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The New Religion: Will This 'Holy Grail' Really Wipe Out All Causes of Sickness and Death?
Posted by: John Rose ()
Date: November 13, 2014 03:44PM

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Vaccination: Defending Your Right to Know and Freedom to Choose
November 13, 2014

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Discussion about freedom to choose how we want to maintain our physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual health is one of the most important public conversations of our time
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At stake in this debate is: who will control the multi-trillion dollar US health care system?
If people have the right to know and freedom to choose how to heal and stay healthy, they may opt to spend their money on something other than what they’re told to spend their money on now

Following is an excerpt from a keynote presentation given by Barbara Loe Fisher at the 2014 US Health Freedom Congress in Minneapolis, Minnesota. View the video of her full 75 minute presentation here or on NVIC.org.

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Re: The New Religion: Will This 'Holy Grail' Really Wipe Out All Causes of Sickness and Death?
Posted by: Panchito ()
Date: November 13, 2014 07:05PM

vaccines are part of a complex system psychology with social influences. They are part of a belief system that stems from admiration and hope for the results derived from the space achievements. The label science is used for many different disciplines as mechanical and chemical. The space race created an admiration towards science that was introduced as school material. This in turn pushed new students to think about the possible applications of science before the existance of applications. This created "new" discoveries that needed to be sold to the public as their justification. Once the selling part was introduced, oportunistic businesses used the ignorance of the public for their gain. People were made to think they needed them by bombarding them with adds or using fear campaings. New dissease were "discovered" to be used as business growth models. The quick gains offered by the stock market demanded this type of business models based on disseases, which fedback into schools with new scientific job demands. The complex social phychology offered exploitations upon which businesses could grow from and create a capitalistic prophecy based on the parable of the broken window. The social reality ios based on profits not on truths.

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Re: The New Religion: Will This 'Holy Grail' Really Wipe Out All Causes of Sickness and Death?
Posted by: John Rose ()
Date: November 16, 2014 03:58PM

Hey Panchito,

You bring up several good points.

The first one has to do with “possible applications of science”! Indeed, this is what’s getting us in trouble - it’s the Bad Applications to things that we master!!!

The second point has to do with Economics and that’s where Adam Smith, the Father of Modern Economics, helps us understand what’s going on.

Here are 2 Audio Tapes where I talk about Adam Smith - the first one is over 2 years old and the second one is less than 2 weeks old, but first, here’s a small snippet from my File Preview in my file on Adam Smith and his book, “Wealth of Nations”:

