jtprindl Wrote:
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> It doesn't need to be recognized by the Department
> of Education for it to be credible.

Sure, some people will believe. Thats is not what I said. I said comparable and legally comparable. Anybody can hang a website and claim to be a super granting accredited agengy. But this is main point that will bite you. A person can call himslef whatever he wants. But will other people believe it?

ie. other people = court



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/14/2015 10:35PM by Panchito.

"No offence but you don't convince me that you have the level of knowledge to consult individuals on nutrition and health professionally with your generic supplemental recommedations, which could be dangerous for many."

Good thing I don't need to convince you You're a troll who has nothing better to do with his time than to consistently create one account after another on a message board just so you can interrogate people you have a personal issue with. I never recommend anything "generic" unless it is well-documented to be successful and I certainly never recommend anything that is dangerous. I offer effective remedies and always encourage people to consult with a Naturopathic doctor as well.

Panchito wrote:
"But will other people believe it?"

It doesn't matter if they believe it or not, it's an accredited degree.

jtprindl Wrote:
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> Panchito wrote:
> "But will other people believe it?"
>
> It doesn't matter if they believe it or not, it's
> an accredited degree.

and what if "other people" is a US court of law? Are you going to tell them that what they believe does not matter? If you engage in a money exchage in return for your expertise, you are operating under US law.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/14/2015 10:43PM by Panchito.

"You make generic supplemental recommendations every second post for toxic AFA-klamath lake derived blue-green algae or omega-3s having no idea what form of depression such individuals is diagnosed with by professionals."

Once again, I would never attempt to diagnose anyone over an online forum, I make recommendations and encourage people to seek out a local Naturopathic doctor. Also, E3Live is not toxic and omega-3's are commonly associated with depression and raw vegans have a much higher susceptibility to low EPA/DHA, especially those who are low-fat, thus making it a completely logical recommendation. And if you knew anything about E3 Live, you would understand why it was recommended.

Panchito Wrote:
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> jtprindl Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Panchito wrote:
> > "But will other people believe it?"
> >
> > It doesn't matter if they believe it or not,
> it's
> > an accredited degree.
>
> and what if "other people" is US court of law? Are
> you going to tell them that what they believe does
> not matter?

Once again...

[www.thehda.org]
Are the degrees given by The H.D.A. accredited schools valid?

"All H.D.A. accredited schools are approved by a government agency whether in the United States of America or an international government agency that authorizes and grants permission for post-secondary schools to offer certified or post-secondary degrees."

PL, well all I can say is that the screen names you've been choosing lately have really given me a chuckle. I used to think that you have no sense of humor but I stand corrected.

peace and loving raw guru

jtprindl Wrote:
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> "All H.D.A. accredited schools are approved by a
> government agency whether in the United States of
> America or an international government agency that
> authorizes and grants permission for
> post-secondary schools to offer certified or
> post-secondary degrees."

aproved != accredited. They can exist as a business entity and by such their existance is approved by the IRS (goverment agency), but not accredited the US Department of Education. The value here is being accredited by the department of education, not for example the municipal wastewater agency.

"Come one, you are recommending serious pharmaceutical drugs such as lithium based off a few studies you've read. So don't tell me you don't make specific or generic recommendations."

I never recommended any pharmaceutical drugs, I mentioned that lithium had been shown to be effective at treating depression and in that very same post acknowledged the importance of seeking out a Naturopathic doctor.

"Show me any data which shows that the E3Lives latest batch of blue-green Klamath Lake algae conforms to "safe" microcystin and anatoxin levels."

For one, there are thousands of positive testimonials in regards to E3Live - if you want to believe this is a coincidence, so be it. I have also been taking E3Live nearly every single day for the past 7-8 months and have never experienced any negative side effects. And two...

