its about a hyper inteligent gorilla (Ishmael) who learns to communicate telepathically, and seeks out students to educate on the issues that he understands, that of 'captivity'.

Ishmael seperates human beings on the planet into TAKERS (the civilized) and LEAVERS (the all but wiped out nomadic and semi-agrarian 'tribes'). In a nutshell (The book is Ishmael's lectures ) Ishmael explains how the TAKERS assume that the rule of survival depends on keeping the resources under lock and key. and also that their failures (enviornmental damage etc..) would be synonomous with man's failures. even though the model set by the LEAVERS actually functions at an appropriate level for the surroundings where, untempered, yields abundance and plenty (until of course it is 'upset' by the TAKERS)

ps I can't sleep. ug.

anaken:

<<its about a hyper inteligent gorilla (Ishmael) who learns to communicate telepathically,>>

"Just call me Ishmael"... no relation, i suppose, cuz the moby dick story was about a bunch of takers

hell bent on spearing a whale ( cap'n ahab was on fire.. the poor bloke.. didn't know that the white whale was four million times his size.. tsk tsk.. no match, whatsoever... )

<<ps I can't sleep. ug.>>

i s'pose telling u to count sheep won't cut it

heh heh

but if u try to count all the blades in WY's wheatgrass ... u might end up falling asleep.. i imagine the man puts a lot of grass in his glass

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la_v.....I hope you'll try some Wheatgrass Juice. I drink mine straight...using a little 'shot glass', taking 1 ounce at a time. Swish it around in your mouth for a while before swallowing. Your whole mouth will come alive....makes those gums nice and pink too.
I've been doing a Watermelon Flush the past couple of days. Found the best little melons at my local store. They're not Organic, but are sweet, and the rind juice is dark and rich.....it 'feels' right, so why not?
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anaken that sounds like a real interesting read .. im gonna go on out an get me that

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

man...i just juiced a commerical grapefruit whole into my green juice...who said this was a good idea..yuck.spoiled the whole thing..I think i'm done with rinds from now on...the watermellon rind was fun and all and does taste slightly sweet..so i'm less suspicious..but I don't think we are really meant for such things..leave the watermellon rinds to the elephants.

guess today is going to be mostly air

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ana....I hear you on the Watermelon Rind. I have a ton of it in my frig waiting to be juiced. I think what I'll start doing is eating the melon then later juice the rind before eating any more melon. That way it won't accumulate.....WY

ugg i juiced some orange peel/rind and once some grapefruit peel/rind ... it ruined my juice too it was just way tooooooo strong for my tastes lol

that was a few years back ..im too scared to try again to see if my tastes changed lol

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

WY

<<.....I hope you'll try some Wheatgrass Juice. I drink mine straight...using a little 'shot glass', taking 1 ounce at a time. Swish it around in your mouth for a while before swallowing. Your whole mouth will come alive....makes those gums nice and pink too>>

ha ha.. my gums are already nice and pink
they can't get any pinker
so... I'.. pass on the wheatgrass for now ( still like all my other greenz though) maybe after i've taken a polar bear run... i'll lose my mind and start drinking the grass

hey anaken:

funny thing about how the grapefruit rind ruined your juice
made me laugh
but i actually felt bad for ya
i once did that with garlic
the ENTIRE juice tasted like MUCHO garlic
man it hurt my stomach too

jgunn:

tell me how the ishmael story goes
it may be a while before i go on another book binge
( then again, i never know when i will be seized by the uncontrollable urge to read about super intelligent gorillas doing cerebral guerilla warfare on TAKERS)

my juice tastes nice today
and it is still green
i will be hanging out with some friends today
i will just drink my juices ( or their juices)
and all will be fine

i'm getting to be a pro at the fine art of hanging out with friend without eating their sad looking grub

"call me veroniqueshmael"

update

so far, its a ***y day
a friend of mine sent me some photos
from his travels
they were beautiful
but they made me sad
i wonder why
i wonder, what photos have made me feel happy
there were a few

i think my hair will turn green
my juice tastes fabulous
i got into a groove

everything seems like its falling into place
at least for now
its like i'm in a trance
the rhythm of the air is good
as should be

JJ

thanks for the book recommendation
in the other post
it does look like something i would be very interested in
very much so

p.s. i don't know anyone whose drank more broccoli in the last week than i have

+

well I ended up with no mid-day juice and a failed trip to the bus-station to get outta dodge..but after taking a dam bus TO the bus station had the wrong schedule and my pop had to pick me up and bring me to the train. at that point I had enough with feeling woozy while traveling..so decided to end the juice job before I had to sit through cell conversations on the train back to the big city in a dizzy state..and dealing with subway farers etc...

so today was just

12:00 green juice grapefruit rind combo..that I hardley touched and made me ill

then I watched the passion of the christ. (great combo-abombo with the rind juice)

and then at 5:30 or so I squashed 2+ lbs of grapes..finished off another 2 lbs by 7:30 or so

no worries...was actually when I INTENDED to finish off the fast..clocked 100 hrs total.

so yeah, that was fun..

now begins fruit feast 07..untilllll next month...haha

actually i'm gonna do 10 days or so of light mono fruit eating..maybe some avos thrown in for 'kicks' then a short water fast. gonna try to keep up this routine every month.