• [259] The whole annual produce of the land and labour of every country, or what comes to the same thing, the whole price of that annual produce, naturally divides itself, it has already been observed, into three parts; the rent of land, the wages of labour, and the profits of stock; and constitutes a revenue to three different orders of people; to those who live by rent, to those who live by wages, and to those who live by profit. These are the three great, original, and constituent orders of every civilised society, from whose revenue that of every other order is ultimately derived.
• [260] The interest of the first of those three great orders, it appears from what has been just now said, is strictly and inseparably connected with the general interest of the society. Whatever either promotes or obstructs the one, necessarily promotes or obstructs the other. When the public deliberates concerning any regulation of commerce or police, the proprietors of land never can mislead it, with a view to promote the interest of their own particular order; at least, if they have any tolerable knowledge of that interest. They are, indeed, too often defective in this tolerable knowledge. They are the only one of the three orders whose revenue costs them neither labour nor care, but comes to them, as it were, of its own accord, and independent of any plan or project of their own. That indolence, which is the natural effect of the ease and security of their situation, renders them too often, not only ignorant, but incapable of that application of mind which is necessary in order to foresee and understand the consequences of any public regulation.
• [261] The interest of the second order, that of those who live by wages, is as strictly connected with the interest of the society as that of the first. The wages of the labourer, it has already been shown, are never so high as when the demand for labour is continually rising, or when the quantity employed is every year increasing considerably. When this real wealth of the society becomes stationary, his wages are soon reduced to what is barely enough to enable him to bring up a family, or to continue the race of labourers. When the society declines, they fall even below this. The order of proprietors may, perhaps, gain more by the prosperity of the society than that of labourers: but there is no order that suffers so cruelly from its decline. But though the interest of the labourer is strictly connected with that of the society, he is incapable either of comprehending that interest or of understanding its connection with his own. His condition leaves him no time to receive the necessary information, and his education and habits are commonly such as to render him unfit to judge even though he was fully informed. In the public deliberations, therefore, his voice is little heard and less regarded, except upon some particular occasions, when his clamour is animated, set on and supported by his employers, not for his, but their own particular purposes.
• [262] His employers constitute the third order, that of those who live by profit. It is the stock that is employed for the sake of profit which puts into motion the greater part of the useful labour of every society. The plans and projects of the employers of stock regulate and direct all the most important operations of labour, and profit is the end proposed by all those plans and projects. But the rate of profit does not, like rent and wages, rise with the prosperity and fall with the declension of the society. On the contrary, it is naturally low in rich and high in poor countries, and it is always highest in the countries which are going fastest to ruin. The interest of this third order, therefore, has not the same connection with the general interest of the society as that of the other two. Merchants and master manufacturers are, in this order, the two classes of people who commonly employ the largest capitals, and who by their wealth draw to themselves the greatest share of the public consideration. As during their whole lives they are engaged in plans and projects, they have frequently more acuteness of understanding than the greater part of country gentlemen. As their thoughts, however, are commonly exercised rather about the interest of their own particular branch of business, than about that of the society, their judgment, even when given with the greatest candour (which it has not been upon every occasion) is much more to be depended upon with regard to the former of those two objects than with regard to the latter. Their superiority over the country gentleman is not so much in their knowledge of the public interest, as in their having a better knowledge of their own interest than he has of his. It is by this superior knowledge of their own interest that they have frequently imposed upon his generosity, and persuaded him to give up both his own interest and that of the public, from a very simple but honest conviction that their interest, and not his, was the interest of the public. The interest of the dealers, however, in any particular branch of trade or manufactures, is always in some respects different from, and even opposite to, that of the public. To widen the market and to narrow the competition, is always the interest of the dealers. To widen the market may frequently be agreeable enough to the interest of the public; but to narrow the competition must always be against it, and can serve only to enable the dealers, by raising their profits above what they naturally would be, to levy, for their own benefit, an absurd tax upon the rest of their fellow-citizens. The proposal of any new law or regulation of commerce which comes from this order ought always to be listened to with great precaution, and ought never to be adopted till after having been long and carefully examined, not only with the most scrupulous, but with the most suspicious attention. It comes from an order of men whose interest is never exactly the same with that of the public, who have generally an interest to deceive and even to oppress the public, and who accordingly have, upon many occasions, both deceived and oppressed it.

Now here are those 2 Audio Tapes:

Audio Tape #1…

Per Audio Tape JR# E-59 - 26:50 made 6-06-12:

What’s the best way to Hide a Chemical?

Attach it to a Piece of DNA and call it a Virus.

If you want to use Chemicals to Control people and to Kill people and to Cull the Masses, the best way to Hide it is attach it to a Piece of DNA and call it a Virus, especially a Live Virus - that will Scare them. And then, put that in a Vaccine and then, Scare everybody into thinking they need the Vaccine.

9:57 MM
In other words, the Contagion Myth is going to Kill the Masses or the Contagion Myth is going to Cull the Masses [or] our Belief that Diseases are Contagious will make us take the Vaccine that has the Chemical in it that they are lying to us and saying it’s really a Virus so that it perpetuates the Belief that there’s something Contagious. Stop calling the Chemical a Virus and call it what it is - they’re putting Chemicals in those Vaccines. Nothing is Contagious. You don’t have to worry about Viruses, unless your Body is Not Functioning Properly and can’t get rid of its own Dead Cellular Debris, which is what most Viruses are.

Now the word Virus is a broad term that can be applied to any Poison. So technically, you could call a Chemical a Virus in that respect. But it’s not the way most people think of the word Virus. Most people are Brainwashed and Conditioned to think of the Virus as Causing the Flu or the Cold or AIDS or Herpes or Hepatitis C. There are No Viruses that are Causing any problems, unless we have too much Cellular Damage. And you can call that a Virus if you want, but call it what it really is - just Dead Genetic Debris. And the Solution is Not to Kill Dead Genetic Debris - the Solution is to find out why do we have Cells Dying and why aren’t we Able to Clean Up the Mess.

People like Alex Jones contribute more to the Culling than they do the Awakening because he perpetuates the Belief that there are Live Cancer Viruses in the Vaccines. Oh, we’re warning you about how bad the Vaccines are and just like all of the other Anti-Vaccine Proponents are showing a Logical Fallacy in a Protocol that already has an Invalid Structure. The System the Protocol belongs to has an Invalid Structure and we should never go looking for Logical Fallacies in Systems or Protocols with Invalid Structures.

