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vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: ramanan ()
Date: February 21, 2014 03:11PM

Do any one now why life long Asian India vegeterians are more prone to cataract?

Is it due to their milk intake in form of coffee or Tea?

Is it due to yogurt/butter milk added to their meals every day (especially lunch and dinner) ?

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Re: vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: ramanan ()
Date: February 21, 2014 04:13PM

Good PL, I thought macular degeneration and cataract are un related and it is good to know that Taurine (.1% of our body weight is taurine) also have effect on eye health.

Do you recommend any natural food Taurine source (I know taurine is by product of of methinione cycle)?

Do you recommend any natural Zn source other than chia, pumpkin and sun flower seeds?

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Re: vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: February 21, 2014 05:09PM

The lens are less susceptible to O2 damage when young, (when they are anorobic), so there are many contributing factors to be considered. For one thing, IMO, sun gazing in equatorial areas is not cool for older people who want to remain cataract free - but, to each their own. It's hard to keep vegetarians from looking at the sun isn't it? I find it almost impossible myself.

I never drank milk. I have cataracts. I also had heavy metal toxicity and so also blame that for stealing my sulfur needed for so many metabolic pathways.

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Re: vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: ramanan ()
Date: February 21, 2014 05:33PM

Suez, Thanks for letting me know that cataract is possible even for vegans and why sun gazing is not good for people living in tropical areas (near equator)?

How to protect eyes when old from O2 or O3?

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Re: vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: February 21, 2014 05:42PM

ramanan Wrote:
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> Suez, Thanks for letting me know that cataract is
> possible even for vegans and why sun gazing is not
> good for people living in tropical areas (near
> equator)?
>
> How to protect eyes when old from O2 or O3?

Well IMO detoxing from heavy metal is going to help enormously. In the past year, on the Conductivity Diet, my vision has become almost surreally clear - I mean it almost seems as though I am hallucinating everything is so crisp. My guess is that the same process which is removing the unnatural colors from around my iris' is also having an effect on my lens' somehow.

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Re: vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: Panchito ()
Date: February 21, 2014 08:11PM

this study says that vegans have the best chance of not getting cataracs

[www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

"RESULTS:

There was a strong relation between cataract risk and diet group, with a progressive decrease in risk of cataract in high meat eaters to low meat eaters, fish eaters (participants who ate fish but not meat), vegetarians, and vegans. After multivariable adjustment, incidence rate ratios (95% CIs) for moderate meat eaters (50-99 g meat/d), low meat eaters (<50 g meat/d), fish eaters, vegetarians, and vegans compared with high-meat eaters (>100 g meat/d) were 0.96 (0.84, 1.11), 0.85 (0.72, 0.99), 0.79 (0.65, 0.97), 0.70 (0.58, 0.84), and 0.60 (0.38, 0.96), respectively (P < 0.001 for heterogeneity). Associations between cataract risk and intakes of selected nutrients and foods generally reflected the strong association with diet group.
CONCLUSION:

Vegetarians were at lower risk of cataract than were meat eaters in this cohort of health-conscious British residents."

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Re: vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: February 21, 2014 08:29PM

"self-reported non diabetic participants aged over or equal to 40 y"


It wouldn't surprise anyone that vegetarians get less cataracts, and have them start later in life, but really, this study is idiotic and meaningless and should be an embarrassment to such a place as Oxford for letting it hit print. IMO.

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Re: vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: Panchito ()
Date: February 21, 2014 08:51PM

there we go again with the insults (idiotic). Care to explain why would thye include diabetic people? wouldn't that skew the study?

[ajcn.nutrition.org]

"Diabetes, smoking, and exposure to ultraviolet B light have been identified as risk factors for cataract development (3–6). Many studies have investigated possible associations between cataract and diet, and reviewers have suggested that eating foods rich in a variety of vitamins and minerals (7), especially antioxidants such as vitamins C and E (8, 9) and the carotenoid xanthophylls lutein and zeaxanthin (10–13), may protect against cataract."

