This is Freelee. She eats more fruit than any female today in the raw foods movement. Roz Graham has eaten the most in the last 20 years and is a hot mumma.

Fruit makes you fat? Or fruit lets you be lean, fit and strong?

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Photo from 10 days ago.

She looks good, but a diet of just 30 bananas and some orange juice is not healthy nor rounded enough in a variety of different nutrients to be healthy long term.

we also have to remember having a flat stomach really isn't the best sign to judge health.



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that's why she doesn't eat just 30 bananas and some orange juice long term.

I agree with powerlifer - even for one day it's not a healthy variety is it?

I sort of get bored with all this bragging - it's not particularly useful for most people

yes it is fine for one day and more. just like not eating for one day is fine.

but i can't convince you of that, only you can, through your own research, if you're interested.

it's not really bragging, it's showing that raw vegans can be strong and healthy because many claim that it can't be done - so it's also sort of a response to the naysayers, as well as a celebration of personal accomplishment.

I dont know why you'd want restrict yourself to eating one specific food anyway.

Freelee eats greens, I don't know why people would think a person's one day of food is their whole life of food. LOL

I don't think that Utopian Life but as an example to show the world of healthy low fat raw food it's not a wonderful example.

Fresh - maybe in itself it's not bragging but we do hear endlessly from Durianrider how wonderful he is and personally I find it tedious.

Freelee hasn't been raw for very long - I hope that she maintains her good health. I do think one needs to be careful of holding ones self up as an example to the rest of the world after such a short time.

I know shes eats other foods ive watched some of her videos, but it still seems completely pointless to restrict to one food a day, unhealthy and gives a bad impression of raw foodists in my opinion.

There will be someone out there who watches that video and trys to live on just bananas and orange juice to get a similar figure.

Were also forgetting the major reason here for looking lean is exercise, you dont just start munching fruit and look great.



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So, when you over eat on fruit you look good (like most young athletic people) and attach yourself to a total idiot? This is not true. Most vegans shun daft, loudmouthed, domineering charlatans for peaceful intelligent types.

Eating raw foods never grew silicone in my chest.

I like mono-eating sometimes, people seem to feel great when they do it. Either per meal or per day.

Nino - exactly - couldn't have put it better myself

Where are people getting the idea that the 30 Bananas a Day people are eating just fruit, or a limited variety? Seriously, where?

Nino,

If you are referring to the woman in the photo, that's skirting the bounds of slander, kinda. It also contradicts your apparent dislike for overcriticism of individuals. Just sayin'

Nino Wrote:
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Most vegans shun
> daft, loudmouthed, domineering charlatans for
> peaceful intelligent types.


And your silicone comment was supposed to be "intelligent" and "thought-provoking"? She had a chest-wall deformity.

Tamukha Wrote:
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> Where are people getting the idea that the 30
> Bananas a Day people are eating just fruit, or a
> limited variety? Seriously, where?
>
> Nino,
>
> If you are referring to the woman in the photo,
> that's skirting the bounds of slander, kinda. It
> also contradicts your apparent dislike for
> overcriticism of individuals. Just sayin'


Yeah, no matter how many times we tell people otherwise, they seem to state/think that 80/10/10ers or LFRVs only eat fruit. Maybe greens would improve their memories! :p

Tamukha Wrote:
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> Where are people getting the idea that the 30
> Bananas a Day people are eating just fruit, or a
> limited variety? Seriously, where?
>

No one is saying all they eat is that tam, its just in the video durian asks what did you eat today everything, and it was only bananas and orange juice. Before utopian comes back on to post the obvious i know she and 80/10/10ers eat other foods, but like i said i dont see why all she ate was bananas its not healthy and whether she does it one day out the year or not is irrelevant, it in my opinion gave a pretty bad impression of raw.

Theres bound to be some raw newbie out there that will try live on a diet of bananas and orange juice now in an attempt to get her body and fail horribly. Im a big fan of mono too but theres mono and only eating one food.



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powerlifer,

I don't think the average newbie is going to misunderstand that what she eats on a given day isn't all she eats. Right in the video, Freelee confirms that she eats nothing but fruits, greens, some seeds and nuts, plus water. There's no mistaking it. And newbies, shmoobies--If you are changing your diet, it's your responsibility to do your homework and not starve[or overfeed] yourself.

If one eats just bananas and some orange juice one day on a given week, it's not going to have an adverse effect on one's health. It's what one takes in over a week or several weeks that can start to affect one's health adversely. Neither she nor Harley is advocating restrictive eating in the video; quite the opposite.

I dont know i beg to differ those days would mount up, and its hypothetical here anyway we dont know how many days a month she is just eating one food, how regular it is.

I just go back to the point of why she was doing it in the first place, just seems quite an unhealthy habit.

