According to several sources that I frequent regularly, the new "Obamacare" health plan that is being relentlessly pushed comes with a few strings attached;

One of which is Mandatory Vaccinations, so we will all be safe from the big bad H1N1 & other nasties...

Even if you do not elect to take the "free" healthcare, they are still talking about mandatory Vaccinations, I understand Baxter has already started shipping the vaccines to schools.

[www.infowars.com]


It just never seems to end...nationalize everything...

So, if you don't mind being injected with - let's see , where is the list...Oh yeah...

straight from the CDC website vaccination ingredients list...
"Bovine serum, monkey brain culture, Aluminum hydroxide, formaldehyde, mouse serum..."

Probably most of you know the dangers of this goop that is injected into the human body in the name of "Modern Science & Medicine", but if not, here is a link to the CDC website containing the list of big dollar/money making, err, I meant life saving ingredients. ;(

[www.cdc.gov]

If you all have school age children, you might want to contact the superintendent towards the beginning of the school year to see if they know anything about this.

We have home schooled our child all along, but this year he wants to go to school, so we are looking at a local private school. You can bet I will be contacting them in regards to this matter.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/25/2009 08:51PM by juicerkatz.

Truly socialized healthcare would be a blessing to just about everyone who is now struggling under the high costs of the present system, but ultimately it looks like we will keep the present system with very little change, and people will continue to suffer.

Mandatory vaccinations would be something else again. This issue rears its head every so many years, and generally nothing ever comes of it. I find infowars interesting and sometimes informative, but I have to take a lot of what's printed on that website with a big grain of salt.

Sharrhan:


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"but I have to take a lot of what's printed on that website with a big grain of salt."

Yeah, I tend to agree; I am not a real big fan of Alex Jones, but I do like the fact that he is not afraid to speak his mind. I like it that he will take on the gov't./politicians/special interest lobby groups etc. and expose them for what they truly are.

The Mandatory vaccination thing is a real cause for concern though, in my opinion; This country is headed in a new direction which I for one am very uncomfortable with.

I am totally in favor of socialized medicine, in that the current for-profit system is corrupt and health-destroying, and because there's good reason it is an attribute of a civilized democracy. There is no way, unfortunately, that socialized medicine could be applied here in an uncorrupted form because the avarice of financially concerned parties precedes it into being.

As far as I know, each state will still possess the right to accept waivers, of medical, religious, or philosophical nature, from parents and guardians averse to immunizing their kids. And I don't think the president has enough hours in his day to weasle nefarious provisions into thousand page health plans, frankly. I go into a coma just thinking of the bureaucratic red-tape . . .zzzzz . . .

From what I have heard the insurance policy is far from mandatory. Basically all it does is if you don't have health insurance through work or cannot get health insurance there will be a public plan you can join. Also they will probably expand Chip coverage. I know of only a few court cases where vaccination was forced. In PA, a waiver can be signed if you did not or do not want your children to be vaccinated so they can still attend public school. Catholic schools don't require children to be vaccinated because of the issue with vaccines being made from aborted fetal tissue. So there is an option. To be honest I'm not a big fan of Alex Jones because I am very much against the Us and Them mentality of calling cops agents of the new world order etc.

The whole idea of a h1n1 vaccine scares me. Didn't they learn anything the first time? Doesn't this disease also show that human to animal transmission can occur easily, maybe even easily enough that vaccines containing animal tissue could cause more harm then good? Or should we just ignore that mad cow disease and autism are both neurological disorders?

[salsa.democracyinaction.org]

Great link, lisa m

That is the kind of info. I am hearing from more than one source. The websites/radio shows that I visit/ listen to *specialize* in exposing "the big lie", and this forced vaccination thing could be the real deal.

I urge others to get involved in the resistance by contacting the appropriate representatives to nip this thing before it is too late...hopefully.

Refuse and Resist Mandatory Flu VaccinesTargetresident Obama, US CongressSponsored by: Lori Price, Citizens For Legitimate GovernmentRefuse and Resist Mandatory Flu Vaccines
[legitgov.org]
[www.legitgov.org]
We petition President Barack Obama, the US Congress, and all US security and health agencies to abort any plans for mandatory influenza vaccines. Also, we pledge to refuse and resist any government laws that require us to submit to forced vaccines and drugs. We recognize that mandatory vaccines are thinly-veiled attempts to grow the pandemic in order to enrich the coffers of US pharmaceutical and security corporations -- the actual architects of the flu pandemic.
We will not comply.

