Superjuice Wrote:
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> Besides all of this, I would not doubt that silver
> is effective against Ebola, it is a very strong
> product, will kill yeast and other viruses for
> sure. I can't give you any studies on it but I'm
> sure they are out there in very small quantities
> due to the threat they pose to the FDA's buddies,
> Big Pharma.

To me ingesting nanotech products is more of a crapshoot than eating GMO foods. We know that they can circumvent all of the bodies' protection and go anywhere they want. I am especially leery of ingesting conductive nano metals. There are way to many unknowns to mess with them, IMO.

Govt. Researchers: Flu Shots Not Effective in Elderly, After All
An important and definitive “mainstream” government study done nearly a decade ago got little attention because the science came down on the wrong side. It found that after decades and billions of dollars spent promoting flu shots for the elderly, the mass vaccination program did not result in saving lives. In fact, the death rate among the elderly increased substantially.

Prana Wrote:
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> Govt. Researchers: Flu Shots Not Effective in
> Elderly, After All
> An important and definitive “mainstream”
> government study done nearly a decade ago got
> little attention because the science came down on
> the wrong side. It found that after decades and
> billions of dollars spent promoting flu shots for
> the elderly, the mass vaccination program did not
> result in saving lives. In fact, the death rate
> among the elderly increased substantially.

Plus the flu shots in the elderly accelerates cognitive problems.

SueZ Wrote:
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> The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Oh...another lie she tells us is that the
> public
> > water supply is filled with big pharma drugs.
> This
> > is not true, and l know this because l did my
> > research on this. The water authorities put
> > oxidising agents in the water such as chlorine
> > because it is chemically known to break down
> drugs
> > to a neutral state (it's a chemistry rule
> > apparently).
>
> There ARE a plethora of drugs in our water
> systems. The waste water treatment plants cannot
> handle the load. There has been no system yet
> invented that can.


My understanding is that `granular activated carbon'processes can remove the pollutants, but it is far too costly to be of practical use for public water supplies.

Human Pharmaceuticals in Wastewater Treatment Processes

O. A. H. JONES, N. VOULVOULIS et al
[www.researchgate.net]

None-the-less,lwas not correct in saying that all drugs are removed from water supplies, and these fat reports in my files tell us so.


There are oxidising agents such as hypochlorite, potassium permanganate, potassium ferrate, persulfate and hydrogen peroxide activated with ferrous oxide, but even these agents are not able to totally remove all pollutants according to testing done so far, but some have been shown to remove about 90%. The more oxidative agents that are used the better it is, but the problem is that we don't know if it can completely remove everything because high levels of oxidative agents haven't been tested.


Removal of Ciprofloxacin from Water with Chemical Oxidation

Lauren Hannmann, Kyle Powers et al
[www.wpi.edu]


The other potential problem is that the oxidisation effectiveness seems to be related to the Ph of the water:

[www.honeywellprocess.com]

www.thesproutarian.com

suncloud Wrote:
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> Superjuice Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Besides all of this, I would not doubt that
> silver
> > is effective against Ebola, it is a very strong
> > product, will kill yeast and other viruses for
> > sure. I can't give you any studies on it but
> I'm
> > sure they are out there in very small
> quantities
> > due to the threat they pose to the FDA's
> buddies,
> > Big Pharma.
>
>
> Good point Superjuice. It's important to not lose
> sight of the possibility that a natural Ebola cure
> may exist.
>
> I think as of right now, if I had Ebola, I would
> go with elderberry extract and lots of water -
> plus whatever healthy food I could keep down
> comfortably.


Thanks suncloud, I have not had time to look this up, but I'm quite sure that this is very effective as Brian Clement has told me, and in his video's,to use this when contracting the flu.

SueZ Wrote:
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> The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Oh...another lie she tells us is that the
> public
> > water supply is filled with big pharma drugs.
> This
> > is not true, and l know this because l did my
> > research on this. The water authorities put
> > oxidising agents in the water such as chlorine
> > because it is chemically known to break down
> drugs
> > to a neutral state (it's a chemistry rule
> > apparently).
>
> There ARE a plethora of drugs in our water
> systems. The waste water treatment plants cannot
> handle the load. There has been no system yet
> invented that can.


Yes this is fact, thanks SueZ. But there are filters that take this out, it's just not used large scale-it wouldn't be feasible. Distillers will also do this, as well as take any other contaminant out.

Echinacea, medicinal mushrooms (particularly chaga & reishi), royal jelly, high-doses of vitamin C (such as camu camu) & D3, lots of probiotics, garlic and astragalus are all potent immune system boosters.



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SueZ Wrote:
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> Superjuice Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Besides all of this, I would not doubt that
> silver
> > is effective against Ebola, it is a very strong
> > product, will kill yeast and other viruses for
> > sure. I can't give you any studies on it but
> I'm
> > sure they are out there in very small
> quantities
> > due to the threat they pose to the FDA's
> buddies,
> > Big Pharma.
>
> To me ingesting nanotech products is more of a
> crapshoot than eating GMO foods. We know that they
> can circumvent all of the bodies' protection and
> go anywhere they want. I am especially leery of
> ingesting conductive nano metals. There are way to
> many unknowns to mess with them, IMO.

