers.
>
> I am an designer/inventor and engineer with a
> career in manufacturing in the USA and around the
> world.
>
> I made the Pure Juicer because I thought I could
> make a better juicer. Now it's up to the market.

DavidF, of the pure juice Co. based in the ritzy Seattle office, are you pretending to be WilliamP, based in CA?

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Re: New Cold Press Juicer Alternative to Norwalk - Pure Juicers
Posted by: DavidF ()
Date: November 14, 2015 10:14AM

No Affiliation with William P
David

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Re: New Cold Press Juicer Alternative to Norwalk - Pure Juicers
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: November 14, 2015 11:10AM

DavidF Wrote:
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> No Affiliation with William P
> David

Thanks, David. I just googled around and it seems you are totally legit and have outstanding cred.

Personally, I'm not ready, just yet, to step up from my Wells Press but I will be interested in investing in one of your juicers in the future and I wish you much success.


Please consider, as a future project, building an Indian type mixee blender/cocoa bean grinder with at least a small sized ss carafe. All of them are built like pieces of shite but the whole world keeps buying them because there is nothing better available to use for what they were designed to do.

This is the one I keep having to buy again almost every year. It's the only one with blades that are placed low enough ...

[www.innoconcepts.com]

[cocoatown.com]

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Re: New Cold Press Juicer Alternative to Norwalk - Pure Juicers
Posted by: DavidF ()
Date: November 14, 2015 12:18PM

Hi SueZ

LOL, Ty for checking up on me.

I am not ready to enter the blender market our hands are full with the Pure production.

Assembled in USA (with imported parts) or Made in China? I understand the desire for US made things and there concerns with imports. Like all else the world is not Black and White. The question for me is about design and quality.The Pure is a huge improvement in design and the engineering is superior as well. Now our job is to deliver on the promise.

Thanks again for being open minded and doing the footwork.

David

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Re: New Cold Press Juicer Alternative to Norwalk - Pure Juicers
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: November 16, 2015 07:08AM

DavidF Wrote:
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> Hi SueZ
>
> LOL, Ty for checking up on me.

That's a first ty for that I can recall getting around here, lol.


>
> I am not ready to enter the blender market our
> hands are full with the Pure production.

Darn it. Maybe Breville or Dyson will have time for it.



> Assembled in USA (with imported parts) or Made in
> China? I understand the desire for US made things
> and there concerns with imports. Like all else
> the world is not Black and White.

Especially considering most of the world's scrap metal which most metally stuff is made of these days has probably been through the mills in China anyway.

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Re: New Cold Press Juicer Alternative to Norwalk - Pure Juicers
Posted by: pborst ()
Date: November 16, 2015 07:08PM

SueZ Wrote:
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> pborst Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > There is a new alternative to a Norwalk called
> > Pure Juicers. $2000 pre ordering for March
> 2016.
> > [www.youtube.com]]
>
> Does the company have any track record? Have you
> seen one and/or tasted the juices it has made? Are
> you interested in buying one? Would you invest in
> one based largely on a few local testimonials from
> juice bars praising ease and speed of use in a
> commercial setting?

Hey Sue. Sorry I'm late in getting back to you. As you already know, Pure Juicers is a start up. And so, I'm not willing to front money. I want to wait until 2017 or 2018, make sure they are solvent and profitable. It's the same reason I don't buy a new car model the first year. It takes time to get the bugs out

That said, I like David. I think he is a straight shooter. I like the product and the reviews. The fact that Norwalk isn't trying to compete makes me like Pure Juicers further. I hope they can make it until 17 or 18. Would love to own one. Right now I have a Super Angel and Tribest Slow Juicer (which I use in tandem when I juice)

David's inovations are remarkable. I am sure I will own a Pure Juicer soon.

Paul

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Re: New Cold Press Juicer Alternative to Norwalk - Pure Juicers
Posted by: lometogo ()
Date: February 21, 2016 12:12AM

pborst Wrote:
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> BMW builds its motorcycles in China. Breville
> does it manufacturing in China. Where it is
> manufactured is not important. Who manufactures
> it and their quality control is!


You are so right, pborst. I am American and live in China so I understand the poster's fears.

I am certain Chinese manufacturers are capable of producing high-quality goods. Unfortunately, the large majority of Chinese goods are of grossly inferior quality and have a lifespan of weeks or months.

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Re: New Cold Press Juicer Alternative to Norwalk - Pure Juicers
Posted by: lometogo ()
Date: February 21, 2016 12:16AM

DavidF Wrote:
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> As background, I am the largest rebuilder and
> reseller of NW Juicers in the world. I have
> hundreds of satisfied NW customers and thousands
> of parts and press cloth customers.


Hi DavidF, best of luck in your new endeavor. Can you either post your rebuild/resell website publicly, or PM me here?

Terence

PS: I live in Shenzhen, China and would love to try your juicer here in China; is that possible?

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Re: New Cold Press Juicer Alternative to Norwalk - Pure Juicers
Posted by: DavidF ()
Date: February 21, 2016 04:06PM

Hi Terry,
TY for locating me outside this form. Forum rules prevent me from ad hoc advertising. As I want to be respectful of the rules let's continue to chat off this forum. BTW, great chatting.
David

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Re: New Cold Press Juicer Alternative to Norwalk - Pure Juicers
Posted by: gypsyluv ()
Date: May 28, 2016 07:21PM

Hi David. How easy is the Pure Juicer to clean? Can I make frozen fruit sorbets with the pure Juicer? Thanks!

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