[www.e3live.com]

All E3 products are tested thoroughly by independent USDA certified labs for food safety, shelf-life and various other purity tests. We test for: Listeria, Salmonella, Staph aureus, Yeast/Mold, Coliform/E Coli, Aerobic Plate Count, Microcystin, Anatoxin, Saxotoxin & Neurotoxin. We meet or exceed all of the standards for each of these set forth by the FDA and Dept. of Agriculture. We also test the lake water throughout the year for heavy metals and pesticide residue and we use the standards and guidelines that are set for drinking water. These include: Arsenic, Mercury, Lead, Cadmium. This is done by independent laboratories specializing in food and water quality.

For more details on the above information, please contact us 541-273-2212.

Call em' up if you want more details.

"The bulk of the research shows that Klamath Lake blue-green algae is dodgy and toxic, yet you are unable to comphrend that as a "fake" professional."

I do not care about your opinion in regards to my knowledge. You don't know me and have no idea what I know. You're here to create drama and I have no interest in it.

Panchito Wrote:
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> jtprindl Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > "All H.D.A. accredited schools are approved by
> a
> > government agency whether in the United States
> of
> > America or an international government agency
> that
> > authorizes and grants permission for
> > post-secondary schools to offer certified or
> > post-secondary degrees."
>
> aproved != accredited. They can exist as a
> business entity and by such their existance is
> approved by the IRS (goverment agency), but not
> accredited the US Department of Education. The
> value here is being accredited by the department
> of education, not for example the municipal
> wastewater agency.


You should've read the rest of the sentence - "All H.D.A. accredited schools are approved by a government agency whether in the United States of America or an international government agency that authorizes and grants permission for post-secondary schools to offer certified or post-secondary degrees."

They are approved by a government agency to offer certified degrees.

I've read it and understand it. That is their business model and that is what is approved by the IRS. But you seem to not be able to differentiate between a "certification" and "post-sedcondary degree" to US department of education accredited graduate school. Big difference. Any company can grant certificates and make degrees. But to what standards?

peaceandlovingrawguru Wrote:
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> Wow you provided a piece of text that they
> regularly claim to test their Klamath Lake algae,
> which is exactly what all the manufacturers
> claim.
>
> Yet the studies find that the majority of the
> samples from these "high class regular testing
> manufacturers" routinely fails for microcystin
> contaminations.
>
> No recent analysis, you are just completely buying
> into nothing more than a few lines of text from
> the seller.
>
> Nothing more than i expected from an amateur, who
> buys heavily into anecdotal beliefs, supplement
> vendor testimonials and rat/mice studies, without
> taking into account the net human effect.
>
> Basic and generic...sorry.


Lol ok whatever you say.

"Notice how you never debunk my posts but only respond "ok whatever you say" yet respond pages to the like of panchito and co ? Debunking low fat dogma natural hygienists doesn't make you a qualified health professional."

It took me 6-7 months spending an average of 4-5 hours daily.

There's nothing to debunk, you aren't even worthy of a response nor any respect. I have debunked you on countless occasions on your countless screen names. Once again, you have no idea about the extent of my knowledge, you're simply here to create disharmony because you're bored with your life or something. You're not a good example of the diet you promote.

jtprindl Wrote:
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> It took me 6-7 months spending an average of 4-5
> hours daily.

Wow. That is not what anybody would call a BS (Bachelor of Science) degree. It is a certification if anything.

"than prescribing generic nutritional and supplement recommendations to people that you have no idea of their medical history, because it is very dangerous and unprofessional."

Good thing I never did that, as I literally just explained.

"And no amount of selected mice studies or no-studies in the case of your e3live will change my opinion."

I really couldn't care less about your opinion of E3 Live to tell you the truth.

"That is not what anybody would call a BS (Bachelor of Science) degree. It is a certification if anything."