If Brian Clement endorses it I believe it is safe. It's been used for hundreds if not thousands of years, better than a vaccine IMO. I would not doubt a stay at HHI and using all kinds of natural therapy would do the trick. Raw garlic, Osha, Sovereign Silver, Turmeric, Therapeutic mushrooms and all other kinds of immune stimulating tools.

Here is a good article: [www.hydrosolinfo.com]

Here is a quote from another site: " They protect from any kind of infection from deadly viruses, fungi or even bacteria."

[www.naturalnews.com]

Superjuice Wrote:
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> Here is a good article:
> [www.hydrosolinfo.com]
> lver.php
>
> Here is a quote from another site: " They protect
> from any kind of infection from deadly viruses,
> fungi or even bacteria."
>
> [www.naturalnews.com]
> _antibiotics_alternative_medicine.html


"Only oral ingestion poses a threat to gut bacteria. Small oral doses may get into the bloodstream before damaging gut bacteria. But some silver product providers do advise taking a probiotic or potent kefir beverage hours after orally ingesting silver solutions."

See, this is the kind of thing I don't want to risk messing with. It's taken me a long time to get my gut bacteria to where it functions properly without having to resort to ferments, digestive enzymes, and probiotics.

The topical use of silver I would be OK with -so long as the nanotech silver was guaranteed to stay on the substrate without shedding which probably nobody is going to guarantee.

The only nano sized products I take for health are naturally occurring cleaned clays.

Some natural foods like turmeric would be tricky for someone who had Ebola because of the blood thinning aspect. At various stages in the illness blood tends to clot way too readily but at other stages the blood runs too thin when there isn't enough clotting factor left.



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SueZ, where did that one quote come from?

I would still take this over a pharmaceutical regardless of what it does to gut bacteria. Gut bacteria can be fixed easily but the effects of a pharmaceutical could last a lifetime. There are many natural foodstuff that damage gut bacteria it's not a big deal if you health is good, but if not then would be more difficult. Remember proper digestion is VERY important to gut flora and is the biggest problem among people that are already eating healthy IMO. There are many factors that get a person to a point that their gut flora is not good and won't stay stable, mostly what we have been ingesting for many years. Again, proper digestion will make it easy to keep that flora good, and perhaps with a small amount of a probiotic supplement, remember the best are HSO's.

Superjuice Wrote:
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> SueZ, where did that one quote come from?

The quote came from the very link you provided. I didn't mention the source as I thought you must have read your link.


> I would still take this over a pharmaceutical
> regardless of what it does to gut bacteria.

Go for it if you want to. I'll stay away from both.


Gut
> bacteria can be fixed easily

Not in my experience.

but the effects of a
> pharmaceutical could last a lifetime.


That is a small part of why gut bacteria can't be fixed easily.


There are
> many natural foodstuff that damage gut bacteria
> it's not a big deal if you health is good, but if
> not then would be more difficult.

What does this mean to you, in practical terms of application?


Remember proper
> digestion is VERY important to gut flora and is
> the biggest problem among people that are already
> eating healthy IMO.

And silver will help this how?

There are many factors that
> get a person to a point that their gut flora is
> not good and won't stay stable, mostly what we
> have been ingesting for many years. Again, proper
> digestion will make it easy to keep that flora
> good, and perhaps with a small amount of a
> probiotic supplement, remember the best are HSO's.

I don't understand why you are trying to remind me of these basics. What I'm saying is once the basic problems are solved probiotics are no longer needed for good digestion, etc. If someone you like endorses it and that is good enough for you I'm OK with that. I hope you are OK with that it isn't good enough for me and I disagree for the reasons I have stated.

Prana I seen her talk live, she hooked up with the guy they wrote about in the movie MEN WHO STARE AT GOATS and they were all over each other making out. buying organic fried eggs together and holding hands at this event I was at.

I remember she coined the term "useless eaters" in her videos. Or she was quoting this elite client of hers.

Its no secret about world depopulation. Even Durianrider has a strong view on it, why he says he got a vasectomy. Ask anyone around you and you will find that some people think we actually are overpopulating and we must be killed off. People believe this, I see on internet comments. So its no big secret how people feel, how anti- man they are. How the world leaders sit around and have these talks with each other. Spiritual suicide, power corrupts etc...genocide only inevitable.

But like I said before, everything is about free will. Has to be, its the laws of the universe. So the people doing the harm to themselves, have chosen it. On some level. We choose our destinies. I know that is hard to say, when we have holocausts, etc..but what we focus on we create, and that includes our fear. Its time to stop being scared and brave and courageous for the times ahead.

Just remember science 100 years ago, bloodletting, leeches, blood transfusions with monkeys...the belief that there are four humours or invisible gasses that cause all disease...this was medical science. And today its just as freaking out there. There has always been the same disease with a billion names..

Its like living in a Rod Serling creation, where everyone is crazy, everyone is freaking out over boogeymen. Noone knows what is happening...and you are just caught up in it..like in the movie THEY LIVE..where only you can see with the sunglasses.







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