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Embalmed coconuts???
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: June 18, 2008 04:18PM

Am I dead yet, I just read in the raw foods bible that Thi coconuts
may be dipped in a chemical bath including Formaldehyde to kill parasites in the
husk they are not organic.
where might I find organic coconuts? Are all imported cocos treat with chems??
Every time you turn a chem dose waiting.
PEACE riverhousebill@yahoo.com

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Re: Embalmed coconuts???
Date: June 18, 2008 06:43PM

I have heard this also...

Makes me very grateful that I get mine from either my tree or a neighbors for the most part.

I have had luck finding organic coconuts at local food co-ops when I am in the US. Perhaps you could see if there is one near you.



My website: The Coconut Chronicles

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Re: Embalmed coconuts???
Posted by: purenkind ()
Date: June 18, 2008 08:56PM

I just read this article about a test that Matt Amsden, author of RAWvolution, hd done on thai coconuts. You can check it out fully at [www.basilandspice.com].

Here it is..

MATT AMSDEN--

Are you one of those folks whose initial excitement in discovering Thai Coconuts was quickly replaced with fear when you heard the rumor that the sweet treat is soaked in formaldehyde before reaching the United States?

I don’t know where it started nor can I remember when I first heard it, but the rumor is certainly widespread.

I have had dozens of friends and clients ask me about it in panicked phone calls, during my raw food preparation classes, or even during visits to our café.

Some fearful raw-fooders have completely removed Thai Coconuts from their diets in response to the rumor, and there are even raw restaurants that have deleted them from their menus.

In short, we have all allowed this rumor to spread based completely on hearsay and without any definitive proof.

My wife Janabai and I love Thai Coconuts and weren’t willing to leave them out of our morning shakes or delete them from our café’s menu until we received definitive proof that they are in fact, treated with formaldehyde.

Waiting for someone else to provide such proof was getting us nowhere. We decided to find the truth, not only for ourselves but also for our customers, friends, and for those spreading fear by way of a baseless rumor.

We contacted Michelson Laboratories. Michelson is a fully accredited microbiology and chemical testing lab with over 70 highly trained specialists and technicians located in Commerce, California.

Michelson was confident that after proper testing of a sample they could tell us definitively whether or not Thai Coconuts were treated with formaldehyde.

We supplied Michelson with samples from our regular stock of Thai Coconuts and waited patiently as the testing process began.

As the weeks went on, Janabai and I decided that whatever the result, we would disseminate the information as widely as possible. We would either discontinue our use of Thai Coconuts and warn others or dispel the myth and continue to endorse the use of Thai Coconuts.

On Thursday, May 11 th, 2006, we received the results from the lab.

There was absolutely no indication whatsoever that the Thai Coconut samples provided to Michelson Laboratories was ever in contact with formaldehyde.

We were excited! Not only could we continue to enjoy Thai Coconuts but we also had definitive proof that the formaldehyde scare was nothing more than rumor.

It is my sincere hope that in the future, our raw food communities will not fall prey to lies and made-up stories. These rumors divide rather than unite and spread fear rather than information.

Reader Comments (8)

are the results with organic or non-organic coconuts?
thanks
January 22, 2008 |

The tests were performed on the non-organic coconuts.
January 22, 2008 | Matt Amsden

Was the sample you sent in scrapings of the inner meat or was the outside of the coconut tested as well? Also was the coconut tested for any other harmful chemicals other than formaldehyde that the coconut could have been exposed to?
January 31, 2008 | Daniel Stonestreet

The entire coconut was tested for traces of formaldehyde (the water, flesh and husk). No other chemicals were tested for as I personally funded the testing and each chemical test costs several hundred dollars. Please remember that the primary purpose for the testing was to determine the validity of a particularly widespread claim. The implication being that at some point, someone began to authoratatively state that Thai coconuts are treated with formaldehyde while that is an absolute scientific falcity.

The purpose of the testing was not to determine whether non-organic coconuts are organic, it was to shine a light on the fact that for some reason, people have an axe to grind with Thai coconuts and that they will create out-right lies under the guise of spreading health information. If one chooses to not eat Thai coconuts for some other reason, they have that perogotive. The most important lesson I learned from this experience however, is that it is unwise and irresponsible to heed or continue to spread rumor where there is no accountability of the source. Even those who made seemingly innocent statements like "I heard Thai coconuts are dipped in formaldehyde" are implicit in a culture of spreading fear by way of a baseless rumor. Health-minded consumers have enough to contend with from large corporations buying into organic produce growing, Codex and mandatory pasteurization that we need not implode from the inside by spreading mistruths throughout our own ranks. Food should be fun! Why are we searching so desperately to find fault in a food that we could be enjoying? Now that the formaldehyde myth has been dispelled; what will they say next? I challenge new detractors put their money where their mouth is and prove their claims scientifically. If they are right, I'll set Thai coconuts aside as fast as anyone.
February 1, 2008 | Matt Amsden

Did you send in a whole coconut to be tested or one of the "shaped" coconuts that are being bought? The ones that have had the husk removed and are shaved to a point?
March 7, 2008 | Allisa

Matt - THANK YOU!! I truly appreciate you bringing science and sanity to the table - so to speak. It would be so cool if health conscious consumers would set up a donation website so we could fund testing and science of our favorite alternative health products and theories. You made my day. Thanks again.
March 8, 2008 | Sarah

Thank you Sarah- and great idea!
March 9, 2008 | Matt Amsden

Matt, first of all, you are to be commended for taking matters into your own hands and getting the coconut tested. One question: what brand of Thai Coconuts did you test?

Knowing that we can rest assured and purchase the tested and verified brand... perhaps there are other unscrupulous companies that use formaldahyde in their coconuts...

Thanks again for your innitiative.

Rawny
March 10, 2008 | Rawny

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Re: Embalmed coconuts???
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: June 19, 2008 02:08AM

Hello Pure Kind,
thank you for info.
I went to the site. Test details how many tested, from who? ect. are results of test posted anywhere?. many would have to be tested to get a clue and that would cost a bag full of miserable $$$. You have to start somewhere and Matt is off to a good start testing what he can, thanks for looking out for us coconuts. great site!
PEACE TO ALL riverhousebill

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Re: Embalmed coconuts???
Posted by: phantom ()
Date: June 19, 2008 02:33AM

Knowing what brand would be a great help...

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Re: Embalmed coconuts???
Posted by: anuiyer7 ()
Date: June 19, 2008 04:35PM

In my parents house in India wgere I was born and grew up, there were 7 coconut trees, we used to have coconut water all the time. But we were so sick of them at that time because we saw them and had them daily. After a while I didn't have them at all. Now I crave them a lot. They are so delicious. Straight from the tree, no fertilizer no chemicals nothing.

I miss that...

Take care
A Iyer


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