Any one have a good un-bias article about his natural therapy. Thought I remembered one here but could not find anything. Did a search on the web but to much junk to read through. Thanks in advance

I know that about junk, most of it is about Ahston Kutcher... I would be interested in it too.. like who was he reading, etc..

No, but if memory serves, the book "Steve Jobs", mentions him going to some California clinic for natural treatments, though its actual name is never identified. At the time, I was thinking The Gerson Clinic in San Diego, but based on nothing. The next movie on Steve Jobs based on Walter Issacson's book may tell more as it's supposed to cover through his illness & death.

I do know that he contacted Patricia Bragg sometime after his original diagnosis in the Fall of 2004, and she went to see him at his Palo Alto, CA home; a picture of them in Steve Jobs' backyard may still be on the Bragg.com website.

Here are 2 articles from my file on Pancreatic Cancer...

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A Tragic Decision That May Have Cost Steve Jobs His Life?

[www.drmcdougall.com]
Why Did Steve Jobs Die?

Here is my File Preview on these 2 articles...

• A Tragic Decision That May Have Cost Steve Jobs His Life?
• Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez on Steve Jobs
• Steve Jobs, co-founder of Apple, died on October 5 from complications of pancreatic cancer. While Jobs seems to have received the best care possible, even some conventional oncologists question the decision to perform a liver transplant, stating that this procedure and the subsequent immuno-suppressant anti-rejection drugs he had to take was, perhaps, a fatal mistake.
• Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez is an internationally known expert on the natural treatment of pancreatic cancer was interviewed for his take on the treatment Steve received and an attempt to put it proper context.
• What Did Steve Jobs Die From?
• Pancreatic cancer is one of the faster spreading cancers; only about 4 percent of patients can expect to survive five years after their diagnosis. Each year, about 44,000 new cases are diagnosed in the U.S., and 37,000 people die of the disease. Although cancer of the pancreas has a terrible prognosis--half of all patients with locally advanced pancreatic cancer die within 10 months of the diagnosis; half of those in whom it has metastasized die within six months--cancer in the pancreas is not necessarily a death sentence.
• The pancreas contains two types of glands: exocrine glands that produce enzymes that break down fats and proteins, and endocrine glands that make hormones like insulin that regulate sugar in the blood. Jobs died of tumors originating in the endocrine glands, which are among the rarer forms of pancreatic cancer. Unlike pancreatic cancer, with neuroendocrine cancer, if you catch it early, there is a real potential for cure. His cancer was detected during an abdominal scan in October 2003, as Fortune magazine reported in a 2008 cover story.
• It is widely believed in conventional medicine that surgery can lead to long-term survival. Despite the expert consensus on the value of surgery, Jobs did not elect it right away. He reportedly spent nine months on "alternative therapies," including what Fortune called "a special diet."
• But when a scan showed that the original tumor had grown, he finally had it removed on July 31, 2004, at Stanford University Medical Clinic. He underwent an operation called a modified Whipple procedure, or a pancreatoduodenectomy, which removes the right side of the pancreas, the gallbladder, and parts of the stomach, bile duct, and small intestine, which was a strong suggestion that his cancer had spread beyond the pancreas.
• Within five years, it was clear that Jobs was not cured. In April of 2004 Jobs flew to Switzerland and underwent an experimental procedure called peptide receptor radionuclide therapy (PRRT). It involves delivering radiation to tumor cells by attaching one of two radioactive isotopes to a drug that mimics somatostatin, the hormone that regulates the entire endocrine system and the secretion of other hormones.
• This treatment apparently failed, as shortly after that he had a liver transplant at Methodist University Hospital in Memphis. This is likely because the cancer had spread from the pancreas to his liver. Liver transplants are a well-established treatment for tumors that originate in that organ BUT it is very uncommon to remove the liver for metastatic cancer.
• This is not routinely done for two primary reasons. The first is that it in no way, shape, or form addresses the original cancer, and it can easily spread to the new liver. But more importantly, he had to be placed on large doses of drugs to suppress his immune system so he would not reject his new liver. Tragically this is the very system your body uses to help control cancers. The liver has enormous regenerative capacity, and if they only removed the portion of his liver that contained the malignant cells, he would not have to take those dangerous anti-rejection drugs.