It's an accredited degree, just because it was obtained in a different manner than traditional state universities doesn't make it not credible.

peaceandlovingrawguru Wrote:
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> jtprindl Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > "than prescribing generic nutritional and
> > supplement recommendations to people that you
> have
> > no idea of their medical history, because it is
> > very dangerous and unprofessional."
> >
> > Good thing I never did that, as I literally
> just
> > explained.
> >
> > "And no amount of selected mice studies or
> > no-studies in the case of your e3live will
> change
> > my opinion."
> >
> > I really couldn't care less about your opinion
> of
> > E3 Live to tell you the truth.
> >
> > "That is not what anybody would call a BS
> > (Bachelor of Science) degree. It is a
> > certification if anything."
> >
> > It's an accredited degree, just because it was
> > obtained in a different manner than traditional
> > state universities doesn't make it not
> credible.
>
> Conventional or non-conventional is irrelevant
> your trying to pull the wool over our eyes now.
>
> What you mean is that your 6 month degree is
> worthless in the eyes of any real accrediting
> agency and that you are not a real qualified
> nutritional expert or doctor of health.


You can believe this if you want, doesn't bother me one bit.

hey powerlifter, stop picking on jtprindl!!! you trying to put me out of work?



>>>Debunking low fat dogma natural hygienists doesn't make you a qualified health professional.

hey , wait a minute! i take it back! go get him prindl!

Panchito Wrote:
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> jtprindl Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It took me 6-7 months spending an average of
> 4-5
> > hours daily.
>
> Wow. That is not what anybody would call a BS
> (Bachelor of Science) degree. It is a
> certification if anything.


wow, I don't know what to say. An Associate degree alone is 2 years full time. I guess Prindl is following his maker, Brian Clement, the dubious doctor with the dubious degrees.

biggest obstacle to proper nutrition:

studying nutrition

it's like studying to learn how to walk

Anon 102 Wrote:

> > > It took me 6-7 months spending an average of
> > 4-5
> > > hours daily.
> >
> > Wow. That is not what anybody would call a BS
> > (Bachelor of Science) degree. It is a
> > certification if anything.

I spend more time than that prepping for one of the
four courses I am currently teaching. It's a weed
out course that most people fail. Not everyone can
be a scientist or engineer.

John Rose Wrote:
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> Yes, as an Excremental Scientist, I have
> documented all of my BMs ever since I did my 90
> Day Juice Fast back in 1994. Indeed, I wish
> someone else had already done this research, but
> they haven't, so I have taken it upon myself to do
> so for the benefit others.
>
> As a side note, some of my students use strainers
> to capture what comes out of them while on a Juice
> Fast, but since I ALWAYS squat when I defecate, I
> simply line a bowl with TP, set it on the floor
> and defecate as if I was in nature. This makes it
> real easy to document without "fishing anything
> out" of the toilet and there's absolutely no mess
> or stench whatsoever.


You must be in great demand as a house guest

HAHAHAHA YES JOHN





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/15/2015 09:17PM by coconutcream.

arugula Wrote:
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> Anon 102 Wrote:
>
> > > > It took me 6-7 months spending an average
> of
> > > 4-5
> > > > hours daily.
> > >
> > > Wow. That is not what anybody would call a BS
> > > (Bachelor of Science) degree. It is a
> > > certification if anything.
>
> I spend more time than that prepping for one of
> the
> four courses I am currently teaching. It's a weed
> out course that most people fail. Not everyone
> can
> be a scientist or engineer.

I love those courses that are specially designed where nearly everyone will fail (intermediate statistics....such a hard subject). The level of education now is so dumbed down and made too easy. Too many people [who have no place in higher education] pass and get high marks.

I am completely disgusted with the education system now, it is worse than ever. When l went to school most people only got average marks and very few ever got high marks. But as education has become big business they make it so most people get good marks. Getting straight A's was rare once, but now it is common place, and yet these students are as clueless as ever. Learning is now largely memory based learning, not based on analysis and proper understanding of the subjects.

These days they keep people in school for much longer, but for what reason??? Most are lucky to get jobs, and low paying jobs at that despite having Masters and Ph D's. We are the most over educated slaves in the world, but much of the education is not designed to wake us up to much of anything, it is designed to make us serve the system as a pawn in the game and to take away critical thinking skills. Distract the slaves and keep them learning low level meanlingless education...creates good business and ensures people don't know too much.

