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new Brit madatory vegan law
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: May 29, 2007 07:34PM

Brits Could Be Forced To Give Up Meat, Milk To Fight Global Warming
Climate hysteria reaches new heights after revelation that government is considering making population switch to vegan diet

Prison Planet | May 29, 2007
Paul Joseph Watson

Global warming hysteria has reached a new peak after it was revealed that the British government is considering forcing the population to give up meat and milk and adopt a vegan diet in the name of fighting climate change.

The move could spell the end of the very definition of British identity - the humble cup of tea along with the roast beef Sunday dinner - and represents the latest brazen effort to regulate and control every minute aspect of our lives under the banner of global warming.

"Secret plans to encourage the nation to give up eating meat are being examined by the Government. A leaked e-mail expresses sympathy for the environmental benefits of a mass switch to a vegan diet - a strict form of vegetarianism which bans milk, dairy products and fish."

"The change would need to be done "gently" because of a "risk of alienating the public", according to the document. The extreme policy is being examined on the basis it could make a major contribution to slowing climate change," reports the London Daily Mail .

If you thought the insanity of Sheryl Crow's solution of only using one square of toilet paper per bathroom visit was kooky, this tops it by a mile. Though after a New York Times editorial called for imposing a carbon tax on the very air we breathe , nothing from these nutcases should surprise us.

As I have outlined before , the more extreme and outlandish the proposals for fighting global warming become, the more people will wake up to the fact that this movement has little to do with saving the earth and everything to do with the state having the excuse to exact suffocating control measures upon the individual.

Should it ever come to fruition, this ridiculous proposal will completely decimate the farming community, a long-time goal of the social architects that have declared war on any kind of self-sustainance or independence from the state.

Since the dawn of time man has hunted and eaten meat but now these control freaks wish to reverse thousands of years of civilized history and topple the food chain itself by stigmatizing meat-eating as a blasphemous insult to mother earth.


The end of the humble British cup of tea?
Reader, even if you adhere to the direst proclamations of the global warming doom mongers and believe the man-made - and in this case animal-made - contribution to climate change, surely you can still see that on the face of it this proposal is completely radical, will devastate the economy and is totally unworkable?

Only the wildest crackpots of the environmentalist cult would dare even dream up such a scheme - yet the British government is seriously considering it!

More reassuringly, judging from the comments on the Mail article, the British people still retain some semblance of common sense.

"If you eat meat you will be fined and if you become a vegetarian you will be rewarded same old story."
"It's a well known fact that plant-eating animals generate more methane from their digestive processes than meat-eaters or herbivores. Surely, therefore, to minimise climate change we should be vigorously opposing vegans and vegetarians on the basis that they are contributing excessively to global warming."

"The simple truth is that the as-yet unproven theory of global warming is allowing every crank and nutcase on the planet to jump in and try to run our lives for us and the politicians, the greatest nannies of all, are only too happy to play along."

"Some people simply wouldn't be able to live on a strictly vegetarian diet because of health reasons! Try eating only fruits and vegetables if you have an open ulcer wound. I just can't stop wondering what kind of virus has taken over the minds of some British people recently? The proposals some are coming up with are good subjects for horror movies!"

"Just imagine what the history syllabus of future generations might include if ever any of these ideas were documented as a way of preventing the current climate change - which could be a natural event anyway and nothing at all to do with CO2 emissions. Future generations will think we were all highly ignorant lunatics accepting a dictatorship Government!"

elnatural

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Re: new Brit madatory vegan law
Date: May 29, 2007 07:41PM

As a Brit myself, I really can't see that happening....any time soon.


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Re: new Brit madatory vegan law
Posted by: dream earth ()
Date: May 29, 2007 08:09PM

What a disgusting right-wing news article this is; it isn't funny to read the vapid ignorance of this journalist. Global warming is not "natural," nor is it at question on any rational scientific front; it is a consequence of human behavior which includes to a massive extent the production of animals for food. If our species is going to survive another hundred years, we all have to make sacrifices. Switching to a plant based diet is a small one.

