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> Hey, jtprindl, are you not aware that most
> mushroom "superfoods" in N. America are grown
> exactly in the areas the most Fukushima fallout
> occurred and is still occurring and that mushrooms
> suck up radioactive isotopes like a sponge?
> These things are not to be recommended by people
> who know what they are talking about.


A lot of super foods are grown near Fukushima, this is the result of poor decision making by companies. It's called researching and finding the right sources.

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> > Hey, jtprindl, are you not aware that most
> > mushroom "superfoods" in N. America are grown
> > exactly in the areas the most Fukushima fallout
> > occurred and is still occurring and that
> mushrooms
> > suck up radioactive isotopes like a sponge?
> > These things are not to be recommended by
> people
> > who know what they are talking about.


>
> A lot of super foods are grown near Fukushima,
> this is the result of poor decision making by
> companies. It's called researching and finding the
> right sources.


Where is your chaga grown?



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> > > Hey, jtprindl, are you not aware that most
> > > mushroom "superfoods" in N. America are grown
> > > exactly in the areas the most Fukushima
> fallout
> > > occurred and is still occurring and that
> > mushrooms
> > > suck up radioactive isotopes like a sponge?
> > > These things are not to be recommended by
> > people
> > > who know what they are talking about.
>
>
> >
> > A lot of super foods are grown near Fukushima,
> > this is the result of poor decision making by
> > companies. It's called researching and finding
> the
> > right sources.
>
>
> Where is your chaga grown?


California

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> > > > > Hey, jtprindl, are you not aware that most
> > > > mushroom "superfoods" in N. America are
> grown
> > > > exactly in the areas the most Fukushima
> > fallout
> > > > occurred and is still occurring and that
> > > mushrooms
> > > > suck up radioactive isotopes like a sponge?
> > > > These things are not to be recommended by
> > > people
> > > > who know what they are talking about.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > A lot of super foods are grown near
> Fukushima,
> > > this is the result of poor decision making by
> > > companies. It's called researching and
> finding
> > the
> > > right sources.
> >
> >
> > Where is your chaga grown?
>
>
> California


I'm sorry. You really are ignorant of the fallout areas.

Hi Sue, I am impressed with your raw food journey and knowledge on nutrition , we can't ignore the pit falls of high fruit diet any more, Can I join you on FB, I would like to have contact with you, my id is judgears , it's a google account, please contact me if you find time.

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> > > > > > Hey, jtprindl, are you not aware that
> most
> > > > > mushroom "superfoods" in N. America are
> > grown
> > > > > exactly in the areas the most Fukushima
> > > fallout
> > > > > occurred and is still occurring and that
> > > > mushrooms
> > > > > suck up radioactive isotopes like a
> sponge?
> > > > > These things are not to be recommended by
> > > > people
> > > > > who know what they are talking about.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > A lot of super foods are grown near
> > Fukushima,
> > > > this is the result of poor decision making
> by
> > > > companies. It's called researching and
> > finding
> > > the
> > > > right sources.
> > >
> > >
> > > Where is your chaga grown?
> >
> >
> > California
>
>
> I'm sorry. You really are ignorant of the
> fallout areas.


I'm sorry, my source is tested for radiation. You were saying?

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> Hi Sue, I am impressed with your raw food journey
> and "knowledge on nutrition"


Hahahaha

"source tested for radiation"
maybe - but so did Garden of Life claim to be tested for heavy metals. they lied.



>I had fully expected that my lab work was going to be stellar and was shocked at the results. I had become prediabetic, (with no family history of that even with several sad eating obese relatives), and my lipid panel tests and some others were awful.

Depends on what you did on hclf. I had asked you a while back for the details of what you ate, how much, only when hungry, etc.

"maybe - but so did Garden of Life claim to be tested for heavy metals. they lied."

Unless you grow all of your food and know the process from start to finish, it's impossible to be 100% sure of your food being contaminated. The "organic" produce you buy at the grocery store could be laced with heavy metals, sprayed with contaminated water, exposed to heavy environmental pollution from the time it was harvested to put on the shelf, etc.



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quite a scary world you seem to live in.

I just had an orgasmic experience with a fresh barhi date.

what an amazing world this is.

just breathing is a miracle.

Suez said >I had fully expected that my lab work was going to be stellar and was shocked at the results. I had become prediabetic, (with no family history of that even with several sad eating obese relatives), and my lipid panel tests and some others were awful.


meaning what specifically?

another example...
mercola ate more fruit and his triglycerides shot up and he quit.
now he's anti fruit.
that's giving too much credit to numbers and the realities of cleansing.

especially when you feel great.

ramanan Wrote:

we can't ignore the
> pit falls of high fruit diet any more


Ramaman, here in the US there are still some old Caucasian people around who get most of their calories from fruit and all of them, who present themselves in public, have terribly prematurely aged skin - much worse than that of even the average slim people on SAD diets have. Of course, as you know and as I have learned too late, this glycation damage certainly must be rapidly going on, unseen, internally too.

