How Climate Migration Will Reshape America Millions will be displaced. Where will they go?

"Well here ya go, time to adopt that NOMADIC LIFEstyle. An RV/Boat/Tiny Home on Wheels, are the BEST houses to LIVE in, not only for access to the ever changing tapestry of NATURE, but also for safety. It also single highhandedly, eliminates territorialism and "ownership". If WE the COLLECTIVE are smart, as a group, WE'll also start Permaculture planting the landscape WE will ALL SHARE."

"What is this you call property? It cannot be the earth, for the land is our mother, nourishing all her children, beasts, birds, fish and all men. The woods, the streams, everything on it belongs to everybody and is for the use of all. How can one man say it belongs only to him?" -Massasoit

The Brahiminist theology called Vedanta believes that the root of ownership is the feeling that one is separate from the rest of the universe. Given this understanding, one disconnects oneself from the universe, and then attempts to reconnect with objects through a relationship which is called ownership. Vedanta believes that the feeling of ownership is an illusion, which remains with oneself as long as one considers oneself as separate from the Universe. When one understands the fundamental reality that there is only one entity called the Universe, there is no need for ownership and one gets rid of this illusion.

August besieged California with a heat unseen in generations. A surge in air-conditioning broke the state’s electrical grid, leaving a population already ravaged by the coronavirus to work remotely by the dim light of their cellphones. By midmonth, the state had recorded possibly the hottest temperature ever measured on earth — 130 degrees in Death Valley — and an otherworldly storm of lightning had cracked open the sky. From Santa Cruz to Lake Tahoe, thousands of bolts of electricity exploded down onto withered grasslands and forests, some of them already hollowed out by climate-driven infestations of beetles and kiln-dried by the worst five-year drought on record. Soon, California was on fire.

Over the next two weeks, 900 blazes incinerated six times as much land as all the state’s 2019 wildfires combined, forcing 100,000 people from their homes. Three of the largest fires in history burned simultaneously in a ring around the San Francisco Bay Area. Another fire burned just 12 miles from my home in Marin County. I watched as towering plumes of smoke billowed from distant hills in all directions and air tankers crisscrossed the skies. Like many Californians, I spent those weeks worrying about what might happen next, wondering how long it would be before an inferno of 60-foot flames swept up the steep, grassy hillside on its way toward my own house, rehearsing in my mind what my family would do to escape.

But I also had a longer-term question, about what would happen once this unprecedented fire season ended. Was it finally time to leave for good?

I had an unusual perspective on the matter. For two years, I have been studying how climate change will influence global migration. My sense was that of all the devastating consequences of a warming planet — changing landscapes, pandemics, mass extinctions — the potential movement of hundreds of millions of climate refugees across the planet stands to be among the most important. I traveled across four countries to witness how rising temperatures were driving climate refugees away from some of the poorest and hottest parts of the world. I had also helped create an enormous computer simulation to analyze how global demographics might shift, and now I was working on a data-mapping project about migration here in the United States.



So it was with some sense of recognition that I faced the fires these last few weeks. In recent years, summer has brought a season of fear to California, with ever-worsening wildfires closing in. But this year felt different. The hopelessness of the pattern was now clear, and the pandemic had already uprooted so many Americans. Relocation no longer seemed like such a distant prospect. Like the subjects of my reporting, climate change had found me, its indiscriminate forces erasing all semblance of normalcy. Suddenly I had to ask myself the very question I’d been asking others: Was it time to move?

I am far from the only American facing such questions. This summer has seen more fires, more heat, more storms — all of it making life increasingly untenable in larger areas of the nation. Already, droughts regularly threaten food crops across the West, while destructive floods inundate towns and fields from the Dakotas to Maryland, collapsing dams in Michigan and raising the shorelines of the Great Lakes. Rising seas and increasingly violent hurricanes are making thousands of miles of American shoreline nearly uninhabitable. As California burned, Hurricane Laura pounded the Louisiana coast with 150-mile-an-hour winds, killing at least 25 people; it was the 12th named storm to form by that point in 2020, another record. Phoenix, meanwhile, endured 53 days of 110-degree heat — 20 more days than the previous record.

