is there anyone here that has had this disease and have had raw help it and can tell me what they know... ive had this undiagnosed now 5 years and finally told what is going on and not sure how to deal with it

The best advice: see a real doctor, an opthalmologist, and follow his or her advice. The wanna-be-diet-cure-doctors on this board are woefully unqualified to give medical advice. Best to ignore the fakes.

I would say to do your best to avoid medical advice! It will cost you and kill you.

Is there anything on curezone.com that you find helpful? "Educating instead of medicating", their mission is.

I say, Ignore the doctors.

I vote for seeing a real doctor for the diagnosis and then following a natural cure if you can find one. Continue to see the doctor to make sure your natural remedies are working.

The advantages of seeing the doctor are:

1) You will find out what you really have;
2) You will know whether your remedies are working or not, and if you need to try something else;
3) The diagnosis will stop your mind from trying to figure out what you have and if the remedies are working.

As a survivor of a very serious illness, I have to agree. You really must listen to your doctor. Ultimately, it is up to you what treatments you are comfortable with, but this sounds pretty serious, and if you don't take care of it properly, it could cause you serious long term problems.

That being said, it would be purely beneficial to you to support any and all conventional treatments you pursue with the healthiest lifestyle you are able to attain. It will only make things that much better. I would look on curezone, and follow the raw diet - it is an anti-inflammatory diet, which would probably be a big help to you, but I wouldn't expect a total cure from that alone.

A friend of mine suffers from serious eye problems as a result of ankylosing spondylitis, and from what I understand, if it ever reaches the point of blindness, it will then be irreversable. So please take care, I don't know if your situation is similar, but it isn't something to take any risks over.

Good luck, and it would be great to hear from you once you decide on a plan of action and to let us know how you are doing,

Sapphire

> I would say to do your best to avoid medical advice! It will cost you and kill you.

>I say, Ignore the doctors.

Ignoring the doctors here could lead to vision loss. The "diet doctors" here have little or no medical training, and are not qualified to give medical advice. In fact it is illegal for them to do so - practicing medicine without a license.

Right, well then the law needs to be changed, or medical training needs to be changed, because right now most western doctors are not qualified to give medical advice either. They cannot show, in a scientific and conclusive manner, how to prevent and/or cure most diseases. Which is not to say they're not smart. Doctors are very smart, it's their current med school training and the subsequent big business of HMO's that's the problem.

Anyway... uveitis - inflammation. Probably you'll be handed some corticosteroid to reduce the inflammation. If I were you, in all honesty, even though I'm anti-modern medicine, I'd take it, just because it's the eyes, and you don't want to mess around with that and end up blind.

Then once your eyes are better, definitely hit the books and learn about inflammation and healing things naturally - there are M.D.'s who have figured out real cures.

The thing is, once you get inflammation in one part of your body, it tends to return and can become chronic if the underlying cause is not dealt with.

Knowledge is always good, then we can make educated choices for our health.

hi folks and thanks for your answers ... what ive been given is prednisolone which has helped the pressure and blurred vision in just one day quite a bit but i nearly had to beg my doctor to send me for blood tests, he said an eye specialist will contact me in a few days and go from there.

i will check on curezone as well

the drops are horrible as they drip down into my nasal cavity from my eye and down my throat .. ive never had heartburn my entire 38 years and the last night and all day today my esophagus feels like its on fire so im just spitting it up as i feel it drip down but i hope that doesnt slow thigns down.

sigh frustrated

Jgunn,

How long have you been raw? Within 1 year of being 100% raw, I had tons of things in my body heal. Have you been raw the entire time you've had this inflammation of the eye?

If you want to heal the inflammation without medication, you might try doing a supervised water fast. But after the inflammation goes away with the fast, it is necessary to have a healthful lifestyle, as your current lifestyle is not healthful enough to prevent such an inflammation.

Jgunn,

That prednisone sounds horrible and I can understand why you don't want to use it. I think you're definitely doing the right thing, though. It's too risky to take chances with your eyesight.