• Conventional cancer experts disagree with the approach that was taken for Steve.
• " In contrast, with a liver transplant "the overall costs and complications ... override its benefits, especially when compared with partial [removal of the liver]." Indeed, liver transplants for metastatic cancer "have been largely abandoned," says Columbia's Chabot, because the immune-suppressing, anti-rejection drugs "lead to such a high recurrence rate.
• Interestingly, it appears Steve was not given any chemotherapy or radiation treatments after his liver transplant, which undoubtedly contributed to his living over seven years after his surgery.
• Was there Another Option for Steve's Cancer?
• However, the biggest issue may have been the decision to have a liver transplant and go on the anti-rejection drugs. Conventional oncologists are stating that was, perhaps, a mistake.
• I thought it would be helpful to interview an expert in the natural treatment of cancer on this so I contacted Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez, who is widely known for his work with pancreatic cancer. I previously interviewed Dr. Gonzalez about his remarkable cancer program, in which he discussed the details of his history and the therapeutic approaches he employs-with a rate of success that is entirely unheard of in conventional medicine, I might add.
• As explained in our first interview, Dr. Gonzalez has been involved in the natural treatment of cancer for over 25 years, and offers really innovative therapies for this devastating disease. He's known internationally for his expertise on pancreatic cancer specifically, but his therapies have wider applications and can be applied to all forms of cancer.
• Many of his pancreatic cancer patients are still alive and well today, having survived up to 20 years... In conventional medicine, this is simply unheard of. Using the best conventional therapies we have, the typical survival rate for a pancreatic cancer patient is about 12-18 months.
• To summarize Dr. Gonzalez' program, it consists of three basic components:
Individualized diet based on nutritional (metabolic) typing
Individualized supplement program, which includes vitamins, minerals, trace elements, and pancreatic enzymes
Detoxification, which includes coffee enemas and colon cleanses
• Steve Jobs, Another Victim of Pancreatic Cancer
• There are two basic types of pancreatic cancer. The most aggressive form is adenocarcinoma, which develops in the cells that produce pancreatic enzymes (these enzymes help digest proteins, fats, and carbohydrates and eliminate toxins from your body).
• "About 95 percent of pancreatic cancers develop in the enzyme-producing cells that synthesize the main digestive enzymes of the intestinal tract," Dr. Gonzalez explains. "About five percent are developed in the endocrine component of the pancreas. The pancreas not only produces enzymes, but also produces hormones like insulin and glucagon. Cancer can develop in the insulin or other hormone-producing cells, but it's much less common. They tend to be a little less aggressive – the average survival for carcinoma of the enzyme-producing cells is probably three to six months."
• Steve Jobs had this latter version of pancreatic cancer; islet cell carcinoma, the technical term for cancer of the hormone producing cells of the pancreas.
• "He didn't have the most aggressive form," Dr. Gonzalez says. "... He's had it for many years. He had a liver transplant in Memphis about two years ago. Again, he was very secretive about what was going on... It must have meant he had a metastasis in the liver. First, he had to be treated with immunosuppressants. Whenever you have a transplanted organ, your body will tend to reject it, so you have to suppress your immune system. That's not good when you have a history of cancer, because immunosuppression can stimulate cancer growth since you're suppressing your own immune ability to fight cancer."
• It appears Steve Jobs did everything he could, conventionally and alternatively to stay alive. As Dr. Gonzalez states, money certainly wasn't a limiting factor in his treatment.
• "A procedure like that can run several hundred thousand dollars, at least. So my assumption, having treated pancreatic cancer for over two decades, he probably had metastasis in the liver, and it was a somewhat desperate attempt to try to keep it under control, although it would be ultimately futile. There's always the possibility of some kind of liver failure for reasons other than cancer that might have led him to a liver transplant, such as a medication reaction, hepatitis C from transfusion or something. But again, the reasons have never been publicly released, so we don't know. But most likely, he had metastasis in the liver."
