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Re: mucoid plaque...
Posted by: coconutcream ()
Date: April 23, 2007 06:17PM

all of that mucus could be a result of you having stuff up your butt, the way mucus comes out if anyone has ever done anal sex, unfinished of course..mucus just accumulates,on call, because it senses something is stuck or wrong up your butt..


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Re: mucoid plaque...
Posted by: greenie ()
Date: April 23, 2007 06:40PM

Pistachio,

If you read the reference links I provided, you'll see that these people claim laxatives, etc. will not remove the decades-old incrustation of hardened mucoid plaque. They claim there is a buildup 1/4"-1/2" thick that is hardened almost like enamel and state clearly that it cannot be removed by laxatives, let alone one dose of a laxative.

They say it must be removed by bulking agents like psyllium, herbs, and occasionally abrasive clays and other materials and laxatives; and that it takes weeks of using the products to soften the incrustation and remove the accumulation.

This notion of a hardened thick accumulation doesn't jive with the eye-ball experience of people who actually see the insides of colons. They don't see any such incrustation.

When I fast, I often pass mucus. I think that's either due to my innards being irritated by the juice or lemonade and/or being irritated by toxins being released, and producing mucus to repel the irritant or toxin. I've also done liver cleanses in which black stuff came out. My conclusion is that the body can expel all sorts of weird stuff that is not necessarily stored in the colon.

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Re: mucoid plaque...
Posted by: Pistachio ()
Date: April 23, 2007 09:48PM

Greenie:

I'm aware of the dramatic claims of old fecal material hanging around for years and weighing several pounds and that the products being touted are specially formulated to remove it, since ordinary laxativea and enemas supposedly can't.

On the other hand, I too have had the opportunity to observe colonoscopies and endoscopies (the tube or scope inserted from the mouth to see the upper gastrointestinal system). I've never seen seen old fecal material hanging around as far as the scope was advanced in the colon/small intestine. On the contrary, it was a beautiful pink from the throat down and from the colon up, except for any abnormal conditions that may have been found.

That doesn't mean that the body does not have stored waste and toxins that shouldn't have been hanging around. From personal experience, I have had fantastic results using herbal based cleanses. The point I was trying to make is that quoting someone who saw colonoscopies and surgeries and who said that there wasn't any of the 'gooey' stuff present as evidence that it does not exist
is of limited weight, because by the time they saw the intestinal mucosa, that patient drank laxative(s) to clear out waste before the procedure.

Though not practical nor realistic, the question would be to see what was harboring around before the chemical or herbal laxative was given.


Wishing you vibrant health


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Re: mucoid plaque...
Posted by: anaken ()
Date: April 24, 2007 02:54AM

greenie Wrote:
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> When I fast, I often pass mucus. I think that's
> either due to my innards being irritated by the
> juice or lemonade and/or being irritated by toxins
> being released, and producing mucus to repel the
> irritant or toxin. I've also done liver cleanses
> in which black stuff came out. My conclusion is
> that the body can expel all sorts of weird stuff
> that is not necessarily stored in the colon.

its a good concept, the body certainly creates mucus to deal with irritants.

but side-stepping that...where do the toxins go when they are expelled by your body?

They go to your colon of course.

my concept is that the body was never designed to deal with the type of toxins that exist from denatured foods, enviornmental toxins, and the biggy as far as fasting goes: stored toxins from vaccinations, pharmaceutical and recreational drugs and other ingested poisons, and of course the countless generations of such practices in our inheritance.

when your body attempts to reverse this process, given the chance it slowly over time poors these toxins into its natural outlet, the colon (sure some goes through the skin and urine) only to materialize as 'matter' that is 'heavy'.

when you get a colonic, which is just water going in the colon, not your entire body, dense black heavy mater can result. therefore it is lining the colon at that point, not the body.

so even though you or your friends inspection proves your concept (and yes I certainly agree that colons removed or observed in the process you described would be free of 'plaque' and think pistachio's point is still very much valid). my inspection of not consuming any irritants, of consuming only whole fruits, and tender greens, and having effortless bowel movements, equivalent to what I am eating (in my not so careful but casual observation), still POUR heavy dense black matter from my colon during a colonic.

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Re: mucoid plaque...
Posted by: rawnoggin ()
Date: July 05, 2007 09:16AM

I've been sort of tinkering with the idea of doing one of those colon cleanses (the price has put me off in the meanwhile!).

Just how much psyllium do you have to take in one day? I did a liver detox some years back, and was taking psyllium about 3 times a day and never passed anything like the pictures on those colon cleanse web sites! (In fact, everything was completely normal).

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Re: mucoid plaque...
Posted by: Prism ()
Date: July 05, 2007 06:33PM

Where is the waste matter stored in our colons at when you can't see it with those tests? If I have a normal bm, and do an enema I have more waste matter that passes, in fact quite a lot with the first enema. Don't you see that on those tests?