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Re: vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: February 21, 2014 09:12PM

Panchito Wrote:
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> there we go again with the insults (idiotic). Care
> to explain why would thye include diabetic people?
> wouldn't that skew the study?
>
> [ajcn.nutrition.org]
>
> "Diabetes, smoking, and exposure to ultraviolet B
> light have been identified as risk factors for
> cataract development (3–6). Many studies have
> investigated possible associations between
> cataract and diet, and reviewers have suggested
> that eating foods rich in a variety of vitamins
> and minerals (7), especially antioxidants such as
> vitamins C and E (8, 9) and the carotenoid
> xanthophylls lutein and zeaxanthin (10–13), may
> protect against cataract."

I didn't say you were idiotic I said the study was idiotic. Maybe It's a language barrier thing, don't know.


I would expect way more from Oxford and am shocked that the dumbing down has advanced as far as it has in this study. But anyway the question asked had nothing to do with whether vegetarians do better than others when it comes to getting cataracts. It was asking why would vegetarians get them - which they do.

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Re: vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: Panchito ()
Date: February 21, 2014 09:15PM

yeah, but PoweLifer came to the "rescue" throwing the deficiency theory of vegetarians winking smiley

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Re: vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: February 21, 2014 09:24PM

Panchito Wrote:
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> yeah, but PoweLifer came to the "rescue" throwing
> the deficiency theory of vegetarians winking smiley

I see.

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Re: vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: ramanan ()
Date: February 21, 2014 10:03PM

PL is correct , Dr.Andrew weil had mentioned in his site that AMD (advanced macular degeneration) is due to Zn deficiency as we age and it might be linked with cataract as well, according to Vik, cataract is a protection mechanism of body but I do not know the science behind it.

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Re: vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: jtprindl ()
Date: February 21, 2014 10:17PM

SueZ Wrote:
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> The lens are less susceptible to O2 damage when
> young, (when they are anorobic), so there are many
> contributing factors to be considered. For one
> thing, IMO, sun gazing in equatorial areas is not
> cool for older people who want to remain cataract
> free - but, to each their own. It's hard to keep
> vegetarians from looking at the sun isn't it? I
> find it almost impossible myself.
>
> I never drank milk. I have cataracts. I also
> had heavy metal toxicity and so also blame that
> for stealing my sulfur needed for so many
> metabolic pathways.


Maybe you could try using strained wheatgrass juice eye drops? Here's a quote from Brian Clement, "We've seen case after case in the early stages of cataracts where people have been able to take strained wheatgrass, fresh pressed wheatgrass juice, and apply it, it does sting, into the eye itself. That allows blood flow to come up to the eye and help to emulsify, or break up and take away, the cataract".

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Re: vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: ramanan ()
Date: February 21, 2014 10:19PM

forgot to mention that Zn deficiency may not be the case for celibate vegans they should thrive even if they have <9 mg of DV

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Re: vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: jtprindl ()
Date: February 21, 2014 10:26PM

ramanan Wrote:
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> forgot to mention that Zn deficiency may not be
> the case for celibate vegans they should thrive
> even if they have <9 mg of DV


Do you have any sources that show in-depth what nutrient losses occur with semen loss?

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Re: vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: February 21, 2014 10:29PM

SueZ Wrote:
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> The lens are less susceptible to O2 damage when
> young, (when they are anorobic), so there are many
> contributing factors to be considered. For one
> thing, IMO, sun gazing in equatorial areas is not
> cool for older people who want to remain cataract
> free - but, to each their own. It's hard to keep
> vegetarians from looking at the sun isn't it? I
> find it almost impossible myself.
>
> I never drank milk. I have cataracts. I also
> had heavy metal toxicity and so also blame that
> for stealing my sulfur needed for so many
> metabolic pathways.


"Mercury is very strongly attracted to the following four amino acids: cysteine, cystine, methionine and taurine. By binding with them, it forms toxic compounds (mercaptides), and depletes the availability of these four amino acids for building protein, and for other essential metabolic functions.

Mercury can also interfere with the base groups out of which our DNA is formed, with cellular membrane transport systems, and even with the placenta through its “grabbing” effects on sulfhydryls. Mercury disrupts absorption and distribution of many key nutrients including calcium, zinc, trace minerals selenium and rubidium, plus Vitamin A and Vitamin C...."

