I thought that was a very sweet confession. Do you believe it was true? I sensed fear. Maybe of herself.

That is some ridiculous mess.

did the girls plan it so they could blackmail him into refunding their money?

I think her intention was to make it look as though she was coerced. She did that video in exchange for certain videos of his to be taken down, as when Jilicious Journey is typed into Google, negative results come up. I think he is putting the videos up again. Annie Jaffrey said on her Instagram that Joe forced her to do it. Jil liked someone's video on the same day she made the video who said the same thing.

Joe's video explains that she was not coerced at all.

It was Jil's intention to make the video look as though she was coerced, so that she could get certain videos which clear Joe's name and discredit Jil's taken down...and then have people believe that she was pressured into making a video...therefore planting a seed of doubt as to the validity of the confession. She gets what she wants - a more sanitised search engine result...plus plays up the vulnerable, innocent, fearful girl act so that people begin to feel sorry for her and that maybe believe that Joe has intimidated her in some way. So underhanded.

The lengths that these girls go to are unbelievable.

I used to think Jil was so sweet too.

I realised on the video where they recorded Joe that these girls are not sweet at all. A lot of people woke up to them at that point, so the video didn't work in their favour. Before that I believed Jil.

I think Jil has some kind of mental illness - some have mentioned Borderline Personality Disorder. I think Annie has Narcissistic Personality Disorder for sure.

The whole thing is quite insidious.

Would this have happened if they were raw foodists I wonder? Does the cooked food (albeit vegan) drop their frequency to this level?



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/09/2015 11:06PM by Raw Curious.

raw curious,

thanks but i wasn't really asking what you responded to.

i was trying to figure out why she claimed he "raped" (or whatever) her in the first place - since part of it was that he refund all their money.

i didn't see any other motive.

Raw Curious Wrote:
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> I think her intention was to make it look as
> though she was coerced. She did that video in
> exchange for certain videos of his to be taken
> down, as when Jilicious Journey is typed into
> Google, negative results come up. I think he is
> putting the videos up again. Annie Jaffrey said on
> her Instagram that Joe forced her to do it. Jil
> liked someone's video on the same day she made the
> video who said the same thing.
>
> Joe's video explains that she was not coerced at
> all.
>
> It was Jil's intention to make the video look as
> though she was coerced, so that she could get
> certain videos which clear Joe's name and
> discredit Jil's taken down...and then have people
> believe that she was pressured into making a
> video...therefore planting a seed of doubt as to
> the validity of the confession. She gets what she
> wants - a more sanitised search engine
> result...plus plays up the vulnerable, innocent,
> fearful girl act so that people begin to feel
> sorry for her and that maybe believe that Joe has
> intimidated her in some way. So underhanded.
>
> The lengths that these girls go to are
> unbelievable.
>
> I used to think Jil was so sweet too.
>
> I realised on the video where they recorded Joe
> that these girls are not sweet at all. A lot of
> people woke up to them at that point, so the video
> didn't work in their favour. Before that I
> believed Jil.
>
> I think Jil has some kind of mental illness - some
> have mentioned Borderline Personality Disorder. I
> think Annie has Narcissistic Personality Disorder
> for sure.
>
> The whole thing is quite insidious.
>
> Would this have happened if they were raw foodists
> I wonder? Does the cooked food (albeit vegan) drop
> their frequency to this level?

The most charming little Henya, whom Durianrider once called inspiring, disagrees ...

[www.youtube.com]

Everyone involved in that melodrama is bad news. Now that the dust has settled in that dirty, inconsequential speck of the world, one psychopath has ended up looking a bit less horrible than a few other psychopaths. What a triumph for humanity.

