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I agree with John Rose.....
Posted by: jmac67 ()
Date: October 13, 2012 08:52AM

After 40-odd years on a SAD diet I had reached the point where I was beginning to feel a bit like a crumbling, old man...

My body had many aches + pains of varying discomfort, I would get skin rashes + eruptions, blocked ears, I had elevated blood pressure, occasional heart pangs, painful knees, a stiff + uncomfortable lower back, inflamed, receding + painful gums + teeth, 25lbs of excess fat on my body, extreme lethargy, bloating, indigestion, constipation and more...

I was doing pretty well after 8mths on 100% 801010, with many of the above symptoms having either reduced significantly or disappeared.

However, my bodyfat level was stuck at 17% and refusing to drop any further, my H20 Hydration level was much lower than I had hoped for (55%) + also refusing to budge, my digestion was still very poor, I still had constipation at times, my strength was way, way down and my energy level was often very, very low.....

Bottom line was that after 8 months on 801010, even though I was doing pretty
well in the big scheme of things, and way better than previously on SAD, I never actually felt good! I never felt vibrant or energetic or uplifted or alive!

So, I got to thinking + investigating + studying further cos I knew that something wasn't working quite right...

Well, everything lead me back to poor digestion, assimilation, absorption + elimination..... ie the whole digestive + eliminative pathways.

And that in turn lead me right back to where my journey began... my Mum's bowel cancer diagnosis in 2006.

And that lead me back to..... yes, Juicing again!

Back to Norman Walker + Charlotte/Max Gerson, with the addition of quite a number of articles from other Juicing Advocates/Experts, in particular John Rose + Dr Schulze.

Juicing cleanses the entire digestive tract + within minutes the multitude of Vitamins + Minerals are 100% digested, absorbed + assimilated.

Juicing naturally stimulates the eliminative organs.... ie Kidneys, Liver, Lungs, Skin + Bowel.

And it does all this without the enervation + severe detox of Water Fasting.

So, I decided that I was going to do a 100 day Juice Feast (50% Vegetable + 50% Fruit Juices) but also including the whole foods if desired.

From all my research I decided upon a protocol of, first thing every morning, make 4 Litres of fresh Juice for the day (takes me 1hr).

Drink the Juice throughout the day + then eat whatever Fruit I desire as well (super-juicy, delicious Mangos for the past 3 months now!).

So, for 36 days straight I released endless, uncontrollable, explosive, multitudinous, bright green, watery bowel movements with lots of Waste, Bile + Mucous.... sometimes up to twenty bowel movements a day!

My Bowel movements were so explosive, violent, uncomfortable + unpredictable that I often couldn't go out at all for days on end for fear of soiling myself in public + buffalo-spraying everyone around me! ;-(

So, in effect, this was just like my earlier 28 day Coconut Water Fast, but with this one I was consuming far more Calories.

I hypothesized that the only mistake I had made previously on the Coconut Water fast was stopping it before I had fully cleansed + detoxed... (I, in fact, only stopped it because some friends from the UK came to came to visit me in Phuket)

This time I was determined to keep going with my Juice Feast until full cleansing + detox had been achieved.....

On Days 37 and 38 I had even more free-flowing Bowel Movements than usual and with much more Mucous than usual... and the BMs felt more like 'releases' just falling out of me... tricky to explain, but the BMs on these two days felt like an intelligent organism inside me saying, "Right, I've had enough of this now, let's get outta here!"

And then Day 39..........
I woke up feeling very light of spirit, energized + strong.
Totally different to the previous 38 days.

I drank my 4 Litres of fresh juice and 2 Litres of H20..... and not a single Bowel Movement throughout the entire day!

No digestive symptoms, no tummy discomfort, no violent, unpredictable, gushing or explosive diarrhaea or fatigue!

Just pure, endless, light, uplifting energy the whole day. Sheer Joy!

Day 40.... same as the previous day.... light, energized + strong.
I worked at a shelter for abused, abandoned + sick dogs all day in 85 degree heat, walking the dogs, jogging around the place, brushing them, picking the dogs up to carry them over bridges etc... some of the dogs being super-nervous, frightened + sensitive due to a history of abuse + neglect...