LaV

I'v had certain images/songs trigger all sorts of things during fasts or periods of light eating/detoxing..sometimes I would just seize those triggers and have a instant response...useful tool if you want to get out the bad vibes..or if you are a budding actress..heh

anaken

its so true
i too get "flashbacks" usually very happy or compelling ones of the past
especially childhood memories of playing in the jungle gym etc.
don't ask me why
it just happens and i don't mind at all
then there are the not so happy stuff ( but they aren't memories just moods so its a toss up)

well, yesterday , i ate some fruit... but it was deelish and made me feel happy so i actually felt like i accomplished something great by eating it

but today, i'm gonna do a *** cuz i need to get into a trance like state ( (cuz helps me to focus so *** has its charming utility as well, very pragmatic in certain cases like NOW)



hey JJ

u greenstar fan , you
what's happening?
what juices are u kicking it with?

WY

do you do yoga while you drink wheatgrass? then you could be wheatgrass yoga yogi too
then we'd have to make you WYY

instead of just WY ( which always make me think of Wyoming)

i don't know anything about Wyoming. no one ever talks about it
i don't even know if i spelt it correclty
what on EARTH happens in that state, anyhow?

tamed it sown a bit la veronique

carrot and celery mostly..

did an apple juice with ginger and lemon.

all my wild grasses are now in the seed state and not for juicing anymore.

glad you liked the title....if anything else comes to mind ..i will share.

juice fast is over and i am transitioning back to "normal".


jj

JJ

<<did an apple juice with ginger and lemon.>>
hah!
yeah, i remember when u posted it
and i decided to make it just to see what it was all about
and it really was actually good

hope your "normal" is abnormally spectacular

(as should be)

me, i'm still drinkin'
i like to drink
as long as its green

drank the last of my verdancy
gonna make some more tommorrow
once i dreamt
in that dream
everyone was asleep
but they were walking
and their faces were impassive
and they were shoulder to shoulder
walking straight ahead
intent on some destination
and i was trying to say "hello"
to wake myself up from this trance
and when i awoke
it was the same

what a nightmare
and no it was not about NEW YORK
though perhaps it is

and it was not about new yorkers
it was about myself
i am trying to wake up
and so i am on this ***y trance
cuz only a trance can wake me up from the illusion

u are with me on this destination
i see

i saw you
it gave me hope

this can't all be about juices
can it?
if so

shoot me

Juicing is where it's 'at'. Keep that GreenStar running La_v.
I'm on a Watermelon Flush for a few days.**************WY

its about keeping spiritual selves alive, vibrant and scintillating.

you can feel its strenghth as it pulsates throughout your being.

peace and calm breathing and love nourish it and keep it strong.

you must harmonize with its vibration and flow with it.

it is what we are all about.

juice keeps the vehicle running smoothly.

jj

WY

<<Juicing is where it's 'at'. Keep that GreenStar running La_v.
I'm on a Watermelon Flush for a few days.**************WY>>

yeah juicin is definetely where its at
u said it
there's nothing like being inundated with hits of chlorophyll
it jolts me back to life
like sunlight streaming out of a jagged liver hued sky
watermelon *** sounds cool
beautiful

JJ

like yer carroty gingerish interpretation
it makes sense
yeah, very vibrant
thanks for the reminder
nice

***

get your green hearts back in here!!

i'm not lettin y'all leave here without skirmish

hrrrummPPHHHhhh!!


heeee heeee

i'm a vampire for something green

*+*
The Organic Peaches and Cherries wooed me today. The peaches were small, but very tasty. I may have to go for more. The cherries were the 'pits'. The 5 ounces of Wheatgrass Juice I drank this morning gave me a ravenous appetite.
La_v.....Do you plan on going *** on Sunday (tomorrow)? If so, I'll join you.....WY

*+*

yeah, well, i keep eating some of the apples
instead of juicing them
i just ate apples today

I actually DO plan on *** tomorrow
i got all my greens lined up
just gonna put them in the chute

zzzzzzzzzzz

glug glug

gonna makes some more greenies after i post this too

join me

maybe i oughtta get a fasting buddha too
but one that doesn't look so scary

where'dya get yours?

hey WY

hows it going?
so far, its a *** and its going well
made juice the first thing in the morning at around 6 AM
through in some dandelions, kale, celery and apples
made about a 2 quarts
hung out in nature for about 30 minutes exercising ( always fun
mornings like that are always great
i had a strange dream last night

wouldn't it be something if you woke up and you are still dreaming?