We, the undersigned, recognize that the US government and pharmaceutical industries have been conspiring for years to engender a flu pandemic:
Killer flu recreated in the lab 07 Oct 2004 Scientists have shown that tiny changes to modern flu viruses could render them as deadly as the 1918 strain which killed millions. A US team added two genes from a sample of the 1918 virus to a modern strain known to have no effect on mice.
Experimental Infection of Pigs with the Human 1918 Pandemic Influenza Virus By Hana M. Weingartl, et al. 18 Feb 2009 --Received 19 Nov 2008/ Accepted 6 Feb 2009 Swine influenza was first recognized as a disease entity during the 1918 "Spanish flu" pandemic. The aim of this work was to determine the virulence of a plasmid-derived human 1918 pandemic H1N1 influenza virus (reconstructed 1918, or 1918/rec, virus) in swine using a plasmid-derived A/swine/Iowa/15/1930 H1N1 virus (1930/rec virus), representing the first isolated influenza virus, as a reference.
Baxter working on vaccine to stop swine flu, though admitted sending live pandemic flu viruses to subcontractor 26 Apr 2009 Specialty drug maker Baxter International Inc. will work with the World Health Organization to develop a vaccine that could stem an outbreak of a deadly swine flu strain in Mexico. Baxter spokesman Christopher Bona said Saturday that the Deerfield, Ill.-based company has asked the WHO for a sample of the flu strain. He says Baxter has patented technology that allows the company to develop vaccines in half the time it usually takes -- about 13 weeks instead of 26.

We also recognize the hazards of an untested, unchecked, unnecessary and possibly deadly vaccine:
Administration readies $350 million for state, local responders to combat flu pandemic --The Obama administration said today that it has billions of dollars available to help pay for a national H1N1 flu vaccine program that could be ready starting in mid-October. 08 Jul 2009 Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius made the announcement at an all-day summit on the outbreak of what is more commonly known as swine flu. Sebelius said the government has "already appropriated about a billion dollars to buy the bulk ingredients" [i.e., influenza viruses, Neomycin, Polymyxin, Gentamycin, Thimerosal (mercury), Betapropiolactone, Nonoxynol, Octoxinol 9, Formaldehyde - yum yum! -LRP]
H1N1 Flu: UK to vaccinate 30 people an hour in 'military-style operation' --Swine flu vaccine to be cleared after five-day trial 12 Jul 2009 It will be introduced into the general population while regulators continue to carry out simultaneous clinical trials. The first patients in the queue for the jab - being supplied to the UK by GSK and Baxter Healthcare - may understandably be a little nervous at any possible side effects. A mass vaccination campaign against swine flu in America was halted in the 1970s after some people suffered Guillain-Barr%u9833yndrome, a disorder of the nervous system.
Everyone will get vaccine against swine flu 12 Jul 2009 The NHS is preparing to vaccinate the entire population against swine flu after the disease claimed the life of its first healthy British patient.
Homeless people die after bird flu vaccine trial in Poland --Three Polish doctors and six nurses are facing criminal prosecution after a number of homeless people died following medical trials for a vaccine to the H5N1 bird-flu virus. 02 Jul 2008


Lastly, we will not succumb to any forced flu shots:
The Truth about the Flu Shot 10 Jul 2009 If the government mandates a series of flu shots this fall -- so far they are only "recommending%u201D the shots -- you can expect to get a dose of thimerosal (mercury), formaldehyde, detergent, MF-59 (an oil-based adjuvant), and other toxins. Incidentally, if you believe the government will not kidnap you at gunpoint and lock you in a concentration camp and possibly force you to take these toxins, check out Executive Order 13295 of April 4, 2003. It states that the government has the authority to establish "regulations providing for the apprehension, detention, or conditional release of individuals to prevent the introduction, transmission, or spread of suspected communicable diseases," including diseases at that time "not yet isolated or named." Of course, the government will decide if you have a deadly disease or not.

Sincerely,
The Undersigned.

Lori R. Price
Managing Editor
Citizens For Legitimate Government
[www.legitgov.org]



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It is ridiculous that they are using the Patriot acts as the enforcing documents regarding this matter; According to the Patriot act(s) if one does not accept/agree to the mandatory vaccines he will be considered a terriorist -

"The United States Emergency Medical Powers Acts and Federal legislation, including the Patriot Acts I, II and III, BARDA and others provide for mandatory vaccination or drugging. No exemptions (religious or otherwise) are provided. Those who refuse will be classified as felons at the State level,

subject to immediate incarceration and quarantine of indefinite length in jails or other facilities reserved for such "vaccine refusers."

"In a frightening "Big Lie" propaganda move, those who doubt the effectiveness of unproven, uninsurable vaccines are being called " Vaccine Resisters" and being equated to a new form of "terrorism."

Those who refuse at the Federal level will be subject to immediate incarceration and quarantine of indefinite length, probably in FEMA camps set up across the US.

That means that untested, potentially lethal vaccines and dangerous drugs like Tamiflu could be forced upon people who do not wish them and who would face incarceration or worse if they choose not to accept them. The CDC has said that there would be no exemptions and that there would be "a certain amount of human wastage".

Beautiful, just beautiful...This is the America that my Father & Brother defended/risked their lives for in WWII & Vietnam/Korea.

Stop the world, I want to get off!!! I don't want to be considered "human wastage".