• Many Cancer Patients Shun Natural Cancer Treatment Options
• According to Dr. Gonzalez, Jobs was seeing an acupuncturist who was very anxious for him to contact Dr. Gonzalez for advice. Dr. Gonzalez has been successfully treating cancer patients for over two decades.
• "One of my great patients is a fellow from Michigan who had islet cell carcinoma that, at the time of diagnosis in 1995, had already metastasized to his liver. He went to the Mayo clinic, where everything was confirmed; he had CAT scans and biopsies... To the Mayo clinic's credit... if they know that a therapy isn't going to be useful, they don't promote it, whereas a lot of oncologists will promote therapies that are worthless.
• The Mayo clinic told him chemo wouldn't do anything for him... There was really nothing they could do. He started with me in 1995, shortly after his diagnosis. He's alive and well now, 16 years later. CAT scans beginning around 2000 showed total resolution of his big tumors. He had a huge tumor in the pancreas -- it must have been around 6 centimeters. And then he had a big tumor, right under the liver. All these are gone."
• Celebrity Patients and 'Star' Oncologists
• Jobs is not the only celebrity who did everything he could through the conventional paradigm, which tragically has an abysmal success rate.
• "Michael Landon actually did consult with me," Dr. Gonzalez says, "but he never did the therapy. His press agent, Harry Flynn, became a very good friend. Harry and I remain friends to this day, and this goes back to 20 years ago. As soon as a successful celebrity gets cancer, the conventional predators come out of the woodwork-and they say that alternative doctors are sitting there like predators, trying to lure unsuspecting cancer patients into their lairs. You know, I've been in the alternative world for a long time, and I've come out of this very conventional research. But I don't see a whole of that in the alternative world.
• What I do see is conventional doctors doing exactly what they criticize in alternative doctors. Landon was treated by an "eminent oncologist" from Cedars-Sinai, who held a press conference. The first thing conventional doctors do when they get a celebrity is to hold a press conference. To me it's almost like narcissism, just to show how important they are with all these celebrities coming to them. This is even if they know they can't do anything. He gave Landon an experimental chemo, but he was dead in three months."
• As Dr. Gonzalez points out, conventional doctors can fail miserably and still be considered heroes. Alternative doctors, even the most successful ones, are still looked upon with great suspicion if not disdain. Upon Landon's death, his oncologist held another press conference, and Landon's widow was impressed with how "hard" his doctor had worked to treat her dying husband.
• "You see, when a conventional oncologist loses a celebrity patient, they portray him as a hero fighting this terrible disease against the enormous odds; working late into the night trying to keep the celebrity alive," Dr. Gonzalez says. "But when an alternative practitioner loses a patient, they consider him a sleazy quack getting money from unsuspecting cancer victims.
• ... The same thing was true, more recently, with Patrick Swayze. He had a very aggressive pancreatic cancer. Stanford oncologists doing his treatment held press conferences routinely... filled with this kind of joyful optimism that "they're going to help." He was gone in 18 months. Friends of his are actually patients of mine, but he absolutely had no interest in alternative medicine. He was very conventional – used "the best doctors" from Stanford."
• Misplaced Blame-The Case of Steve McQueen and Dr. Kelley
• Dr. Gonzalez' mentor, Dr. Kelley (who developed the cancer program Dr. Gonzalez now uses), treated Steve McQueen. McQueen ultimately died, although he lasted almost a year under Dr. Kelley's care.
• "He was terminal when he came to Dr. Kelley," Dr. Gonzalez says. "He had failed radiation, failed immunotherapy. He had been misdiagnosed for a year. The reason he ended up with Stage 4 mesothelioma is because he was misdiagnosed by his fancy conventional doctors in Southern California.
• Then they gave him radiation – there's not a study in the history of the world showing that radiation helps in mesothelioma; they gave it anyway. Then they gave him immunotherapy. There's not a study in the history of the world saying that immunotherapy helps in mesothelioma. They did it anyway. Then he was dying and he went to see Kelley. He died, and Kelley got all the blame-not the doctors who misdiagnosed him! In fact when you read the newspaper articles, there are still articles about how Dr. Kelley killed McQueen.
