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Fasting to heal
Posted by: suncloud ()
Date: November 25, 2014 12:13AM

IMO, fasting is a very effective healer. Currently, I'm fortunate to be able to take advantage of this, and I'm on my 2nd day of water fast.

Apparently, my bladder was injured. An operation is available for this, but it would require being down for at least 6 weeks. Can't do that. And whenever I eat, symptoms from the injury become worse.

So, I'm fasting. Thank you John Rose for allowing me to occupy so much of my time today in replying to one of your posts! Took my mind completely off of FOOD! smiling smiley

Hope to go for at least 7 days. We'll see. (Have done this a few times before, but not specifically for this reason!)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/25/2014 12:16AM by suncloud.

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Re: Fasting to heal
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: November 25, 2014 01:07AM

suncloud Wrote:
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> IMO, fasting is a very effective healer.
> Currently, I'm fortunate to be able to take
> advantage of this, and I'm on my 2nd day of water
> fast.
>
> Apparently, my bladder was injured. An operation
> is available for this, but it would require being
> down for at least 6 weeks. Can't do that. And
> whenever I eat, symptoms from the injury become
> worse.
>
> So, I'm fasting. Thank you John Rose for allowing
> me to occupy so much of my time today in replying
> to one of your posts! Took my mind completely off
> of FOOD! smiling smiley
>
> Hope to go for at least 7 days. We'll see. (Have
> done this a few times before, but not specifically
> for this reason!)

Darn. Best wishes and I hope your fast works.

Have you ever tried pumpkinseed oil for your bladder? I love the stuff. It's my all time favorite oil. It's also beautiful having the distinction of being dichroic. Green where it's a thin coating and deep red where it pools.

[www.vitacost.com]

[www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]



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Re: Fasting to heal
Posted by: suncloud ()
Date: November 25, 2014 01:28AM

Hey thanks SueZ! I'll definitely look into this.

I'm also thinking golden seal and seaweed (which Jethro Kloss calls "bladder wrack" ).

Fasting seems to really help, so I'll hopefully continue for a while at least.



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Re: Fasting to heal
Posted by: Panchito ()
Date: November 25, 2014 03:44AM

Hope it works out. I have a flashlight that I use on rare occasions that takes away the pain on local areas (from sports). It could also work on the bladder, but that is only an idea. It is way more expensive to try than a bottle of oil. But iff you have a pile of money to burn, you may want to check it out:

[www.amazon.com]

There are also foods that fight inflammation (related to pain) but you are in a fast.

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Re: Fasting to heal
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: November 25, 2014 04:10AM

suncloud Wrote:
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> Hey thanks SueZ! I'll definitely look into this.
>
>
> I'm also thinking golden seal and seaweed (which
> Jethro Kloss calls "bladder wrack" ).
>
> Fasting seems to really help, so I'll hopefully
> continue for a while at least.


I hope your fast is enough, too. According to the guy I get my seaweed from, Larch Hanson, kelp works as well as bladder wrack internally. I'm saving my bladder wrack in case I ever need it for a poultice. It does not taste good. At all.

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Re: Fasting to heal
Posted by: suncloud ()
Date: November 25, 2014 05:51AM

Thanks Panchito. Very sweet of you! Thank goodness, most of the time, I'm really not in any pain. It's just very uncomfortable after I eat. Water seems OK.

SueZ Wrote:
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>> I hope your fast is enough, too. According to the
> guy I get my seaweed from, Larch Hanson, kelp
> works as well as bladder wrack internally.

Oh. I thought bladder wrack was just any kind of seaweed. Yes, I hope the fast works!

>I'm
> saving my bladder wrack in case I ever need it for
> a poultice. It does not taste good. At all.

LOL! Thanks for the warning. I do have kelp, which I really like.

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Re: Fasting to heal
Posted by: suncloud ()
Date: November 25, 2014 06:59PM

Made it to the third day. Still just water. I feel good, but my energy is about at zero.

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Re: Fasting to heal
Posted by: jtprindl ()
Date: November 25, 2014 09:39PM

suncloud Wrote:
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> Made it to the third day. Still just water. I
> feel good, but my energy is about at zero.


Do juices give you any problems?