Force the change you want to see in the world through direct, socialist democracy!

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Re: new Brit madatory vegan law
Posted by: Berlinpathos ()
Date: May 29, 2007 09:20PM

Hm. As much as I'd like to say mandatory veganism would be cool, it's still taking away human rights. (Even though it would be awesome for animals.)
People have the right to abuse their bodies if they want to.
Yeah, I don't see this happening anywhere anytime.

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Re: new Brit madatory vegan law
Posted by: anaken ()
Date: May 30, 2007 12:23AM

while I agree this seems far fetched

>> People have the right to abuse their bodies if they want to.

Basically what is implied here is that : People have the right to abuse their bodies if they want to by abusing and taking away the rights of animals

taking away a government structured meat and dairy subsidized system (which certainly could work as an option instead of outlawing meat/dairy) would not in any way be taking away human rights. whatever ones position is on animal rights..no one has the 'right' for meat and dairy products to be delivered to their doorstep/local marketplace. Just like, i might add we don't have a 'right' to organic unsprayed produce.

the government already usurps people's right to 'abuse themselves' with a variety of substances. also suicide. these of course can be argued as well as whether these are rights of individuals or of the state to take away...puts this issue in a different light though.

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Re: new Brit madatory vegan law
Posted by: meow ()
Date: May 30, 2007 04:55AM

i'm actually glad that people are sort of waking up to the fact that one of the most important things a person can do to reduce his/her co2 emissions is eat vegan. it's also probably one of the hardest in most people's minds, which is why no one is talking about it! that and the fact that, in the US, the meat and dairy industries reign supreme and in the good ol' us of a the govt. would probably rather watch the earth fry than lose money by encouraging people to give up meat & dairy. but anyway, my point is that you can drive your prius and change your lightbulbs to energy savers til the cows come home, but if you are truly informed and you truly want to do EVERYTHING in your power to fight global warming before we've run out of time, you've got to at least change your diet to eat less animal products, especially meat. when will people really acknowledge this? i know it seems like an extreme idea to most "normal" people, but we are running out of time and ignorance and denial is not getting us anywhere.

not to mention we could start reversing golbal warming AND the obesity epidemic at the same time! and imagine how happy the animals would be. can you even imagine a world free of animal sufferring? i think all of us would probably wake up with a smile every day, leap out of bed, throw open the door and run outside to dance and sing in the street! i know i would winking smiley

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Re: new Brit madatory vegan law
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: May 30, 2007 01:39PM

Eating animals doesn't create more co2 it destroys trees that convert co2 into oxygen. That is the real problem with eating cows. The habit of eating cows will have all rain forests destroyed by around 2030. The amazon is going very quickly. The oxygen percentage of air is going down. It used to be much higher.

elnatural

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Re: new Brit madatory vegan law
Posted by: meow ()
Date: May 31, 2007 04:25AM

not to mention that approximately 80% of the grain we grow in the USA is used to feed livestock that are only going to be slaughtered for meat. if everyone in america stopped eating meat, we could use that grain to feed to people and pretty much end world hunger. (not that this would be an overnight thing, but the demand for breeding tons of livestock would go down so there would gradually be less and less cows to eat the grain...make sense? i'm not saying we should starve the cows to feed people, lol.)

but people hear this and say, "oh, that's nice," and then they go order a cheeseburger. in one ear, out the other. it's really frustrating but i still refuse to believe it's a lost cause...

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Re: new Brit madatory vegan law
Posted by: joewood ()
Date: May 31, 2007 09:31AM

I remember watching the news circa 1976 when my kids were little. Does anyone remember all the hullabaloo over the coming ICE AGE!! If your weatherman on the 11 o'clock news can't accurately predict what tomorrow will be like using all of the satellite & computer technology at his fingers what would make anyone think some scientist can predict 2020, 2030,2070 using that same technology.