For years, Americans have avoided confronting these changes in their own backyards. The decisions we make about where to live are distorted not just by politics that play down climate risks, but also by expensive subsidies and incentives aimed at defying nature. In much of the developing world, vulnerable people will attempt to flee the emerging perils of global warming, seeking cooler temperatures, more fresh water and safety. But here in the United States, people have largely gravitated toward environmental danger, building along coastlines from New Jersey to Florida and settling across the cloudless deserts of the Southwest.



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How Climate Migration Will Reshape America. Millions will be displaced. Where will they go?

"Well here ya go, time to adopt that NOMADIC LIFEstyle. An RV/Boat/Tiny Home on Wheels, are the BEST houses to LIVE in, not only for access to the ever-changing tapestry of NATURE, but also for safety.

August besieged California with a heat unseen in generations. A surge in air-conditioning broke the state’s electrical grid, leaving a population already ravaged by the coronavirus to work remotely by the dim light of their cellphones. By midmonth, the state had recorded possibly the hottest temperature ever measured on earth — 130 degrees in Death Valley — and an otherworldly storm of lightning had cracked open the sky. From Santa Cruz to Lake Tahoe, thousands of bolts of electricity exploded down onto withered grasslands and forests, some of them already hollowed out by climate-driven infestations of beetles and kiln-dried by the worst five-year drought on record. Soon, California was on fire.

Over the next two weeks, 900 blazes incinerated six times as much land as all the state’s 2019 wildfires combined, forcing 100,000 people from their homes. Three of the largest fires in history burned simultaneously in a ring around the San Francisco Bay Area. Another fire burned just 12 miles from my home in Marin County. I watched as towering plumes of smoke billowed from distant hills in all directions and air tankers crisscrossed the skies. Like many Californians, I spent those weeks worrying about what might happen next, wondering how long it would be before an inferno of 60-foot flames swept up the steep, grassy hillside on its way toward my own house, rehearsing in my mind what my family would do to escape.

But I also had a longer-term question, about what would happen once this unprecedented fire season ended.

I had an unusual perspective on the matter. For two years, I have been studying how climate change will influence global migration. My sense was that of all the devastating consequences of a warming planet — changing landscapes, pandemics, mass extinctions — the potential movement of hundreds of millions of climate refugees across the planet stands to be among the most important. I traveled across four countries to witness how rising temperatures were driving climate refugees away from some of the poorest and hottest parts of the world. I had also helped create an enormous computer simulation to analyze how global demographics might shift, and now I was working on a data-mapping project about migration here in the United States.

So it was with some sense of recognition that I faced the fires these last few weeks. In recent years, summer has brought a season of fear to California, with ever-worsening wildfires closing in. But this year felt different. The hopelessness of the pattern was now clear, and the pandemic had already uprooted so many Americans. Relocation no longer seemed like such a distant prospect. Like the subjects of my reporting, climate change had found me, its indiscriminate forces erasing all semblance of normalcy. Suddenly I had to ask myself the very question I’d been asking others: Was it time to move?

I am far from the only American facing such questions. This summer has seen more fires, more heat, more storms — all of it making life increasingly untenable in larger areas of the nation. Already, droughts regularly threaten food crops across the West, while destructive floods inundate towns and fields from the Dakotas to Maryland, collapsing dams in Michigan and raising the shorelines of the Great Lakes. Rising seas and increasingly violent hurricanes are making thousands of miles of American shoreline nearly uninhabitable. As California burned, Hurricane Laura pounded the Louisiana coast with 150-mile-an-hour winds, killing at least 25 people; it was the 12th named storm to form by that point in 2020, another record. Phoenix, meanwhile, endured 53 days of 110-degree heat — 20 more days than the previous record.

For years, Americans have avoided confronting these changes in their own backyards. The decisions we make about where to live are distorted not just by politics that play down climate risks, but also by expensive subsidies and incentives aimed at defying nature. In much of the developing world, vulnerable people will attempt to flee the emerging perils of global warming, seeking cooler temperatures, more fresh water and safety. But here in the United States, people have largely gravitated toward environmental danger, building along coastlines from New Jersey to Florida and settling across the cloudless deserts of the Southwest.

