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why are we here...?
Posted by: juicin' john ()
Date: February 07, 2011 04:46AM

just interested in what you all think our reason for being here on this earth is..?

jj

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Re: why are we here...?
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: February 07, 2011 04:56AM

To live a good life that we are happy to have had at the end of our days, whatever that may mean to each of us individually. To not be mired in rules and philosophy, to love the moments as they come, to trust that the universe is unfolding as it should. To just be.

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Re: why are we here...?
Posted by: jono ()
Date: February 07, 2011 06:05AM

no reason

i just quirk here

i get payed in mangoes and orange juice

imagine if i'd written orangutan juice, that would have been weird

butt

2 b somewhat semi-serious

hmmm

can i do it

ok

i'll try

...

we are here to:

live learn and love
shine as the stars above
because eternal justice just is
and there's just us
so just give
to the center
which is everywhere
be aware
that a key to lucidity
is to feel free to mind your mind without time
so you won't feel left behind
when this spinning sphere shifts gear
have know fear
as there is only ever
a constantly changing
rearranging
evolving
self solving
expanding and compacting
origin re-acting
experience of the variance
of every streaming instance
of
here

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also

we are here to protect the future of nature

we are nature

my computer is nature

everything is nature, even concepts and numbers and metaphysical bits are nature

eventually we will learn to traverse and create new universes and we'll seed them with the makings of intelligent life

we will visit earth-like planets and guide human-like beings to become more evolved and self-sufficient and morally rich

we are here to guide and coach and mentor eachother

we are all both student and teacher to eachother

live learn and love

shine as the stars above

we are eternal stardust gliding along the framework of a grand spiritual machine

infinity is perfection actualized and every moment is a gift

but what of pain and suffering, how are those moments gifts

tis the blessing in disguise

karmic course corrections

there exist horrible forms of torture imaginable in the universe, more horrible than even that yet conceived of by man. these forms of torture make water-boarding look like a vacation cruise to the tropics. we can only hope and have faith that the spiritual machine that is all that is has an invisible hand and distributes justice in due fashion, and protects all from experiencing the depths of the horrors that may be imagined.

did i say live learn and love

oh yah

uh

live learn and love

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Re: why are we here...?
Posted by: Wheatgrass Yogi ()
Date: February 07, 2011 07:34AM

juicin' john Wrote:
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> just interested in what you all think our reason
> for being here on this earth is..?
In Neale Donald Walsch's "Conversations with God", we
are here so God can manifest through us....God being
a Spirit, and genderless.
Many have...Most haven't. There's still time. Get on the Stick.....WY

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Re: why are we here...?
Posted by: Curator ()
Date: February 07, 2011 09:43AM

I could go on forever on this subject, but for me personally, its best summed up by this quote.

"It's not enough to have lived. We should be determined to live for something. May I suggest that it be creating joy for others, sharing what we have for the betterment of personkind, bringing hope to the lost and love to the lonely."
-Leo Buscaglia

I am to tired to go anymore in depth with such a complex question. Interesting thread.

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Oh, mirror in the sky
What is love?
Can the child within my heart rise above?
Can I sail through the changing ocean tides?
Can I handle the seasons of my life?

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Re: why are we here...?
Posted by: Tamukha ()
Date: February 07, 2011 01:30PM

WY,

So God put us here to use as avatars? LOL!

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Re: why are we here...?
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: February 07, 2011 01:46PM

LOL!

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Re: why are we here...?
Posted by: eaglefly ()
Date: February 07, 2011 08:16PM

Good one to ponder.
Some days I have no clue.
Its all pointless.

Other days when I am deep into a hobby,the smallest detail of a project takes on great meaning.

Vinny

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Re: why are we here...?
Posted by: banana who ()
Date: February 07, 2011 09:26PM

I have always made that the #1 concern of my life--the purpose for it all. After much reading and using intuition, I believe that there are myriad reasons. Actually, I think the Material World is a matrix of sorts where most people get trapped and think it's the place to be. The Buddhists and Jains (and Hindus, I am sure) talk about the Wheel of Birth and Death. It's not a matter of hating this place but of understanding its temporary nature and not getting caught up in that illusion (thinking it's more solid and eternal). But I also believe that some souls choose to come here to help humanity. So I don't think it's cut-and-dried but I think even asking the question is a major sign of evolution!smiling smiley Even some of the most intelligent people seem to scoff at anything hinting at philosophy.

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Re: why are we here...?
Posted by: Wheatgrass Yogi ()
Date: February 08, 2011 05:59AM

Tamukha Wrote:
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> WY, So God put us here to use as avatars?
Exactly, except you don't change back and forth.
I understand there's a sequel coming out in a couple of
years. Do you know when? I enjoyed the original.....WY

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Re: why are we here...?
Posted by: Tamukha ()
Date: February 08, 2011 02:58PM

WY,

This one will puzzle me for days.