I guess this is the "Hope & Change" that we all heard so much about the last two years?!?!?

guys, this is freaking scary. even scarier when i think about the stupid right wing conservative a$$hats that are running the country over here in canada right now. farg.

juicerkatz,

It is not possible for this to be implemented. Now, now, calm down, I am not one of those rah-rah-centralized-government ideologues. I just think the bureaucracy involved would make this unimplementable. My litmus test for stuff like this is whether Joseph Stalin could pull it off, because if anyone could, it's he. And I don't think he could. I don't usually say things like this, but thank goodness for the ACLU. I cannot imagine their standing by and letting this happen.

Some more info. -

[www.nvic.org]

It is not possible for this to be implemented. You got that right
LIVE FREE OR DIE, We have a right to revolution, and the day some clone tries to role up my shirt, I know I speak for many of my combat vet friends. one pill we wont swallow. The people shall never be defeated! remember its a culture of fear. dont fall in

I remember in the 1970s when the government was trying to immunize everyone against swine flu, it never became mandatory-- I certainly didn't get a shot! Thousands of people had the shots, but no one forced you to do it if you didn't want it.

Sharrhan:


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riverhousebill, you are a combat vet? Didn't the give you vac. & other meds in the military? I would call those forced.

Political immunology





SWINE FLU:
NEW PANDEMIC OR JUST MAKIN' BACON?
- Tim O'Shea







Yes Kwan 1976-the enormous swine flu vaccine program of 1976 - the worst vaccine disaster in US history - was set into motion before swine flu had ever been validated as a serious disease for humans, let alone proven capable of causing an epidemic.

So predictable, within the context of smallpox, anthrax, SARS, avian flu. As predicted 4 months ago in new 13th ed. of the vaccine book, we knew the next orchestrated health crisis was coming [4] - we just didn't know what it would be called. Disappointing really that they lacked the imagination to come up with a brand new global panic; so all we get is a re-run of the 1970s swine flu fiasco.

Unlike the hysterical media, let's define our terms first, instead of just assuming everyone knows historically what swine flu really is.

HISTORY OF SWINE FLU

Back in 1976 a soldier at Fort Dix died in a training exercise on a very hot day. A very mild virus that came to be known as swine flu virus was found in his body, though never proven to be the cause of death. Just as probable he died of overexertion, since it was a hot muggy day and they were on a training exercise. The virus was a member of the H1N1 virus family reportedly found in hogs, which had not previously been transmitted to humans. So nothing was known of its virulence or its ability to cause even a local outbreak, let alone a global epidemic. There was no evidence that it could be a serious disease for humans, since it had never before been found in humans. [3]

Notwithstanding those facts, the National Institutes of Health took up the gauntlet, and massive media coverage hawking the beginning of a global pandemic was conjured up out of nothing. Even though there were no further cases, during the next several months a swine flu vaccine was quickly created. The vaccine was never tested in any large setting. Abundant data were available however documenting the dangers and unpredictability of this untested new vaccine. Little wonder: the new vaccine wasn't even made from the original mild swine flu pathogen.

Because they were under the gun in trying to get the vaccine out ASAP, the vaccine makers merged the natural H1N1 swine flu virus with an extremely virulent manmade strain in order to make the vaccine more reactive in people. [3] Though the dangers of the powerful new vaccine were well known, the next sequence of events showed how human health is always subordinate to the agendas of political immunology.

Now it just so happened that in July 1976, by an unfortunate coincidence some 221 people in a Philadelphia hotel came down with a mysterious disease that was immediately dubbed Legionnaires Disease. 34 of them eventually died with the cause of death unverified. As luck would have it, this was right at the same time that NIH had just decided not to go through with recommending the swine flu vaccine for everyone.

These two unrelated events became tied together in the game of political immunology. Here's how it happened:

At first Congress would not approve the mass swine flu program because the vaccine manufacturers said they wouldn't accept responsibility for any people damaged by the new vaccine. So the NIH had decided to shelve the swine flu program. [3]

But meanwhile the media behind Legionnaires Disease became more and more intense day by day, eerily similar to what was going on in Apr 2009. There was a growing suspicion, based on nothing and fostered by the shrill and irresponsible media, that Legionnaires Disease might actually be swine flu, even though CDC knew that was not true. The policymakers were under intense political pressure to "do something."

So in a few midnight sit-downs during a four day period, three things suddenly were hastily decided:


1. The Legionnaires Disease cases were definitely not swine flu

2. Congress decided the government would accept responsibility for any deaths or damages from a swine flu vaccine program

3. The next day the mass swine flu vaccine program was adopted.


Everybody was happy with this solution:

no more worry about the possibility of 2 epidemics
everyone would be protected from swine flu by the vaccine
the vaccine manufacturers got to make several million dollars
the FDA and NIH had once again saved the American people from disaster

Unfortunately it didn't quite work out as expected: 565 of the newly vaccinated people became paralyzed from a nerve disorder called Guillain Barre syndrome, 25 of whom died. So the swine flu vaccine program was halted in just 10 weeks, after over 40 million people had received it. Their original goal had been to vaccinate the entire population. No one but that one soldier ever died, and there was no epidemic of swine flu, even though the media at the time estimated that up to 60 million Americans could become infected unless they vaccinated. [6] So get that: after the money was spent, the threat disappeared.