SueZ Wrote:
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> Raw Curious Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I think her intention was to make it look as
> > though she was coerced. She did that video in
> > exchange for certain videos of his to be taken
> > down, as when Jilicious Journey is typed into
> > Google, negative results come up. I think he is
> > putting the videos up again. Annie Jaffrey said
> on
> > her Instagram that Joe forced her to do it. Jil
> > liked someone's video on the same day she made
> the
> > video who said the same thing.
> >
> > Joe's video explains that she was not coerced
> at
> > all.
> >
> > It was Jil's intention to make the video look
> as
> > though she was coerced, so that she could get
> > certain videos which clear Joe's name and
> > discredit Jil's taken down...and then have
> people
> > believe that she was pressured into making a
> > video...therefore planting a seed of doubt as
> to
> > the validity of the confession. She gets what
> she
> > wants - a more sanitised search engine
> > result...plus plays up the vulnerable,
> innocent,
> > fearful girl act so that people begin to feel
> > sorry for her and that maybe believe that Joe
> has
> > intimidated her in some way. So underhanded.
> >
> > The lengths that these girls go to are
> > unbelievable.
> >
> > I used to think Jil was so sweet too.
> >
> > I realised on the video where they recorded Joe
> > that these girls are not sweet at all. A lot of
> > people woke up to them at that point, so the
> video
> > didn't work in their favour. Before that I
> > believed Jil.
> >
> > I think Jil has some kind of mental illness -
> some
> > have mentioned Borderline Personality Disorder.
> I
> > think Annie has Narcissistic Personality
> Disorder
> > for sure.
> >
> > The whole thing is quite insidious.
> >
> > Would this have happened if they were raw
> foodists
> > I wonder? Does the cooked food (albeit vegan)
> drop
> > their frequency to this level?
>
> The most charming little Henya, whom Durianrider
> once called inspiring, disagrees ...
>
> [www.youtube.com]

Oh, by the way, the lovely Henya sells equally lovely tee shirts ...

[vegangsta.deco-apparel.com]

RawCurious, good points.

<<Would this have happened if they were raw foodists I wonder?>>
Maybe, maybe not. We have seen 100% raw foodists exhibit questionable behaviours too.

<<Does the cooked food (albeit vegan) drop their frequency to this level?>>
Possibly:
Junk Food Isn't Just Making People Fat—It's Making Them Stupid


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SueZ Wrote:
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> banana who Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Whoa (not WOAH, which makes my skin crawl),
> that
> > video has been put on private! What was it?!
>
>
> Joe Best kept his copy of the video up. Here you
> go ...
>
> [www.youtube.com]

OMG, I saw it. I have no idea about this "scandal," fake or otherwise, but why is she crying? It almost seems this was filmed under duress, but if she falsely accused someone of something, that is certainly not cool. I just don't know these names. Whatever happened to David Avocado Wolfe, the juicing truck driver, Shazzie, etc.? They have kind of faded to the background and now this new crop are unknown to me.

Joe K, a YouTube commenter, posed these excellent questions on a Passion And Fruit "Jil's apology/confession" video ...


"Questions that need answers from Mr Best for total transparency

Was he and/or representatives of his (legal or otherwise) present in the room when this video by Jil was filmed?

Was Jil's passport taken from her at any time (if so by whom)?

Was Jil informed that unless she made this video she could not return to Germany?

If so by whom and on what legal basis/authority was she told this?

Finally did Jil have access to her own independent legal advice?

Please feel free to copy and paste this questions. They are important to have them in the 'debate'.

Transparency is important don't you agree Mr Best and his supporters?"



Well I would say, yes, Joe K, these questions need to be answered by Mr. Best if he wants his version of what happened to be believed.

I'd also like a timeline of when the confession was taped in comparison to the time of Jil showing up at his house because I'm suspicious that the visit might have been for the actual apology/confession due to her wearing the same grey colored top at both recorded events and the position of the sun in the "Jil at the gate" scenario Mr. Best taped ...



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Suez did you see this Jillicious commentary by Hellorodney?

( IT HAD BEEN REMOVED )

He got a BIG HARD ON a big hard on- on his shorts, looking over her videos..he explained..he paused and he pointed.. looking at Jillicious's videos and commented on how OPEN her legs looked and how hard she was trying to seduce the guys and he stood up with a boner.

He was commenting on the way she was sitting , wide open, with her legs open and her breasts you could see, them heaving and she was wearing low cut silky top.

Mona Lisa must have made men hard too.

He called her a tease. She was seducing the two guys...and look at that pose..the open pose he kept saying, how wide open she is.. It doesnt mean jillicious is a tease, just because its that time of month she is in heat. She is naturally...sensual. He had a point, she was in heat, or on fire or attracted to the guys and flirting hardcore...My opinion. Nothing wrong. Sex is the law of the universe.

I wish the video wasn't taken down because it was Rodney's Masterpiece of comedy. But to be fair, this could really damage her future, all employers and all men she dates,and could hurt her children if she ever has any. So its not nice to laugh at the expense of others.

Maybe his point was she is very attractive and he could not control himself...so MAYBE...others cant either.





