Jgunn,
Some of the recent events around your parents just want to make me cry. Especially about the doctors discouraging fresh veggies, fruits, juices. It sort of makes 'sense' if the radioactive materials weaken ones defenses.

I can see Bryans comments as being wise however. I know thats difficult, my parents and my partners parents have health conditions. My partners father has cancer, and he is eating what he usually does. And he went through surgery to remove the ducts to his pancreas, and had two rounds of chemo, which did little or nothing to slow the growth of cancer.

I feel pretty helpless to suggest anything, as the cancer is now very advanced, and probably more stubborn than ever from having additional toxic exposure from chemo. But from their perspective they are doing what they think is going to extend his life, and improve the time he has left. I don't agree, but I am keeping pretty mum. Especially since he has had surgery, I don't know if his body will function normally now. And then the detox he would go through, I am absolutely certain that would be difficult for him. Hes been taking some pain medication and for a time he actually couldn't walk. I don't know how it did that, but I think it affected his nerves bad enough to do that. My partner also said something about it changing hormones also, causing men to produce more estrogen. I am sure that would NOT be welcome.

whew ... Bryan you are right , everyone keeps telling me to accept their decisions

i still just cant help trying to figure outhow to spike their Boost shakes with living coconut water lol

oh gosh please dont think im hopeless lol

i had a good talk with their neighbor who is an argentine vegetarian , really nice guy and very spiritual

and Bryan he said the same thing and to be there for them and help them pass comfortably on , anything else is just a whole lotta noise they are not interested in .

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

My dad had to go to the eye specialist today because his vision has been getting a bit skewed and fuzzy , and he was worried that cancer had already got to his head or thought he had some macular degeneration

when he came out he was hang dogged looked , my heart sank and i thought i dont know if i can get another dose of bad news , and he told me they said he had cataracts

well i jumped up an whooped an yelled thats AWESOME !!! everyone was gaping an staring at me and my dad started laughing and said what the hell? cataracts arent good news !

and i said well they are compared to brain cancer or MD LOL ... cataracts ! what great news ! LOL

he said .. Kiddo .. im glad yer here with me

my heart swelled so much at that moment it blew out my chest and invisably exploded all over the room lol

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist




Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/15/2010 09:32AM by Jgunn.

Jody, I'm so sorry to hear about your dad's diagnosis and the ill health of your mother. Sounds like you've gotten some really good advise so far. You are exactly where you are supposed to be and believe it or not, they are too. What you're doing, going to the doctor with your dad, being there for them, is great. The best thing you can do for them is to take care of yourself, too, emotionally, physically, and spiritually.

Yogi's right that we can't change anyone but ourselves. The thing is when we stop trying to change others and only focus on ourselves, sometimes others change on their own. I noticed that with several people in my life.

I learned with detachment that I can listen better, forgive easier and not obsess which is so easy for me. Detachment from their eating decisions doesn't mean you don't care, it means you accept that they are choosing for themselves what they think is right and that's not going to change. Your situation is one that you have no control over, and if I were in your place, I would turn everything over to God/Spirit/the Universe or whoever/whatever you prefer. That would be my suggestion: let Spirit deal with the outcome and be there for your parents to help with doctors appointments, laundry or whatever is needed, love, and emotional support.

Take care and keep us informed. You and your parents are in our prayers.

Much love,

Mona

Remember nothing is going to happen today that you and God can't handle.

We surrender to win; we give away to keep; we suffer to get well; we die to live.

Mona Wrote:
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> I learned with detachment that I can listen
> better, forgive easier and not obsess which is so
> easy for me. Detachment from their eating
> decisions doesn't mean you don't care, it means
> you accept that they are choosing for themselves
> what they think is right and that's not going to
> change.
Mona....My feelings exactly. You said it so well.
I'm practicing 'visualization' now, where I look at a person,
and 'see' the very Best they could be. No words need to be said.
Then I look in the mirror.....WY

Yes,I agree too. So well said, Bryan, WY, and Mona.

And what better person to have around when things are tough than Jodi! