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17 years ago
longtimeraw
>as far as you saying that no one is qualified to give sachelle advice, My exact words: No one here can diagnose your condition online. No one here is qualified to diagnose anything. Diagnosis requires medical training. Don't see any MDs here, just self-appointed diet promoters. >Sleeping a lot is not a symptom or indication of OSA. Look in the mirror before calling someone else
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
No one here can diagnose your condition online. No one here is qualified to diagnose anything. Do some basic online research of the condition known as obstructive sleep apnea. I'm not suggesting that you have the condition, only suggesting that you look into it as a possibility. Definitely, you should see a real health professional if you think it is appropriate and especially if the symptoms
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
> I would say to do your best to avoid medical advice! It will cost you and kill you. >I say, Ignore the doctors. Ignoring the doctors here could lead to vision loss. The "diet doctors" here have little or no medical training, and are not qualified to give medical advice. In fact it is illegal for them to do so - practicing medicine without a license.
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
I'm not a fan of raw cacao, due to the possibility of dangerous bacteria, fungal toxins, heavy metal contamination, and nematode eggs or cysts. However, surprise: eating poison oak/ivy leaves (young leaves, in small quantities) is a folk medicine way to desensitize one to the toxins in poison oak/ivy. (Similar to the way modern-day allergists use extracts to treat allergies.)
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
The best advice: see a real doctor, an opthalmologist, and follow his or her advice. The wanna-be-diet-cure-doctors on this board are woefully unqualified to give medical advice. Best to ignore the fakes.
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
>longtimeraw, instead of making useless disparaging remarks, provide some substance. So far, I have not seen any in your posts. Give us a proof of some claim. Carl Sagan is credited with the wise statement: "Unusual claims require unusual proof." Your side of the discussion is the one making claims. I challenge the claims, as they are unusual or extraordinary. On the oth
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
Let the record reveal that Bryan's post cites no scientific references and is content-free. Just more natural hygiene religious mumbo-jumbo. Bryan's article has a list of question in it: >Any "test" for b12 deficiency MUST ADDRESS and RESOLVE the following important issues, among others: which only serve to highlight the amazing ignorance of the author of that text. Read the l
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
Most of the books on Bryan's list are full of natural hygiene nonsense. The only ones on his list that might be worth looking at, for historical reasons, are those of Tilden. I don't have a list for you. All, yes all the pro-raw books are unscientific and dubious. The various pro-raw "science" websites are even worse: ecologos.org (the barely coherent rantings and ravings of one Laur
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
>On that scale there is Water fastening. It is THE FASTEST, SAFEST and CHEAPEST way to rebuild our internal microflora. BEST in short Please provide some real scientific proof for this. Natural hygiene religious beliefs are unscientific and don't count. Water fasting starves the internal microflora and can disrupt the flora. Why is that good?
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
Deterioration of eyesight can have many causes, ranging from ordinary aging to a variety of ailments, with the ailments themselves ranging from minor to very serious. Your best bet is to see a real health professional - an optometrist or ophthalmologist. Don't waste any time with the natural hygiene diet-doctors. They are incompetent.
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
>All animals follow their biologically correct diet without having to do scientific research. So seagulls eating at the landfill, raccoons, possums and bears eating out of garbage cans -- that is their "biologically correct" diet? Or is your view a NH over-simplification? >Humans are those who defy their nature. The mountains of books and papers amount to hardly anything a
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
Zinc deficiency is associated with spaciness and unclear thinking. Zinc is usually problematic in 100% raw vegan diets (barring supplementation, which Storm says he doesn't do). Could it be that Storm is experiencing the mental spaciness of a zinc deficiency, and believing it to be a profound "spiritual experience"? B12 deficiency can manifest as damage to the central nervous sy
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
Comments on Storm's post: >One of the main inspirations for me was the work of Dr. Norman Walker who was also the longest lived raw vegan that I know of. Even though he had one cooked meal a day usually consisting of some form of rice dish; for me he is still a type of mentor, Typical raw misinformation. Walker was non-vegan, non-raw. But they use him as an example anyway. The NH types m
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
No, the course is pretty bad: outdated, full of pseudoscience, loaded with misinformation, and it encourages the "natural hygiene as religion" attitude that one finds among raw folks. Back when he was peddling the course, Fry made a number of claims about the course. Those are debunked in jack raso's book, "Mystical diets". Interesting reading. A place called Transforma
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
>Most of the people who get sick and die are either young children, the elderly, or the people who eat garbage. Just my two cents, I never worry about such things. Children, the elderly, the weak, sick, and infirm, and yes, even those who eat "garbage" (whether real or rhetorical) are all people, and they are all important. Whether they live or die is indeed worth "worrying a
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
>Ha! So where are all the raw fooders with E coli??? I eat raw cacao most days, I have friends who eat much more than me! Raw cacao is a specialty food, consumed by a few thousand people at most. Look at raw spinach & green onions, 2 raw plant foods recently contaminated by E Coli. It's not very common, but IT CAN HAPPEN.
