i saw this on tv the other night was a great show

thoguht i would pass it on

part 1 is here: [www.youtube.com]
part 2 is here: [www.youtube.com]
part 3 is here: [www.youtube.com]

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

hmm sorry those links are condensed version of what i say .. heres the HST version i saw 9 parts watch the short or long one up to you ... the long ones better tho

part 1 [ca.youtube.com]
part 2 [ca.youtube.com]
part 3 [ca.youtube.com]
part 4 [ca.youtube.com]
part 5 [ca.youtube.com]
part 6 [ca.youtube.com]
part 7 [ca.youtube.com]
part 8 [ca.youtube.com]
part 9 [ca.youtube.com]



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i saw the last half of it on tv the other night, it was freaking fantastic! i found myself cheering at the crumbling concrete and metal buildings and monuments, it was so GOOD! only a little scary to think of no people, mostly that looked like a really, really good thing. perhaps we'll make ourselves extinct before it's too late for the planet to recover.

All well and good to hate the human species, but while we are going extinct, we, i.e., our children & grandchildren, will suffer terribly. It won't be a fun time where everyone just suddenly falls over dead.

How many of you here have children, and would you like to see them slowly die of starvation and the other forms of degradation that neessarily go hand in hand with a slow extinction? Not me, boy.

I saw the docu also, and saw it as anti-human, Marxist propaganda. Yes, we need to clean up our act and I hope that will be the result of this show - not a sense of hopelessness and constant self-hatred. But just enough self-contempt to get going & clean up our mess.

hmm interesting thoughts there Horsea

i didnt see it as propaganda myself at all .. but all our eyes our different an see things differently (thank goodness!!)

i think it was interesting from a point of a sudden dissaperance ..*poof* no humans .. and the what happens after .. that was the interesting part to me

as there was no mention on *how* the humans poofed .. and no scenes of sufferening .. extinction etc. .. i think they just were just illustrating a point

actually the sad part to me was the pets stuck indoors ..

and i gotta side with coco on this one .. i was cheering when some of the big monster concrete stuff crumbling lol

on a more personal level .. i look around everyday and see condo complexes sprawling over perfectly good farmland all around me and dont for the life of me understand where these politicians and developers figure were gonna be growing our food in the future

we have the technology to build the tallest buildings in the world and go deep into the earths core .. i cant understand why farmland continuely is allowed to be taken out of the reserve .. i can only assume that its cheaper to build *OUT* rather then *UP and DOWN*

this is the part that gives me a sense of hopelessness .. that todays quick buck is tommorows big debt/

one of my loftiest goals in life i remember when i was in high school (long time ago lol) and thought how cool would it be to get rich an buy up whole neighborhoods and smash them down an return them green space

obviously this presents many logistic challenges lol .. but it was an interesting thought at the time and well .. im still not rich so ....

but i could see it now .. me waving directions to coco in the big machine with the wrecking ball =D (hee hee of course it would be a solar powered wrecking ball tho !!)

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist




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"i look around everyday and see condo complexes sprawling over perfectly good farmland all around me and dont for the life of me understand where these politicians and developers figure were gonna be growing our food in the future.

Unfortunately, because of the population explosion in America in the last few years, we have urban sprawl.

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we have the technology to build the tallest buildings in the world and go deep into the earths core .. i cant understand why farmland continuely is allowed to be taken out of the reserve .. i can only assume that its cheaper to build *OUT* rather then *UP and DOWN*

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Building "Up and Down" and living in the cities is fine for people who want to live in the cities, but some people want to live in the country, maybe live in the mountains, maybe a small creek nearby and own some land to grow their own food and become self-sufficient.

yep for sure Lois .. sadly so many of those little peices of land are getting swallowed up around here :/

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

hey, i have two kids. bigger picture my friends, bigger picture. as much as i would do anything for them i don't think the whole world should suffer because humans are greedy. children are innocent, yes, but they suffer for the sins of adults every day and this will never change. what of nature's other children? are ours more worthy of salvation than they are? should they continue to be made to suffer in favour of ours? i don't think so. i don't think that we are more important just because we have language and opposable thumbs and can build monsterous buildings and cars and bombs. they, in their true innocence, are more worthy of salvation than us. sad but true and eventually time and our own destructive behavior will see it so. i can only hope for a global recovery from our abuses as seen in that inspiring movie.

now, if we can find a way to make that happen while we are still here on the planet...well. that's a different story, isn't it.

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on a more personal level .. i look around everyday
> and see condo complexes sprawling over perfectly
> good farmland all around me and dont for the life
> of me understand where these politicians and
> developers figure were gonna be growing our food
> in the future

The neocons in control of Washington & much of the western world likely have as their plan that food, raw materials & manufacturing will all come from elsewhere in the world, and America's function will just be to just oversee & direct the whole complex operation through its armed forces. Yipper. Trust me on this one.

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one of my loftiest goals in life i remember when i
was in high school (long time ago lol) and thought
how cool would it be to get rich an buy up whole
neighborhoods and smash them down an return them
green space

Well, there is plenty of green space in all the cities I have visited, acres & acres, and except for stupid golfers, I see virtually no one enjoying them. Everybody's inside watching sports & porno or playing video games. Not to mention lining up for fast food.

In this lofty vision that you had in high school, where did you see yourself living, inasmuch as the neighbourhoods would be smashed down? Even considering the 'logistic challenges' you mentioned.

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but i could see it now .. me waving directions to
coco in the big machine with the wrecking ball =D
(hee hee of course it would be a solar powered
wrecking ball tho !!)

Which particular buildings would you prefer to wreck with your giant wrecking ball? I would definitely pick those unspeakably ugly excuses for architecture designed by Daniel Liebeskind and esp. Frank Gehry, just for starters, of course. I would spare the gorgeous old cathedrals & traditional architectural wonders.

Lois, I was glad you mentioned that some people like living in the country. Unfortunately, the neocons despise rural people, small towns, etc. I have heard them say this in interviews. They spew hatred of us. Their goal is to make country life impossible and herd us all into megalopolises where we will be more easily watched and controlled. The ecofreaks would like this, too, because they hate humanity and want to give the land back to the buffalo.

jgunn

<<one of my loftiest goals in life i remember when i was in high school (long time ago lol) and thought how cool would it be to get rich an buy up whole neighborhoods and smash them down an return them green space>>

i STILL have fantasies like that
and i ain't even in high school any more

yep horsea there is definitely some monstrosties i would target the wrecking ball on

i do love old architecture it has so much style and thought put into it .. not just lines and glass ...

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

Glad you're on the same page as me, Jodi, regarding the destruction of buildings. Gehry's ugly art gallery in Bilbao, Spain is #1 on my list! It is a P.O.S. of the highest order. Fire up them wrecking balls.