Energy Level Pure, Clean, Crisp, Constant, Uplifting + Unwavering "all" day!

That was a while back + it has remained the same ever since....

Workouts are going great.
Energy level is awesome.
Bodyfat now 14% and going down effortlessly at roughly 1/2 % per month (was 17% in April).
H20 (body hydration level) now 67% (was 55% in April).
Strength improving rapidly.
Bowel Movements are normal, regular + effortless.
I feel a childlike "joie de vivre".
I literally feel like I'm 20 years old again. (I'm actually 45yrs old)

And so it appears to me that what my Mentor Arnold Ehret said was true for me too....

"All other dietetics are mainly wrong because they lay their stress on the "food" instead of on the "Cleansing + Eliminating" values and their efficiency before the healing process can even start at all.

You CANNOT Rebuild + Regenerate a body until you have thoroughly ‘CLEANSED’ it
of Toxaemic Poisons, Mucous + Waste.

My experience during the past ten years has proven, by the rapid recovery of all diseases after the colon was cleansed, that in the colon itself lays the basic cause of almost all human ailments."

My case is not an isolated one.... I know of many Juicing testimonials demonstrating similar healing.

4 Litres of fresh Juice per day is the central foundation of the Gerson Therapy for healing cancer...

So, I'd like to say a big 'thank you' to John Rose, whose discussions + articles about the health benefits of Juicing, which I have been reading behind the scenes over the past few weeks + months, gave me added inspiration to have another go at Juice Feasting...

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Re: I agree with John Rose.....
Posted by: KidRaw ()
Date: October 13, 2012 12:22PM

That's an amazing testimony to juice feasting! What's the difference between feasting and fasting?

When you were 100% raw for 8 months, did you eat any grains - like raw oats or grain sprouts? Also did you do any juicing or blending for those 8 months? Did you lose weight when you did the juice feast? That's what keeps me from a juice fast - I'm a skinny raw foodist. I wonder how a combination of juice feasting and blending would work to prevent losing weight. Liquidarian.

We're also having fun discussing philosophy and sociology with John Rose smiling smiley

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Re: I agree with John Rose.....
Posted by: Panchito ()
Date: October 13, 2012 12:40PM

thaks for sharing your story!

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Re: I agree with John Rose.....
Posted by: jmac67 ()
Date: October 13, 2012 01:28PM

Juice Feasting is a 'minimum' of 4 litres of fresh fruit/vegetable juice per day.

Juice 'Fasting' is typically significantly less than 4 litres of juice per day.

No grains or oats or sprouts.... only low fat, raw fruits + vegetables.

During the 8 months of 801010 I did loads of Smoothies (ie Blending) but no Juicing.

So, to put it into perspective, Smoothies did not allow my body to 'cleanse + heal' effectively.

For me, it was the 'Juicing' that cleansed me + unclogged my whole body system.

I lost 'fat' whilst Juicing, but no lean body mass.

I'm no expert, but from my personal experience....

The fact that you are already underweight is really neither here nor there.

If you are underweight, overweight or sick in any way, in all 3 cases you need to Juice in order to cleanse + heal your body, first + foremost.

The Juicing will cleanse + heal your digestive + eliminative systems + unclog your bodily organs.

Only then will you be able to digest, absorb + assimilate nutrients effectively from the foods that you eat.

And only then will you be able to effectively 'put on' healthy weight in the form of lean body mass through weight training.

Dr Schulze will tell you that some of his severely underweight clients have 'put on' weight during a Juice Feast.

And I'm sure John Rose can advise you in this area too.

If I were you, I'd do eaxactly what I have done....

ie Juice 4 litres a day of fruit/vegetable juice + then, in addition, eat as much low fat fruit + veg as you desire and drink as many smoothies as you desire.

But the 4 litres of Juice per day is the basis, the foundation, the key to everything.... in my view.

And wear 'nappies' when you go out! ;-)

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Re: I agree with John Rose.....
Posted by: HH ()
Date: October 13, 2012 03:04PM

I would do juice feasts all the time if I could pay someone to do the juicing for me. At first, I really liked juicing, but then at a certain point it felt like factory work. I have a Champion juicer. Are there any juicers that actually make it easy?