That whole article is about Spreading FEAR. In fact, most of the News articles you post about Coronavirus and now about 'Man-Made' Global Warming are written by Fearmongering Corona-hypers and are steeped in FEAR, trying to scare us.

So you seem to be the Fearful one ...

Yet at the same time that you're posting articles full of Fear of Coronavirus and Fear of Climate Change, you're always telling US that WE are steeped in FEAR, and to get rid of OUR FEAR and projecting that WE are oozing with FEAR ...

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This may sound crazy but our negative fear-based emotions drive the weather on the planet.

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lets tell the real deal instead of all the FEAR MONGERING

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Be not afraid
Have no fear,
For separation
Is the lie,
And if in sadness
You shed a tear
I 'll meet you
In the sky.

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"THEY" are coming for "US"

NOOOOO!!!!!!

F.E.A.R.

(Is this a by product of strict long term raw veganism, psychosis? Stanley Bass?)

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Spiritual teacher Eckhart Tolle goes as far as to describe the need to be right as a form of violence. At its mildest, it is inflexibility. At its height, it manifests as dominance. The compulsion to inflict our opinions of the world on another originates in fear.

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"MY BELIEF HAS TO BE RIGHT OR ELSE I"LL BE EMOTIONALLY DESTROYED, I HAVE TO BE RIGHT!!! (FEAR)"

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Go research about how many hospital workers and law enforcement are coming down with this imaginary disease. Coincidence? No, they are getting hit with a large viral load, more than most, PLUS are in extreme FEAR which compromises the immune system. Wolfe said these contagions basically read your thoughts and LIVE on FEAR.

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You better hope so. I smell some fear, and it's OK!

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People ARE dying at a rapid rate in unprecedented numbers from a common cause of lung infection. I know you want to think you are immune because you eat raw food, but animals in the WILD die of disease as well.

So hypocritical, maybe ...

Just drop the telling us to get rid of the 'Fear'.

As far as I'm concerned, We Skeptics (not necessarily those on the board) have much to fear because we're in a huge battle against -

"They"/The Powers that Be/The Deep State/Masterminds of this Plandemic/World Leaders/Governments in all the Countries in the World/Politicians/Petty Dictators/So-Called 'Scientists/Vaccine Pushers/Democrats Committing Voter Fraud to usher in Socialism/Communism, who are all brilliant and evil.

- and of course -

The Chicken Little/Sheeple/True Believers/Conformists/Pro-Vaxxers who are complicit enablers in all the Countries of the World.

Not to mention the Anarchist/ANTIFA/BLM/Criminal Thug Terrorists...

We are so outnumbered





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Poor baby...

Well, as far as I'm concerned - people who aren't skeptical of this boondoggle, who don't think - WTF? is this a nightmare, are we in the Twilight Zone, Bizarro World? What's up? What are they going to do to us next - they're the outliers. They're the Stepford Wives.

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they going to do to us next - they're the outliers. They're the Stepford Wives.

We loose, you are lost in DIVISION, the lowest form of human thought. The Raw Vegan diet, seems to make people susceptible to this way of thinking. I remember reading Johnny Lovewisdoms last book which I still have, and he was convinced that Hales comet spelled doom on the Earth. Turns out he was going insane from massive B-12 deficiency...

"Most people are merely REACTING to LIFE, they're not really LIVING at all." Bob Proctor...


Again:
“Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and right doing,there is a field. I’ll meet you there.

Additionally, Rumi establishes a firm reality: black and white are man-made. We are familiar with the beautiful and the ugly, the good and the bad, the true and the false. However, below the surface of black and white, there is a gray space we fail to see—a space void of conflicts.

We tend to judge the situations that occur in our life. We label the things we don’t like as “bad” and call the ones we like “good.” Our dualistic mind sections off emotions, thoughts, and events—and we automatically follow it. This mental division is often the main reason behind our inner and outer conflicts.



