I've noticed a lot of people saying they're 75%, 90% and even 98% raw. What is a good percent to be at for someone starting off as a raw fooder. And then, what is a good % to be at for someone after 6 months, and then someone after a year?

Is everyone here a 100%? What percent are you, so I can get an idea what is average of a raw fooder.

I think this is very personal to each individual, just do what works for you. I started off at about 50% raw, and over about 6 months went to somewhere between 80%-100%. I stayed varying between 80-100 for about 4 years and now, after being raw for about 5 years I'm about 99.9% raw!

Hope this helps.

Rob

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Rob Hull - Funky Raw
My blog: [www.rawrob.com]

My percent raw varies from day to day, I dont worry about it too much. I dont really ever go below 50% though, because below that I would start feeling kind of parched & out of sorts. Even approaching 50% I start to feel it and start madly craving watery fruits & veggies. Ive been raw for a year.

i find that i can't eat much cooked otherwise i feel awful, even though i wanted to start eating a little cooked quinoa, rice, or a potato, i found that i couldn't anymore.

I think that to be a "raw foodist", for starting out, you don't necessarily need any specific percent as much as you need a commitment - based on some personal experience that raw is good. It's the commitment that will carry you through eventually to the percent that's right for you.

I agree with Funky Rob that it's very personal to each individual.



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well, here's another one of my makes you think "answers"

what percent do you have to be to be a doctor?
what percent do you have to be to be a pilot?
what percent do you have to be to be a race car driver?
what percent do you have to be to be a married?
what percent do you have to be to be a policeman?
what percent do you have to be to be an air traffic controller?
what percent do you have to be to be an engineer?
what percent do you have to be to be a chemist?
what percent do you have to be to be a dentist?
what percent do you have to be to be a lawyer?
what percent do you have to be to be a an architect?
what percent do you have to be to be a musical virtuoso?

now back to the original question
what percent do you have to be to be a raw foodist.
translation:
how little raw food can I eat and still pretend I'm a raw foodist.

Answer: if you're in to pretending and make believe none at all.

I'm a raw foodist meaning 100%
elnatural

Elnatural, that makes sense - how can someone 25% raw or 10% raw be considered a raw foodist!

elnatural_1 Wrote:
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> well, here's another one of my makes you think
> "answers"
>
> what percent do you have to be to be a doctor?
> what percent do you have to be to be a pilot?
> what percent do you have to be to be a race car
> driver?
> what percent do you have to be to be a married?
> what percent do you have to be to be a policeman?
> what percent do you have to be to be an air
> traffic controller?
> what percent do you have to be to be an engineer?
> what percent do you have to be to be a chemist?
> what percent do you have to be to be a dentist?
> what percent do you have to be to be a lawyer?
> what percent do you have to be to be a an
> architect?
> what percent do you have to be to be a musical
> virtuoso?
>
> now back to the original question
> what percent do you have to be to be a raw
> foodist.
> translation:
> how little raw food can I eat and still pretend
> I'm a raw foodist.
>
> Answer: if you're in to pretending and make
> believe none at all.
>
> I'm a raw foodist meaning 100%
> elnatural


I fail to see the intelligence in this conclusion.

Does a nudist run around naked 24/7? Some do, some don't, yet they are both nudists.

Does a scuba diver stay in the water 24/7?

Am I really not a professional xyz, when I am not working?

Is a dancer, not a dancer, when she is hiking?

All these are examples, of when something is a very large part of someones life, then they earn the title.

El Natural, Rawrrr!, you have made some rather deep posts!

awesome rebuttal rawrrr!

my 2 cents:

jumping into a 100% raw cleansing diet of fruits/vegies is not a good idea

jumping into a 100% raw (anything to stay raw) is a joke.

a 100% raw diet of fruits and vegetables after going through a bulk of physical/emotional/thought detox is a great gift

eating a small ammount of simple cooked food in good combinations with simple unmodfied/fresh fruits and vegies if it brings great joy can be a great lifelong plan.

much better then ultimatiums/dogma dictating your lifes choices

how many animals must one eat to not be considered vegetarian ?