I recently spoke with an elderly woman who had been a chemist and who was so old she even pronounced 'vegan' differently than it is pronounced today. She told me that the followers of the Hygiene movement always aged very poorly even back then. So, it seems, not everything can be blamed on the much poorer fruit we have available today.

** (I'm adding this video link here for the benefit of those readers who are unfamiliar with the concept and wondering what I am talking about.)...


"Glycation, what is this and how does this relate to aging?"

[www.youtube.com]


Can I join
> you on FB, I would like to have contact with you,
> my id is judgears , it's a google account, please
> contact me if you find time.


Thank you for the compliment, Ramaman. I don't do facebook but I hope you stay around here and add some balance by relating more of your experiences and knowledge you've gained from your profession!

> I had become prediabetic, (with no family history of that even with several sad eating obese relatives), and my lipid panel tests and some others were awful.


so share what you did - what were those results, how long did you go raw, all raw or not, dietary history.... just saying you did poorly doesn't give any clues. i know it's all old stuff for you, but plenty of people are doing fine and not skin aging rapidly.

Surprising that fruit a cleansing food can contribute to aging more than any other food.

The Sproutarian Man PM'd me and wanted to send this is as a special message to the Natural Hygienists so they can exercise great caution to look out for the possible long term side effects of a high fruit diet.

FRUIT-EATING - ITS BENEFITS AND PROBLEMS

by Lawrence Wilson, MD

[www.drlwilson.com]

Low fat fruit and vegetables diets can also reduce the uptake of minerals according to science.

suez,

the video was about EXCESS sugar in the blood. can happen with any diet. you can't just say, hmmm fruit is sweet, that must be the problem. much of the food intake is converted to sugar anyway, non fruit too, as you must know.

it's not about blaming or making fun - just curiosity about a clue as to dietary problem or organ problem or something else.

So more fruit is a problem
Less fruit is a problem
So not eating is ... the solution?

funny how fruit is blamed, and then this study shows how tangelo extract fights A.G.E.s

[pubs.acs.org]


good article from dr wilson, in an alternate universe, where white is black and black is white.

"FRUCTOSE 2.0"

This is an excellent lecture by Neuroendocrinologist Dr. Robert Lustig.

[www.youtube.com]

Now read these very carefully, especially the second extract which was truly fascinating......

Dr. David Ludwig, the director of the New Balance Foundation Obesity Prevention Center at Boston Children’s Hospital, said that sugar consumed in fruit is not linked to any adverse health effects, no matter how much you eat.


[well.blogs.nytimes.com]

Is fructose an evil toxin?
Dr. Lustig refers to fructose is a “poison” that is nearly as toxic to the liver as alcohol. But again, human evidence doesn’t support this claim.

In a recent paper, Dr. Luc Tappy and colleagues labeled acetate, fructose and different metabolites with stable isotope tracers so they could see how fructose is metabolized in the human body. (2) They found that 50 percent ends up as glucose, 25 percent goes to lactate and greater than 15 percent goes to glycogen. The remainder is oxidized directly (to CO2 through the TCA cycle) and a small portion – as low as 2-3% – is converted to fat via de novo lipogenesis.

Glucose and glycogen are easily processed by the body, and 2-3% conversion to fat is not significant. And while some have claimed that lactate may be problematic, a paper published more than a decade ago contradicts this. (Hat tip to Evelyn from CarbSane.) According to the authors:

[chriskresser.com]

I think this skin aging that is noted is caused by overeating, cooked food and sunexposure. .

jaja. These people have everything upside down. This is a REAL scientific study comparing AGEs from food.

[marshfieldceliac.weebly.com]

(numbers = AGE kU/100 g)

Olive, ripe, large (5 g) 1,670
Avocado 1,577
Almonds, blanched slivered 5,473
Butter, whippedb 26,480
Pine nuts (pignolias), raw 11,210
Oil, olive 11,900
Oil, sesame (Asian Gourmet) 21,680

Apple, Macintosh 13
Banana 9
Cantaloupe 20
Dates, Sun-Maid California 60
Carrots, canned 10
Sugar, white 0



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> > > > > > > Hey, jtprindl, are you not aware that
> > most
> > > > > > mushroom "superfoods" in N. America are
> > > grown
> > > > > > exactly in the areas the most Fukushima
> > > > fallout
> > > > > > occurred and is still occurring and
> that
> > > > > mushrooms
> > > > > > suck up radioactive isotopes like a
> > sponge?
> > > > > > These things are not to be recommended
> by
> > > > > people
> > > > > > who know what they are talking about.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > A lot of super foods are grown near
> > > Fukushima,
> > > > > this is the result of poor decision
> making
> > by
> > > > > companies. It's called researching and
> > > finding
> > > > the
> > > > > right sources.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Where is your chaga grown?
> > >
> > >
> > > California
> >
> >
> > I'm sorry. You really are ignorant of the
> > fallout areas.
>
>
> I'm sorry, my source is tested for radiation. You
> were saying?

Lol. And what test was that? The official smell test like was used on seafood to detect Corexit after the bp gulf oil spill?

fresh Wrote:
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> quite a scary world you seem to live in.
>
> I just had an orgasmic experience with a fresh
> barhi date.
>
> what an amazing world this is.
>
> just breathing is a miracle.