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We loose, you are lost in DIVISION, the lowest form of human thought. The Raw Vegan diet, seems to make people susceptible to this way of thinking. I remember reading Johnny Lovewisdoms last book which I still have, and he was convinced that Hales comet spelled doom on the Earth. Turns out he was going insane from massive B-12 deficiency...

"Most people are merely REACTING to LIFE, they're not really LIVING at all." Bob Proctor...

Again:
“Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and right doing,there is a field. I’ll meet you there.

Additionally, Rumi establishes a firm reality:black and white are man-made. We are familiar with the beautiful and the ugly, the good and the bad, the true and the false. However, below the surface of black and white, there is a gray space we fail to see—a space void of conflicts.

We tend to judge the situations that occur in our life. We label the things we don’t like as “bad” and call the ones we like “good.” Our dualistic mind sections off emotions, thoughts, and events—and we automatically follow it. This mental division is often the main reason behind our inner and outer conflicts.

I'm no more 'Divisive' and 'Reactive' than you are.

You can stop with the 'meeting in the field' quote. I know it by heart now. Same with the 'good and bad' and 'black and white' judgment talk. I get that's what you espouse.

However - you seem a tad hypocritical to me ...

('white privilege', 'racist', 'Christians', 'Trump', 'white Euro', 'Southerners', 'hillbillies', etc.)

I'm no more 'Divisive' and 'Reactive' than you are.

CORRECT

You can stop with the 'meeting in the field' quote. I know it by heart now. Same with the 'good and bad' and 'black and white' judgment talk. I get that's what you espouse.

However - you seem a tad hypocritical to me ...

CORRECT



HE IS LOST IN DIVISION BETWEEN HIMSELF AND YOU AND OTHERS
AND TOO HYPOCRITICAL and blind TO ADMIT IT.


I will readily admit that I do not follow my principles all the time either.

such as treating others I don't agree with as confused as opposed to evil.
not easy.

Me, too, as far as following my principles all the time.

But I don't think the opposition is Evil or Confused. I think we are born with different brains that work differently, and we are born either Liberal-minded or Conservative-minded - and those in between, Moderate, RINO, Libertarian, etc. - and so when we become a certain age or maturity - like they say 30 - we are pretty much of that mindset.

And as far as the Esoteric Spiritual Philosophy ala NuNativs is concerned, I'm as much into Spirituality and feel connected to the Spiritual World as most others, but when it comes to matters of the Social/Cultural/Political World, I'm operating in the Intellectual Physical Reality of Morals, The Rule of Law, and our Inherent Rights. For example, our Right to Private Property and the Right to Defend Ourselves and our Freedom of Speech and All are Created Equal (but with different attibutes, talents, and dentiny, so that 'Equality'(of outcome) crap is totally impossible and agenda driven), etc. Also Our Sovereignty, and the Sovereignty of Nation States, etc.

Where the Spiritual and Physical World crosses over would be in the case of those who are Born Evil, Without a Soul, if you believe in such, which I do. Such as Psychopaths and many Criminals/Killers. They are who I am Prejudice against, Discriminate against. That is the quintessential Us against Them.

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Me, too, as far as following my principles all the time.

But I don't think the opposition is Evil or Confused. I think we are born with different brains that work differently, and we are born either Liberal-minded or Conservative-minded - and those in between, Moderate, RINO, Libertarian, etc. - and so when we become a certain age or maturity - like they say 30 - we are pretty much of that mindset.

Actually, if 'the opposition' means the Powers that Be and those inflicting this Plandemic to us, I think they're Evil.

If 'the opposition' means just those regular supporters on 'the other side', I don't think they're Evil, but that they're ignorant or naive or not well-informed or just born Liberal.

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Again:
“Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and right doing,there is a field. I’ll meet you there.

Additionally, Rumi establishes a firm reality: black and white are man-made.We are familiar with the beautiful and the ugly, the good and the bad, the true and the false. However, below the surface of black and white, there is a gray space we fail to see—a space void of conflicts.

We tend to judge the situations that occur in our life. We label the things we don’t like as “bad” and call the ones we like “good.”

Umm, so you don't believe in "Good" and "Evil"?

And you operate beyond "Good" and "Evil"?

So you're a Marxist ...