how many cooked meals must one eat to not be considered raw ?

i prefer the definitions "raw" to mean 100% and high raw for over-50%.

i mean, raw is raw is raw - it ain't cooked !

the term "raw-conscious" is useful for those aware of the health benefits of raw but just getting into it, struggling with it and less than 50% or experimenting from time to time.

but it is not about obtaining a holy grail of 100% as much as intuitively deciding what works best for someone as an individual and tailoring transition to each person's unique metabolism and constitution...

paz

To some people the label 'rawfoodist' may be more important for their self-identity, than their actual diet is,

I don't think of or refer to myself as a rawfoodist, I just say that most of the food I eat is raw vegan. When I have been all raw for some length of time, and feel confident about it, I'll probably use it as a part of my identity.

I don't understand Rawrrr's view, since I think elnatual was referring to the training and commitment required by an individual who wants the label 'engineer', etc. Such labels require some kind of established training AND an ongoing commitment to that field of study. CGAs are supposed to read all bulletins released, etc, medical doctors are supposed to stay current by reading med. journals, etc. I know two men who got an engineer's degree, but never wound up working in engineering. (One makes beer, the other makes TV ads) Neither of them refers to himself as an engineer for at least two reasons: 1) In Canada, only Professional Engineers can practice engineering and require a post-grad internship of 4 years with a licensed PEng establishment, then passing grades on the PEng exams. 2) They never worked as engineers.

I know a PEng who lost his job in corp. downsizing and couldn't find work in his field again for nearly 10 years, but he was always striving to get a job as an engineer and eventually he did. He still thought of himself as an engineer because of his commitment to his profession and his efforts to use his training.

I know a woman who calls herself a nurse. She did train and work as a nurse over 50 years ago, and in her mind she still is one - but to me she is not. It must be important to her identity to be a nurse.

If a rawfoodist goes hiking, she's still a rawfoodist. But if she regularly eats cooked food, ..... well, not so much.

If a vegetarian regularly eats flesh, this is a vegetarian only in his mind, not in practice.

So I guess it depends if you think a rawfoodist is someone who says so, or if it's someone who is committed and practicing it.

Opinion:

-Being a raw-foodist is about being on a path that is right for YOU. It is about what you are doing....and going....and not where you ARE. You are a mountain-climber if you are climbing a mountain. Doesn't matter if you are at the base or the summit....if one foot is falling in front of another! Ha! ha!

-David Z. Mason

WWW.RawFoodFarm.com

I'm in the Mason camp on this one.

I think it comes down to the question, "what does 'raw foodist' really mean?".

"Vegetarian" means a person who never eats meat.

But what about "raw foodist"? Does that mean someone who never eats anything cooked, or does that mean someone who aspires to never eat anything cooked?

If a person says they're a "raw food vegan", that seems to be a little stronger in implying that a person eats 100% raw food, or close to it.

But what about "raw foodist"?

Since this is a relatively new term, who decides such things? Webster maybe? (chuckle)

Well, just for the heck of it, I looked up the suffix "-ist" in my Webster's Seventh New Collegiate Dictionary. Definition (3): one that adheres to or advocates a (specified) doctrine or system or code of behavior (socialist) (royalist) (hedonist)......"

Notice the definition says "adheres to OR advocates". So, if we follow Webster's definition of "-ist", then a person who advocates a raw food diet can honestly be called a "raw foodist" even though they are not eating 100% raw food.

A person living under a dictatorship who follows all the laws of the dictatorship can still be called a "socialist" if that is their belief. Or a person living in a capitalistic society can still be called a "Marxist", if that is their belief.

Of course, we don't have to go by Webster. But if we don't agree on using the given rules of the English language to communicate, then who will make up the new rules of communication, and how will we agree to them?

We could still perhaps agree that such a person could NOT honestly call themselves a "raw food vegan".



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There are 2 separate questions here: The first one on the subject line referring to "raw foodist" and the 2nd one in the text that is totally different from the first, and is really the more important question, IMO.



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Re: To be considered a raw foodist, what percent should you be?