I'm going to interrupt your addicted sugar high buzz for a moment, if that is possible. Not for your sake necessarily, but for the sake of any children you might care about protecting in light of a reality you seem to be unaware of...

[topinfopost.com]

>
> I'm going to interrupt your addicted sugar high
> buzz for a moment, if that is possible. Not for
> your sake necessarily, but for the sake of any
> children you might care about protecting in light
> of a reality you seem to be unaware of...
>

Its really sad that people make statements like that about addiction.

I am not blind nor in denial. I focus on what i can control.

If u have a failsafe test of radiation to recommend or some method of redu
cing rads in the body that u know
The body is unable to deal with onits own then share it.
otherwise just more fear.


>
> [topinfopost.com]
> wns-global-denial-at-work#comment-5944

>
> I'm going to interrupt your addicted sugar high
> buzz for a moment, if that is possible. Not for
> your sake necessarily, but for the sake of any
> children you might care about protecting in light
> of a reality you seem to be unaware of...
>

Its really sad that people make statements like that about addiction.

I am not blind nor in denial. I focus on what i can control.

If u have a failsafe test of radiation to recommend or some method of redu
cing rads in the body that u know
The body is unable to deal with onits own then share it.
otherwise just more fear.


>
> [topinfopost.com]
> wns-global-denial-at-work#comment-5944

> > I'm going to interrupt your addicted sugar
> high
> > buzz for a moment, if that is possible.


> Its really sad that people make statements like
> that about addiction.


Well at least you are admitting now that there is an addiction problem so all my posts were not in total vain. Now that you are aware of it you can begin to do something about it.

I'm sure one of the greatest attractions for those with sugar addictions to hclf diets is that it can be rationalized as being healthy so the underlying addiction to sugar problem doesn't have to be confronted.

If I am right in this assumption I guess that it's highest appeal would be to former alcoholics - which also would explain the almost violent response toward anyone who dares to question and doubt it's worth as a healthy diet.

> I am not blind nor in denial. I focus on what i
> can control.

If you can get yourself to face an addiction problem you can learn to get a grip on it. Perhaps do it in steps by switching out high glycemic fruits for low glycemic ones for a start and see how you do with that.


>
> If u have a failsafe test of radiation to
> recommend or some method of redu
> cing rads in the body that u know
> The body is unable to deal with onits own then
> share it.
> otherwise just more fear.


Once again, like I keep saying, wild seaweeds (not Pacific or ag grown ones) are THE top super food for radiation.

For the radioactive Iodines you want seaweeds that are high in Iodine like kelp. Radioactive strontium-90 loves to bind to calcium so you want to make sure you are fully loaded with good calcium which is from foods that have not grown in soils or sprayed in waters which have been contaminated by fallout. You do not want strontium accumulation in you children's bone marrow.

You will need the alginic acid from brown seaweeds because it binds with strontium, and other toxins, to form stontium alginate which allows it to be removed from the body and also protects the body from further contamination.

Start slowly with seaweeds and raise the amount you take by 1 gram increments over a few months span of time as tolerated. Remember, also, if you live on the west coast, that iodine is volatile and it rises on the mists and and in fog so you will be breathing radioactive iodine if it is there. If your body is loaded up with clean iodine you have a much better chance of not absoprbing the radioactive iodine.

There are many other very good superfoods that lend a hand in protecting against all the various radioactive isotopes. Seaweeds, IMO, are the most essential.



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"Even though we have many unique human traits, we are genetically closely related to the great apes and other primates. Primates are the only animals on the face of the earth that can taste sweet and see color. We were designed by nature to see, grasp, eat and enjoy the flavor of colorful, sweet fruits." -Joel Fuhrman, M.D., “Eat to Live” p. 30

thanks for the seaweed info.
Now if you have some info that shows that the body can not handle it on its own WITHOUT seaweed, let me know.


I don't know what purpose your delusional rant on addiction serves,
other than maybe envy? does that make you feel better about yourself
and your choices? I don't have a problem with your choices, why
do you feel a pathetic need to project your nonsense?

all I can say is that you
must REALLY MISS FRUIT, you know, like when you were FEELING REALLY GOOD
and you quit your diet because of some prediabetic diagnosis
even while you are unwilling to actually share any data about that diagnosis.

you seriously need to continue ranting like that?

you're no different than jtprindl.

it's like You're all Brian clement zombies !
FRUIT - BAD, FRUIT - BAD, ZZZZZZZ.....how boring

Fruit is not bad... if it's fresh and in moderation. Or if you do vigorous exercise on a daily basis. Your store-bought fruit is NOT fresh. It was picked unripe and harvested weeks before you got your hands on it. What does this mean? High in tannins and significantly depleted in nutrients and enzymes. I don't know why you keep attempting to insult Brian Clement, who knows way more than you will ever know in regards to health and nutrition and also directs an institute that has healed tens of thousands of people from chronic disease and on the brink of death. What purpose would it serve for Brian Clement to lie about fruit?



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