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suvine Wrote:
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> Suez did you see this Jillicious commentary by
> Hellorodney?
>
> ( IT HAD BEEN REMOVED )
>
> He got a BIG HARD ON a big hard on- on his shorts,
> looking over her videos..he explained..he paused
> and he pointed.. looking at Jillicious's videos
> and commented on how OPEN her legs looked and how
> hard she was trying to seduce the guys and he
> stood up with a boner.
>
> He was commenting on the way she was sitting ,
> wide open, with her legs open and her breasts you
> could see, them heaving and she was wearing low
> cut silky top.
>
> Mona Lisa must have made men hard too.
>
> He called her a tease. She was seducing the two
> guys...and look at that pose..the open pose he
> kept saying, how wide open she is.. It doesnt mean
> jillicious is a tease, just because its that time
> of month she is in heat. She is
> naturally...sensual. He had a point, she was in
> heat, or on fire or attracted to the guys and
> flirting hardcore...My opinion. Nothing wrong.
>
> I wish the video wasn't taken down because it was
> Rodneys Masterpiece of comedy. But to be fair,
> this could really damage her future, all employers
> and all men and could hurt her children.

No I missed that. I must have been looking somewhere else. Good eye, Prana. Lol.

Did Rodney say anything about how Joe was flirting with others, too, despite his having a girlfriend? And when is Joe going to publically apologize to Jil for telling Durianrider he slept with her when he hadn't? What's good for the goose should be good for the gander shouldn't it?

Tell ya one thing - no one could pay me enough to stay at that "transformansion". I'm not a fan of a touchy feely entertainment preforming singing landlords that walks around with a camera recording the paying guests to put in his youtube videos. Creeps me out.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/10/2015 11:48PM by SueZ.

fresh...sorry, i was responding more to what suvine was asking.

annie jaffrey found out from her masseur or waxer or whatever that joe best was paying x baht per month for the house he was renting. she did the maths, and thought they were being overcharged. she didn't take into account bills or items he'd bought for the house. irregardless of the fact, it is his prerogative to charge what he wishes. he has a video up (hopefully he hasn't taken it down), explaining the financial situation, and why he wasn't making a profit anyway. if the girls didn't like the rate they were being charged, they should have gone and rented their own house. their behaviour was really bizarre.

banana who. i think it was her intention that it looked like it was filmed under duress, so that she could say that very thing later, thus discrediting Joe further.

the bottom line is it is a very grave thing to accuse someone of sexual harassment in the way that they did. launch a legal case, and have it proven if it's really legitimate, but don't vilify somebody's reputation via social media unless you have a leg to stand on. many are urging joe to launch a case for defamation and extortion against these women. now annie and jill are trying to get his youtube channel shut down. he has systematically used evidence to clear his name. his videos paint a very poor picture of them, and thus damages their social media image. annie and jil are not posting videos and are furiously deleting the plethora of negative comments.

i have no problem with joe flirting with or being involved with young women. i remember kissing a fifty year old when i was 21. i see joe as a big hearted guy who gets used by people. the house got out of control and became like a sorority. they were the 'mean girls' and joe (in his words) was the designated 'fat, ugly girl'.



Edited 6 time(s). Last edit at 07/12/2015 06:55AM by Raw Curious.

Those women have been busy. Yesterday Joe Best and Rodney(at least) were flagged on YouTube. Today their YouTube accounts have been terminated.

I just hope Joe was smart enough to back everything up. But this has happened so quickly.

The injustice of it is what gets me.

He gets slandered. He tries to clear his name. They don't like the reaction of those who see their true colours. They want to sanitise their search history. He gets banned!!!!! I am hoping it is just temporary.

From Annie's Instagram.

"If you are humble nothing will touch you, neither praise nor discouragement... because you know what you are." Unknown. Always do good, be good and stay true to YOU. Karma and the universe will take care of the rest.

She makes me want to puke, because she is so nasty on the inside.

I really hope Joe starts legal action against those two.

Karma will come back to bite Annie and Jil. This has infuriated many due to the audacity of these................creatures.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/12/2015 01:08PM by Raw Curious.

SueZ Wrote:
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> Those women have been busy. Yesterday Joe Best and
> Rodney(at least) were flagged on YouTube. Today
> their YouTube accounts have been terminated.

Hellorodney is back up but all the good stuff, IMO, isn't.

I may be wrong but it seems to me some people are just not cut out to be communal hotel landlords. More likely - nobody is.

Joe seems to have been totally fogged out into some crazy mental la la land in his assumptions and expectations of his paying guest's intentions of their lodging obligations and how and where their time in Thailand would be spent being in alignment with his own fantasies and housekeeping time charts. Well, at least it's probably safe to say, without knowing, that he didn't grow up with sisters ...

[www.youtube.com]

Suez I am watching the video
I dont know why, but I am.

Isnt talking about your failures against the law of attraction?

" They Contributed nothing", I like how he says thats what short term guests are.

Why would anyone want to stay at his retreat forever....