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Re: karma
Posted by: CommonSenseRaw ()
Date: January 24, 2014 12:12PM

Interesting video. The grading is by your higher self. you know your grade.

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Re: karma
Posted by: RawPracticalist ()
Date: January 24, 2014 07:19PM

‘corporations are people’

It is strange that when someone dies, we say "His body was buried here". We do not say "He was buried here". Maybe we are the higher self that goes on after death.



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Re: karma
Posted by: RawPracticalist ()
Date: January 24, 2014 07:32PM

In most parts of the world, you are judged by a judge when you do wrong.

In the american judicial system, you are judged by a jury of your peers.

But in every day life, you are judged by yourself, your higher self, your conscience. And that is how God wants it.

You set your own punishment, your own karma.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/24/2014 07:34PM by RawPracticalist.

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Re: karma
Posted by: la_veronique ()
Date: January 24, 2014 11:02PM

storm

<<It cam be somehwat hard to be able to judge accurately when the symbols, concepts etc that have been given to us by which we interpret the world is set up to trap us. The 'mind' of the crowd under mind control can easily overwrite the individual's belief systems.

We literally have to make up our selves from nothing, and that's probably why meditation is so important.>>

bingo

either you program yourself 24/7/365
deprogram yourself ( meditation etc.)
or

you will continue to be programmed

yep , that is the reality ( for better or for worse )

and you can either launch endless diatribes against that reality
and display evidence of all the external programmers and their programs
and continue to be in their thrall
forever and ever and ever

or you can roll up your sleeves
get busy
and start rewriting your OWN programs
for your own system
deprogram yourself ( meditation helps)
diligently rewire your own circuitry
and get with the program

you always have a choice

and no one ever said it was easy

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Re: karma
Posted by: CommonSenseRaw ()
Date: January 24, 2014 11:08PM

Even when you let other people program you, you are still making a choice, your are still responsible, you are still making your karma.
You cannot escape being your own master.
It was your decision to let them decide for you.



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Re: karma
Posted by: CommonSenseRaw ()
Date: January 24, 2014 11:28PM

Did you ever consider that the child may have chosen to be born that way?

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Re: karma
Posted by: CommonSenseRaw ()
Date: January 24, 2014 11:40PM

Life is a choice. [www.amazon.com]

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Re: karma
Posted by: CommonSenseRaw ()
Date: January 24, 2014 11:44PM

Many of the answers are in this book. [www.amazon.com]

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Re: karma
Posted by: CommonSenseRaw ()
Date: January 24, 2014 11:59PM

There were innocent? are you sure?

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Re: karma
Posted by: CommonSenseRaw ()
Date: January 25, 2014 12:30AM

There are so many cases of children being born in poor families, without a father or a mother, they had almost nothing and yet many of them went on to become great.

How many children from rich parents amount to nothing unable to even hold on to their parent wealth?

So it is not how you were born but who you are inside.

Many of the Apostles were put in prison during their service but they were never really in prison, through prayer and meditation the prison walls did not exist.



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Re: karma
Posted by: la_veronique ()
Date: January 25, 2014 12:39AM

hey storm

if you are being mind controlled

what program are you executing

right now



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Re: karma
Posted by: la_veronique ()
Date: January 25, 2014 11:33AM

storm


<<We may have chosen to incarnate here? Maybe it's not our fault but it was our choice. However much choice.>>


was that a question or an answer?

choice... that is such an interesting word
i wonder what it really means
seems so obvious until it isn't

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Re: karma
Posted by: RawPracticalist ()
Date: January 29, 2014 09:20PM

Most forgot that they had made a choice to incarnate.
That is why we are all so lost.
Forgot where we came from and where we are going.



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Re: karma
Posted by: la_veronique ()
Date: January 31, 2014 12:14AM

raw practicalist

<<Most forgot that they had made a choice to incarnate.
That is why we are all so lost.
Forgot where we came from and where we are going.>>


how else can you be found?

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Re: karma
Posted by: la_veronique ()
Date: January 31, 2014 04:43AM

Hi Raw Practicalist:

" Not all who wander are lost."

This quote is from J.R.R. Tolkien's "All that is Gold does not Glitter"



All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be blade that was broken,
The crownless again shall be king.[1]



I hope you like Tolkien's poem. I also liked " Renewed shall be blade that was broken."


a Wanderer

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Re: karma
Posted by: RawPracticalist ()
Date: January 31, 2014 06:42PM

Why is that suicide attempts among youths aged 13 through 24 years is so high? And most have wealthy parents. And some in the most prestigious schools.

Could it be that they are frustrated, lost in a world that does not respond to their inner needs. Society, and the parents push them into things that do not respond to the goals they set to accomplish on earth.