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Re: Fasting to heal
Posted by: suncloud ()
Date: November 25, 2014 10:08PM

jtprindl Wrote:
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> suncloud Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Made it to the third day. Still just water. I
> > feel good, but my energy is about at zero.
>
>
> Do juices give you any problems?

Absolutely. Too much for the bladder to handle right now.

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Re: Fasting to heal
Posted by: jtprindl ()
Date: November 25, 2014 10:48PM

suncloud Wrote:
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> jtprindl Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > suncloud Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Made it to the third day. Still just water.
> I
> > > feel good, but my energy is about at zero.
> >
> >
> > Do juices give you any problems?
>
> Absolutely. Too much for the bladder to handle
> right now.


What about coconut water? What kind of bladder issue do you have and do you know what caused it?



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Re: Fasting to heal
Posted by: Prana ()
Date: November 26, 2014 05:28AM

Good luck on you fast suncloud. What a gift you're giving yourself with this fast.


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Re: Fasting to heal
Posted by: suncloud ()
Date: November 26, 2014 08:07PM

Thank you so much Prana for your encouragement! Definitely needed that today. smiling smiley

I made it to day 4. (MIDPOINT to my target of 7 days!)

jtprindl, coconut water sounds absolutely wonderful on my first day of breaking this fast. Thanks!

I have something called a "cystocele".[www.mayoclinic.org]

It's a female thing. It became very evident suddenly, although it was probably a little bit there for a while without my knowing it. I believe it was caused by straining too much with weights over a period of several years.

After this happened, I quit the weights completely; but it still gets bad after eating. By fasting with water only, I'm hoping to make everything smaller and reverse the damage. Of course, I'll have to make some lifestyle changes too: Smaller, more frequent meals, and much easier on the weights.

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Re: Fasting to heal
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: November 27, 2014 01:15AM

Ouch, Suncloud. Weights got me, too, but with a small hernia. Fasting really helped a lot with that and I have no more pain from it. I'm going with more crunches and sit ups - before I eat. Silica, too.

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Re: Fasting to heal
Posted by: suncloud ()
Date: November 27, 2014 09:43PM

Oh SueZ, sorry to hear you had that hernia! I'm glad to know that fasting helped you, and you're no longer in pain. Right now, it seems to be helping me too, but I won't know for sure until I start eating again.

I hear you about exercising before eating. Or at least not on a full stomach (Guilty!). For upper body strength, I think I'll try to do more sun salutations instead of lifting weights. I'm pretty regular on yoga. And I'll try to walk a lot.

Day 5 on my fast! Yesterday I felt pretty awful, but I'm feeling much better today.

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Re: Fasting to heal
Posted by: jtprindl ()
Date: November 27, 2014 11:57PM

suncloud Wrote:
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> Oh SueZ, sorry to hear you had that hernia! I'm
> glad to know that fasting helped you, and you're
> no longer in pain. Right now, it seems to be
> helping me too, but I won't know for sure until I
> start eating again.
>
> I hear you about exercising before eating. Or at
> least not on a full stomach (Guilty!). For upper
> body strength, I think I'll try to do more sun
> salutations instead of lifting weights. I'm pretty
> regular on yoga. And I'll try to walk a lot.
>
> Day 5 on my fast! Yesterday I felt pretty awful,
> but I'm feeling much better today.


Have you lost any weight?

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Re: Fasting to heal
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: November 28, 2014 01:43AM

"Have you lost any weight?"

Lol, I hope you're kidding.

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Re: Fasting to heal
Posted by: jtprindl ()
Date: November 28, 2014 02:28AM

SueZ Wrote:
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> "Have you lost any weight?"
>
> Lol, I hope you're kidding.


Why's that?

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Re: Fasting to heal
Posted by: suncloud ()
Date: November 28, 2014 06:40PM

Typically, on a water fast, people tend to lose over a pound/day at the beginning and then taper down to about a pound/day. I'm small already, so I've lost close to a pound/day starting from the first day.

Well, day 6. I feel good today!

Yesterday afternoon was difficult because I had major backaches when lying down, and felt nauseous when sitting or standing up. The backaches finally went away after lying on my back on a flat surface. And today I feel good!