Eventually the government paid out almost $400 million in claims. [3]

To recap, the enormous swine flu vaccine program of 1976 - the worst vaccine disaster in US history - was set into motion before swine flu had ever been validated as a serious disease for humans, let alone proven capable of causing an epidemic.

UP TO SPEED: APRIL 2009

So what happened recently? We have conflicting reports of several hundred Mexicans 'infected' with swine flu, 150 of whom are 'believed to have' died from it. In the next few weeks we began to see reports each day of more and more people in the US having come down with the illness, supposedly 70 cases, at first, then more. And then the first US deaths.

From these slim allegations, endless unsubstantiated inferences and predictions were spun:


A global pandemic is in the offing
Thousands of Mexicans will die first
Americans are dying
A vaccine is in the wings
Tamiflu is being ramped up to save us

WHAT DO WE REALLY KNOW?

With the track record of mainstream media during the past several years regarding panics and pandemics, there is precious little reliable information available to us. The first and most important question that must be addressed has to do with the newly reported numbers. Thousands of people get the flu each day and recover from it, and some people who are already sick may die from it. But suddenly here we have media alleging that a novel flu virus causing a brand new disease is afoot. So the only critical issue when reporting these new cases must be: were the patients cultured for the new disease?

And secondly, cultured for what?

Here is the first jumping off point - the departure from reality: within just one week of the 'outbreak' the media had begun its daily tally sheet of numbers infected and numbers dead, which will establish the scorecard pattern we're so familiar with in tracking any disaster. What are they counting? There was no screening test for the disease!


No culture protocols,
no titer amounts,
no incubation periods set,

and what is most important, no specific pathogen has been identified. Without a specific pathogen, there is no epidemic.

ENTER H1N1

During the first weeks, H1N1 was not even mentioned. The cases were just called swine flu - some weird new strain of pig virus. When the bacon people began to complain to Obama, that's when the H1N1 characterization was introduced.

H1N1 is a family of viruses, dozens of viruses. No specific strain of H1N1 was ever shown to be pressent in all these casees, then or now. But the national media was counting all these numbers of cases of the disease even there was no verifiable method for specifically identifying the disease. The cases were being diagnosed by symptoms. This is precisely what happened with the nonexistent Avian flu of 4 years ago. [5] If we're diagnosing by symptoms only, then any case of any flu can be counted. And that's exactly what is happening here.

Hmmm... wonder what they're marketing ...

Did anyone think it rather odd that the first cases of swine flu were coming from Third World areas of Mexico where even basic medical services are often lacking, let alone a sophisticated screening test for a brand new disease, a procedure which would take months to create, even in the most modern of clinical settings? So once again we ask, without a screening procedure, what are they counting, in Mexico, in Texas, wherever? And exactly what distinguishes these new cases that are being hourly hawked by every single media service in the known world, what sets these cases apart from ordinary flu cases?

The other question no one is asking is this: what was the incidence of flu in these Mexican towns the same time last year? How about last month? Do you see - without a very specific viral screening test, the numbers mean nothing, except as fuel to the media fire.

So going just this far, it doesn't take much reasoning to grasp that we're being set up here. Unfortunately this is much farther than the majority of the unlettered public will question it.

But we're just getting started with the inconsistencies. What about the pathogen itself?

H1N1 - A FAMILY OF VIRUSES

Let's start at the beginning. In classical pathology, influenza is a disease that is associated with a family of viruses known as orthomyxoviruses. Within this group we have

Influenza A

Influenza B

and Influenza C viruses.

What separates viruses into these 3 groups is the type of antigen present in the virus. [7]

Now, within the Influenza A category is a smaller grouping called the H1N1 viruses. There are dozens and dozens of strains of H1N1. The CDC has tested over 50 different strains of H1N1. [9]

Let's just stop there. For an infectious disease to be identified and characterized, it must be proven to be caused by a specific single pathogen.

Now in the recent 2009 outbreak, they soon realized that they shot themselves in the foot by calling it swine flu in the first week . Since there was no epidemic in 1976, and since obviously no pathogen was ever correctly identified, in light of the ensuing vaccine debacle, it's quite clear that swine flu never existed.


So where does that leave us? H1N1? To call the new disease H1N1 flu is also meaningless, for 2 reasons


- the original Mexican cases were not cultured

- there are dozens of strains of H1N1

So what are all these people coming down with and dying from? Simple: the flu! There is no proof otherwise of any novel pathogen, H1N1 or whatever, introducing any new disease. It's all allegation, conjecture, smoke and mirrors, and marketing. The new cases have nothing in common except diagnosis - and that's being done by symptoms, not by testing.

