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LUPUS question
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: March 03, 2009 05:03PM

Hi everyone
I would like to know if anyone as cured lupus with a raw food diet?
I have lupus and am on the rawfood path since 1 month.

Thanks

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Re: LUPUS question
Posted by: kwan ()
Date: March 03, 2009 10:32PM

Hi Sproutlover,
Do you have the kind of lupus where you have to stay out of the sun, or the other kind where your immune system attacks your internal organs?

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Re: LUPUS question
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: March 04, 2009 12:31AM

Hi kwan

I have what they call undifferentiated lupus. Means they cannot tell me exactly which kind it is...And also FM since 26 years. I have tried all the herbs and natural therapies possible. And after being on cortisone and plaquenil for 3 months with not much results and lots of side effects, I decided that I was not going to create more physical problems for myself.

So here I am on the raw food way of life.: )
I also grow my sprouts and weatgrass.
I love this forum, lots of interesting info!



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Re: LUPUS question
Posted by: Omega ()
Date: March 06, 2009 01:56AM

Hi Sproutlover,

Dr. Max Gerson healed lupus vulgaris with a saltless raw food diet.

I recommend the following excerpt from the autobiography of Dr. Ferdinand Sauerbruch.

From [gerson-research.org]:

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From Master Surgeon
{excerpt)

"I was sitting in a train traveling from Munich to Davos, where I had once again been invited. It had been an exhausting day and I tried to sleep, but in vain. I had probably drunk too much coffee. Grimly I leaned back and tried to read the medical journals I had with me. After we had crossed into Switzerland, another traveler got into my compartment. The man seemed bored, and it was plain that he was looking for a chance to open conversation. He irritated me by shuffling his feet, twitching his legs, fidgeting with his clothes, and by his general restlessness. Before long, he made his opening move.

"Are you going to Davos, too?"

"Yes," I growled.

After a very short silence, he tried again. "Are you a patient?"

"No."

He peered across to try and read the titles of the periodicals which I had thrown down beside me on the seat.

"So you are a doctor going to Davos?"

"No, I am not."

"Thank God for that. Doctors are fools. All but one."

We rattled on through the night. I was desperately tired. I could not read, my eyes were aching, yet in spite of myself I was curious concerning this exception. It was not difficult to set him off again. As I stared at him, he asked, "What can you see on my face?"

"Burns," I suggested.

"Burns!" he cried. "These aren't burns. They are the scars of skin tuberculosis, and I was cured of it by this doctor."

"What!" I exclaimed, though with some restraint. Skin tuberculosis, lupus, an unsightly disease for which there was no known cure. I decided that my fellow traveler was just bragging. "There's no cure for lupus."

"There used to be no cure," he replied. "But one has been found. I have been cured."

Before he realized what was happening, I was unfastening his jacket and shirt, for we were alone in the compartment and some distance from the next station. And on his chest I saw large areas of perfectly healed lupus. I asked him to tell me his story. From his accent, I judged him to be Russian.

The disease, he said, had developed in his home country; he had gone from doctor to doctor. Being well-to-do, he had been able to afford treatment abroad and had visited various German hospitals in vain. Feeling more and more like a medieval leper, he had been on the brink of suicide, when he was told that there was a doctor named Gerson in Bielefeld who claimed to be able to cure lupus. He decided to go to him. Why not? The effects of the disease on his face were such that he would soon be forced to retire from the world. People shrank from him, and few hotels would admit him.

As soon as Dr. Gerson saw him, he exclaimed, "Ha! Lupus, lupus vulgaris.

"Can you help me?"

"Of course I can help you." And he did. I asked him how he had done so.

"By diet."

In the whole range of medical literature, there was no reference to the treatment of lupus by diet.

"When I was cured," he continued, "I went to all the famous doctors who had told me there was no cure, and they all laughed at me. Doctors!"

"Did you ever go to Sauerbruch?" I asked.

"It wouldn't have been any use. He's in Munich, and anyway, he always quarrels with everybody, shouts and bellows at them. He wouldn't listen."

I told him that I knew Sauerbruch and that I could guarantee that Sauerbruch would see him. And then he told me why he was going to Switzerland. He was hoping to acquire a building for the treatment of lupus patients free of charge. It was to be a gesture of gratitude for his release from this dreaded scourge. But he knew that he would need the support of some prominent man, for Dr. Gerson's name was practically unknown.

"Do not forget to call on Sauerbruch," were my parting words to him. "I shall see that you are received by him."

About a fortnight later, the Russian was shown into my office, accompanied by a modest man with a highly intelligent face. Dr. Gerson himself, I guessed.

"So you were Sauerbruch yourself!"