Do you know about Dr. Fuhrman (http://www.drfuhrman.com/). He's an MD and naturopath, actually a Natural Hygienist, and uses fasting and diet a lot in his practice. If I had a serious illness, I'd get on a plane and see him.

I heartily agree with Sapphire and Longtimeraw that most of the raw food consultants and not trained or qualified to deal with illness.

right now most western doctors are not qualified to give medical advice either. They cannot show, in a scientific and conclusive manner, how to prevent and/or cure most diseases - I heartily agree with this; I never suggested you waste money on raw food consultants about this, either - they will just shockingly say stuff like "eat 80-10-10", charge you a month's food allowance, and leave you blind.

Jgunn, I am not being flippant because I have only sight in one eye all my life and I am often told any time there is anything up with that to do what doctors say because (they intone) "god forbid you should lose sight in your only 'good' eye". That makes me all the more cautious _against_ following a doctor's advice about it - it's too precious to mess around with (to me)!

Listen, I can't claim anything for myself, but I was just reading about wheatgrass and how diluted (obviously not with tap water) it can be used in the eye for serious conditions like macular degeneration (is that what it is called?) - that is exactly what I would do - put it in the eye and not use the drug - chlorophyll would be an excellent inflammatory and would not be based on the torture of animals as the drug is - and any that got inside you and your nasal cavity would only do you good! Quite the opposite of heartburn - the opposite effect!

By the way, I saw Fuhrman as a fruitarian years ago - not because I wanted to seek a doctor's advice on anything, but because of maternal worrying about fruitarianism - he told me I didn't have to be fruitarian, I could just be a Natural Hygienist (cooked grains, he meant) - blood results (relayed by a receptionist) showed no deficiencies but D, for which the advice was, not get out and get sunshine for 10 minutes a day, but: take a pill. Take a Vit. D pill! Can you beat it? What's up with that?

You know, I think it is very easy to blur the issue when it comes to the medical profession. If you think about it, what does a doctor learn, what does he/she spend years and years in medical school becoming an expert at? Not health, but illness and injury - how to treat a diseased or broken body. And that information alone is encompassing enough to be a complete profession in of itself - think about how much that entails, you couldn't seriously expect one person to be an expert beyond that limit.

And if I am in a terrible car crash tomorrow, I hope like crazy that I am taken to the nearest emergency room - I wouldn't trust anyone else to be able to put my broken body back together. Same if I have a heart attack - who else has the right experience to deal with it?

I think the whole medical profession needs to add an entirely new and so far unknown branch that deals strictly with health. People who are trained to be able to advise us in maintaining and keeping the best possible health when we are NOT in a state of crisis. And that branch should be completely separate from the "doctors" referred to above.

We do have naturopaths, and fitness instructors and dieticians, but none these are the complete package. Many naturopaths depend upon the sale of supplements to earn their income, and so it isn't surprising to me to hear of people being prescribed a Vit. D pill instead of sunshine or green powders instead of fresh spinach. Other professions look at only one aspect of the big picture.

Think about it, there is a totally separate medical profession that deals with mental health, so why not one that just deals with optimal physical health! That way, the people who would never listen to such unpalatable advice as "lose some weight" or "quit smoking" can stick with the doctors they know and love, and those of us who actually want to know the truth would know where to go to get told the straight facts.

I have absolutely no clue how this could all be brought into reality, but wouldn't it be great? And how in the world would these people be funded - they would have to be above the reach of the pharmaceutical industry and other self interest groups. But I bet there is some genius out there that will eventually figure it all out. Especially nowadays, now that all the baby boomers are looking at their retirement years. They don't want to spend their golden years sitting in a home, fully medicated, at least not all of them! If we can make the profession of educating children into a viable job option, why not this?

How would you make this happen if you had the power?

Sapphire

I like that idea Sapphire- if it was non-profit or philanthropic organization, I think it would do better, as the stigma of trying to make a buck off the latest fad diet or "miracle cure" would be removed. That would be ideal.

Jgunn, I remember I didn't read "diluted wheatgrass", but "filtered" - that would mean strained?

