Cyborg with rat brain comes to life!!
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Anonymous User
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Date: August 15, 2008 05:34PM [www.breitbart.com]
Both cool & scary at the same time! For the religious types - does this bot with a brain have a soul? Or, if you arbitrarily believe only the human animal has a soil, would the cyborg have a soul if it had a human brain? Re: Cyborg with rat brain comes to life!!
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Joanne81
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Date: August 15, 2008 06:17PM I feel sorry for the rat stuck in a robot body. He/she will never know what it is like to fully experience being a rat. Rats laugh when they are tickled you know, the sound is just too high for humans to hear. The poor rat will never know the joy of being tickled. They are also very playful, with big personalities. I hate how they are disrespected and seen as objects to experiment on. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/15/2008 06:25PM by Joanne81. Re: Cyborg with rat brain comes to life!!
Posted by:
dewey
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Date: August 15, 2008 11:44PM Joanne81 Wrote:
Rats laugh when they are > tickled you know, the sound is just too high for > humans to hear. seriously? do you have some web proof? i`d like to send it to my friend...she has 2 pet rats patty Re: Cyborg with rat brain comes to life!!
Posted by:
la_veronique
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Date: August 16, 2008 01:01AM hmmmm
something to think about will think about it some more Re: Cyborg with rat brain comes to life!!
Posted by:
Joanne81
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Date: August 16, 2008 02:31AM [news.bbc.co.uk]
[www.youtube.com] Here is an article and a video about rats laughing. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/16/2008 02:31AM by Joanne81. Re: Cyborg with rat brain comes to life!!
Posted by:
arugula
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Date: August 16, 2008 03:50AM Yeah, I think I have previously posted this. There is a guy (Panskepp) at Bowling Green State Uni that wrote about 5 papers on it. Some of them are free, they might not say so in pubmed but a google search will provide them.
[www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] Re: Cyborg with rat brain comes to life!!
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Anonymous User
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Date: August 16, 2008 04:11AM i'm sorry, i couldn't get past the rat brain tissue part in the beginning. that was sad and painful to read. we had rats as pets too. Re: Cyborg with rat brain comes to life!!
Posted by:
Lightform
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Date: August 16, 2008 04:21AM I've just been thinking about this after reading the artical CB, and in relation to your question. My interpretation of the soul is that it is an inherent consciousness/energy which suffuses all things, and that we as humans start to identify with it when it reaches a certain level of complexity.
So I think that this robot would have about as much of a "soul" as a fruit fly or there abouts. Of course.. there are those who would atribute a soul selectively to humans, in which case the question would need to be be directed to those specific individuals. Re: Cyborg with rat brain comes to life!!
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Date: August 16, 2008 05:08AM i'm confused... are you saying that a fruit fly has a "lesser" soul than a larger creature? by what measure? because they are small? it seems to me that a soul is a soul is a soul, if in fact there is such a thing, and that none are smaller or lesser than the rest. how can that sort of thing be qualified?
also, i wonder if the soul resides in the tissue of a creature or in the consciousness. i don't know if a part of a body, say a finger, holds soul even if it is kept "alive" in a lab. that seems quite odd to me. Re: Cyborg with rat brain comes to life!!
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dewey
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Date: August 16, 2008 05:29AM Joanne81 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > [news.bbc.co.uk] > m > > [www.youtube.com] > > Here is an article and a video about rats > laughing. thanks joanne...i passed it on to my friend patty Re: Cyborg with rat brain comes to life!!
Posted by:
Lightform
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Date: August 16, 2008 06:12AM Coco
This is just my perspective. I feel that "a soul" is "the soul", and is just embodied in a fruit fly with less complexity. I was realy trying to express that I do indeed think that this robot would have a "soul" in the same way that I think a rock has one, and I have one, but is just expressed in a simpler form. As I said.. this is just my perspective. Who defines what it means anyway ? Re: Cyborg with rat brain comes to life!!
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Joanne81
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Date: August 16, 2008 01:09PM I think I agree with Lightform. I see all life is an embodiment of the universal consciousness, which like energy never ceases and constantly changes form. This consciousness is what I think of as soul. The rat has a soul. The scientists were even amused by it's personality. I imagine it is just shining more dimly, while embodied in this way then say a normal rat. Although it is ignorant to try and quantify one type of soul as superior to another, because that would just be opinions coming from my human centered biases. I would rather live in gratitude and wonder for this mysterious, gorgeous, numinous existence and all the beings in it. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/16/2008 01:11PM by Joanne81. Re: Cyborg with rat brain comes to life!!
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Anonymous User
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Date: August 16, 2008 01:39PM ah, yes. in that case you are right in line with my thinking. soul=universal energy. yes, absolutely.
i am liking the ideas this brings to my mind of treating everything that one encounters with a respectful fraternity. kwim? even the rocks. appreciating and honouring and taking nothing for granted for we are all one. we are the rocks dancing after all. Re: Cyborg with rat brain comes to life!!
Posted by:
ThomasLantern
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Date: August 17, 2008 06:13AM fruit is alive too, you know. murderer. Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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