Somone said that when they did an autopsy on John Wayne he had something like 24 lbs of waste in his gut/colon.

Obese people have to have that old waste matter in them..the problem is the waste matter does not move as it should and it accumulates.

Love,
Prism

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Re: mucoid plaque...
Posted by: pihourova ()
Date: July 05, 2007 07:55PM

wow! 24 lbs. i gotta do an enema. where would i get one? i dont even know what one looks like. the pharmacist in my little rural irish town is young, hot and italian. can someone give me some info so i dont have to ask him where they are or what they look like? i am happily married but still! hes really hot. i cant ask him this.

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Re: mucoid plaque...
Posted by: Prism ()
Date: July 05, 2007 08:25PM

You can say you just want it for a hot water bottle..same thing. Or have hubby go in and ask for onesmiling smiley

You can order online websites like enemabag.com

You might try colon hydrotherapy..I did a series of 12 of them over a year ago. I liked doing them, they helped me to understand my body better and they weren't gross..they were very relaxing..she included foot, leg, and tummy massage. I loved the foot massage!

Love,
Prism

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Re: mucoid plaque...
Posted by: pihourova ()
Date: July 07, 2007 06:38AM

were there any concerns about cleaning the device? i mean, does the part that goes into your butt get cleaned after each person or do they use a new one for each person? and if you dont mind, how much does it cost?

thanks prism!

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Re: mucoid plaque...
Posted by: pihourova ()
Date: July 07, 2007 09:24AM

also, does anyone know if there are any guidelines or recommendations as to when is the best time to do an enema? for example, early morning vs. evening, or before your first meal of the day, after a meal, etc?

my hubby got me the enema today. any feed back is appreciated.

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Re: mucoid plaque...
Posted by: Prism ()
Date: July 07, 2007 09:39PM

Yes, you need to clean it, and if you like each person that uses could have their own tip. I used hot soapy water and bleach. It comes with instructions on how to clean it.

Mine cost about $12.00.

I don't know that there is a set time to do enemas, but you want to be relaxed, have time to do between 1-3 enemas in 1 session and maybe relax in a bath once you are done unless you only like showers.

There's lots of info on the Internet about enemas, what to mix in your water if anything, and emema implants, etc. Having some oil like coconut oil helps the tip to go in smoothly too.

Love,
Prism

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Re: mucoid plaque...
Posted by: pihourova ()
Date: July 08, 2007 09:03AM

well, i finally did it. wow. my colon feels clean. lol! i found so much conflicting info about the best time to do it. so i just decided to do it first thing in the morning. it felt like the best time for me. i did not know i could do up to 3 sessions. the directions said only 1 per day. but i did 2. so i could safely do 3? thanks.

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Re: mucoid plaque...
Posted by: aquadecoco ()
Date: July 08, 2007 08:20PM

Years ago I had a spastic colon and had a colonoscopy. The specialist had an intern that day. so they took lots of time to have a good gander up there. The specialist kept saying how unusually clean it was. She kept searching for something, and kept saying, with some surprise, how clean it was and how there were no polyps, etc.


So why would she say that if she normally encountered clean, pink mucous membrane!

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Re: mucoid plaque...
Posted by: Prism ()
Date: July 10, 2007 09:45PM

Don't you usually get high enemas before the procedure? Should be pretty clean in that case for most folks?

Love,
Prism

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Re: mucoid plaque...
Posted by: aquadecoco ()
Date: July 13, 2007 02:10PM

No. nothing like that. Prism.

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Re: mucoid plaque...
Posted by: Prism ()
Date: July 13, 2007 09:55PM

My mother had one done and she had to have a barium enema beforehand. Here's what I found on it.

[What bowel preparation is needed for colonoscopy?

If the procedure is to be complete and accurate, the colon must be completely clean. Patients are given detailed instructions about the cleansing of the colon procedure. In general this consists of a large volume of a special cleansing solution or several days of a clear liquid diet and laxatives or enemas prior to the examination. These instructions should be followed to the letter or the procedure may be unsatisfactory and have to be repeated later or a less accurate alternative chosen in its place.]

Love,
Prism

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Re: mucoid plaque...
Posted by: D'vorah ()
Date: July 16, 2007 02:21AM

Prism Wrote:
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> Somone said that when they did an autopsy on John
> Wayne he had something like 24 lbs of waste in his
> gut/colon.
>
>


To read about this, go to:

[www.snopes.com]

Deborah

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Re: mucoid plaque...
Posted by: Prism ()
Date: July 16, 2007 02:56AM

Oh, I see it's an urban myth..smiling smiley Sorry 'bout that!

Love,
Prism

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Re: mucoid plaque...
Posted by: anaken ()
Date: July 16, 2007 04:55PM

This article is pure "quack" duck @#$%&

[www.rawfoodsupport.com]

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