• No, cancer killed McQueen.
• You see, an oncologist at Sloan-Kettering can do a bone marrow transplant on celebrity patients. They die, and he's written up like a hero... Kelley tries to help after conventional doctors failed miserably and misdiagnosed him, and McQueen lived longer than he should. (He was a half-compliant patient – he continued to smoke, drink, and eat ice cream.) I told Kelley when I first met him, "The biggest mistake you've made with McQueen is you took him as a patient. You should have told him to hit the trail."
• Dr. Kelley is now dead. But 30 years later, he still gets blamed for McQueen's death. About two or three years ago, there was an Op-Ed piece in the Wall Street Journal attacking unconventional cancer therapy. They talked about McQueen, and how Kelley killed him. ... Conventional oncologists lose patients every day, and no one says they're murdering anybody. Instead they're considered heroes for trying so hard."
• As Dr. Gonzalez says, it's not even a double standard; it's like being in an alternative Universe. If you're a conventional oncologist, you can do no wrong, you're lauded as a hero despite your failures, and you make a lot of money making them. Meanwhile, alternative practitioners may succeed again and again, and still be considered dangerous quacks. This is a mindset that has absolutely nothing to do with scientific validity, objectivity, or evaluation of data. It really falls into a category more reminiscent of religious fervor.
• Conventional Medicine as a Religion
• So, how did we get to this point? Why does this situation exist when it's so illogical?
• "Conventional academic medicine is the last religion left in America," Dr. Gonzalez says.
• "So the way you have to look at medicine is not as a scientific profession, but rather a religious profession... It has its irrational beliefs. It has its own special language. It has its tools, it has its rituals. ... The fact that they don't make us better is ignored. Landon died, Patrick Swayze died, Linda McCartney died; I could list 20 celebrities who are dead because they went the conventional route. Why didn't they do my therapy?
• Because I don't have a temple. I don't even own a white coat... Michael Landon picked that up right away. In fact, his press agent, Harry Flynn, wanted him to come and see me... [But] one of Landon's comments about me was that I "wasn't fancy enough." So he went to the priesthood. He went to Cedars-Sinai."
• Meanwhile, Dr. Gonzalez has patients who were diagnosed with pancreatic cancer at the same time as Michael Landon, who are still alive today. His oldest survivor began the program in 1988.
• "We have multiple patients with metastatic pancreatic cancer who have done well," Dr. Gonzalez says. "It's interesting: I do have very world-renowned celebrities as patients. But no one knows who they are; no one knows they have cancer. The reason for that is because they didn't die, and we don't hold press conferences. They're doing their program and doing well with their lives.
• We tell our patients: don't make cancer your life. Move on with your life. So they're back acting in movies, doing talk shows and that kind of stuff. No one knows they even had cancer. And that's fine with me. Some of them keep it secret because of the career thing, and they don't want the publicity. I understand that. So my successful patients who are celebrities, nobody knows who they are because they got well and they're just doing their job."
• Now, it's important to stress that this is not a conspiracy.
• The physicians who promote the conventional approach do so because they truly believe it's the right thing to do; the only thing that has any chance of working. Healing cancer with foods and coffee enemas seems ludicrous when compared to the most advanced drug cocktails. If the most potent toxins can't kill the cancer, how in the world could you get rid of the cancer with nutrients? They've bought the conventional paradigm hook line and sinker, and they promote it not just for their patients, but for themselves and their families as well. And they suffer the same consequences as their patients.
• "They grow up with the bias that drugs are the way to go. It's how they're trained; it's imprinted in their brain in medical school. It's like mind control – it's what they believe. They just can't believe anything else. They go to their graves believing it – often to their discredit, unfortunately.
• Many conventional physicians are also in just as poor a health as their patients. However, there are signs that the tide is slowly about to shift.
• "We get calls from doctors now, asking us about nutrition and what supplements they should take," Dr. Gonzalez says. "There's been a big change in the last few years. Fifteen years ago it didn't happen, and now it's starting to happen."
• For More Information