Education is good in the right hands because it allows one to develop good research and thinking skills, but for the large part this will not happen with most people.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/15/2015 09:45PM by The Sproutarian Man.

The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
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> arugula Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Anon 102 Wrote:
> >
> > > > > It took me 6-7 months spending an average
> > of
> > > > 4-5
> > > > > hours daily.
> > > >
> > > > Wow. That is not what anybody would call a
> BS
> > > > (Bachelor of Science) degree. It is a
> > > > certification if anything.
> >
> > I spend more time than that prepping for one of
> > the
> > four courses I am currently teaching. It's a
> weed
> > out course that most people fail. Not everyone
> > can
> > be a scientist or engineer.
>
> I love those courses that are specially designed
> where nearly everyone will fail (intermediate
> statistics....such a hard subject). The level of
> education now is so dumbed down and made too easy.
> Too many people pass and get high marks.
>
> I am completely disgusted with the education
> system now, it is worse than ever. When l went to
> school most people only got average marks and very
> few ever got high marks. But as education has
> become big business they make it so most people
> get good marks. Getting straight A's was rare
> once, but now it is common place, and yet these
> students are as clueless as ever. Learning is now
> largely memory based learning, not based on
> analysis and proper understanding of the
> subjects.
>
> These days they keep people in school for much
> longer, but for what reason??? Most are lucky to
> get jobs, and low paying jobs at that despite
> having Masters and Ph D's. We are the most over
> educated slaves in the world, but much of the
> education is not designed to wake us up to much of
> anything, it is designed to make us serve the
> system as a pawn in the game and to take away
> critical thinking skills. Distract the slaves and
> keep them learning low level meanlingless
> education...creates good business and ensures
> people don't know too much.
>
> Education is good in the right hands because it
> allows one to develop good research and thinking
> skills, but for the large part this will not
> happen with most people.


Also, the main priority of the education system in America is not to truly educate its youth and promote critical thinking, it's designed to make as much profit as possible. Many countries offer very high-quality education essentially for free. The subjects are also very limited in high school which gives students a distorted perception of their career options.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/15/2015 09:54PM by jtprindl.

Yes, education has become an ugly thing for the most part.

Universities still have some standards in STEM, though.

We do so much for the kids compared to 20 years ago but the failure rates are still pretty high.

Even if they took AP Calculus in high school they can still know nothing when they take it at the university.

It's so much worse at the community college level. They want to pass everyone and they de-content the courses so thoroughly. Only Pearson and the college president make a profit.

Universities still have some standards in some fields, though. And yes, they are ridiculously expensive these days.

I'd still want my hypothetical kids to go to a university and study math or physics or go to engineering school. I still have stars in my eyes when I think about some of the things I learned. I still get them today, it's like my brain opens up like a flower. I'd want my kid to have that, too.

But I'd have to be rich before I had a hypothetical kid!

"Universities still have some standards in some fields, though. And yes, they are ridiculously expensive these days."

How did you get into yours? Did you get really good high-school grades or high test scores?

I was always bookish with great stats. I started the summer after 11th grade.

I have an uncle who got first class honours (95%+) in every subject and went through high school and university on scholarships. He had the highest marks in the state and topped university law with virtually no study, and was so modest that he told no-one knew except his mother and father. The crazy thing is...he very rarely ever studied in his entire life, but he was exceptional at everything! He did an I.Q like test and got well above genious level. He becomes expert in everything he is interested in, yet he can be really dumb like some genious people can be...eg, he still think we need to eat meat lol, but he is too busy to study into that area, but if he did study diet he would rise to the top within a very short time.

He has mastered areas of science, mastered maths, mastered computers, mastered many sports, mastered areas of law, mastered astronomy, mastered accounting etc and is in the Guinness Book of Records.



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arugula Wrote:
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> I was always bookish with great stats. I started
> the summer after 11th grade.


Did scholarships handle most of your tuition?

No, I did early admissions. I did not apply for any scholarships but I co-oped with an engineering firm and they paid for my last two years. In grad school I had TAs and RAs so I didn't have to pay.