Gerson declared that he had cured a number of patients by excluding salt from their diet entirely. My Russian visitor was one of them. And of his cure there could be no doubt, however amazing his claim might seem. I could see no apparent connection between treatment and cure, but that did not prevent me from beginning a series of experiments immediately.

I put my assistant, Dr. Herrmannsdorfer, in charge of a wing of the clinic which was fitted up as a lupus station. The patients were to be fed in accordance with Dr. Gerson's diet.

Lupus patients were found. We securely barred doors and windows to prevent escape. A person who, over a long period, is given food with no salt at all suffers from his situation.

Dr. Gerson returned to his practice and I promised to keep him informed of our progress. Results were catastrophic. We kept the patients locked up for weeks. Not a grain of salt went into their food, but there was no trace of improvement. On the contrary, in each case the disease advanced according to rule. Dr. Herrmannsdorfer and I were at a loss, thinking of the Russian who had been cured and of humble Dr. Gerson in whom we had put complete faith.

We felt we must drop the experiment. Sadly I wrote to Dr. Gerson, telling him of the failure of the experiment and our decision to close the lupus ward. I dictated that letter in the morning. That afternoon, a sister called me to an emergency case: a patient had a severe postoperative hemorrhage. I hastened along corridors and downstairs and did what was necessary. Pensively I was strolling back along the corridor near the lupus ward, when I saw a nurse, the fattest nurse in the building, carrying an enormous tray loaded with sausages, bowls of cream, and jugs of beer. It was four o'clock in the afternoon, hardly the time for such a feast in a hospital. In amazement, I stopped and asked her where on earth she was going with all that food. And then the whole story came out.

"I couldn't bear it any longer, Herr Geheimrat," she explained. "Those poor patients with skin T.B. The stuff they are given –– no one could eat it."

She was astonished when I dashed her tray to the ground. It was one of the occasions when I completely lost my temper. Every day, at four o'clock when no one was around, she had been taking the patients a nice, appetizing, well-seasoned meal.

I sent off a telegram to Dr. Gerson, asking him not to open the letter I had written him. We were back at the beginning again, and from that moment we took extra precautions in guarding the lupus wing. In comparison, a prison would have been a holiday camp. Soon, Dr. Gerson was proved right. Nearly all our patients recovered; their sores almost disappeared under our very eyes. In this experiment involving 450 patients, only four could not be cured by Dr. Gerson's saltless diet."



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Re: LUPUS question
Posted by: kwan ()
Date: March 06, 2009 04:17AM

That's wonderful! I am so glad to know there's a way to cure lupus, even with raw food. Having watched my neighbor-- who was my age-- die before she reached 30 from lupus, with horrible side effects from prednizone, I will make sure to share this information with anyone I meet who has lupus in the future.


Thanks, Omega.

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Re: LUPUS question
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: March 06, 2009 09:18PM

HI Omega and Kwan

Interesting story indeed!
Thank you Omega for it.

I am so desperate to cure myself, I am checking out everything that seems promising.

Since I am on the raw food diet (1 month) I had no food cravings except since yesterday for...OLIVES. Lots of salt in that for sure.

I also ordered the "Lupus recovery diet" book by Jill Harrington. She claims that she had lupus and cured herself with a special diet. I think its mostly raw
with brown rice and steamed veggies. Since I have not received the book yet I am not sure.

Thank you again Omega for this amazing story!

Sorry for my English - I am French speaking...

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Re: LUPUS question
Posted by: HealthNVitality ()
Date: March 07, 2009 03:18PM

Good luck, sproutlover.
Your English looks good to me.
If you need to express yourself in French, maybe we can help.
At healthnvitality.com, on parle francais.
We also speak several other languages.
It sounds to me like you are on the right track, but feel free to ask if you need something.

If you post a reply to this message and would like my feedback, it would be best to send me a private message to that effect. Otherwise, I may not check this thread for a while.

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Re: LUPUS question
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: March 07, 2009 05:49PM

Thank you HealthNVitality!

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Re: LUPUS question
Posted by: HealthNVitality ()
Date: March 08, 2009 11:05PM

You're welcome, and rock on!

If you post a reply to this message and would like my feedback, it would be best to send me a private message to that effect. Otherwise, I may not check this thread for a while.

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Re: LUPUS question
Posted by: happyhouse ()
Date: May 24, 2009 10:27AM

Hello

I am not that familiar with Lupus per see, but understand it to be driven by inflammation, and is a rather a conglomeration of a number of different pathologies grouped together.

I do know that the compound chlorine dioxide, delivered in Jim Humble's Miracle Mineral Supplement has been proven to be very effective against Lupus, with real life testimonials from people with Lupus who have used MMS being found at [www.mmshealthyforlife.com]

If interested, I have purchased the product from the site [www.mmshealthy4life.com] to be highly reputable...

Hope this helps...

Kind regards...

Adam

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