• For more information about Dr. Gonzalez and his practice, see www.dr-gonzalez.com.
• A Special Interview with Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez
• Alternative Pancreatic Cancer Treatment
• DG: Yeah, we’re known for our treating pancreatic cancer. Our research studies have been involved with pancreatic cancer, which has good success and is considered one of the, if not the most aggressive forms of cancer (among the two or three most aggressive). We have patients who have been with us for 22 years.
If you just want me to sum up my program, there are three basic components:
Individualized Diet (Diets for pure vegetarians or of meat, depending on metabolism of the patient). The second is individualized Supplement programs for doses of pancreatic enzymes, vitamins, and minerals. Again, we’re precisely prescribing for each patient, and doses vary from patient to patient. We don’t think that vitamins and minerals have a particular anti-cancer effect, but we used to treat cancer specifically with large doses of pancreatic enzymes, which conventional medicine are thought only to help with digestion. But there’s evidence that goes back to a hundred years that those pancreatic protein digestive enzymes – the same enzymes we use every day to digest our protein foods – have an anti-cancer effect and may represent the body’s main defense again cancer. My average cancer patient takes probably 100 to 110 capsules of pancreatic enzymes a day.
The third component, the first component - Diet, second - Supplements and Enzymes, the third component is Detoxification routines – these are simple procedures like Coffee Enemas that help the body mobilize, neutralize, and excrete the toxic debris that results from the repair of a damaged body and the killing of the tumor. You kill a tumor, that’s wonderful. You get all the tumor debris floating around the body can be quite poisonous. Things like coffee enemas help the liver work better. All these toxic wastes from tumor destruction are processed for the liver, and it enhances the ability of the body to get rid of this debris. So that’s the program.
• Steve Jobs and Cancer
• DG: In terms of pancreatic cancer, you know, Jobs had violent cell carcinoma. There are two basic types of pancreatic cancer. The most aggressive form, which is the one we tend to think about, is adrenal carcinoma, which develops actually in the cells that produce pancreatic enzymes – ironically. About 95 percent of pancreatic cancers develop in those cells, in the enzyme-producing cells or the ducts that carry the enzymes into the intestinal tract. About five percent are developed in the endocrine component of the pancreas. The pancreas not only produces enzymes, but also produces hormones like insulin and glucagon. Cancer can develop in the endocrine-producing cells, they’re much less common, only 5% perhaps of all pancreatic cancers are islet cell carcinomas. They tend to be a little less aggressive – the average survival for carcinoma of the enzyme-producing cells is probably three to six months. The islet cells - patients can last a couple of years, usually, invariably, though it progresses and eventually the patients die. There was a Sloan-Kettering series some years ago where they had some patients that lived as long as four years. But very rarely do they live longer. So it’s rare, it’s less aggressive, but inevitably, it proves deadly.
• DG: Yeah, he had islet cell carcinoma. He didn’t have the most aggressive form, although I don’t want to downplay the fact that islet cell can progress. Although patients can live longer as he has (certainly he’s lived longer that Patrick Swayze or Michael Landon who had a more aggressive adenocarcinoma of the enzyme-producing cells). But they tend to live longer; he’s had it for many years. He had a liver transplant in Memphis about two years ago. Again, he’s been very secretive about what’s going on. He takes a leave of absence because he’s got the flu, but everyone knows it’s not because he’s got the flu or he’s got work. It’s because he’s fighting cancer and he ends up in Memphis to get a liver transplant. And that must have meant he has a metastasis in the liver.
Of course, that means he had to be on immunosuppressants. Whenever you have to transplanted organ, the body would tend to reject it, so you have to suppress the immune system. That’s not good when you have a history of cancer, because immunosuppression can stimulate cancer growth because you’re suppressing your own immune ability to fight cancer.
So it seems like he did everything he could, and he certainly had unlimited resources to do whatever he needed to do. Getting liver transplant – that’s pretty expensive stuff.