So the real Message people like Alex Jones should be saying and Barbara Loe Fisher is that the Vaccines have an Invalid Structure. It shouldn’t be used to begin with - don’t have any faith in them - they never worked for anything - forget that they got bad things in them - don’t focus on that - don’t worry about the Logical Fallacies, especially the Bogus Live Viruses that they put in it. But we do have to be aware that if you have been Vaccinated, that you’ve been Injected with Chemicals that have Nano-Technology that might be Capable of triggering certain things with other things - HAARP Frequencies.

There’s no telling how these Chemicals and Technology have been programed, but they’re Not Viruses - they’re Not something that’s Contagious that’s going to make us have a Need to be Vaccinated to begin with. It’s the Belief that there are Contagious Diseases that’s going to Kill us because that’s what’s going to get most of us to take the Vaccine that has the Ultimate Death Sentence where it’s not designed for a Slow-Kill as most of them are now. The True Culling will come with the Vaccine itself - it will Kill you and when people start dying, people are going to think, oh my God, it really is Contagious - we better get the Vaccine. And the more people who get the Vaccine the more people die.



The True Culling of our Species will be because of the Belief in Contagion. It doesn’t work - it’s the Condition on our Body that determines whether or not we have Heart Disease, Cancer, Diabetes or even the Swine Flu! A Healthy person doesn’t get Sick. There are No Viruses or Germs that are Attacking us. And as long as we Believe that there are these Invisible things Attacking us, we will Succumb to the Injection.

So come on Alex, you ought to know all of this, you ought to be Able to put all of this together - Bertrand Russell - Diet - Injections - Injunctions. The Injections are what’s going to get us. The Diet is going to make us Sick - make it look like things are Contagious. The Injections will make us Sicker and Broaden their Market. That’s why the Vaccines came into play. Go back to Adam Smith - those who Live by Profit Narrow their Competition and Widen their Market.

How do you Widen your Market if you’ve cornered the Sickness Industry?

You get the people who (think) are Healthy. The Key is that none of us are Healthy. All of us suffer from the most Common Disease known to Mankind since the Fall of Mankind and it’s the only Condition we should really focus on.

Normally, we should never look at an Effect if it’s Lifestyle Related. This one happens to be Lifestyle Related, but this is the most important Negative Effect we have that’s a Subsequent Cause that’s keeping us from solving our problems and that Subsequent Cause is an Abnormally Low Biophoton Level due to Destroying a Nutrient that Feeds our 6th Sense.

End of Audio Tape #1.

Audio Tape #2…

Per Audio Tape JR# C-24 - 23:18 made 11-07-14:

The Sin Nature does Not exist in man - it is created by man - it’s Not part of our Inherent Nature - it’s part of our Feedback System trying to Warn Us that we’re Sick and we don’t Treat the Symptom when we’re Sick - we Remove the Cause.

But that’s another one of our False Beliefs in our Belief System - that most of our Problems are Outside of our Control - that when you get Sick, you go to a Doctor - when you get Sick, it’s because of a Bacteria - the Contagion Myth. To Prevent a Disease, you take a Vaccine.

Go back to Adam Smith - you Widen your Market and you Narrow your Competition.

So when they first started to Widen their Market, they increased it by including Problems that are Within our Control and then, they Widen It further by including those who don’t have the Problems yet, which is where the Vaccines come into play and the Mammograms.

So the best way to Narrow the Competition is to Purchase Laws - give you a Monopoly. There’s Only One Way you can Monopolize an Industry that should Not exist and that is by Controlling people’s Belief System. You got to get them to believe in the Contagion Theory and the Vaccine Theory - those are HUGE!

So why are Vaccines a Scam?

It’s because it’s a way they Widen their Market. If you don’t understand why Vaccines are a Scam, then you don’t understand the business model behind the Medical System. You start a System to help people with Problems that are Outside of their Control, like Accidents and Acts of Nature or even Acts of War, Crime and Violence. If they get hurt, break a leg, we’ll fix them up. But then, you Widen your Market by including Problems that are Within our Control - Diseases that are Lifestyle Related. And then, to further our Market even more go for the people who aren’t Sick yet.

So you first start off by helping people with Problems that are Not 100% Within our Control, then include on that list Problems that are 100% Within our Control and then, on that list people who don’t have any Problems at all.