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Does this resonate with you:

[dennisprager.com]

All of my life, I have said that the left’s moral compass is broken.

And all of my life, I was wrong.

Why I was wrong explains both the left and the moral crisis we are in better than almost any other explanation.

I was wrong because in order to have a broken moral compass, you need to have a moral compass to begin with. But the left doesn’t have one.

This is not meant as an attack. It is a description of reality. The left regularly acknowledges that it doesn’t think in terms of good and evil. Most of us are so used to thinking in those terms — what we call “Judeo-Christian” — that it is very difficult for us to divide the world in any other way.

But since Karl Marx, the left (not liberalism; the two are different) has always divided the world, and, therefore, human actions, in ways other than good and evil. The left, in Friedrich Nietzsche’s famous words, has always operated “beyond good and evil.”

It all began with Marx, who divided the world by economic class — worker and owner or exploited and exploiter. To Marx and to Marxism, there is no such thing as a good or an evil that transcends class. Good is defined as what is good for the working class; evil is what is bad for the working class.

Therefore, to Marxists, there is no such thing as a universal good or a universal evil. Those of us still in thrall to Judeo-Christian morality believe that good and evil are universal. In other words, whether an act is good or evil has nothing to do with who committed the act — rich or poor, male or female, religious or secular, member of one’s nation or of another nation. Stealing and murder are morally wrong, no matter who stole or who murdered.

That is not the case for Marx and the left. In Marx’s words in “Capital” (“Das Kapital”):

“Right can never be higher than the economic structure of society and the cultural development thereby determined. We therefore reject every attempt to impose on us any moral dogma whatsoever as an eternal, ultimate and forever immutable moral law.”

Fifty-three years later, Marx’s foremost disciple, Vladimir Lenin, architect of the Russian Revolution, proclaimed:

“We say that our morality is entirely subordinated to the interests of the class struggle of the proletariat. … We do not believe in an eternal morality. … We repudiate all morality derived from non-human (i.e., God) and non-class concepts” (Address to the Third Congress of the Russian Young Communist League, Oct. 2, 1920).

As professor Wilfred Cantwell Smith, director of Harvard University’s Center for the Study of World Religions, wrote in 1957: “For Marxism there is no reason (literally no reason: our universe, the movement posits, is the kind of universe where there cannot conceivably be any reason) for not killing or torturing or exploiting a human person if his liquidation or torture or slave labor will advance the historical process.”

This is how Marx’s ideological heirs, today’s leftists, view the world — with one important difference: Morality is not determined only by class, but by race, power and sex as well.

RACE

It is left-wing dogma that a black person cannot be a racist. Only whites can be racist. And, indeed, all whites are racist.

It is increasingly a left-wing position that when blacks loot, they are only taking what they deserve, or, as the looters often put it, looted goods are “reparations.” A Black Lives Matter organizer in Chicago, Ariel Atkins, recently put it this way:

“I don’t care if somebody decides to loot a Gucci or a Macy’s or a Nike store because that makes sure that person eats. That makes sure that person has clothes. That is reparations. Anything they want to take, take it because these businesses have insurance” (Chicago Tribune, Aug. 17, 2020).

POWER

Another nonmoral left-wing compass concerns power. Just as right and wrong are determined by class (worker and owner/rich and poor) and race (white and people of color), good and evil are also determined by power (the strong and the weak).

SEX

When a woman accuses a man of sexually harassing or raping her, the left’s reaction is not, “Let us try to determine the truth as best we can.” It is, “Believe women.” One must automatically “believe women” because, on the left, it is not only morality that doesn’t transcend race, power, class or sex; truth doesn’t either. That’s why leftists protest and riot whenever a confrontation between a police officer and a black person ends with the death of an unarmed black person. The police officer is automatically racist, and the death is automatically deemed murder. On the left, the concept of objective truth is increasingly deemed a form of white supremacy.

So, then, it turns out I was mistaken all my life. The left’s moral compass is not broken. The left simply rejects such a compass.

Basically, Jenifer, you are too far gone to deal with.. I was hoping to instill some common sense and higher thinking beyond black and white, which you have acknowledged you have memorized, but knowing a thing and LIVING a thing is NIGHT and DAY..