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
>Don't eat poison oak/ivy! As food, yes: poison oak/ivy are not food. However, they can be eaten in small quantities as MEDICINE. When this is done, it can reduce a person's sensitivity to skin contact with poison oak/ivy. This is discussed in the books by Euell Gibbons. Let us note that one of the false pseudo-religious beliefs of fundamentalist natural hygiene is that there is no
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
I wonder if I should bother commenting on an "article" that seems like edited ad copy. However, I will point out a few things. Raw cacao beans are fermented. In the process, the heat can reach 50 degreees Centigrade or 127 degrees F, above the level where food is considered raw. The fermentation process also kills the cacao seed, so even if still legally raw, "raw cacao" is
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
DaVinci a fruitarian? Seems highly unlikely. Back in his times they had fewer kinds of fruits to eat (as fruit propagation is an ongoing science and fruits are spread by trade) than they do now. Back then, Europe had no American-origin plants: tomatoes, blueberries, papayas, pineapples, potatoes, corn. They did not have refrigerated fruit shipped in from Asia or Africa. Instead, fruit would be s
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
>What exactly does it mean "longtimeraw"? More than 20 years experimenting with a variety of predominantly raw diets, both vegan and non-vegan. As a result of this, I have a very low opinion of natural hygiene and 80/10/10. >Science is as much about politics and philosophy as every other academic dicipline is. In the short run, for a very few, narrow, specific topics -- m
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
>Beyondveg is not science, and it's "papers" have been refuted successfully by many people. Not really - to date there has not been a refutation by anyone with scientific credibility. Only one raw expert has scientific credibility - Jeff Novick. (He used to post here, long ago, until he got tired of dealing with the extremists.) But Jeff is a contributor to Beyond Veg and a criti
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
The Krishna devotees ("Hare Krishnas" or Viashnavas*) offer their food to Krishna, their God, and he spiritually "eats" it. They then eat the leftovers. They believe that such food is sanctified and made holy by the offering process, hence is good to eat. These are spiritual beliefs, not scientific ones. Only certain foods are allowed to be offered to Krishna, but most raw
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
>Dulset, my impression of beyondveg.com is that it's an Anti-Vegan website with a slight craving for scientific-ish papers (although it drags a fair amount of BS in with even the slightist scientific idea/word/etc). Given this website (rawfoodsupport.com) is about getting and providing support for people following the raw vegan life style I see no reason at all to provide a link to questionabl
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
Read carefully what I wrote. No personal attacks of any kind. But there is sharp criticism of the natural hygiene and fundamentalist raw approaches, for very good reasons. Those approaches can lead people to harm, and to make things worse, natural hygiene is full of itself. NH puports to be based on reason when in fact it is based on emotion, misinformation, intellectually dishonest pseudoscience
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
Neem is a powerful herbal medicine, and should be treated as a medicine and not a food. Raw neem is quite strong, and one could overdose on it.
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
>Then even so, which "authority figure" has finally conquered, overcome and subdued the other "authority figures" and is now the supreme guru with all the vested powers to dictate what can be eaten to still meet the "official" criteria of rawness? There is no central authority in raw. It is decentralized. Hence the question is not "what is the single stand
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
Wow. Ignorant but "compassionate" vegans openly hating GMO crops, which have the potential to improve nutrition and reduce starvation. For example, golden rice: rice altered to produce beta-carotene, has the potential in some 3rd world countries to reduce blindness cause by vitamin A deficiency. I guess their compassion doesn't extend to the residents of the 3rd world. As for GMO ge
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
>Here's a little background on fermenting cacao beans, it discuss a little about the importance of proper fermentation. Also that during fermentation a lot of heat is produced "killing" the bean, many raw foodists probably won't like that: Thanks for the link. It makes it abundantly clear that the fermentation process is decidely unsanitary, hence room for E Coli, and other nas
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
> Er, chocolate is cooked. Why discuss it on raw vegan forum....(sorry, some other thread made me grumpy...) Because not everyone is 100% raw. And even among those who claim 100% raw, you can find plenty, e.g., the fundamentalist natural hygiene crazies, for example, who claim that raw cacao is toxic and cooked and all manner of evil. >I find nothing unsafe or questionable about raw
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17 years ago
longtimeraw
My point on raw cacao: besides being overpriced, both the raw-ness and safety are questionable. Chocolate is cooked, but it is safer - less likely than raw cacao to have E Coli and many other nasties. It is also cheaper. If you really want chocolate, buy the cooked artisan kind, not the hyped and questionable raw cacao.
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