So the Vaccines, that’s how you get everybody and that will bring them into our Market.

How do we make everyone Sick?

We Widen the Market initially and go after people who are Healthy.

The only way to Rule a Planet is for everybody to be Sick, so you Attack the Healthy and you Attack the Sick. Or you start off by helping those who are Injured and then, you add to that those who are Sick and then, to that you add those who are Healthy.

Of course, you can’t have any Competition; otherwise, you will be exposed as a Con or a Scam or a Hoax.

So our False Belief in Vaccines keeps all of us Sick and our False Belief about Viruses keeps us from realizing that most of our Problems are Self-Inflicted.

End of Audio Tape #2.


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Re: The New Religion: Will This 'Holy Grail' Really Wipe Out All Causes of Sickness and Death?
Posted by: Panchito ()
Date: November 16, 2014 05:11PM

There are myths that run in society. One of them is the poison antidote. You can stop the poison by taking an antidote. The use of labels frames the situation. Thus, creativity and thought are tools that can be used to make money. Another one is the virus vaccine. Once you believe in the words, you believe in how things work. In reality, you are puncturing the skin and relesing chemicals that trigger a strong immune reaction. This has the effect of destroying a delicate homeostasis of complex body fluids that destabilizes many things. There are many things that we don't know but that the doctors pretend to know. They give you a false illusion of knowledge based on the promotion of their business culture. The hirerchy of knowledge is based on the assumption that their cultural temples, which are based on profit, are the highest order of truth. While in reality, they are the highest order of power which is derived from an economical advantage given by cultural beliefs. The most impresive and well kept buildings in a city are the hospitals. The highest monetary exchanges are in hospitals. By just walking and noticing, it can be seen that hospitals are the most succesful business entities cities. A while back they used to be the churches. It is now assumed that hospitals intitutions are a necessity for society. They do offer a true emergency purpose and a benefit in that respect. Their existance is justificable in the sense of emercies like accidents, etc. But their most profitable source of income comes from non emergency treatments. And those are the ones based on creativity and cultural beliefs. One of them being vaccines, which are part of the economical arsenal of big pharmaceutical companies. By carefully increasing a creative advertisement based on the belief of necessity, the profit grows. One has to learn that hospitals expect the growth of their business. In that respect, they need more treatments to sell. They need mmore surgeries to support the expensive institution and the expensive system which catters the interest of those seeking stable and large profits. The sytem is so big and powerful that is hard to frame in words as it represents a social means of living large. They expect big returns and they expect you to belief without questioning they price. If you question, they'll give to the trouble maker treatment. They give you a stack of special legal papers created to cancel your legal powers and which you have to sign before they treat you. If you question with a sense of inteligence, you are then treated like a crazy black duck that needs special papers. You are trouble and you are swimming against the belief they expect you to have or it won't work. By you acepting their legal papers (which are based also on creativity derived again from their beliefs) you are doomed and technically hopeless in presenting any case in your defense. They not only sell medicine but law framing. When you enter you are entering a complex law laberynth.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/16/2014 05:25PM by Panchito.

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Re: The New Religion: Will This 'Holy Grail' Really Wipe Out All Causes of Sickness and Death?
Posted by: John Rose ()
Date: November 16, 2014 07:22PM

Now let’s only take a look at the part of my Post that was highlighted in Red with as few words as possible.

Hey Panchito,

You bring up several good points.

The first one has to do with “possible applications of science”! Indeed, this is what’s getting us in trouble - it’s the Bad Applications to things that we master!!!

The second point has to do with Economics and that’s where Adam Smith, the Father of Modern Economics, helps us understand what’s going on.

Here are 2 Audio Tapes where I talk about Adam Smith - the first one is over 2 years old and the second one is less than 2 weeks old, but first, here’s a small snippet from my File Preview in my file on Adam Smith and his book, “Wealth of Nations”:

• [259] The whole annual produce of the land and labour of every country, or what comes to the same thing, the whole price of that annual produce, naturally divides itself, it has already been observed, into three parts; the rent of land, the wages of labour, and the profits of stock; and constitutes a revenue to three different orders of people; to those who live by rent, to those who live by wages, and to those who live by profit. These are the three great, original, and constituent orders of every civilised society, from whose revenue that of every other order is ultimately derived.
• [260] The interest of the first of those three great orders, it appears from what has been just now said, is strictly and inseparably connected with the general interest of the society.
• [261] The interest of the second order, that of those who live by wages, is as strictly connected with the interest of the society as that of the first.
• [262] His employers constitute the third order, that of those who live by profit. … The interest of this third order, therefore, has not the same connection with the general interest of the society as that of the other two.The interest of the dealers, however, in any particular branch of trade or manufactures, is always in some respects different from, and even opposite to, that of the public. To widen the market and to narrow the competition, is always the interest of the dealers. To widen the market may frequently be agreeable enough to the interest of the public; but to narrow the competition must always be against it,