• DG: One of my great patients is a fellow from Michigan who had islet cell carcinoma that at the time of diagnosis in 1995, he already had metastasized to the liver. And he showed up at the Mayo clinic, where everything was confirmed and he had CAT scans and biopsies. The biopsy was originally done at his local hospital, and he ended up at a Mayo clinic in Rochester, Minnesota. They confirmed that it was islet cell carcinoma.
And to the Mayo clinic’s credit… you know, I really respect the Mayo clinic. Not that they’re good at what they do in conventional medicine. But if they know that a therapy isn’t going to be useful, they don’t promote it, whereas a lot of oncologists will promote therapies that are worthless to patients knowing that it’s not going to do something.
The Mayo clinic told them chemo won’t do anything for him, that if he got really symptomatic, they might use a palliative, but they have no illusions about it. And I told the patient – I actually discouraged him from getting chemo. I’ve seen this happen at the Mayo clinic a number of times… they discourage the use of chemo. There was really nothing they can do.
He started with me in 1995, shortly after his diagnosis. He’s alive and well now, 16 years later. CAT scans beginning around 2000 showed total resolution of his big tumors. He had a huge tumor in the pancreas -- it must have been around 6 centimeters. And then he had a big whopping tumor, right at the Port of Patas where the veins come into the liver – I mean a big tumor. All of it is gone; he’s in excellent health. He’s enjoying his life, running his business, and just having a wonderful time. He’s been well for 16 years now. He’s gone remarkably, remarkably well.
• Celebrity Patients and ‘Star’ Oncologists
• DG: Michael Landon actually did consult with me, but he never did the therapy. His press agent, Harry Flynn, became a very good friend. Harry and I remain friends to this day, and this goes back to 20 years ago.
As soon as a successful celebrity gets cancer, the conventional predators come out of the woodwork. And they say that alternative doctors are sitting there like predators, trying to lure unsuspecting cancer victims into their lairs to steal their money and put a vacuum cleaner in the wallet. Well, I’ve been in the alternative world for a long time, and I’ve come out of this very conventional research background. I don’t see a whole of that in the alternative world. What I do see is conventional doctors do exactly what they criticize in alternative doctors. The vacuum cleaner goes into in the wallet so fast.
Landon was treated by an eminent oncologist (quote, end quote) from Cedars-Sinai, who held a press conference. The first thing conventional doctors do when they get a celebrity is to hold a press conference. To me it’s almost like narcissism, just to show how important they are with all these celebrities coming to them. This is even though they know they couldn’t do anything. He gave them an experimental chemo, but he was dead in three months. If I had a patient who died in three months, I’d walk in front of a bus.
• Conventional Medicine as a Religion
• The Role of Diet and Nutrition
• DM: We both promote the same approach to diet, which is Metabolic Typing. In our case, we rephrased it to Nutritional Typing just to make it more palatable from a word perspective.
• DG: I understand Metabolic Typing doesn’t really mean anything to the average person.
We have different diets for different people, but as I’ve always said, even though we have complicated, sophisticated tests to help us determine the diet that the patient needs, your proclivity to the food you like tend to tell you a lot. You know meat eaters love meat, they love pot roast – we’ve discussed this before. Vegetarians love to hate meat; they love fruits and vegetables.
Balanced people always want a lot of different foods: fruits, vegetables, but also red meat and fish, poultry, not as much red meat as a meat eater would want. The Eskimos lived on nothing but fatty red meat – that’s all they wanted to eat – that’s what they’re designed to eat. So you can tell by the foods you like. If you like fatty red meat with the fat and you salivate over it, you’re probably a meat eater – almost a guarantee. If that makes you gag and what you really want for lunch is a piece of fruit and salad, you’re on the vegetarian side. If you can get by doing that and work a full day, you’re on the vegetarian side. So you can tell by your own proclivities.
But whether you’re a meat eater, vegetarian, or balanced, you need to eat the cleanest food possible. No one should be eating pesticides. Pesticides are neurotoxins – that’s how they kill insects. You don’t want to be taking that stuff in eight times a day. Every time you get an apple, you get a load of neurotoxins. Not smart. The cleaner the food, the better. Even conventional scientists are now starting to accept that organic food is more nutritious and probably healthier. So start eating clean food. You can go by your own preferences.