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Basically, Jenifer, you are too far gone to deal with..

Okay, that works for me!

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I was hoping to instill some common sense and higher thinking beyond black and white, which you have acknowledged you have memorized, but knowing a thing and LIVING a thing is NIGHT and DAY..

Oh, you mean like how you espouse your 'higher thinking beyond black and white' and yet your 'knowing a thing and living a thing' is shot to hell when you throw in your 'racist' 'white privilege' 'white Euros' 'colonialism' 'Christians' 'Southerners' 'hillbillies' Rhetoric ...

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Basically, Jenifer, you are too far gone to deal with.. I was hoping to instill some common sense and higher thinking beyond black and white, which you have acknowledged you have memorized, but knowing a thing and LIVING a thing is NIGHT and DAY..

No need to instill anything into me because if there's anything that I and Conservatives deal in, it's COMMON SENSE and LOGIC and FACTS.

For example:

"An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" - If you kill somebody, you should be killed. If you cut off someone's arm, your arm should be cut off, etc.

Babies inside the Mother are the same LIFE as babies who just came out of the Mother.

If an Illegal Alien commits a Crime in America, he should be Deported.

Forced Vaccinations are a Physical Assault, a Crime against Humanity.

People have a God-Given Right to Defend themselves against Assault. If you're Attacked, you have a Right to Fight Back.

Killing People is Morally Wrong unless it's in Self Defense.

Raping People is Morally Wrong.

Sexual Assault on Children is Morally Wrong.

Child Abuse is Morally Wrong.

Cruelty to Animals is Morally Wrong unless it's in Self Defense.

People can Worship and Believe anything they want to.

Stealing someone else's Personal Property is Morally Wrong.

People have a right to defend themselves and their family against a Home Invasion.

A Sovereign Country has a right to defend itself against an Invasion by anyone who is not a Citizen of that Country.

A homeowner has no obligation to Admit anyone into their Home who they don't want to enter their Home.

Likewise, a Sovereign Country has no obligation to Admit anyone into their Country who they don't want to enter their Country.

GULP....(nuff said, you buried yourself, bravo)...
(keep eatin those raw foods, it's workin for ya)



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If an Illegal Alien commits a Crime in America, he should be Deported.

People have a right to defend themselves and their family against a Home Invasion.

A Sovereign Country has a right to defend itself against an Invasion by anyone who is not a Citizen of that Country.

Likewise, a Sovereign Country has no obligation to Admit anyone into their Country who they don't want to enter their Country.

Tell that bullshit to the Native Amerikans...

You tell it to the Violent Corrupt Countries.

You tell it to the Communist Countries.

You tell it to the Sh*thole Countries.

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The Indians weren't the first to live in America. They Conquered those who came before them, as those who came before them conquered those who came before them, etc.

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We want to live in a Civil Society. We do not want to live in a Violent Free-For-All, Corrupt, Savage, Barbarian Society, where people go around fighting and killing each other left, right and center. And we do not want to live in a COMMUNIST DICTATORSHIP.

Therefore our Founding Fathers created a Civil Society, with a Constitution - THAT LIMITED THE POWERS OF THE GOVERNMENT. Our forefathers had Morals and Values and wanted others in our country to live by THE RULE OF LAW.

We were and are the greatest, most free, and most prosperous (thanks to Capitalism, which has lifted up much of the Whole World out of poverty) Country in the History of the World because of our Ancestors who came over from Europe, created AMERICA and wrote the CONSTITUTION.

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Why don't you go live in Russia, China, Cuba, Venezuela, South America, Africa, Haiti and all those other Nasty, Violent, Dictatorship, Communist, Corrupt, Sh*thole/Hellhole Counties, if you think America is so horrible and that everybody should be able to live in any country they feel like. Oh, did I say Violent?

Oh, and by the way, AMERICA is not the only country with BORDERS - all the other countries are the same. Nobody is allowed to go there and live unless invited to. Oh, that sounds familiar, doesn't it - kind of like your home isn't it? You don't allow anybody into your home without your approval, do you? So you leave your door unlocked all the time? You have no locks on your door, never lock your car door either? And of course you don't believe in guns and defending yourself, do you? I'm impressed with how brave and manly you are!