[eclectichealing.com]

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Re: vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: February 21, 2014 10:32PM

jtprindl Wrote:
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> SueZ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The lens are less susceptible to O2 damage when
> > young, (when they are anorobic), so there are
> many
> > contributing factors to be considered. For one
> > thing, IMO, sun gazing in equatorial areas is
> not
> > cool for older people who want to remain
> cataract
> > free - but, to each their own. It's hard to
> keep
> > vegetarians from looking at the sun isn't it? I
> > find it almost impossible myself.
> >
> > I never drank milk. I have cataracts. I also
> > had heavy metal toxicity and so also blame that
> > for stealing my sulfur needed for so many
> > metabolic pathways.
>
>
> Maybe you could try using strained wheatgrass
> juice eye drops? Here's a quote from Brian
> Clement, "We've seen case after case in the early
> stages of cataracts where people have been able to
> take strained wheatgrass, fresh pressed wheatgrass
> juice, and apply it, it does sting, into the eye
> itself. That allows blood flow to come up to the
> eye and help to emulsify, or break up and take
> away, the cataract".

No thanks.

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Re: vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: jtprindl ()
Date: February 21, 2014 10:35PM

SueZ Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> jtprindl Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SueZ Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The lens are less susceptible to O2 damage
> when
> > > young, (when they are anorobic), so there are
> > many
> > > contributing factors to be considered. For
> one
> > > thing, IMO, sun gazing in equatorial areas is
> > not
> > > cool for older people who want to remain
> > cataract
> > > free - but, to each their own. It's hard to
> > keep
> > > vegetarians from looking at the sun isn't it?
> I
> > > find it almost impossible myself.
> > >
> > > I never drank milk. I have cataracts. I
> also
> > > had heavy metal toxicity and so also blame
> that
> > > for stealing my sulfur needed for so many
> > > metabolic pathways.
> >
> >
> > Maybe you could try using strained wheatgrass
> > juice eye drops? Here's a quote from Brian
> > Clement, "We've seen case after case in the
> early
> > stages of cataracts where people have been able
> to
> > take strained wheatgrass, fresh pressed
> wheatgrass
> > juice, and apply it, it does sting, into the
> eye
> > itself. That allows blood flow to come up to
> the
> > eye and help to emulsify, or break up and take
> > away, the cataract".
>
> No thanks.


Haha alright. Can't help people who don't help themselves.

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Re: vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: February 21, 2014 10:41PM

jtprindl Wrote:
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> SueZ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > jtprindl Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > SueZ Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > The lens are less susceptible to O2 damage
> > when
> > > > young, (when they are anorobic), so there
> are
> > > many
> > > > contributing factors to be considered. For
> > one
> > > > thing, IMO, sun gazing in equatorial areas
> is
> > > not
> > > > cool for older people who want to remain
> > > cataract
> > > > free - but, to each their own. It's hard to
> > > keep
> > > > vegetarians from looking at the sun isn't
> it?
> > I
> > > > find it almost impossible myself.
> > > >
> > > > I never drank milk. I have cataracts. I
> > also
> > > > had heavy metal toxicity and so also blame
> > that
> > > > for stealing my sulfur needed for so many
> > > > metabolic pathways.
> > >
> > >
> > > Maybe you could try using strained wheatgrass
> > > juice eye drops? Here's a quote from Brian
> > > Clement, "We've seen case after case in the
> > early
> > > stages of cataracts where people have been
> able
> > to
> > > take strained wheatgrass, fresh pressed
> > wheatgrass
> > > juice, and apply it, it does sting, into the
> > eye
> > > itself. That allows blood flow to come up to
> > the
> > > eye and help to emulsify, or break up and
> take
> > > away, the cataract".
> >
> > No thanks.
>
>
> Haha alright. Can't help people who don't help
> themselves.

Ha ha emulsify stuff on eyeballs because that hunched over guy who calls himself a Dr. says to!?

Right. You go first with this half baked BS "cure" from Hell.