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Re: I agree with John Rose.....
Posted by: jmac67 ()
Date: October 13, 2012 09:06PM

Hey HH,

6 years ago I bought a 'Norwalk' juicer, which I'm sure you know about.

The quality of the Norwalk Juicer + the Juice it produced were both unsurpassed.

But, it took so long + it was such a chore to make large quantities of juice + clean-up that, like you, in the end I quit! And I sold the Norwalk.

I then bought a Green Power Hippocrates Juicer (twin-gear, masticating Juicer)

Another fabulous quality juicer + a little faster to make juice + clean-up than the Norwalk.

But, again, over time, I found it extremely time-consuming + hard work to consistently make 'large quantities' of juice daily.... so I quit again.

I knew that 'centrifugal' juicers were generally frowned upon because of the high speed of the spinning parts, the heat + oxidation and the resultant inferior quality juice.

But, I had already learned the lesson through experience that the Juicer you use 'daily' is the best juicer for your health.

So, I spent 2 months researching the best, affordable 'centrifugal' juicers that I could find...

I'm not affiliated to any juicer companies or anything like that... these were the best centrifugal juicers that I could find, at an affordable price...

They are both very quick, you can chuck whole apples in, entire bunches of celery, whole carrots, whole cucumbers etc, the pulp is very dry for a centrifugal juicer, they don't leak, the juice is not heated at all, clean-up is very quick + easy, they are very well-designed juicers... I have been using my Philips for 1 year + it's still going strong, like new...

1. Breville 800JEXL Juice Fountain Elite £200
2. PHILIPS HR1871 JUICER £160

I feel that a high quality 'citrus juicer' is also extremely valuable for quickly making Orange juice and is highly portable if travelling... I own the Braun + it does an excellent job.

1. Braun Citromatic MPZ9 £30 (small unit + great for travelling)
2. Breville 800CPXL £150 (large unit, but will likely last a lifetime)

So, to this day I Juice 4 litres of juice first thing in the mornings, drink 1 litre whilst I'm making the juice, put the other three litres in sealed containers in the fridge, drink them throughout the day + eat whatever low-fat fruits + vegetables I desire, in addition.

It takes me 1 hour to Juice the 4 litres + clean-up.

I reckon that's a pretty good return on my time invested when you consider how amazing I feel as a result! And I easily make up that hour and some with the extra, positive energy I have throughout the day.

And also pretty good when you consider how long some people spend preparing regular, cooked + gourmet foods.

TIP: Juice 4 Litres 'first thing' every morning... then you feel like a King for the rest of the day.

My regular, daily juices...approx 50% Fruit + 50% Vegetables...

1. Apple, Carrot, Cucumber, Celery + Lemon Juice (my most popular juice)
2. Orange Juice
3. Pineapple Juice

I also chuck in Romaine with apples or pineapples.

If a Juice is too sweet for you, just add water or more vegetable Juice.

I've never juiced wheatgrass or sprouts or anything like that + I don't use any magic powders or supplements.

I only like to eat or juice fruits + vegetables that taste 'good' to me in their raw, unadulterated state.

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Re: I agree with John Rose.....
Posted by: HH ()
Date: October 13, 2012 09:22PM

jmac67-

Thank you so much for taking the time to write that. It's incredibly generous of you. I'm going to copy and paste that into my files and use for reference when I start looking.

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Re: I agree with John Rose.....
Posted by: back2eden ()
Date: October 14, 2012 12:07AM

In the fall of 2008 I did 45 days of juice and the lemon aid cleanse.
Can't recomend that enough.
I was using a KK juicer and press.
I have now made my own better press with a champion juicer as a grinder.

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Re: I agree with John Rose.....
Posted by: jmac67 ()
Date: October 14, 2012 03:00AM

Hey Guys,

This was my first ever post and I put it in the wrong 'forum'.... 'other topics'.

So, I 'copied + pasted' all the above discussions across to the 'Living + Raw Foods Discussion' Forum, under the same heading.

Cheers.

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