Poor Jennifer, she LIVES in so much F.E.A.R. of all the "bad" people out there, she has to arm herself to the teeth with penis extensions. Ya you're much more manly than I am...

lol - oh back to the Fear mantra. No answer to my questions.

Do you lock your car and RV at night or even during the day when you leave?

If so, why?

What Country would you like to live in? And it would have to be one that's not "White" and not "Euro" - because you hate Whites and Euro people and they are the cause of all that's wrong in all the world - and one with Open Borders.

Do you think that if America had Open Borders and anybody and everybody who wanted to come and live here could and did, we would be a wonderful, great, happy NON-VIOLENT country?

Do you believe that if we had Open Borders for all, that anybody who came here and wanted to, could collect Welfare or live on what you believe in - Universal Basic Income - that we would be a wonderful, great, happy, NON-VIOLENT County?

Oh, and of course, it would be a nice, clean, tidy looking country, too, not Nasty Trashy Dirty place (like those other Sh*thole Countries are) at all ....

It certainly would not become a Sh*thole Country real fast - no, no ...

And oh, no, there would not be Drug Addicts/Alcoholics galore in this Open Border Utopia of yours - no, no, no.

And No Guns, so of course there would be no Violence whatsoever. No Crime ever.

Oops, forgot - no Private Property, either. So no Stealing other people's 'stuff' because that wouldn't be 'stealing'. It would be Sharing, and I'm sure everybody would be just fine with that, especially the Evil Psychopath Killers, those who didn't get the memo that there is No Ownership, so When someone just takes their Stuff, the What-I-call-Thieves takes the stuff of the Killers, oh, oh, trouble in Paradise ...

Hmmm... I'm starting to get a picture of your Open Border, No Private Property, No Weapons, No 'Working-at-jobs-but-everybody-gets-paid (ala Welfare) by the Wonderful Good Harmless Benevolent Government.





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collect Welfare...

Nasty Trashy Dirty place (like those other Sh*thole Countries are) ....

Sh*thole Country real fast

Drug Addicts/Alcoholics galore...

Guns, Violence Crime.

Evil Psychopath Killers, Thieves Killers

Weapons, Welfare

You forgot the real sign of mental illness, RELIGION. Did you not get your weekly colonic or something? Maybe get some counseling??? I think the father(s) of your children did a number on you.

I heard that newly Christian Matt Monarch is looking for a nanny as his ex distances herself from his insanity...



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collect Welfare...

Nasty Trashy Dirty place (like those other Sh*thole Countries are) ....

Sh*thole Country real fast

Drug Addicts/Alcoholics galore...

Guns, Violence Crime.

Evil Psychopath Killers, Thieves Killers

Weapons, Welfare

So I get the feeling you don't like my Characterizing a Country which Contains the Above Elements as Undesirable ...

So does that mean that you think Introducing Those Elements into America through Open Borders is a good thing and would not cause a problem?

Of course I have to second guess what your point is because all you seem to be able to contribute to The Debate is Ad Hominum Attacks.

You did provide one other concept of yours that was telling - "Religion is a mental disease."

And you seem to think that - What kind of person am I to paint the CRIMINAL ELEMENT as 'bad'! Because that's what and who I am Discriminatory, Prejudice Against - EVIL PEOPLE, CRIMINALS, KILLERS, RAPISTS, PEDOPHILES, CORRUPT POLITICIANS, ETC. And that is what I was saying in my post that Triggered you

So this criticism of yours is a Character Assassination of me ...

Yet you yourself in numerous posts have denigrated people as 'Racists', 'Religious', 'Christians', 'Southerners', 'White', 'White Euros', so what does that mean? What does that say about you?

Hint - Pot Meet Kettle!

Hypocrisy!

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It's a shame because I'd like to have a nice Intelligent Conversation/Debate with 'The Other Side', but all they seem to know is Emotions and Attack mode.