Did not like "Avatar" the plot because it didn't have a single original idea. Liked "Avatar" the film because it was visually and aurally spectacular. The first sequel's due some time in 2014.

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Re: why are we here...?
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: February 08, 2011 03:04PM

I won't go see it. The first one was bad enough.

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Re: why are we here...?
Posted by: Curator ()
Date: February 08, 2011 03:08PM

I didnt watch the first one, it just seemed like a high tech rip off of the childhood cartoon movie, Fern Gully... lol

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Oh, mirror in the sky
What is love?
Can the child within my heart rise above?
Can I sail through the changing ocean tides?
Can I handle the seasons of my life?

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Re: why are we here...?
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: February 08, 2011 03:29PM

Oh, good one!

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Re: why are we here...?
Posted by: Wheatgrass Yogi ()
Date: February 08, 2011 06:32PM

coco Wrote:
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> Oh, good one!
Well, "Avatar" the movie must have some redeeming value because
my brother watches it over and over again. I watched it once, but may
watch it again if the mood hits. Those battle scenes were a bit 'much'
for me.....WY

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Re: why are we here...?
Posted by: Mislu ()
Date: February 08, 2011 07:38PM

To be cheap labor for corporations? I suppose thats not it...

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Re: why are we here...?
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: February 08, 2011 08:49PM

Lots of people watch lots of movies over and over again. Godfather. Rambo. Disney. I don't much care for any of those either. Avatar had interesting special effects but I could live without any special effects, really. I've seen enough cartoons to last me a lifetime, I would rather an incredibly well developed story for a change.

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Re: why are we here...?
Posted by: Curator ()
Date: February 08, 2011 09:29PM

I agree... btw, just dl'ed it, watched a little so far, decided to take a break, cause its long, and im not enjoying it much so far,lol (still seems like a rip off of fern gully so far,hahaha)

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Oh, mirror in the sky
What is love?
Can the child within my heart rise above?
Can I sail through the changing ocean tides?
Can I handle the seasons of my life?

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Re: why are we here...?
Posted by: jono ()
Date: February 09, 2011 06:57AM

It could be that our matrix exists within a dorm room computer in another virtual world, and our God is some college kid with the same wonders and ponderings as we are sharing here.

Fractal virtual worlds.

They say as above, so below.

But, what is above the above, and what is below the below.

Fractal virtual worlds. Infinite. Worlds within worlds within worlds within worlds.

Above the above the above the above.

Below the below the below the below.

Be low. Be love. Be humble love.

We are such ants and giants at that.

I once came close to finding the off switch in my mind. It felt like I was approaching an off switch anyway. It was like the eye of the storm, it was the center of the whirl pool, the void of the vortex. It felt like if I went down into the void I might disappear entirely. I was a ship and I was being pulled into the black hole at the center of the spiral. I was fighting to stay afloat because I'm not ready yet to pop out of existence forever. Since then, I've visualized that the vortex, if I fell through the center, it might lead me to an inverted vortex on the other side that is spinning outwards and I might wash up on some island paradise who knows.

One gotsta be somewhat fearless in untrodden waters.

Does fear ever hold benefit?

If a bear is charging me, might it be good to feel a bit of fear? How much fear? What is fear anyway?

Fear often seems to relate to urgency. An urgent need or desire that involves uncertainty as to how proceeding will occur.

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Re: why are we here...?
Posted by: jono ()
Date: February 09, 2011 10:09PM

Infinite fractal worlds within worlds within worlds.

There must be an infinite invisible hand. The hand of God.

The invisible hand protects and saves and serves. The karmic hand.

Do unto others as you wish done unto you.

What comes around goes around.

You reap what you sew.

You get what you give.

Ask and ye shall receive.

Everything comes back around, with a twist. Like the mobius strip. An infinite loop with a twist. No side, one side, all sides, inside and outside.

With infinite fractal worlds, only some of the parent worlds need to be programmed explicitly to have healing and grace for all, and then all child worlds are imbued with those virtues. It's easy to have faith in this because I myself would want to have a world programmed with healing and grace for all. I am of the programmable substrate of this matrix, thus this matrix has imparted to me desire and will for healing and grace for all, and this healing and grace for all are woven into this matrix, and therefore woven into any child matrices. As above, so below, so parent matrices of this matrix too have desire and will for healing and grace for all infused into the programmable substrate of existence. There is a god, and god is all of us together weaving the invisible hand that protects and saves and serves and enacts healing and grace for all.

Infinite programmable substrate woven through a tethered fractal infinity of worlds within worlds within worlds, and grace is found within all worlds. Grace is grace. There are no degrees of grace. There is not more grace and less grace. There is only grace. Grace is grace. Grace is healing and love and perfection of beauty in the seemings of imperfection that are perfectly imperfected to perfection.