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Re: Fasting to heal
Posted by: suncloud ()
Date: November 29, 2014 08:40PM

Day 7. Last day!

Yesterday I felt very good all day, and I feel even better today. And tomorrow I will eat! Not much though I hope. My husband is in town today, and if there are coconuts at the farmers market, he will bring some home. I thought jtprindl's idea of coconut water was excellent, and it's about the only thing I can think of that I'd really like to have. Of course, it will be hard to resist the spoon meat, considering the coconuts will most likely be young.

I could go for papaya or mango.

And for sure, if there were any available, I'd love to have a biriba (aka rollinia deliciosa). I think the season just passed though a couple of weeks ago. To die for. Tastes like maybe a combination lemon meringue and cherry pie filling.


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Re: Fasting to heal
Posted by: Panchito ()
Date: November 29, 2014 09:23PM

glad to hear your propgress. Hope it worked for the better. That pic looks like a chirimoya (apple custard). They are one of my favorite fruits (expensive here).

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Re: Fasting to heal
Posted by: suncloud ()
Date: November 29, 2014 09:54PM

Good call Panchito! Cherimoya and biriba are in the same family - annona - a species that also includes atemoya and ilama. Apparently there are "approximately 166 species" of annona.

[en.wikipedia.org]

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Re: Fasting to heal
Posted by: suncloud ()
Date: November 30, 2014 09:08PM

Fast is over. I made it 7 days. Got my spoon meat coconuts - 15 of them! And even 3 biribas. Plus some rambutan and papayas. Tomorrow I'll shop for fresh greens.

Happy! I think the coconut water is perfect for my bladder, because it seems a little astringent. The bladder: so far, so good. And it's wonderful to be able to walk around without feeling like I'm about to fall over. smiling smiley

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Re: Fasting to heal
Posted by: Panchito ()
Date: November 30, 2014 10:48PM

Congrats!

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Re: Fasting to heal
Posted by: Prana ()
Date: December 01, 2014 11:11PM

smiling smiley


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Re: Fasting to heal
Posted by: suncloud ()
Date: December 02, 2014 07:31AM

Thanks Panchito and Prana!

Just in case someone else tries fasting to heal a cystocele: unfortunately, it didn't work. I wasn't aware there are two kinds - one from stretch (a mild case), the other caused when the supporting fascia is torn. Once the fascia tears, it pulls apart and support is lost. Apparently this is what I have.

Maybe fasting would heal the first kind.

I'm considering my next step, and I have an appointment with a specialist to discuss options.

But I don't regret the fast at all, and I'm glad I tried it. I probably really needed it anyway, and I do feel really good!

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Re: Fasting to heal
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: December 02, 2014 12:32PM

Suncloud, I'm betting that adding more silica, even topically, will help with more connective tissue nourishment. I've just ordered some silica in liquid form( which has been extracted from bamboo) to add to magnesium oil for testing. I'm glad you're feeling better and don't forget to stay very hydrated!

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Re: Fasting to heal
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: December 04, 2014 03:06AM

Hmmm. It seems crunches are not all they are cracked up to be and stomach vacuums are the way to go...

[www.youtube.com]

according to this guy...

[www.youtube.com]

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Re: Fasting to heal
Posted by: John Rose ()
Date: December 04, 2014 03:39AM

<<<It seems crunches are not all they are cracked up to be>>>

This guy was NOT talking about crunches - he was talking about situps.

When we do the traditional situp, we are mostly using the hip flexors because the abs have a very short range of motion, which is why we do crunches instead.

In other words, his explanation was right, but his terminology was wrong.

The most important abs we should work are the Transverse Abs. These muscles are wedged in between our pelvic girdle and they do not have a range of motion, so the only way to exercise them is isometrically. Isometric muscle contraction occurs when muscle shortening and joint movement does not occur. In other words, just suck in your abs as if you are trying to impress someone. Doing this will straighten your back, which gives us good posture. Most of us are lazy and don't do this, which accounts for so much lower back pain.


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Re: Fasting to heal
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: December 04, 2014 12:15PM

I found these tips helpful, too. (But disregard the accompanying photo.)


"How to Neutralize Your Hip Flexors During a Crunch"


[woman.thenest.com]

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