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All that you wrote, and the quotes I extracted is NOT INTELLIGENT/Debate. I'm NOT the other side, I am NO SIDE. WE are ALL Sun/Light, Air, Water and Earth, LIFE in Animation, nothing more.

All the labels you use are mental gymnastics so you can FEEL superior, but you're not. For instance, ALL politicians are corrupt, the system itself IS CORRUPTION. It is ANTI-NATURE. Land "ownership" IS CORRUPTION. The economic system IS CORRUPTION.

You are actually ANTI-LIFE, ANTI-NATURE, the poisonous, evil/live, DESTRUCTIVE Medusa of Amerika that destroys all LIFE that it touches.. Every thought you think you're thinking is being dictated to you for regurgitation...



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All that you wrote, and the quotes I extracted is NOT INTELLIGENT/Debate. I'm NOT the other side, I am NO SIDE.

You are 'the other side' to me. Because you have very different and opposite opinions than I do.You condone Abortion and I don't. You condone Open Borders and I don't. You are into "The Collective," I'm into "Individuality." You disdain Southerners, and I think they're fine. You Hate "Religion" and I think it's okay, you hate "Whites", I think they're OKAY, and many other issues are the opposite of mine, so you are 'the other side.'

You are also not 'NO SIDE', because you speak with distain of 'racists', 'religion', 'Southerners', 'Christians', 'Whites', 'White Privilege', 'White Euros', etc., to use your words, 'The Other'. So that is TAKING A SIDE on issues. For you to be 'NO SIDE', you'd have to agree with everything everybody else said and believed and all their opinions, etc. So don't give me that "NO SIDE" wanna-be-spiritual tripe.

WE are ALL Sun/Light, Air, Water and Earth, LIFE in Animation, nothing more.

More gobbledygook. I never said we weren't all that. We can all be all that and still have different opinions.

All the labels you use are mental gymnastics so you can FEEL superior, but you're not.

No more than you use your 'labels' and your spiritual speak/platitudes to feel superior yourself, and you're not superior either.

For instance, ALL politicians are corrupt, the system itself IS CORRUPTION. It is ANTI-NATURE. Land "ownership" IS CORRUPTION. The economic system IS CORRUPTION.

I think there are some Politicians who are not corrupt; for example, Ron Paul. I do not think that Land Ownership is corruption. Yes, there is corruption in our government, our politicians, our economic system and in all the World. However, that was one of my points - I used the word "CORRUPT" to describe other countries governments and politicians, when I said:

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We want to live in a Civil Society. We do not want to live in a Violent Free-For-All, Corrupt, Savage, Barbarian Society

Corruption is an Undesirable Attribute for a Country and that's why I don't want to admit CORRUPT People and live in one of the MUCH MORE Corrupt Countries

You are actually ANTI-LIFE, ANTI-NATURE, the poisonous, evil/live, DESTRUCTIVE Medusa of Amerika that destroys all LIFE that it touches.. Every thought you think you're thinking is being dictated to you for regurgitation...

No I'm not Anti-Life, because I'm Pro-Life. You're Anti-Life because you're Pro-Abortion!

And all the thoughts you're thinking and regurgitating, have been dictated to you apparently, because in your Manifesto, you've used the word,"WE". "We Believe."

So right back at ya! Pot meet Kettle. Hypocrisy galore.

btw, I can go on forever like this - until you gave up and dropped off the board - (but it's boring for others to read other people's bickering) turning your criticism around and pointing out your own flaws and wrong-think in the process, so yeah ... do you have a mirror in that trailer of yours?

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P.S. - We have different Worldviews, and neither one is superior to The Other, so just try not to be Triggered by what I say and you'll be okay. There's a Safe Space for you over in the Other Health Related Forum if you need it



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You continually have no idea what I'm saying, which is why your responses are all over the place. I'll give you one point, in that you prolifically say nothing at all. You are an agent that keeps the PARADISE at bay, not knowing what you do...

I'll leave when and IF I'm good and ready. You are an interesting phenomenon in your dysfunctionality, while touting the SUPERIORITY of a Raw Vegan Diet. Between you Rose and fresh, somethings amiss...



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