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Re: vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: jtprindl ()
Date: February 21, 2014 10:41PM

SueZ Wrote:
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> jtprindl Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SueZ Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > jtprindl Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > SueZ Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > The lens are less susceptible to O2
> damage
> > > when
> > > > > young, (when they are anorobic), so there
> > are
> > > > many
> > > > > contributing factors to be considered.
> For
> > > one
> > > > > thing, IMO, sun gazing in equatorial
> areas
> > is
> > > > not
> > > > > cool for older people who want to remain
> > > > cataract
> > > > > free - but, to each their own. It's hard
> to
> > > > keep
> > > > > vegetarians from looking at the sun isn't
> > it?
> > > I
> > > > > find it almost impossible myself.
> > > > >
> > > > > I never drank milk. I have cataracts.
> I
> > > also
> > > > > had heavy metal toxicity and so also
> blame
> > > that
> > > > > for stealing my sulfur needed for so many
> > > > > metabolic pathways.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Maybe you could try using strained
> wheatgrass
> > > > juice eye drops? Here's a quote from Brian
> > > > Clement, "We've seen case after case in the
> > > early
> > > > stages of cataracts where people have been
> > able
> > > to
> > > > take strained wheatgrass, fresh pressed
> > > wheatgrass
> > > > juice, and apply it, it does sting, into
> the
> > > eye
> > > > itself. That allows blood flow to come up
> to
> > > the
> > > > eye and help to emulsify, or break up and
> > take
> > > > away, the cataract".
> > >
> > > No thanks.
> >
> >
> > Haha alright. Can't help people who don't help
> > themselves.
>
> Ha ha emulsify stuff on eyeballs because that
> hunched over guy who calls himself a Dr. says
> to!?
>
> Right. You go first with this half baked BS
> "cure" from Hell.


Do you think you're more educated and/or more qualified than Brian Clement? By the way, he has way more credentials than Tavis Bradley, yet you constantly listen to him.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/21/2014 10:43PM by jtprindl.

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Re: vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: February 21, 2014 10:58PM

jtprindl Wrote:
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> SueZ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > jtprindl Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > SueZ Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > jtprindl Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > SueZ Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > The lens are less susceptible to O2
> > damage
> > > > when
> > > > > > young, (when they are anorobic), so
> there
> > > are
> > > > > many
> > > > > > contributing factors to be considered.
> > For
> > > > one
> > > > > > thing, IMO, sun gazing in equatorial
> > areas
> > > is
> > > > > not
> > > > > > cool for older people who want to
> remain
> > > > > cataract
> > > > > > free - but, to each their own. It's
> hard
> > to
> > > > > keep
> > > > > > vegetarians from looking at the sun
> isn't
> > > it?
> > > > I
> > > > > > find it almost impossible myself.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I never drank milk. I have
> cataracts.
> > I
> > > > also
> > > > > > had heavy metal toxicity and so also
> > blame
> > > > that
> > > > > > for stealing my sulfur needed for so
> many
> > > > > > metabolic pathways.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe you could try using strained
> > wheatgrass
> > > > > juice eye drops? Here's a quote from
> Brian
> > > > > Clement, "We've seen case after case in
> the
> > > > early
> > > > > stages of cataracts where people have
> been
> > > able
> > > > to
> > > > > take strained wheatgrass, fresh pressed
> > > > wheatgrass
> > > > > juice, and apply it, it does sting, into
> > the
> > > > eye
> > > > > itself. That allows blood flow to come up
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > eye and help to emulsify, or break up and
> > > take
> > > > > away, the cataract".
> > > >
> > > > No thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > > Haha alright. Can't help people who don't
> help
> > > themselves.
> >
> > Ha ha emulsify stuff on eyeballs because
> that
> > hunched over guy who calls himself a Dr. says
> > to!?
> >
> > Right. You go first with this half baked BS
> > "cure" from Hell.
>
>
> Do you think you're more educated and/or more
> qualified than Brian Clement? By the way, he has
> way more credentials than Tavis Bradley, yet you
> constantly listen to him.

I'm educated and qualified enough not to put emulsifier drops on my eyeballs. If that sounds like a good idea to you you've got some screws loose or are ignorant as to what that means and what it can lead to.

If that guy is really suggesting that as a viable treatment, and for that reason, for cataracts, it would be called malpractice if he were a real medical Dr. If he isn't he should be in jail for impersonating one and suggesting such a thing to the gullible who think he is one.

