Ice"creams" and sorbets?

Id search for sugar free recipes on google for normal ice cream that have lots of reviews/comments on them. then alter them to raw ingredients, many recipes that dont have normal sugar in it (or at least "raw" sugar) wont freeze right in a normal ice cream maker, same goes for recipes without fats of some kind... one trick I have heard of is including a small amount of alcohol, such as flavored liqueurs...

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What about honey or agave? Do you ever make anything with pureed fruit?

I haven't tried agave, but honey I have tried, it wont work in normal recipes, will work in some good sugarless recipes, im sure either would work in a good sugarless recipe, the reason why sugar is needed for stuff thats like normal ice cream, is because the sugar helps keep it from freezing to fast, if it freezes to fast then you wont get a good texture, alcohol in small amounts helps with this as well, Im fairly certain most recipes that use alcohol use no more than 1 oz, which really, you could eat the whole gallon and not even get a buzz off it, so im sure its perfectly fine, small amounts of alcohol are actually good for you.

As far as pureed fruit goes, Ive never made anything in an ice cream maker with pureed fruit, but I have in ice cube trays with my juicer, puree then put in ice cube trays, then run through my juicer with the blank once or twice, better texture if you run it through , then refreeze... any rich fruits will work awesome for ice cream like textures, banana, mango, coconut... I think if one where to use fruit puree in an ice cream maker, they may have to use a little alcohol to reduce the freezing speed...

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Have you ever used avocado? I love the texture they make in smoothies.

I Haven't, But I bet it would work wonders as a source of fat in a chocolate ice cream! Ive used it for like chocolate mousse and things like that, but not in ice cream... I think though youd have to be careful to get the right consistency to the original mixture, or it may not work out well in an ice cream maker... frozen in cubes for the juicer though im sure you could mix whatever you want with it and be fine! still, I think its fatty-ness works best with chocolate...I personally prefer my fruit stuff to be lighter, even when I used to make non-vegan ice cream, all of my fruit flavored ones where made with milk, not cream...

Also...banana coconut spice= awesome... I pureed banana, coconut water, little bit of cinnamon, and its quite tasty... I dont think that would work in an ice cream maker though, I just blended it up, froze it, then put it through my juicer, it was very delicious...

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I forgot to post a recipe from Alissa Cohen's new cookbook. It has a bunch of rawcream recipes and all have the basic ingredients like 2 cups cashews, agave (you mentioned that it couldn't be in a recipe for an icecream maker but apparently it can) and the flavorings. It was pretty basic (except that 4 vanilla beans is a bit expensive) so I am going to write down the recipe because the book is overdue!

it cant for a normal recipe is what I said, like you could substitute it for sugar in a normal ice cream recipe, but in a recipe specifically designed to work without sugar, then im sure it could be used, thats why I suggested checking on sugar free recipes, as you should be able to use any kind of sweetener you want in them... Ive tried substituting other sweeteners in normal recipes in the past, agave I haven't tried, but it shouldn't work in a normal ice cream recipe for the same reason other sweeteners dont... If a recipe calls for agave though, im fairly certain its been formulated to specifically work with it

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Curator: The proof is in the...icecream! This is from Alissa Cohen's new book "Raw Food for Everyone" (no copyright infringement meant)

Clove Ice Cream:

2 tsp. ground cloves
2 cups cashews
2 cups tightly packed coconut meat
4 cups coconut water
1 cup agave nectar

Combine in Vitamix until completely smooth and put in ice cream maker to freeze. Serve immediately or freeze.

I think you are still misunderstanding what im saying, look at that recipe, is that a normal ice cream recipe? no, its a recipe specifically formulated to work without sugar... thats what I was saying the entire time, if you try a recipe that calls specifically for sugar, and substitute agave nectar, I will bet you anything it wont work,lol...

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Oh, I didn't understand when you said sugar that you didn't mean any sweetner. I have never made regular ice cream.

ahhh, yeah, with normal recipes the sugar helps keep it from hardening up to fast, thats why sugar free recipes are really good for adapting to raw Ive found, as they are already formulated to work without refined sugar (sorry I shoulda probably defined it as refined sugar from the beginning) but it seems you've found a really good sounding recipe for raw ice cream that already has all the work taken out of figuring out how to adapt it let me know how it turns out if you try it, cause it sounds wonderful! (although that sounds like ALLOT of clove...) another yummy variant could be banana instead of coconut meat, 1/2 tsp clove, and 1 tsp cinnamon... and maybe like half a teaspoon of vanilla extract...mmmmm.... dang I want an ice cream machine now,lol.

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You know, you're right about the clove. That sounds like it's a mistake or something. When I have made desserts, it's usually only a half a tsp. tops. By the way, the other ingredients make up the base recipe (although in some icecreams she includes a few vanilla beans) so you can add your fruits or whatever to change the flavor. I don't know when I am getting an ice cream maker so I can't report on it right away but I'd love for someone to try it if possible.

I know when I'm getting one 'cause I ordered that refurbished unit on Amazon . It should be here soon, I'll try out some recipes after the holidays and let you know how it goes.

sweet! yay does it come with full warranty?

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Ice cream maker has arrived! Will put it under the tree tomorrow and see how the kids like it. I'll check out the warranty situation then. I can't wait to make sorbet, gotta break out the single gear juicer and cream some coconut while I'm at it. Oh man, I'm so excited!

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, let me know how it turns out!

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Check it out!

Pumpkin Pie Ice Cream
By Heathy/Fairygirl

1 cup carrot juice*
½ cup packed young coconut pulp
½ cup cashews
¼ cup maple syrup
¼ cup agave
1 ¼ tsp pumpkin pie spice
½ cup chopped pecans, mixed in at the end.

Blend all but the pecans together until smooth and creamy.

Chill in the fridge and then run through an ice cream maker

OR freeze in an ice cube tray and then blend until smooth and frosty.

* Heathy's Note: I like it with all carrot juice, but if you find it too "carroty", use 3/4 c juice and 1/4 cup water.


scroll down this page for original recipe
[thesunnyrawkitchen.blogspot.com]

that sounds delicious!!!

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Those sound great. Thanks for posting. Anyone try one without the cashews?