I believe percent is not so important as long as uou put one foot after the other toward the goal - but always there is this idea that there must be a progress. Otherwise, being 50% for 20 years, could someone pretend to be rawfoodist?

Some labels are rather exclusive. A little bit of black and the hue is no longer white...

Well.....if you were 'circling the mountain' at 50% for 20 years....I wouldn't refer to myself as a 'mountain-CLIMBER'. Ha! ha! More like a mountain circler..........

-David Z. Mason

WWW.RawFoodFarm.com

I am aspiring to be 100% raw vegan. I tell people I eat mostly raw vegan or I am transitioning to raw vegan. But I am a raw foodist because I believe in it and aspire toward it.

Pakd4fun wrote:

"But I am a raw foodist because I believe in it and aspire toward it."

I think that this is right. It is good and profitable to see oneself as one aspires to be rather than as one presently is. This is how a vision unfolds and how we grow into our destiny or dreams for the future.

Of course there are those who talk and never do: the wannabes who want the glory but don't have the guts. But if an individual is slowly but surely moving away from their comfort zone and making a consistent effort in the direction of their goals: in this case to become a high-raw foodist, then it seems to me completely honest to consider themselves as having earned the title.

just my take,

khale

If you own a $400 blender and no microwave oven, you might be a raw foodist.

inspirit - aka coolkarma

LOL, inspirit!

I bet you're right! What kind of person would own a $400 blender, but no microwave oven, except for a rawfoodist?

(although of course you can be a rawfoodist without a blender!)

That's funny!

Hm.

Maybe someone who wasn't a raw foodist, but who just really liked to prepare and cook whatever could have a $400 blender but no microwave.

Or maybe someone who didn't have any teeth.

Too funny inspirit ; )

I guess I haven't arrived yet. My blender cost under $50.00.

Suncloud: check out the Off Topic forum on this board. I've started a "Miss the 7 Week Gang" thread there. Hope to see you.

khale

I own a juicer, blender, dehydrator and processor, probably all worth together $400.00

someone without range and fridge would have no choice but to be a rawfoodist

I also agree with David Z. Mason, that beautiful man.

But my opinion varies slightly. I think people that eat raw at a relatively low percentage (we're talking under 80%ish. I hate the whole percentage estimate, too) for an extended period of time with the aim to be a "raw foodist" are like smokers who "are quitting" and still smoke frequently.

I consider myself a raw foodist because for almost 2 years I have eaten a raw food diet (90-100%: when I modeled, I included shirataki, tofu, and coffee in my diet for a few months. I still eat steamed vegetables if I'm broke and I have fresh vegetables that I consider inedible eaten raw, like broccoli and mushrooms). I ate cooked for a month or two after a hospital stay and I didn't feel the same.

I continue to do it because it is the only thing that keeps me happy, beautiful, and feeling good. Everyone has variations in their diet and is human, and one of the things you will notice about the raw community is that a lot of people try to be martyrs instead of helping eachother. Nobody is perfect. I don't think I can give you an estimate of what "percentage" you need to be.

davidzanemason Wrote:
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> Well.....if you were 'circling the mountain' at
> 50% for 20 years....I wouldn't refer to myself as
> a 'mountain-CLIMBER'. Ha! ha! More like a mountain
> circler..........
>
> -David Z. Mason


ROFL .. perfect haha thats great

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

You're looking very beautiful, rawfrancois! I think you've made some good points there.

cynthia, yup, no range or refrigerator would definitely help keep a person raw!

How about this: A rawfoodist is a person who brings an avocado with them when they go to a fancy restaurant. They order a glass of spring water with a twist of lemon (no ice) and a fruit salad. Then they won't eat the fruit salad because it has some kind of weird poppy seed dressing on it!

Or: A rawfoodist is a person who would much rather stay home and finish off their case of oranges than go to a fancy restaurant.

Or: A rawfoodist is a person who leaves their camera at home when they go on a camping trip, because they need room in their pack for their sprouting equipment!

Oh well, not as funny as inspirit's!

Hi Khale, I'm on my way over there. Thanks!



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I think we ALL are raw foodists. Sometimes we just eat against natural instincts ha ha!

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