Expanding on the first whats your purpose,there was a fellow named Richard Proeneke,who left society and went to live in the Alaskan wilderness alone for over 30 years.This fascinates me.Here is a man who left everything that society tells you you need to be happy.And as it turns out he ended up very happy and content,just living alone and off the land.Built his own cabin,and made every tool he needed all with his two hands.He was not totally raw,but he sure didnt eat fast food either.
The point of this thread is that I was wondering if in any way that eating raw foods,or at least very minimally processed foods , have helped anyone feel more and more content alone and wanting to get back to the very simple things in life,and less and less needing all the things that society says you need to find purpose and be happy?
Do you think diet ties directly into this?

That living foods help to peel away all the layers of the things we think we need?
Or at least its one of the ways that can help get you to that point?

Thanks.

Vinny

eaglefly Wrote:
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> Expanding on the first whats your purpose,there
> was a fellow named Richard Proeneke,who left
> society and went to live in the Alaskan wilderness
> alone for over 30 years.
I remember, years ago, watching a video about his life in
Alaska. It is no longer available through YouTube. He ate
a typical cooked food diet, and even killed animals for meat.
Perhaps in a warmer climate, one could duplicate his idea, and
live on a Spiritualized Diet.....WY

[en.wikipedia.org]

I love this film. Along similar lines...[www.intothewild.com] (one scene where he kills a moose so if that offends you, don't watch)
Overall though,seven stars!



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ROIRRAW Wrote:
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> I love this film. Along similar
> lines...[www.intothewild.com] (one scene
> where he kills a moose so if that offends you,
> don't watch)
> Overall though,seven stars!
I'm sorry, 5 Stars is the highest rating.
I saw this film somewhere.....bummer about how he died.....WY
P.S. I'm into "Celebrating Time Alone". Is it as Good as you
first thought?

Great books normally grip. Can't leave them down. This I must leave down. I read a passage or two. A chapter maybe and then I have to leave it down.To digest.To contemplate. So, its different from what I was expecting but yes, I am very happy to have found it and realized a long time ago that a single quote or line in a book that may otherwise not have interested can change a life and there are many very rich insights and discoveries in this book. So, in a nutshell, not what I was expecting after reading the introduction but very happy with what I got!

In relation to , bummer about how he died, I agree but found this passage in the 'into the wild' book,which suggested to me that staying true to who he was , no matter how those choices appeared to others allowed him to be at peace with the most important person in his life at the most important time in his life. Himself.

"One of his last acts was to take a picture , of himself , standing near the bus under the high Alaska sky,one hand holding his final note toward the camera lens , the other raised in a brave , beatific farewell. His face is horribly emaciated, almost skeletal.But if he pitied himself in those last difficult hours-because he was so young, because he was so alone, because his body had betrayed him and his will had let him down-it's not apparent from the photograph. He is smiling in the picture, and there is no mistaking the look in his eyes; Chris McCandles was at peace, serene as a monk gone to God."

ROIRRAW Wrote:
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> In relation to , bummer about how he died, I agree
> but found this passage in the 'into the wild'
> book,which suggested to me that staying true to
> who he was , no matter how those choices appeared
> to others allowed him to be at peace with the most
> important person in his life at the most important
> time in his life. Himself.
That's good, but I can't help thinking that he
could have accomplished more. Perhaps you've hit on our
Purpose in Life....to be True to ourselves.....WY

heh funny .. after watching that movie , i thought , what a selfish boy, thoughtless and unprepared , had he had the forethought to have a map he would have known there was a bridge a few short miles down the river where he could have walked out to possible rescue. Pity he put his family through so much grief for the sake of reckless adventure.

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

Oh Jodi ... what a guilt trip
I personally feel that there is no one to be responcible for other than yourself. IMO, you cannot and should not, attempt to controll another persons free will. This is not to say that I condone irresponcibility towards others, just that how another person recieves you is entirely their own jurisdiction.

WY

Is there any greater purpose than being at peace within oneself ? What material victories have any merrit other than by self vested appreciation ?

I have heard many who I consider to be wise, claim that love is a far greater reward than mere physical survival. I think that a short life of true fulfillment is better than 100 years of despondency. Each to their own path I say !

Eaglefly, I think the answers to both your questions is yes, although there are def. other factors. I think when you eat this purely, your mind is more clear and able to go into places like this than when it is clouded because of eating crap.

That movie made me so mad that he did not adequately prepare himself for liveing in alaska. He had no forthought whatsoever concerning diet and how to take care of himself. It seemed it was chance that he found that bus but he had that thought that meat was the soul provider of sustance when the natives were much mor knowedgable concerning servival. After seeing the movie I was mad that he died and left to feel frusterated.

pampam Wrote:
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> ......... After seeing the movie I was mad that
he died and left to feel frustrated.
He wasn't prepared for the Life he had chosen. At
least he made a move.....that's the lesson for us.....WY

You know WY...
If you are "moving" along a motorway moving at 100 kps, then you will pass things that are beside it at that speed. Yet if someone "moves" along that same motorway at 120 kps, then they will be "moving" at 20 kps to you, and you will be stationary relative to them. My point being... where exactly are you moving to, and in relation to what ? and what exactly makes it worth moving to and why ?

There are millions of people around me today who are "moving" constantly, chasing the things which they think will fulfill them. But I feel that this ideology is precisely what is causing them to feel incomplete, and ironically to experience positions of physical lack as well. My understanding is that reality is fulfilling by default, and that it is only through judgements of inadequacy ( believing that something is required ) that we have the possibility of experiencing lack in the first place.

Lightform Wrote:
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> You know WY...
> ........ My understanding is that
> reality is fulfilling by default, and that it is
> only through judgements of inadequacy ( believing
> that something is required ) that we have the
> possibility of experiencing lack in the first
> place.
You've hit the answer, but your stance is incorrect to
my way of thinking. That doesn't make it incorrect.
There are a couple of quotes in 'Conversations with God' that
go something like..."In order to experience who You are, you must first
experience who you are not" and "You are in every moment deciding
Who You Are". My position is effort is required. Your position is more
like Eckhart Tolle', which requires no effort. It just depends on how
you see it......WY

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I'm definitely not content alone. I used to think if I just went off alone somewhere I could get over all my problems but I'm a social animal (as are most humans) and I need other people.

People are frustrating creatures because you can't control them the way you can with your furniture & even your work to some degree (if you're fortunate enough to live in the 1st world anyway).

communitybuilder Wrote:
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> I'm definitely not content alone. I used to think
> if I just went off alone somewhere I could get
> over all my problems but I'm a social animal (as
> are most humans) and I need other people.
I wish I could be that way. I'm a Perfectionist, and
'see' everything other people do. I can't be around it.....WY
P.S. I'm still looking for the person more Perfect than I am,
but then they probably couldn't stand being around me.

My purpose...
To enjoy being!
ffx

ffx,
Yes,I know what you mean.
The days when just "being" is enough are my best.
The days when I sense any kind of lack,or wanting this or that and I wont be fulfilled until I have it....are my worst.

Vinny