Ver.....Yes, I'm still *** today. I just put the Peaches in the frig for tomorrow.
"One day at a time, Sweet Jesus"...isn't that the way the song goes?.....WY
P.S. Are your Dreams affected by what you eat? We're in for some Pleasant Dreams if we stay with our Feast.

***

yeay!!

yeah, sometimes my dreams are affected by the JF
they are usually good
maybe that's why i like doing this

its a wonder i don't do this every day
considering all the pluses i get from it

<<"One day at a time, Sweet Jesus"...isn't that the way the song goes?.....WY>>

well, if u sing it, i might recognize it by the sounds
otherwise...

but , regardless
the song does have a fair amount of brains .. uh.. that line alone does, anyways.

funny thing
this morning i had to put apples in my juice

but right now, just drinking the greens straight and its tasting "sweeeeeeeeeettttt"

maybe my taste buds changed

luv it

Ver....*+*....You wouldn't want me to sing it. I think it's an old Negro Spiritual (as we used to say in the South, before the term 'Black' was coined and before we knew any better).
I'm going on a 2-week Juice Fast before I fly to NY to visit a friend of mine. I'm going to 'break' with her diet for 3 days just to see how I feel. She's a long time 100% Raw Vegan, and I think 100% Organic now that she's given up frozen Durian. She's a real Inspiration to anyone following a Dietary Path, no matter which one.
My Juice Fast will include strictly Wheatgrass, Celery, and Carrot. I'm going to stay away from the sweet Fruit. It makes me not want to drink my Wheatgrass Juice. That reminds me of something another friend told me. When her 2 boys were little she gave them a drink of Wheatgrass Juice. She said the look on their faces convinced her never to do that again. If she had raised them on WGJ rather than the sweet stuff, they would have taken it with a smile......WY
P.S. I haven't told her yet. Should I?
P.P.S. *** days are here to stay (for 2 weeks anyway). What are your plans Ver? Have you cleaned out your frig yet?

I will definetely go on the two week fast with you. Its good to be journeying with another.
I 'm just feeling plain HAPPY nowadays and I think the JF is helping big time. Don't know quite how to explain it... but its so true and I don't want my high to end ( just being honest). Yesterday was probably one of the most happiest days of my life. Strangley enough, though, I just feel that it just gets better and better. I have no idea why. But its a strong feeling.

I feel giddy right now.
I drank quite a bit of greens yesterday and about a pint this morning.
I think u ought to sing the song. do it, i tell u, DO IT!
or at least provide me a link

as far as me cleaning out my fridge
i'm at a good pace
i mean, its LOADED with verdancy

and keeping the juicing very consistent
so far so good
and planning it to continue in that vein

oh yeah, i didn't add any apples to my greenies last two days
but i did mix it with coconut juice

it lends it a nice sweet flavor without being overpowering

what's your take on coconut juice

do you do it?
do you like it?

Ver.....Happy***Days. Remember, just 'One Day at a Time, Sweet Jesus'...I'll remember it too.
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P.S. I do like Coconut Juice, but there's not enough juice and too much coconut (fat) for me.

oh wow.. u did provide a link
i heard that song on a country radio channel, ( i think)... i know i heard it SOMEwhere.. probably country music ( which i listen to when there is nothing else good on the other stations...

yeah it would be nice for the coconut to have more juice so i wouldn't spend so much time hacking it with a cleaver

the white coconut part is separate
so u can just leave it alone

anyhoo...
day is going well

had a nice walk and conversation with a friend early this morning
a real good way to start out the day
he even brought his dog along with him too

and we swung on the swings at the park
cuz i felt like it

that was fun
though i think i swung too high
and then i felt dizzy
for swinging too much
and had to get off the slide

even in preschool
i would do that
pump up the slide swing thing as high as i could
throw my head back
and make myself dizzzzzzy

some things never change

Ver....It sounds like you have fun wherever you go.
Well, it's down to the 'nitty-gritty' for me. No more excuses. My Peaches and Watermelon are gone. No more buying Figs, and Cherries, and other Goodies.
Shall we make today a *** Day? Today begins a 2-week Juice Fast for me. Join me if you can.....WY

<<Shall we make today a *** Day? Today begins a 2-week Juice Fast for me. Join me if you can.....WY>>

of course! i can

yesterday was awesome
i did feel a little tired mid day and wondered why... usually a green JF does not make me tired... then i realized... duhhhhhHHH.. i had only 3 hours of sleep.. no wonder! so i took a little mid day nap

a *** is in order for today as well
indeedy!
i had such a beautiful day yesterday
and i woke up feeling very cheerful

today is going to be a blaaaast!
i can feel it in my veins

i'm usually right about such things too (tis true!)

Le menu for today:
celery dandelions apple

you sound really good there la veronique!

makes me want to start another fast ,,,but some strenuous physical activities which i am involving with require that i sustain and manage my levals of energy.

have a fantabulous day.

juicin' john