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Re: vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: jtprindl ()
Date: February 21, 2014 11:09PM

SueZ Wrote:
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> jtprindl Wrote:
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> > SueZ Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > jtprindl Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > SueZ Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > jtprindl Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > SueZ Wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > The lens are less susceptible to O2
> > > damage
> > > > > when
> > > > > > > young, (when they are anorobic), so
> > there
> > > > are
> > > > > > many
> > > > > > > contributing factors to be
> considered.
> > > For
> > > > > one
> > > > > > > thing, IMO, sun gazing in equatorial
> > > areas
> > > > is
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > cool for older people who want to
> > remain
> > > > > > cataract
> > > > > > > free - but, to each their own. It's
> > hard
> > > to
> > > > > > keep
> > > > > > > vegetarians from looking at the sun
> > isn't
> > > > it?
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > find it almost impossible myself.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I never drank milk. I have
> > cataracts.
> > > I
> > > > > also
> > > > > > > had heavy metal toxicity and so also
> > > blame
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > for stealing my sulfur needed for so
> > many
> > > > > > > metabolic pathways.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Maybe you could try using strained
> > > wheatgrass
> > > > > > juice eye drops? Here's a quote from
> > Brian
> > > > > > Clement, "We've seen case after case in
> > the
> > > > > early
> > > > > > stages of cataracts where people have
> > been
> > > > able
> > > > > to
> > > > > > take strained wheatgrass, fresh pressed
> > > > > wheatgrass
> > > > > > juice, and apply it, it does sting,
> into
> > > the
> > > > > eye
> > > > > > itself. That allows blood flow to come
> up
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > eye and help to emulsify, or break up
> and
> > > > take
> > > > > > away, the cataract".
> > > > >
> > > > > No thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Haha alright. Can't help people who don't
> > help
> > > > themselves.
> > >
> > > Ha ha emulsify stuff on eyeballs because
> > that
> > > hunched over guy who calls himself a Dr. says
> > > to!?
> > >
> > > Right. You go first with this half baked
> BS
> > > "cure" from Hell.
> >
> >
> > Do you think you're more educated and/or more
> > qualified than Brian Clement? By the way, he
> has
> > way more credentials than Tavis Bradley, yet
> you
> > constantly listen to him.
>
> I'm educated and qualified enough not to put
> emulsifier drops on my eyeballs. If that sounds
> like a good idea to you you've got some screws
> loose or are ignorant as to what that means and
> what it can lead to.
>
> If that guy is really suggesting that as a
> viable treatment, and for that reason, for
> cataracts, it would be called malpractice if he
> were a real medical Dr. If he isn't he should be
> in jail for impersonating one and suggesting such
> a thing to the gullible who think he is one.


If this is true, I just have a few questions...

1.) How has Hippocrates healed thousands of patients who were on the brink of death and told they were going to die?

2.) Why have you clearly had more health issues than Brian Clement? (Who is older than you by more than a decade)

3.) Why are you the only person who has ever said he is "hunched over"?

Looks a lot like you talk the talk while Clement walks the walk. Oh, I have one more question that you refused to answer last time... if Brian Clement looks like the typical SAD eater, who in their mid-60's looks better? Give an example.

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Re: vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: ramanan ()
Date: February 21, 2014 11:34PM

jtp, I need to find a research article and will and once I find it I will pm you.
Suez, how do you get mercury in your blood, through filling or root canal?

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Re: vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: ramanan ()
Date: February 21, 2014 11:48PM

9.4% zn reduction

[www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

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Re: vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: February 21, 2014 11:52PM

jtprindl Wrote:
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> If this is true, I just have a few questions...
>
> 1.) How has Hippocrates healed thousands of
> patients who were on the brink of death and told
> they were going to die?

Has nothing whatsoever to do with the cataract treatment. That's not even a nice try anymore since you fall back on it ad nausea.


> 2.) Why have you clearly had more health issues
> than Brian Clement? (Who is older than you by more
> than a decade)

I don't know how old he is and you don't know how old I am and maybe he wasn't poisoned from mercury, for one thing.

Are you going to blame my health history on me when you know nothing about it except what I 've told you - which is only a bit of it? Hell, I was even subjected to x-rays as a first trimester fetus when my mother was hospitalized while pregnant with me.