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Re: why are we here...?
Date: February 09, 2011 10:36PM

I think we are in this reality to learn how to creatively fulfill our values.

Sue

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Re: why are we here...?
Posted by: jono ()
Date: February 10, 2011 03:45AM

I like the way you phrase it simple and sweet Sue smiling smiley

values

in

deed

i value this thread so here i am posting again and fulfilling my valuing of this thread

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Re: why are we here...?
Posted by: la_veronique ()
Date: April 08, 2011 08:52AM

to throw ramen noodle at each other
and squeal with delight

to look through one eye and have the other eye be a tomato
and the nose a broccoli

to be a big pinto bean with wheels

this is the purpose of life

i truly believe with all my being

yes...

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Re: why are we here...?
Posted by: jono ()
Date: April 10, 2011 04:34AM

i'm not here

i'm over there

but maybe there is here

so then i am here

here i am

there i was

there was here

and here is now

and now is wow

and wow is whoa

and whoa is wild

and wild is weird

and weird is wild is whoa is wow is now is here is there

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Re: why are we here...?
Posted by: Tamukha ()
Date: April 10, 2011 07:32PM

Are you the wind, jono? Reminds me of a song . . .

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Re: why are we here...?
Posted by: jono ()
Date: April 10, 2011 09:31PM

hey Tamukha i think i am the wind

and i'm also the breeze

and

i'm the trees

and i hold the keys

to the locks that please

the tickling tease

and the cellular sneeze

falling

to

our

knees

and

sayin'

geeeez

and

then

catchin'

some

zzzzz

smiling smiley

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Re: why are we here...?
Posted by: jono ()
Date: April 11, 2011 06:39AM

i'm here to let you know why i'm here

and the reason i'm here is to let you know why i'm here

it loops around

why ask why

who what where when why how huh?

i'm here to lead a brigade against tyranny

to tyrannize the tyrants

nahhh, i'm just here to learn and grow and live and play

or maybe i'm here to infect the world with my essence

and leave my mark

nah... marks fade

i'm here to cheer for the folk who are actually here to do something

cuz i just might be here to do nothing

absolutely nothing

how can nothing be done?

simple

there's nothing to it

all you have to do is hover atop the rippling air of the now

and embody the nothing

and be filled with everything

and wonder and wander

and wander in the wondering wander

and ricochet like a golf ball between a narrow lane

and know that God is the golfer

and believe that God hit you just right

and that you are headed toward a hole in one

and maybe, if you really feel compelled to

you could give God some assistance

and gently curve the ball that you are toward the hole

especially in the final moments

when that hole is getting closer

and closer

and the hole is your home

it's time to go home

to the hole

hold on for the ride

gently curve yourself, in an intuitive manner, like it's nothing

nuh

thing

and be the hole

and be Whole with the hole

it's nice and comfortable in the hole

it's a good hole

it's a loving hole

the hole is the hole

the hole is holy

tis a holy hole

be holy

in a nothing to it kinda way

and then fly from the hole into God's hands and get ready for the next round

or let God bend down and pick you up

cuz God will come pick you up

if you wait long enough

God's got lots of golfing to do

so smile and let those cute little golf ball dimples smoothen your trajectory

follow your bliss

are we here to be a bunch of bliss-drunk monkeys munching on figs and mangoes?

or to evolve into transhumans and help propel the path of evolution

i think

i'm here

to think

and i think that i think too much

so maybe it's time to stop being here

maybe i'll go be over there

and stop thinking

and start drinking in the golden rays of my days

and be the lead in all the plays

cuz it's only me here

i don't even know if any of you exist

but some of you seem to exist

and i'm glad for that

i'm here to exist along with you

but sometimes i feel non existent

a push pull ping pong party

left

right

left

right

center

middle

a trailing and spiralizing omni-directional hyper-dimensional photon instantaneously threading through itself and weaving the majesty of the ever-flowing infinite Moment



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/11/2011 06:45AM by jono.

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Re: why are we here...?
Posted by: Substance D ()
Date: May 04, 2011 06:35PM

most likely we are just chemistry playing out the rules of deterministic chaos.

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Re: why are we here...?
Posted by: Mislu ()
Date: May 04, 2011 09:33PM

...to make split infinitives? just joking. I was just took a standardized test, and i was studying english grammar. Not that it really helped me. The internet hasn't really helped me either...I think my spelling and grammar has actually declined with the common usage of home computers. (just to reveal my age)

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Re: why are we here...?
Posted by: Wheatgrass Yogi ()
Date: May 04, 2011 10:30PM

Mislu Wrote:
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> ....I think
> my spelling and grammar has actually declined with
> the common usage of home computers.
If you post a lot, as you do, your spelling and
grammar has actually gotten better.
I make two posts to your one. Does that mean I'm twice as good?.....WY

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