Tam said '
If you are referring to the woman in the photo, that's skirting the bounds of slander, kinda. It also contradicts your apparent dislike for overcriticism of individuals. Just sayin'


I don't think it's skirting the walls of slander at all. If you are happy to have skimpily clad photo's of your body put up for all to see on the internet you must expect comments of all kinds surely.

Also anyone who is really into their health would not, what ever the circumstances put silicone into their bodies. The dangers are well known - cancer, arthritis, auto immune disease etc.

Do not misunderstand me - this young woman is free to do what ever she wants with her body but it does seem a little at odds with her new found health mantra - anyway I am only responding to what has been written here in previous posts.

Of course we know that 811 people eat greens, seeds etc - we could hardly fail to know it if one regularly reads these boards and anyway I have the book. But really in that video Durain leads and prompts all the way - Freelee is not a good subject to interview - it is not her forte -



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flipperjan,

I don't think the photo was posted to allow people to make rude observations about her anatomy, and to attack the poster(we're not supposed to call people idiots here, right?). Durian is very adamant about his views, no kidding. But this does not give us the right to be insulting. In any case, Freelee's photo is there to illustrate that this canard that's going around now, inexplicably, that fruit makes you fat is just that--a canard. It originated at paleo sites, and it's disturbing to me that it's appearing here now. Even if one isn't high fruit, one should beware of "memes" coming from elsewhere.

powerlifer,

There is no indication that she makes a habit of eating just one thing all day, every day. He asked her what she "ate today," for the purposes of the video. That's all. It's kind of ridiculous how much controversy this thread has generated!

that's what i said we dont know how regular it is, all my opinion stated was im not sure why she does it, its not really a healthy or varied act restricting to one food and seems pretty pointless overall.

just my 2 cents. If someone was just eating all meat or one food id like to know why also and what it was meant to achieve. Even if it was only for one day. If i came on here making a video just eating nothing but spirulina all day, or just nuts it would be the same.



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Sounds like a couple of people here are a bit jealous err I mean dehydrated. Here, have a drink on me.

Although I agree Nino's comments are inappropriate in the the way he framed them, it is accurate to state that silicon is extremely unhealthy for humans, and powerlifers statements are completely reasonable, to be completely frank, most people out there are pretty stupid, hence why the term "sheeple" gets thrown about so freely around here, last time I checked, that is worse than calling some one an Idiot (although I disagree with calling anybody either in the majority of circumstances) and there are a lot of people, that upon seeing such a video, are going to try it... I even had a friend that heard something about veggie juice containing everything she needs to be healthy, and so almost all she consumes is v8 and is wondering why she feels like crap... (ive tried telling her, but she wont listen,lol...ironic huh?)

I personally do not think that Durianrider is an idiot, or anything similar, I think he is a man who believes passionately in what he believes, and believes his beliefs are the best and only way for everyone to be as healthy as possible... Personally, I am not a fan of him because of this, BUT I understand his passion, and although I strongly dislike the way he acts at times, I am happy that he is so happy with his life choices, but that doesn't mean everyone else should be, some people feel as passionately about their beliefs as he does, and when he attacks them, its normal to expect at least some to respond with such vitriol, so although I do not condone such cheap and petty behavior, I understand that they are acting they way they are, for the exact same reasons Harley acts the way he does...

I guess my point is harley, is that if somebody acts like nino does, im sure you can understand that it is not because they hate you, or because they are anti-vegan, but because they have firmly held beliefs like you, and are reacting about the same as Ive seen you react towards people who attack your beliefs, you just tend to be better at the counter-attack than most, more practice maybe,lol.

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Exactly curator well stated, many people don't have the knowledge that we do on here to be so educated on nutrition, health and have a wealth of info at out fingertips. Some are desperate also and will try any diet at times to loose weight in many cases unhealthy and they end up putting it back on.

My mates mum is a good example, she barely knows how to use the internet so no forums etc, but my mate will stick her on youtube and she'll watch all the weight loss videos most of them crazy ads for slimming pills.

Its nothing to do with jealousy like i already said i think she looks good.

Whoa, what's with the soft porn? I don't care what's being promoted here, that's the kind of outfit you wear for a boyfriend in private. Sheesh!

Jealousy is a curse.

That is very convenient to say isn't it? And if a women doesn't like you it's because she's frigid or a lesbian, is that what you say?
Dude, have you seen me? I used to model too, I'm fine as a fox but I Don't have to show it off to the internet, that's trashy.

"Jealousy is a curse."

And idiocy is a legacy that lasts a lifetime...

Come on Harley, you go too far....

And this is coming from a high fruit eater...

p.s. I usually stay out of these threads, but sometimes someone has to speak up for those that don't enter the fray and hurl shite around!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/02/2011 02:41AM by klomasius.

Apologies, I think I was suffering from a lack of glucose to the brain when I typed that. My sentiment still stands, I'd just normally put it a little nicer...