Do you really want to be the little snot nosed @#$%& that talks like that? There is always one in the crowd you know. At least I don't tell even people I don't like, as a joke, to put emulsifiers on their eyeballs.

I'm not comparing myself with him. I don't know why you are. I'm saying that treatment is not something he should be telling people to do. If you want to blindly be parroting that, while knowing absolutely nothing about it, which you can't. I'll be expecting you to be putting out a fake Dr, shingle yourself one day. That will not be a good day for the unwell.

> 3.) Why are you the only person who has ever said
> he is "hunched over"?

Maybe because other people are more polite or less perceptive. I don't know. Who cares. It's obvious.


> Looks a lot like you talk the talk while Clement
> walks the walk.

More meaningless trite BS post filler spam.


Oh, I have one more question that
> you refused to answer last time... if Brian
> Clement looks like the typical SAD eater, who in
> their mid-60's looks better? Give an example.

I didn't answer because unless you live in some eastern European third world backwater village, or something, there are SAD eaters that look better than him everywhere. That guy does not look any younger for his age than SAD eaters do - and he looks a whole lot less vibrant than a lot of 70 and 80 year olds. He's a lack luster specimen, IMO.

Besides, someone showed a photo of someone who was 70 who looked much better than your master which saved me the time. Did you miss it?

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Re: vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: jtprindl ()
Date: February 22, 2014 01:30AM

"Has nothing whatsoever to do with the cataract treatment. That's not even a nice try anymore since you fall back on it ad nausea."

You act like Brian Clement is clueless and never knows what he's talking about, well, if that's true... How has Hippocrates healed thousands of patients who were on the brink of death and told they were going to die? Are they just getting lucky?

"I'm not comparing myself with him. I don't know why you are. I'm saying that treatment is not something he should be telling people to do. If you want to blindly be parroting that, while knowing absolutely nothing about it, which you can't."

[www.rawfoodinfo.com] (by Steve Meyerowitz, ‘Sproutman’) - "Filtered grass juice drops in the eyes are soothing for eye strain and tension. Dr. Gary Hall, medical director of the Eye Surgery Institute in Phoenix, Arizona recommends wheatgrass juice for anyone who shows signs of retinal disturbances or has a history of macular degeneration"

[www.rawfoods-livingfoods.com] - "•Finely strained wheatgrass juice can be used as an eyewash for sore or tired eyes, and can be gently applied with a dropper into the ear to help relieve ear ache. It can also be applied with a dropper to the nose to help clear blocked sinuses."

"I didn't answer because unless you live in some eastern European third world backwater village, or something, there are SAD eaters that look better than him everywhere. That guy does not look any younger for his age than SAD eaters do - and he looks a whole lot less vibrant than a lot of 70 and 80 year olds. He's a lack luster specimen, IMO."

Then it should be easy for you. Give an example. I know you like to say things to soothe your own mind and make you feel better about yourself and your aging, but let's back some of that up for once. Go ahead.

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Re: vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: February 22, 2014 01:52AM

jtprindl Wrote:
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> ...


I've had enough of your juvenile nonsense. I will no longer be wasting any more of my time even reading your posts.

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Re: vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: jtprindl ()
Date: February 22, 2014 01:56AM

SueZ Wrote:
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> jtprindl Wrote:
> "-------------------------------------------------
> ------
> > ...
>
>
> I've had enough of your juvenile nonsense. I
> will no longer be wasting any more of my time even
> reading your posts.


Stay out of the kitchen if you cant handle the heat smiling smiley Juvenile is running away when confronted with evidence contrary to your beliefs and not presenting any of your own.



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Re: vegeterians and cataract
Posted by: RawPracticalist ()
Date: February 24, 2014 08:16AM

Some do not like Brian Clement because of his views on fruits and oils and his total commitment to sprouting.

That dislike is transferred into not liking him physically.

There is a name for that disease

It is the Brian-Clement-Thinks-My-Diet-Is-Trash-So-I-Proclaim-He-Does-Not-Look-Good Syndrome.

But there is a cure.

Try sprouting for a month and your view will change.

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