THE ELUSIVE MYTHIC SCREENING TEST

Once again, during the first month of the marketing of swine flu, there was no screening test in place whatsoever that could be used to verify diagnosis. So that meant that any case of any kind of flu was being counted as swine flu. First it was hundreds, and soon it was thousands of cases being counted with no clinical testing at all. Where did we leave off? :

Remember, 3 subcategories of influenza virus:


Influenza A
Influenza B
Influenza C

As part of the hundreds of Influenza A viruses, what is continually omitted from media is that there are virtually dozens of strains of H1N1, most of which have never been studied. No specific strain of H1N1 has ever been linked to the new swine flu. When Obama came out with his concession to the hog farmers to start referring to the disease as the H1N1 disease, we learned 2 new facts:


1. This new swine flu virus had never been found in swine

2. With dozens of H1N1 strains, it was impossible to verify whether all these people being counted as having swine flu actually do have the same new disease


The deception goes even deeper. But there was no standardized test for H1N1 in general, let alone the specific strain we're calling swine flu. So during the entire first month of the hysteria about swine flu, the cases were being diagnosed BY SYMPTOMS ONLY. If the diagnosis is by symptoms only then there is no way to differentiate swine flu from regular old fashioned flu.

Now the kicker. By the end of May 2009 the CDC finally claimed they had a test for swine flu, which was described both on the CDC website as well as by calling them on the phone. But guess what criterion was a positive diagnosis for swine flu: a simple positive test for Influenza A! Any type of Influenza A, out of hundreds of strains. Not even as specific as H1N1, of which there are only dozens of strains. Don't believe it? Call CDC, or look on their site. Anyone testing positive for Influenza A may be counted as having swine flu!

So to reiterate, for the first month or so there was no screening test at all for swine flu. But a little detail like that didn't stop the media from their daily tally. When a test was finally put into place, the best they could come up with was nothing more than the old Influenza A test, which was not even as specific as an H1N1 test would be. If one existed. .

The agenda is clear here: the marketing of vaccines and drugs. It was obviously a concerted effort to prepare people for the importance of getting the next flu shot in the Fall of 2009. Indeed, on 20 May 09, Associated Press actually admitted as much: there would be a combo vax by the end of the year that would be good for


Swine flu
Avian flu
Regular flu.

A pretty good trick considering that two of the three don't even exist, and also that the flu vaccine we have been using for the last 5 years has had absolutely no effect on the numbers of people who are getting the flu or dying from flu in this country. (www.cdc.gov)

This is the hype we can expect to hear until flu season 2009. The only variable will be how hysterical they decide to get.

SAME OLD GERM THEORY

Until we do a little reading and finally come to grips with the unreliability of the Germ Theory as a tenable scientific premise for disease processes, we will continue to be misled by whatever new media-conceived threats come down the pike. Germs don't cause disease. Sick people with chronically toxic internal milieu provide hospitable environments for disease processes to gain a foothold, some of which culturing situations may then involve propagation of pathogenic microbes, true.

But that's a far cry from the simplistic popular version that we were perfectly healthy until this pig virus came along out of nowhere and made us sick by taking over our normal immune systems, and killed us. That just doesn't happen.

What happened to SARS? Where is it? What happened to anthrax, smallpox, Avian flu, mad cow--- they're gone. And they won't be back. They served their purpose - terrorize and distract - spend billions for new research, new pharmaceuticals, unproven and ultimately unnecessary. Afterwards the threats always vanish, like the dew off the new grass in the morning sun --- gone. And that's what will happen with this new swine flu, in a very short time.

It's already happening -- by mid-summer, where is the pandemic> Where are the new cases?

With SARS we had coronavirus. With Avian flu we had H5N1 virus. Now with swine flu we have H1N1 virus. For a thorough discussion of indefensibility of germs as the cause of SARS and Avian flu, see [4].

THE TWO MARKET SOLUTIONS: VACCINES AND DRUGS

In the same pattern as SARS, Avian flu, and smallpox, the current media hysteria hyping swine flu has two very obvious goals: selling vaccines and drugs. All exaggeration, misdirection, hyperbole, inaccuracy, inflammatory rhetoric, dire predictions seen in today's communications are representing that the current biological threat can only be defended against by the mass administration of vaccines and drugs.

First, vaccines.

For any new vaccine to be formulated, tested as safe and effective, and approved would take at least a year, usually more. So the immediate references to vaccines as our only salvation, within the first week of the new 'crisis' would indicate that the FDA is considering using the old swine flu vaccines, that have been stockpiled since the mid 70s. Maybe they'll tweak them a little for re-packaging as new and improved, but for now it's all we have. The New York Times was talking about a vaccine 'within a month.' The only possibility of a solution that quick would be to re-deploy the stockpiled swine flu vaccine from the worst vaccine disaster in US history in 1976, as detailed above. Given the virulence and toxicity of that concoction makes one wonder how even the US media could make that turkey fly.

The likelihood of re-using old vaccine stockpiles has a precedent. CDC tried the same tack in 2001 with the post 9/11 smallpox vaccine hoax. They trotted out old smallpox vaccine stockpiles that had been on the shelves since 1971 and prepared to re-deploy them into the population to protect Americans from the imaginary post 9/11 smallpox threat. Of course they cancelled the program as soon as the money was spent, and mercifully we were spared those vaccines.

It's a preposterous claim to even be suggesting we could come up with a vaccine for mass administration in such a short period of time as a month. Precipitous action driven by politics instead of science is exactly what led to the 1976 disaster. Are we willing to reprise that catastrophe?

