Hey, I'm wondering whether eating raw fish is ok? I can get some really nice raw herb sauteed salmon and I'm wondering whether it'd be ok or if it'd hurt me?

I am somewhat against animal killing, although I've eaten meat all my life I stopped after I got my dog and saw the range of emotions and intelligence they have. I am disgusted about how humans treat animals like objects but funnily enough I don't really feel strongly about fish.

Anywho, would it hurt my detox or my journey for superior health? I also want some protein because I'm into bodybuilding and I don't have access to a lot raw protein sources. Raw stuff here is very limited.

Remember that this is a vegan board - so the 'pat' answer is going to be no...fish is not ok...raw or otherwise. My personal experience is that I choose to avoid animal products of all kinds - but that is YOUR call. I certainly used to eat meats of all kinds...as well as raw fish. I feel my health has benefited immensely by foregoing these items.

-Do I feel that would eating raw fish would hurt your detox? You can certainly incorporate it....if you feel it would be of benefit to you....and report on your results. And you'll receive 100% support from me. I just don't think coming to a vegan board and asking for support of a non-vegan lifestyle is...umm....the most straightforward thing to do! LOL.

-David Z. Mason

WWW.RawFoodFarm.com

Fish are genetically very distant from us. I guess that's why a lot of people don't feel guilty eating them.

But they are intelligent. You can google "fish intelligence" and see how smart some of them are. Some experts have actually written books on their intelligence. They can also be taught tricks. Google "fish school".

They do feel pain. They struggle for life when they are caught.

The oceans are being overfished. It gets worse every year.

Fish farms are horrible places. They are packed tightly in cages too small for them to swim around much in, and the water is murky and thick with their sh*t. And geuss what they get fed? Yup, more fish.

These are some of the reasons why I do not eat fish. But it just plain old creeps me out: the thought of eating the flesh of a once living creature.

You can be a healthy vegan without fish. Get your B12 and D from pills. Get your omega3 from flax. Etc.

I don't think it will hurt you, though. To eat a little salmon, I mean.



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lol... absolutely nothing appeals to me about fish... I dont understand why we eat them at all

They were part of the early human diet, this is pretty much indisputable. However, we're not allowed to discuss such things on this particular board. I prefer to cook my fish personally though arugula is right, it's not the most sustainable long-term choice (but much easier on my digestion than nuts).

i have one word for you ~ parasites.
fish are full of wormy goodness, if that's what you're after.

coco Wrote:
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> i have one word for you ~ parasites.
> fish are full of wormy goodness, if that's what
> you're after.

Ewwww... why didn't you tell me that years ago before I quit eating fish? Oops, that's right, I didn't know ya back then, haha. j/k

Seriously though, if that doesn't deter people from eating raw fish, I'm not sure what would! Yuck!

wait what do you mean by wormy goodness?

I ate some raw fish last year. My husband eats a lot of sashimi, being "typical" Japanese. And at some point, the tuna and the salmon started to look appealing to me. I also was feeling quite sick/stuck in a rut about my diet at that point.

So I gave it a go and at sashimi about 2-3 times a week. After 3 weeks, I felt more and more turned off by the fish. Week 4, all I could swallow was raw salmon. Shortly after that, all fish was probably the most disgusting thing anyone could offer me.

The only positive thing I can maybe say about it is that it didn't mess with my digestion as I thought it would. I had no bloating or gas or "fishy poo" as I had feared. Other than that, no health improvements, no extra stamina or what not...
In the end, it was worth to find out for myself, but I am cured of all cravings!

I'm doing the parastroy program right now, maybe that will kick out whoever came in during that time of fish eating!

coco Wrote:
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> i have one word for you ~ parasites.
> fish are full of wormy goodness, if that's what
> you're after.

Ewwww... why didn't you tell me that years ago before I quit eating fish? Oops, that's right, I didn't know ya back then, haha. j/k

Seriously though, if that doesn't deter people from eating raw fish, I'm not sure what would! Yuck!


yea parasites and worms. yummy.

my dad loved to fish during the weekends and i often accompanied him. seeing first hand the suffering of those fishies never sat well with me and i eventually stopped going. i wanted to hang out with him, not murder fish. he would also get clams, big thing in the northeast. clams i could handle and i used to love 'em, but of course not any more. bleh!



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some fishy links

scientists highlight fish intelligence
[news.bbc.co.uk]

book: fish cognition and behavior
[books.google.com]

NPR radio link on fish intelligence
[www.npr.org]

really *cute* commercial of fish intelligence
[www.youtube.com]

fish school
[www.fish-school.com]

salmon is especially parasite rich- for sashimi it has to be frozen a special parasite killing way, and is never served totally fresh. salmon parasites like human guts a lot. and the freezing process does change the nutrients a little bit.

tuna, being deeper water, has few parasites that transfer to human bodies.

i no longer eat either, surprisingly, since i live in NE by the ocean. like others here i ate them for a while, but lost the taste for them. raw seaweed is fishy enough for me.

peace-