rachmaninov had big hands
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arugula
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Date: November 30, 2008 05:07PM very funny
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Posted by:
la_veronique
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Date: December 01, 2008 06:46AM " but only small HANDS!!"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHH LOLOLOLOLLOLOL!! myy gawwwwshhhhhh.... this was fannnnnnntastttticccc!!!! made my day indeeddddiyyyy!! thanksss arrugggsszzz!! Re: rachmaninov had big hands
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arugula
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Date: December 01, 2008 12:52PM I remember trying to play this piece, the first time I looked at the score, I just said "Oh, brother." Rachmaninov is like that.
In practice I think that most people drop notes, break up the chords, that kind of thing. Because it's impossible to reach all those spans for most people. Small hands here, too! Re: rachmaninov had big hands
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Anonymous User
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Date: December 02, 2008 03:26AM Cool vid, I love piano music. Re: rachmaninov had big hands
Posted by:
Jose
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Date: December 06, 2008 01:58PM Haha, that was fantastic
Cheers, J Re: rachmaninov had big hands
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la_veronique
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Date: December 07, 2008 07:03AM arugula
how did u play that stretching the hands more than an octave is pretty difficult\ not to mention painful i'm thinking that i would need to have some sort of surgery to make my hands streeeeetttchhhh or some infusion of stem cells that would make my fingers looooonggerrrrr i totally luvvveddd that the pianist and the guy holding all the "accoutrements" were able to throw and catch with precision ( no dropping on the floor) and i think it took HIGH skill to be able to throw it over one's head and not over the other person's head LOL pretty fUn TASTic!! Re: rachmaninov had big hands
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arugula
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Date: December 07, 2008 11:49AM I dropped noted and made some of the chords semi-arpeggios.
I've had better luck with some of his other works. One that is not difficult but really gorgeous is the 18th variation from the Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini. first 3 minutes of this: [au.youtube.com] Re: rachmaninov had big hands
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la_veronique
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Date: December 07, 2008 04:36PM used to listen to this all the time
it used to make me overly emotional ( dunno why.. maybe past life stuff?) so can't listen to it anymore though i listened to it here again anyhow not sure what the deal is some music does this to me yes it is gorgeous Re: rachmaninov had big hands
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arugula
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Date: December 07, 2008 06:22PM I don't know. Music is very mysterious, how deeply it can affect us. Certain chord progressions, even simple one-note melodies, can trigger very intense emotions. And yes it can be overload.
I auditioned a few pianos yesterday, a couple of them were major-league intense, giving me the feeling similar to falling in love--butterflies in the stomach, heart skipping a beat, racing pulse. Just knocking on the inside of the very thick rim of a Mason & Hamlin AA and hearing the intensely powerful reverb hit me in the gut, knowing that this is an instrument that will express my deepest feelings. That sort of thing. Too bad I'm not made of money, I'd have that big expensive baby in my living room. Re: rachmaninov had big hands
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la_veronique
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Date: December 12, 2008 09:03AM i don't get emotional when i'm around a piano
just the music though yeah, pianos different ones have so much personality especially the ones that have been played over and over again years and years by different people or even the same person i prefer the ones that have been played on more more deeper vibrations and yeah, just 3 notes together can indeed trigger powerful feelings ain't that something <<Too bad I'm not made of money, I'd have that big expensive baby in my living room>> ha ha! maybe u can pay for "visitation rights" or shall i say "visitation RITES" some places have a room with a piano and u can play in the room i like baldwin piano a humble little piano Re: rachmaninov had big hands
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arugula
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Date: December 12, 2008 10:35PM Baldwin is tanking.