One other course might be to try and tweak a current flu vaccine and claim that it would be effective for the current epidemic. This type of marketing would face the challenge of disguising how ineffective yearly flu shots have always been. In the past 20 years, flu shots have had no effect either on the numbers of people getting the flu, nor on the number of people supposedly dying from influenza. [4] On the CDC website, during the past decade the magic figure of 36,000 deaths annually from influenza in the US has never changed. [8]

PLAN B: TAMIFLU AND THE MYTH OF THE ANTIVIRALS

In the chapter on Avian Flu at www.thedoctorwithin.com [5] we looked closely at the 'antiviral' drug Tamiflu, which was marketed as the cure of the nonexistent Avian flu scare a few years ago.

It will save time to review some ideas from that chapter, since the selfsame falsehoods are being used to sell swine flu today.

In 1996 two drug giants - Hoffman LaRoche and Gilead Sciences made an agreement. Gilead had invented a new type of flu drugs called neuraminidase inhibitors, which included Tamiflu. [10]

The deal was that LaRoche could research and market the drug worldwide, and Gilead would be paid residuals.

From 1997 until the time he was sworn in as Secretary of Defense in 2001, Chairman of the Board of Gilead Sciences was Donald Rumsfeld. Rumsfeld continues to receive stock and benefits from Gilead, and is a major shareholder. [11]

How did the financial future of Gilead appear, with sales of Tamiflu? Best estimates were between $1 - 1.8 billion. And that's just for the US market. [12, 13] Such a figure would double Gilead's total income for 2004. Just for one drug.

Taking the global market into consideration, sales revenue from Tamiflu is virtually "unlimited." [13]

In the Avian flu hoax of 2005, the US Senate approved $3.9 billion for Tamiflu purchase with virtually no discussion. [13]

From a WHO FAQ sheet: "At present manufacturing capacity, which has recently quadrupled, it will take a decade to produce enough oseltamivir to treat 20% of the world's population." [14]

Oseltamivir - that's Tamiflu.

Keep asking yourself: who would benefit from the threat of pandemic?

ALEXANDER FLEMING: VOICE FROM THE GRAVE

Drugs that kill viruses have been the Holy Grail of modern medicine every since Fleming's invention of penicillin in the mid 1940s. Penicillin initially saved so many lives because for the first time we had a drug that could kill a broad spectrum of bacteria in the human body. But for all these years since, they could never pull the virus rabbit out of the same hat. No matter what the boys in PR name their drugs, there have never been drugs that take care of viruses the way antibiotics originally could kill bacteria. [15]

And that's always been the problem with colds and flu. Most of them are viral, as everyone knows. Antibiotics don't work with flu. If you take antibiotics every time you get the flu, you are building your body's resistance to antibiotics. So if you ever have a life-threatening infection, they won't work. Fleming warned us this would be the result of irresponsible cavalier overprescription, but we didn't listen.

Which explains why 80,000 people die every year in the US of infections that are completely resistant to all known antibiotics.

So is there really such a thing as a drug that kills viruses? Can Tamiflu really do what they claim it does?

PROBLEMS WITH TAMIFLU

Tamiflu was approved by the FDA on 20 Nov 2000. [16] The manufacturer made extravagant claims about its effectiveness from the outset:


"The results of several clinical studies show that Tamiflu is up to 92% effective in preventing influenza illness in adolescents, adults and the elderly when taken once daily." [16]

Gilead also claims that Tamiflu

"is the first antiviral pill, effective against all common strains of flu, that can safely protect people who are in close contact with someone who has the flu."

No actual studies are cited by the manufacturer proving these claims.

SCIENCE VS PROMO

Much of what appears on Gilead's website about Tamiflu is the work of Gilead's PR department. To find out what the actual scientists say about Tamiflu, we have to look at the Physician's Desk Reference, the technical bible of the drug industry.

From that source we find a little different story. We find that the supposed action of Tamiflu is that it is assumed to prevent flu viruses from collecting on cells by specifically inhibiting a certain enzyme that helps viruses to bind to cells. The enzyme is called a neuraminidase. [17] The first problem is that they don't know for sure if that is the action of the drug, and always refer to it as the "proposed" mechanism of activity. But more pertinently, the scientists state that even though this seems to be how the drug works in culture,

"the relationship between the activity in a culture and the inhibition of influenza virus replications in humans has not been established." (p2927)

In other words the scientists who formulated Tamiflu are stating that they don't know whether or not it even works in humans! And this is the drug that all of American media is hawking to the skies as the savior that will save us from the plague of swine flu.