• Why Did Steve Jobs Die?
• Jobs’ Cancer Began and Metastasized When He Was a Young Man
• Cancer Caused Steve Jobs Troubles in His Thirties and Forties
• Lead (Pb) and Other Carcinogens from Computers Caused Jobs’ Cancer
• Job’s Vegan Diet Prolonged His Life
• The Ultimate Insult: Jobs Was Forced to Eat Meat
• Summary Comments

Peace and Love..........John

Thanks, John - I read the whole thing. I wonder if he had eaten Organic Apples from the beginning, would the cancer have gone away. I wrote down the name and address of Dr. Gonzalez in case anyone I know ends up needing an alternative cancer doctor. I hate to hear that phrase "The FIGHT Against Cancer". Cancer patients can Fight all they want to, but if they get chemotherapy and radiation, they'll lose the fight or at least screw themselves up.

Since the original question was asked, but not answered, as to which "natural" remedies Jobs tried for 9 months. following is part of a paragraph from the best-selling book by Walter Isaacson, "Steve Jobs", which should answer that question:

"Specifically, he kept a strict vegan diet, with large quantities of fresh carrot and fruit juices. To that regimen he added acupuncture, a variety of herbal remedies, and occasionally a few other treatments he found on the internet, including a psychic. For awhile he was under the sway of a doctor who operated a natural healing clinic in southern California that stressed the use of organic herbs, juice fasts, frequent bowel cleansings, hydrotherapy, and the expression of negative feelings." (Chapter Thirty-Five "CANCER".

The author was specifically picked by Jobs to write his bio, and had access to family members, Apple executives & competitors, and particularly, and more importantly, Steve Jobs himself.

KidRaw, if things are left too late and there is too much damage done to the specific organs or parts of the body, in a lot of cases it's just too late - even with fasting, juicing, organic apples, or whatever, etc. That's why it's important to look after the body while we are still well, but that's easier said than done, and don't I know it!!! Also, Steve Jobs smoked a lot of dope in his early life and who knows what he ate, or how else he mistreated and abused his body?

JR, how can you say with any authority that the vegan diet prolonged his life?? A vegan diet is not the same as a healthy diet. Just because someone is a vegan, as opposed to someone following a much healthier diet and lifestyle and eats a small amount of animal product doesn't mean following a vegan diet is a healthier life choice. Let's not confuse so called '' ethical '' eating with healthy eating.

<<<JR, how can you say with any authority that the vegan diet prolonged his life??>>>

Hey BJ,

I did NOT say that!!! Dr. McDougall said it in the link [www.drmcdougall.com] I posted above and is only part of my File Preview.

Here is the section from that article...

Job’s Vegan Diet Prolonged His Life

Jobs became a vegetarian in his freshman year at Reed College in Portland, Oregon.(36) He would at times eat only fruit, and considered himself a fruitarian.(63, 68, 83) He was a lifelong strict vegan (no animal foods), except for occasional lapses.(91, 155, 260, 458, 527, 528) Jobs often became very upset when his meals were not prepared to his specifications. When a waiter at a restaurant served him a sauce with sour cream, Jobs got nasty.(185). He was observed to “spit out a mouthful of soup one day after he learned that it contained butter.”(260)

Throughout most of his life he was considered a “prickly, whip-thin vegetarian.”(243) He was described as looking “rather like a boxer, aggressive and elusively graceful, or like an elegant jungle cat ready to spring at its prey.”(297) However, most of his family, friends, and coworkers did not understand or sympathize with Jobs’ vegan diet.

His diet was in sharp contrast to that of his Apple co-founder, Steve Wozniak, who ate at Denny’s and whose favorite foods were typical American pizzas and burgers.(189) Wozniak, who is overweight, was four years older than Jobs and is still alive. Because of this apparent paradox many people discount the importance of a healthy vegan diet.

After he developed cancer Jobs remembered some of his earlier teachings about the benefits of low-protein vegetarian diets for cancer.(548) I believe Jobs was right, and a healthy low-fat vegan diet will slow the growth (doubling times) of a cancer and prolong a patient’s life. However, animal fats, animal proteins, vegetable oils, and vegetarian foods made with isolated soy proteins can promote cancer growth. Steve Jobs ate in restaurants often. His vegan diet was likely too high in vegetable oils and “fake” meats and cheeses (foods with high amounts of isolated soy proteins).

Peace and Love..........John

I also read that he was a pescetarian --

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According to the "Steve Jobs" bio, this is true. He didn't eat meat, though he occasionally ate seafood. Isaacson mentions eating in a restaurant with Steve & family members. After Steve had sent back fresh-squeezed orange juice 3 times as not good enough, he ate part of Isaacson's crab salad, then ordered one for himself. He apparently would eat eggs for protein during his cancer troubles---Isaacson mentions stopping at a café with Jobs one night where Steve ate an omelet. HOWEVER, there is absolutely NO evidence that Jobs was FORCED to eat meat as JR claims above. But perhaps he or his sources have evidence of this?

BTW, what I find interesting about Jobs is, although he was plainly in love with various health diets & fasting from an early age, there is no indication that any form of exercise went along with it. Nothing about running/jogging/weight training/tennis/skiing/biking/whatever has been mentioned that I've run across. Very unusual, but please correct me if I missed something

John, it's hard to know when you are commenting and when you are quoting! Even in your last post I don't know which are your comments, as opposed to your referencing. At least the statemnt was qualified to a ' healthy vegan diet '.