[www.trumanndemocrat.com] Soon there will be only 3 American piano makers: Steinway, Mason & Hamlin, and Charles Walter, all three of which are super yummy and also super expensive even when very used. Re: rachmaninov had big hands
Posted by:
Tamukha
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Date: December 18, 2008 04:13AM Wonderful, arugula! Thanks for posting! Love Rach's music; am convinced he wrote most of his stuff to torture pianists! Re: rachmaninov had big hands
Posted by:
la_veronique
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Date: December 20, 2008 09:50AM darnitbaldwinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn...a ggggggggghhhhhh
steinways are not as deeply resonant as a baldwin especially new ones which have that feeling that you are playing an electric keyboard but the steinways that have been "broken into" lose that sound and feel like you are playing on rubber plastic keys and then they actually sound pretty good like you could drop a shiny dime into a well and it will sing back to you Re: rachmaninov had big hands
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la_veronique
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Date: December 20, 2008 09:56AM arugula
don't worry about getting a new expensive piano i'm sure your heart is set on a baby grand steinway the thing is though that the more a piano has been played on ( to a certain point) the better it will sound get it used sure ... there are pianos that are like dilapidated homes and they are falling apart and some of the keys don't even make any sound but are "silent" from all the glorious abuse i'm not talking about getting one of those unless you enjoy having a note or two not sounding when you are playing a piece get one that is like a car that has around 40 thousand miles on it these sorta pianos sound better than the ones that are brand new but if it has 340 000 miles on it, u can bank on it having some keys going AWOL on you when u try to press it Re: rachmaninov had big hands
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arugula
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Date: December 20, 2008 12:02PM With long-term use:
the hammers get funky the action tanks, all those moving parts need to be replaced the soundboard loses its convexity (crown) and flattens out, providing less sustain the strings decay and possibly rust, needing to be replaced rarely, the lyre needs replacement None of these are cosmetic issues, they are all about the sound and the way it plays. The broken-in part takes about 1 year of moderate use. After that, it's all downhill. Good pianos need rebuilding every 50 years plus or minus with a good touchup every few years or so. Mediocre pianos are not worth rebuilding. Sometimes with a really good piano after 25-30 years you need to replace only the strings and the action, but usually the crown goes and then you might as well redo everything. Trouble with rebuilding is it is not as environmentally friendly as it sounds: with a complete rebuild you replace everything but the lyre, the rim, and the legs. I have my eye on that newly rebuilt Mason and Hamlin, it is built like a tank. The cost will be somewhere between zero and a new Steinway, which is still pretty stratospheric compared to my salary. But hey, you do what you have to do. It will probably mean more sweet potato and less raw greens because food is currently the only place in my budget where I can cut back and put money towards a piano. I don't respond much to the cheaper Japanese and Chinese ones, there is nothing like a good American or European grand with all the rich harmonics except maybe for Shigeru Kawai, which is built similarly and has similar costs. Re: rachmaninov had big hands
Posted by:
la_veronique
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Date: December 21, 2008 07:29PM back to the main thread " rachmaninov had big hands"
those were pretty cool contraptions that the guy was throwing to the korean guy so that he could play the notes i wonder if those come with really great pianos i mean, hey... what if their heart was set on a shigeru kawai AND playing rachmaninov it should come WITH the piano as a bonus it would e called "rachmaninov accoutrements" well, arug i guess u are going to be eating a LOT of sweet potatoes parsley is pretty cheap too my fave food and is like the baldwin piano simple, humble, packs a punch!!!! Re: rachmaninov had big hands
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arugula
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Date: December 21, 2008 09:50PM Well, they do, except that they aren't big sticks with felt-covered prongs, they are electronic now, with solenoids connected to optical sensors and LEDs: pianomation, pianoforce, player disc, CEUS, disklavier, these are all the modern version of player pianos.
Some of them claim to have sensitivity exceeding what the human touch is capable of, but they still haven't managed to make them so sensitive that they sound like a human being playing. I don't like them. I will probably be eating sweet potatoes for the rest of my life. Unless I win the lotto or something. Re: rachmaninov had big hands
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la_veronique
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Date: December 22, 2008 03:46AM arugulopolis:
<<Well, they do, except that they aren't big sticks with felt-covered prongs, they are electronic now, with solenoids connected to optical sensors and LEDs: pianomation, pianoforce, player disc, CEUS, disklavier, these are all the modern version of player pianos>> i don't consider these REAL pianos in fact, i don't even consider them at all call me arrogant i don't care but i thumb my nose down at those contraptions they are NOT pianos at all its fine if others like to play those things but they ought to be called something else not P I A N O electrically enhanced keyboard is what those are and they are not the same just aren't its the difference between a redolent, fragrant, rich smelling apple grown biodynamically in dark soil and a fruit grown from Monsanto seed they may look alike but they are entirely different Re: rachmaninov had big hands
Posted by:
arugula
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Date: December 25, 2008 03:58AM Yes, we now have
P I A N O in the house! First piano in my house in 9 years! I've been playing so much today that my right trapezius muscle feels sprained. Dealer loaned me a Kawai K3 upright for until his M&H AA is ready. Joy and rapture! But I haven't gotten that Rach prelude out yet. Still feeling scared about it. Arugula have small hands. But big pianistic ambitions. Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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