NO DRUG CAN MUTATE

Even if Tamiflu could inhibit virus proliferation in humans, it wouldn't work for very long in our entire population. Why not? Mutation. Influenza viruses are one of the fastest mutating of all known human viruses, mutating several times in one flu season, not just in a given locale, but even within the same person. At any one time across the country there are literally hundreds of strains of influenza in people. And this is precisely why flu shots have never worked and have had virtually no effect on the incidence of flu in this country for the past several years. [4]

With Tamiflu, again, the scientists readily admit that

"Insufficient information is available to fully characterize the risk of emergence of Tamiflu resistance in clinical use. [17]

Resistance means tolerance, or the ability of viruses to mutate so as to be unaffected by the drug. We see this same exact phenomenon every year with the creation of many new infections of which people die, because the organisms become completely resistant to all known antibiotics. This is the result predicted by Alexander Fleming. [15]

TAMIFLU NO GOOD AFTER 2 DAYS

Another limitation of Tamiflu is the short window of opportunity for its claimed effectiveness. Again from the 2005 PDR:

"Tamiflu is indicated for the treatment of uncomplicated influenza infection in patients 1 year and older who have been symptomatic for no more than 2 days." [17]

For no more than 2 days. In other words, the manufacturers are saying Tamiflu doesn't work if the patient has had the flu for more than 2 days. Never saw that in Newsweek, did you?

Reading on, the manufacturer is not claiming that Tamiflu can help any patients who were already sick when they got the flu. (p 2928) They further state that they don't know if multiple courses of Tamiflu are safe, because they never tested for more than one course.

NO TAMIFLU FOR PREGNANCY

The manufacturers then state they cannot guarantee safety for the fetus if a pregnant woman takes Tamiflu. [17] Therefore they don't recommend Tamiflu for pregnancy. See that one in the paper?

Side effects of Tamiflu? Here's what the PDR lists:


rash
swelling of face
epidermal necrolysis (skin death)
hepatitis
cardiac arrhythmia
aggravation of diabetes
seizures ([17] p 2929)


All that seems pretty risky for a drug that has never been proven to work in humans.

TAMIFLU: LITTLE HOPE FOR SWINE FLU

Remember now, Tamiflu has been around since 2000. The above facts from the most current science known about Tamiflu shows the progress that has been made with this drug after several years: precious little. Tamiflu had no effect on ordinary flu incidence during the past 9 years. Why is it now suddenly being glorified as the Magic Bullet for the 'new pandemic'?

The CDC has tested more than 50 strains of H1N1 and found that 98% of them are resistant to Tamiflu! [9]

COST OF VACCINES FOR SMALLPOX, SARS AND AVIAN FLU?

The Bush administration has funded a Swiss drug company, Sanofi Pasteur, $100 million to develop a vaccine for Avian flu. [18]

Bush made it clear that there was plenty more where that $100 mil came from when he announced that $7.1 billion was being allocated to combat avian flu with drugs and vaccines. [20]

Director of HHS, Mike Leavitt, parroted his predecessor Tommy Thompson almost verbatim when he said:


"we need to have the capacity to produce 300 million courses of a vaccine for any strain of a pandemic flu." [20] 1 Nov 05

Those were Tommy Thompson's same words exactly three years before, but he was talking about smallpox vaccine for the pandemic du jour. And after 2 years of hysteria and $3 billion we all know what happened to that program. [21] [22] It was scrapped before the vaccine manufacturers even met their production quotas. We'll never hear about smallpox again.

With SARS, it was slightly more money: $40 billion, with 800 deaths alleged worldwide. [20] Just like today, almost all the deaths were diagnosed by symptoms only. No lab tests.

With the new swine flu Obama fell right in line with his predecessors, letting everyone know that he would not be counted as a laggard in the game of political immunology: in the first week he was pledging $1.5 billion for a disease that had not yet been proven to exist.

Who stands to benefit from any faux epidemic?


- media selling hysteria
- research funding
- med/pharmaceutical /security/law enforcement
- new vaccines

THE DISAPPEARING THREAT OF SWINE FLU

There are literally hundreds of strains of influenza virus present at any given time across the US. These viruses have the ability to mutate very quickly, which explains why the flu vaccine has never been effective, since everyone gets the same vaccine. But here with swine flu, they're referring presumably to a version of the 1976 virus which had supposedly crossed the species barrier from pigs to humans and killed the one soldier.

That single incident then occasioned a sequence of political events mandating the release of a dangerous and untested vaccine that killed 21 people and paralyzed another 565. But the primary issue in all this that no ever mentions is that after the vaccine was cancelled, the disease disappeared. The imaginary epidemic never happened.

In the 13th edition of The Sanctity of Human Blood we refer to this phenomenon as The Case of the Disappearing Threat. It happened the same way every time, with anthrax, SARS, smallpox, and avian flu:


A disease is named
Mass hysteria is created: global threat
The disease is loosely correlated with a microbe
With insufficient testing, a vaccine and drug are ordered, costing billion$
Soon after, the treat disappears and is never heard from again


That's exactly what will happen with swine flu. It has to: it's a tried and true pattern perfected by the dictates of


POLITICAL IMMUNOLOGY

Before we get completely sick of swine flu media bytes, and automatically switch off any channel talking about it, we should notice the political pattern occasioned by an event this compelling. Look at the omniscient and confident way each government official speaks about this unproven new disease they know nothing about. Each government office who doesn't come out and support the daily version of the Prevailing Myth fears that they may be accused of not doing their job. So no one has the wherewithal to state the obvious: we really don't know what's causing the phenomenon, and we don't have the situation under control and it's unlikely that Tamiflu and a new swine flu vaccine will solve the problem, given their lack of success in the past, on every single occasion. So it's just about TV theatre: all form, no substance. And each official will repeat the same bland platitudes with the same conviction, and billions will be spent and soon the 'epidemic' will fade without most people knowing it was never here at all.