KFCA, in our modern society for a lot of people vigourous exercise is not necessary to achieve a long healthy active life. ADequate amount of activity is often good enough for people who don't eat more than their body can handle easily.

If eating the occasional piece of meat, fish or eggs was such a problem then the other Steve should have been dead a long time ago. Unless you understand the paradox of the two Steves as stated above, then you will try and look at things in simple simplistic terms, and that's not the reality of the human body and the human race as it exists now.

Most of the health promoters on the internet are only interested in making money, not in getting people healthy.

<<<HOWEVER, there is absolutely NO evidence that Jobs was FORCED to eat meat as JR claims above.>>>

Hey KFCA,

First of all, thanks for giving more details "to which "natural" remedies Jobs tried for 9 months," HOWEVER, I did NOT claim that "Jobs was FORCED to eat meat"!!! Dr. McDougall made that claim in the link [www.drmcdougall.com] I posted above and is only part of my File Preview - see the first part of my original Post below.

Here is the section from that article and you'll notice that "Jobs eventually did succumb to these intense demands and ate seafood and eggs" as you pointed out above, which to me is NOT the same thing I think of when I think of meat...

The Ultimate Insult: Jobs Was Forced to Eat Meat

“One of the side effects of the operation would become a problem for Jobs because of his obsessive diets and the weird routine of purging and fasting that he had practiced since he was a teenager. Because the pancreas provides the enzymes that allow the stomach to digest food and absorb nutrients, removing part of the organ makes it hard to get enough protein.”(455) He was advised to eat meat and fish.(455) Lack of protein in Jobs’ diet was not his problem, however his friends, family, biographer, nutritionist, and physicians would not stop attacking his weird obsession with extremely restrictive diets.(477) Jobs lost 40, and then eventually 50 pounds, which was from the partial loss of his pancreas from the initial surgery, the use of morphine to control his pain, his chemotherapies, his liver transplant surgery and drugs used to suppress organ rejection.(477) Until his death, his doctors begged him to consume high quality protein.(548) Obviously the insistence that he eat animal foods made no difference at all in his health; and part of the reason is that the advice was incorrect.

“Powell (Jobs’ wife) had been a vegan when they were first married, but after her husband’s operation she began to diversify their family diet with fish and other proteins.”(477) Jobs eventually did succumb to these intense demands and ate seafood and eggs.(527,528) For the false hope that eating animals would help, he was forced to turn his back on what he knew to be good for his body, his religious beliefs, and his concerns for the welfare of animals and the environment.

The overall consensus was, and still is, that Jobs acted selfishly, stupidly, and irresponsibly by being a vegan. But, he lived more than 30 years with cancer of the pancreas. (His medical treatments did little or nothing to prolong his life, and caused him great misery at huge expense.)
[www.drmcdougall.com]

<<<John, it's hard to know when you are commenting and when you are quoting! Even in your last post I don't know which are your comments, as opposed to your referencing.>>>

BJ,

Yes, many times I do add my Comments to my File Previews, but this time I was VERY explicit when I said - Here is my File Preview on these 2 articles...

Here is the first part of my original Post...

Here are 2 articles from my file on Pancreatic Cancer...

[articles.mercola.com]
A Tragic Decision That May Have Cost Steve Jobs His Life?

[www.drmcdougall.com]
Why Did Steve Jobs Die?

Here is my File Preview on these 2 articles...

...see above...

Of course, had you gone to the links and actually read the articles, there would have been NO doubt!

<<<Most of the health promoters on the internet are only interested in making money, not in getting people healthy.>>>

I don't think that's true for most people in the Raw Food Movement. I struggled with the concept of making money in the beginning until I realized that the more money I made the more lives I saved!!! In the beginning, I made the mistake of giving my time away for FREE and that’s what most people thought it was worth - NOTHING!!! And then, as I increased my fees over the years because I kept learning and acquired more Knowledge, the harder my students worked to make sure they got their money’s worth. When you compare how much I charge compared to the Medical System, it’s only a fraction of the cost and the big difference is that I get results and they do NOT!!!

Peace and Love..........John

Thanks John Rose