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Re: karma
Posted by: la_veronique ()
Date: February 01, 2014 07:34PM

Raw Practicalist

<<Why is that suicide attempts among youths aged 13 through 24 years is so high? And most have wealthy parents. And some in the most prestigious schools.>>

you either create your paradigm
or succumb to the existing paradigm

if someone whose reality is an utter departure from the existing paradigm and believes that the only choice they have is the latter
suicide has already been committed

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Re: karma
Posted by: jtprindl ()
Date: February 02, 2014 12:47AM

RawPracticalist Wrote:
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> Why is that suicide attempts among youths aged 13
> through 24 years is so high? And most have wealthy
> parents. And some in the most prestigious
> schools.
>
> Could it be that they are frustrated, lost in a
> world that does not respond to their inner needs.
> Society, and the parents push them into things
> that do not respond to the goals they set to
> accomplish on earth.


I think there's a lot of reasons...

1.) Many kids suffer from severe nutritional deficiencies and are brought up in homes that do not value healthy foods or are simply ignorant of the concept of nutrition and how it relates to physical and psychological health. These deficiencies, such as omega-3's, D3, B-vitamins, etc. can directly contribute to depression.

2.) Many kids are psychologically abused by other kids and in some cases by adults, making them feel worthless and depressed because nobody likes them, when in reality the problem is not them, it's the people mistreating them.

3.) Kids aren't allowed to be kids nowadays because normal child-like behavior is always coined up as some type of disease or mental disorder and they get jacked up on pharmaceutical drugs at a young age and that's when they really start to lose their mind. Many times, these drugs leave them depressed and even violent. You force young kids to sit in a classroom for 7-8 hours and then say they need drugs because they have a lot of energy? You know what ADD used to be called? Day dreaming.



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Re: karma
Posted by: RawPracticalist ()
Date: February 09, 2014 11:37PM

Reason 1 is so true.
The dying process start a early age. Babies are bottled fed milk that is already full of hormones and contaminated.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/09/2014 11:39PM by RawPracticalist.

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Re: karma
Posted by: la_veronique ()
Date: February 28, 2014 10:51AM

suicide is an interesting topic

it represents "choice"

in the midst of what is perceived as a total lack of choice

i don't know how karma relates in this matter

though there are theories

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Re: karma
Posted by: CommonSenseRaw ()
Date: February 28, 2014 12:07PM

You cannot move to the next grade until you have passed the exam of the current grade.

You cannot ride a motorcycle until you have mastered the bicycle.

You are given a precious life and you destroy all that by killing yourself.

Up there you realized the mistake you made and you are told that you cannot advance until you DO NOT KILL YOURSELF. So you pledge for a new birth and that you will not kill yourself.

You get the new birth but KARMA will make it that your life will be difficult, you will be tempted to kill yourself. Until your learn by choice that you should not kill yourself.

Why would you get a good life if you did not value it last time?

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Re: karma
Posted by: la_veronique ()
Date: February 28, 2014 04:13PM

raw practicalist


<<Why would you get a good life if you did not value it last time?>>

i don't know
i don't have any answers to that

but it is easy to see how some people would make that choice

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Re: karma
Posted by: RawPracticalist ()
Date: February 28, 2014 05:50PM

Even parents down here on earth know that.

A child who tears his clothes, trashing them will not get shiny clothes until he behaves.

Because the parents love him. Want him to change.

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Re: karma
Posted by: la_veronique ()
Date: February 28, 2014 09:36PM

oh?

hmmmm...

i see that's what you believe

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Re: karma
Posted by: Diogenez ()
Date: February 28, 2014 10:29PM

the law of dual effects.

life vs lifelessness

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Re: karma
Posted by: la_veronique ()
Date: February 28, 2014 11:19PM

law of intention

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Re: karma
Posted by: la_veronique ()
Date: March 01, 2014 12:26AM

okay

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Re: karma
Posted by: la_veronique ()
Date: March 01, 2014 05:00AM

as much as there appears to be impermanence

i see permanence

everywhere

just switching forms

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Re: karma
Posted by: la_veronique ()
Date: March 05, 2014 05:28AM

probably a really bad example ( cuz so innacurate) but nevertheless i kinda see karma like a form of impermanence changing forms

kind of like water on ocean heated by sunlight vaporized becoming mist becoming clouds becoming rain becoming ocean and the cycle continues

where did the water go?

can it ever be totally annihilated?

but yeah, this is a bad example because its not really the same but i see threads of it... sort of ... maybe someone else can do a better job explaining it

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Re: karma
Posted by: la_veronique ()
Date: March 27, 2014 09:51PM

everyone dislikes the word karma

because it seems to connote the burden of righting wrongs ( in this lifetime or another)

and who wants to do that?

one has to admit wrongs in the first place

and don't i have better things to do with my time?

isn't it simply better to just move forward

and pretend nothing ever happened?

yes

and so... its so interesting how people write books and compendiums of this topic

as if reading about it would divulge more answers than it does questions

seems so easy , right? " you get what you give"

cuz the Universe is always watching you

" you can run but you can't hide"

karma can also be good karma too

like saying a kind word to someone or being thoughtful

" no kind act is ever forgotten"

still, the idea of the Universe tallying up all the "good" and "bad"

is kinda creepy

but just cuz its creepy does not mean it is not extant

has anyone ever thought that any cause does NOT have consequences?

because isn't that what karma is all about anyhow?

a law of physics

you get what you sow

elementary

where is the dispute?

why is religion even involved?

it seems so obvious

or is it not?

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