The Fuhrman I referred to who prescribed a D pill is a "famous" doctor who charges 300 per consultation and 250 for phone consultations, and he was not selling Vit. D pills himself - he sure doesn't need to. It would have been easy-peasy to say (or have the receptionist say, since he felt he was too hierarchic to tell me himself), "Get some sunshine."

Greenpeach,

I'm not up on the biochemistry that makes Vitamin D,
Are you sure sunshine would have given you the vit d you needed?

Also, that one experience does not necessarily brand Dr. F as a bad practitioner.

Sapphire, I agree with what you say. I'd be happy to find a good naturapathic physician, herbologist, or practitioner of other natural medicines, without an MD, but with a lot of experience to draw on. Not self-style, self-promoting raw gurus who think it's their way or bust.

Bryan: ive been about 75% raw for about 5 years now ... since about 2002 i think when i first posted on this forum i had cervical cancer and ended up having a hystorectomy.. ive been on and off since hten and mostly reading and lurking as i dont have a whole lotta input in the subject i just go with what my guts tell me generally. the cooked part of my diet consists of whole rice or grains and for some reason i crave bacon every now and then lol

i still have this wicked heartburn but the eye seems to have cleared up some although still blurry and im STILL Waiting for the specialist to call and book me an apointment for blood tests etc.

im in canada .. i may be waiting a long time

personally i have nothing against doctors of any sort natural or not i just wish they (cdn american or any world government) would be more openminded to promoting disease avoidance rather then fixing things after the fact or trying too.
most doctors i go too nearly wince when you mention naturapath, chiropractor or anything else of the sort .. its really too bad all these practitioners cant learn to work in unison instead of against each other

oh I can't believe I didn't think of this earlier- Jgunn, try some of that zeolite NCD! I was chatting with the lady at the Japanese holistic health spa where I get my zeolite, she noticed I was browsing her pamphlet on far infrared therapy (which is supposed to be very good I hear)--- and she said "Don't worry about that, you take zeolite, zeolite works the fastest."

Good luck Jgunn!

sunshine,

maybe u could tell Jgunn what zeolite is

the long and short of it is that it does a purty superior job of removing toxic metals etc.


not sure how it would go for the eye thing
are u suggesting that jgunn put some drops ON the eye? ( it is in a "eye dropper" like kinda package)

or take it internally? ( wouldn't hurt, actually)

but get another opinion when it comes to DIRECT application on the eye

as far as the wheatgrass thing

i did run into a guy long time ago who actually DID have eye problems that were kind of severe ( sorry but can't remember the name of his condition)

and he did a two tier thing for it


he
1) drank the wheatgrass
2) applied it to his eye

he did this for quite some time
and his eye condition did improve which made him a life long fan of wheatgrass

though i don't remember how long he did it for


i myself was never too enamored of it
but if i had eye problems, i'd probably be drinking it by the gallons

( granted that it didn't have mold on it)

greenpeach has a thread about wheatgrass and mold
maybe u should check it out

i'm lucky to have good eyes
i hope to keep it that way

i sometimes forget how lucky i really am

good luck Jgunn

ok sure, zeolite is basically a whole-body purifier and detoxifier and pH balancer.... there are a lot of anecdotal claims on the internet as to its effectiveness in helping people recover from various major illnesses. It received its patent for killing cancer cells.... whether or not it helps with inflammation, I can't say for sure, but my personal belief is that there are probably few things it WOULDN'T help with... especially combined with a raw food diet... just based on my own experiences even, I think it's really neat stuff. I LOVE zeolite, the same way I love the raw diet.

I havent been able to find the zeolite locally here . Is anyone here from vancouver, bc? im in fraser valley and could really use some directions to some local sources of stuff.

on a side note ; specialist appointment today. My eye is still watery almost constantly but the redness and pressure is nearly gone and thank god the drops are almost done

zeolite- usually you can only find it on the internet, it's sold via some weird marketing scheme, I was just really really determined to find a local supplier so that's how I found the health spa. Up until then I was ordering it off the internet.