So then what are all these people dying of then, you might ask?

Until some legitimate science steps up, the answer is: it's just plain old flu.

SO WHAT'S THE SOLUTION?

With no swine flu and no epidemic, the solution is stop watching the nonsense coming out of your TV, stop reading internet stories and stop reading newspaper and magazine articles about swine flu. Be assured it will be over just as soon as all the money for the vaccine and the antiviral drugs gets spent. Live your life; with all the real problems we have today, we don't need any imaginary ones.

Swine flu or H1N1 or whatever they decide to call it next week will soon be fading off into the boneyard of plague hysteria memorabilia, along with smallpox, anthrax, SARS and Avian flu. The sales team did a phenomenal job, getting maximum mileage out of the ol' global pandemic spectre by applying the term to regular flu. We must applaud genius, and learn to recognize it. This certainly won't be the last faux pandemic - there's an inexhaustible supply.

We can learn from this experience how difficult it is to get verifiable information about important health issues. The irresponsible media has proven once again beyond a doubt whose agenda they represent. Vaccines are a serious decision for everyone. To get sound information from scientific sources not dependent on drug companies requires some amount of diligence. The new 13th ed. of the vaccine book [4] offers many such resources. This is the only way we can make a truly informed decision on such an important issue as what medicines and drugs we will allow into the bloodstream of our children.

The vaccine industry seems to be trying to imitate the music industry these days. Within our devolving species, as people's brains become more and more saturated with hydrogenateds, they become easier to fool. Today any loud noise is music, in media any loud story is true, and with vaccines, any vaccine is scientific and effective. Doesn't matter that it's impossible to create immunity with a vaccine that is choosing 2 or 3 strains from hundreds, and pretending to confer specific immunity. Doesn't matter that the disease the vaccine is for has never been shown to actually exist. The media says it exists and that the vaccine will work -- that's as discriminating as the American public gets. They've lost the ability for abstract thought, rational discourse, and they don't read.



At the end of the new vaccine text, 13th ed., there's a section titled Social Darwinism. Here's the idea: if it really is true that all today's vaccines are collectively immunosuppressive, then the children with the greatest chance of longterm survival and replication will be the unvaccinated. The others are more likely to be selected out:


"The human species is subject to the same laws of natural selection as all other life on the earth. Those with the weakest immune systems drop out. The immuno-suppressive effect of the immense viral load being continually forced onto the young through vaccines over long periods of time will cause their line to have the least chance of survival. It will dilute the DNA of their progeny forever. In the US during the past 50 years, where the vaccine load has been increased by more than 2500%, look at what is already clearly observable in the health and intelligence of our children during that time. Play that pattern forward another 50 years, 100, 200.

Nature will always take its course. ...The uneducated, and the militantly uneducated will always, always vaccinate their children. And thereby over time may be selected out of the species. It's neither good nor bad: just simple genetics.

Apocalyptically speaking, this may well be the best we can hope for by way of a silver lining, in the dark and murky world of vaccines we have conjured up today." [4]



copyright MMIX thedoctorwithin



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juicerkatz Wrote:
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> riverhousebill, you are a combat vet? Didn't the
> give you vac. & other meds in the military? I
> would call those forced.


Yes with a air gun 7 shots at a blast. shots were mandatory pills I would dump
I joined the army on my 17th birthday I liked to plead young and dumb now
got reality, sandwich upset my stomac, but said then live free or die. my last three months in I was not allowed to have a weapon because I took a stand went to stockade and I feel good about it today.
I dont need wepons today to resist ive learned well, love is the armament to
win with! some things just wont fly and flying pigs is to much for me I wont be fooled again, forced or what ever no way sam!!!!

Wow, Bill, you are just walking awesomeness! : )

>>>I took a stand went to stockade and I feel good about it today. >>>

Standing up for your rights can oftentimes have severe consequences.

Just curious; Did you spend all your remaining time locked up for not "following orders" after you resisted the vac.? What type of discharge did they give you?

Also, what branch of the military are we talking?

Army, Hawk Arty, 2/71st 8th army 68 to 70 General discharge honorable conditons, orderd at General court Marshal
last 30 days out of stockade I never refused the vac while in, I went to jail for threating to kill comand. a lot of us reached that point. the military and the monitary turning my planet into vast cemetaires. I had no thoughts or cares about
the vacines back then. but now I know its foder time again with the new programs.
since my discharge the Va has ruled me 100% ptsd and Im med retired.
lots of us went insane and look today empire has a price for expansion, oil ect
Lapaz

with experts there is only one way, with the laymen many posable ways