Now here are those 2 Audio Tapes:

Audio Tape #1…

Per Audio Tape JR# E-59 - 26:50 made 6-06-12:


…Bertrand Russell - Diet - Injections - Injunctions. The Injections are what’s going to get us. The Diet is going to make us Sick - make it look like things are Contagious. The Injections will make us Sicker and Broaden their Market. That’s why the Vaccines came into play. Go back to Adam Smith - those who Live by Profit Narrow their Competition and Widen their Market.

How do you Widen your Market if you’ve cornered the Sickness Industry?

You get the people who (think) are Healthy. …

End of Audio Tape #1.

Audio Tape #2…

Per Audio Tape JR# C-24 - 23:18 made 11-07-14:

But that’s another one of our False Beliefs in our Belief System - that most of our Problems are Outside of our Control - that when you get Sick, you go to a Doctor - when you get Sick, it’s because of a Bacteria - the Contagion Myth. To Prevent a Disease, you take a Vaccine.

Go back to Adam Smith - you Widen your Market and you Narrow your Competition.

So when they first started to Widen their Market, they increased it by including Problems that are Within our Control and then, they Widen It further by including those who don’t have the Problems yet, which is where the Vaccines come into play and the Mammograms.

So the best way to Narrow the Competition is to Purchase Laws - give you a Monopoly. There’s Only One Way you can Monopolize an Industry that should Not exist and that is by Controlling people’s Belief System. You got to get them to believe in the Contagion Theory and the Vaccine Theory - those are HUGE!

So why are Vaccines a Scam?

It’s because it’s a way they Widen their Market. If you don’t understand why Vaccines are a Scam, then you don’t understand the business model behind the Medical System. You start a System to help people with Problems that are Outside of their Control, like Accidents and Acts of Nature or even Acts of War, Crime and Violence. If they get hurt, break a leg, we’ll fix them up. But then, you Widen your Market by including Problems that are Within our Control - Diseases that are Lifestyle Related. And then, to further our Market even more go for the people who aren’t Sick yet.

So you first start off by helping people with Problems that are Not 100% Within our Control, then include on that list Problems that are 100% Within our Control and then, on that list people who don’t have any Problems at all.

So the Vaccines, that’s how you get everybody and that will bring them into our Market.

How do we make everyone Sick?

We Widen the Market initially and go after people who are Healthy.

The only way to Rule a Planet is for everybody to be Sick, so you Attack the Healthy and you Attack the Sick. Or you start off by helping those who are Injured and then, you add to that those who are Sick and then, to that you add those who are Healthy.

Of course, you can’t have any Competition; otherwise, you will be exposed as a Con or a Scam or a Hoax.

So our False Belief in Vaccines keeps all of us Sick and our False Belief about Viruses keeps us from realizing that most of our Problems are Self-Inflicted.

End of Audio Tape #2.


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Re: The New Religion: Will This 'Holy Grail' Really Wipe Out All Causes of Sickness and Death?
Posted by: Panchito ()
Date: November 16, 2014 08:52PM

yeap. That's pretty much how the system runs. Also, the concept of soft control is related, which ties to the running belief system. Soft control is mass control by creating (notice the creativity part) artificial beliefs. The people sitting on top are artist, not scientists or engineers. The hold no truths only smoke. The scientist and the engineer are rewarded for their directed efforts. The artists move the beliefs of the scientist and engineers by a reward monetary system. You would think that the scientists are smarter since they studied so much. But they are confronted with the economical reality caused by the beliefs created by the artists. They are born inside the artist cloud of smoke. Thus, the cloud is run by the artificial (not natural) beliefs of the artists. The fastest growth was perhaps with the recent commercialization of radio waves (radio, tv) and its adoption. Those allowed for the easy penetration of beliefs not only by advertisements but more importantly by shows, news, etc., where people are showed what is supposed to be social normal reactions. With the birth of the internet, it is not that easy because it allows to easily bring down the castle of beliefs. The internet may work for adds but not so much for indoctrination.

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