I think el_natural is right. It's just another way for big brother to dictate how we all should live. THAT MY FRIENDS IS "THE INCONVENIENT TRUTH".

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Re: new Brit madatory vegan law
Posted by: SPARKLE ()
Date: May 31, 2007 12:32PM

Joewood - you are absolutely correct.

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Re: new Brit madatory vegan law
Posted by: coconutcream ()
Date: May 31, 2007 01:30PM

I want to move to England, in summers, they seem more health conscious. I am not too sure. I heard that CODEX is mostly european.


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Re: new Brit madatory vegan law
Posted by: YogaLee ()
Date: May 31, 2007 01:32PM

There will never be a manditory vegan law in the UK (or anywhere else for that matter....unless we're talking way way in the future perhaps, but still highly unlikely)

Consider the source. Not exactly the most reliable news source.

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Re: new Brit madatory vegan law
Posted by: dream earth ()
Date: May 31, 2007 03:38PM

No, "big brother" is out there saying that global warming doesn't exist; you are listening to him and the Bush administration when you say it isn't real. Panels of independent international scientists highly trained in their field, however, show that we are causing catastrophic changes to the planet that threaten our own existence. There is no government that is behind it; the governments and corporations of the industrialized world are trying to resist changing to preserve our lives for money, and you are their agents, elnatural and joewood; I hope that makes you feel good, and you can sleep well at night wholly ignorant of the thousands of reliable studies showing that human caused global warming is here and it is escalating. Apparently you'd be happier dead; but those of us who care are going to bring about change whether you like it or not. Your generation is big brother.

Force the change you want to see in the world through direct, socialist democracy!

[www.dreamingearth.net]

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Re: new Brit madatory vegan law
Posted by: kwan ()
Date: May 31, 2007 03:58PM

Dream earth had it right-- we need to wake up to the fact that global warming is a reality, and its effects are bearing down upon us right now. This isn't some isolated, nutty idea, like the negative planetary alignment and 'planet X' theories that pop up on the Internet; it's quantifiable and its effects are increasingly showing up all over the globe. Companies like Exxon are trying to furiously counteract global warming truth by spreading lies and half-truths. Our government regularly takes official scientific reports and removes the 'offending' facts from them-- meaning anything that alludes to strongly to the fact of global warming.

We need to wake up now and support activists and candidates that have a glimmer of undertanding about global warming's effects, because right now the U.S. is holding back the world's progress against it by not participating in the Kyoto protocols. We should be leading the way, rather than stonewalling and thwarting it.

Sharrhan:


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Re: new Brit madatory vegan law
Posted by: ananga ()
Date: June 01, 2007 05:23AM

well... in india in some regions is prohibited to sell meat by law... (it is not prohibited to consume meat though...)..
so why it cannot happen to any other place? that would be fun smiling smiley


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Re: new Brit madatory vegan law
Posted by: arugula ()
Date: June 03, 2007 02:56PM

They don't have to force anyone, but taxing such products highly, like they do with tobacco and alcohol, would do a lot to curb consumption. Those who would protest most, the producers of such products, could be given tax breaks to switch to producing uncooked plant foods.

It would be very good for the planet and the people, too.

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Re: new Brit madatory vegan law
Posted by: rrraw ()
Date: June 03, 2007 06:21PM

Can you see how crazy people are in the world?

When people are at war (in their minds or physically) against theirselves or the world they don't feel well. Stress and depression is the result. And if they're stressed and depressed, they've got that to focus on and that could take a lot of energy that could be spent on changing eating habits. Further on, if people don't have a way out of it, they're gonna have to shut it up some way. That's what drugs and alcohol are for. Hamburgers and crisps are socially accepted drugs. And THEN, how could they change their eating habits? If someone says stop it, that person threatens the one thing that gives them a break from their situation.

This is the reason I love God. The more I attack, the more I lose and it manifests as mental and in turn pysical deseases. So, as we say in the raw community: stop focusing on treating the symtoms - get to the cause! As long as we don't heal it, there's always gonna be resistance for these sort of laws.



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