Think it would be smart to compare what a cow eats full grown vs. what it got from it's mother's milk?

Does anyone have any links to comparison charts of what an animal's diet is compared to what it's milk diet is?

Obviously goat milk and human milk are the same - but that doesn't mean drink the goat milk, it would mean eat like a goat. Haha.

iLIVE Wrote:
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> Think it would be smart to compare what a cow eats
> full grown vs. what it got from it's mother's
> milk?
>

Cows eat grass.. nutritiondata.com has a profile on lemongrass which might be useful.. [www.nutritiondata.com]

For data on cows milk.. [www.nutritiondata.com]

What do you think?

haha I think lemon grass is pretty different from what cows eat. Doesn't even have to be a cow. I'm just curious as to what animals eat compared to their original milk, and what that might say about their future. It could be a lost thought.

No joke.. re: lemon grass.. "The exhausted grass is used to feed cattle". [www.holisticshop.co.uk]

Nutritional data on grasses has been hard to come by in the past. Lemon grass is the only grass listed in the nutriondata index.

If you prefer wheat grass data, Dole has come out with this: [www.dolenutrition.com] ,but I doubt many farmers are serving their cows wheatgrass juice.

Regarding mature cows diet vs. their milk you will find the macronutrients (carbs, protein, fat) to be very different. Fiber content is also vastly different. The milk content would presumably be of benefit to BOTH the mother and calf.

I am not sure how helpful this information might be.

The bovine GI tract and nutritional needs in infancy and adulthood are different, as they are in humans.

One difference is that baby humans need more iron than baby cows. Baby humans get iron deficiency that stunts their growth (and they never completely will catch up), even if given raw cow's milk instead of mom's milk. That's why formula changes a bunch of things from the base. ---I believe the same is true for goat's milk. Different species, different needs.

rost0037 Wrote:
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> One difference is that baby humans need more iron
> than baby cows. Baby humans get iron deficiency
> that stunts their growth (and they never
> completely will catch up), even if given raw cow's
> milk instead of mom's milk. That's why formula
> changes a bunch of things from the base. ---I
> believe the same is true for goat's milk.
> Different species, different needs.

I didn't know that about the iron.. also baby humans need much less protein than calves due to much different growth rates.

Domesticated calves are weaned early and given formula as seems to be common with babies.. it seems to me quality of fatty acids could be given more attention in the bottle feeding thru young childhood.

From "Nutritional Requirements of Nonhuman Primates", p. 89: "The fat in milk gives perhaps the best indication of the relative importance of different fatty acids...

"Milk fats of several Old World nonhuman primates (including five different macaque species, African green monkeys, Talapoin monkeys, and the sooty mangabey) have been reported to have a fatty acid composition similar to that of the fat in human milk (Buss and Cooper, 1970; Jensen et al., 1980; Smith and Hardjo, 1974a; Smith and Hardjo, 1974b; Wolfe et al., 1993)." [books.nap.edu]

there are tons of studies that show the protein in cows milk is linked to the autoimmune disease type 1 diabetes in infants who are fed it

I read that in "The China Study"..summed it up of course
everyone should read it, it's goood

loeve Wrote:
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> "Milk fats of several Old World nonhuman primates
> (including five different macaque species, African
> green monkeys, Talapoin monkeys, and the sooty
> mangabey) have been reported to have a fatty acid
> composition similar to that of the fat in human
> milk.

so the best substitute for mama's milk isn't cow, goat or any kind of formula, it's... Monkey Milk! bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

coco Wrote:
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> so the best substitute for mama's milk isn't cow,
> goat or any kind of formula, it's... Monkey Milk!
> bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

So if we tag a line with a "bwah ha ha" we can write almost anything?

Nonhuman PRIMATE milk for humans would not be vegan.

Don't let your children go to school talking about "Monkey Milk"!!!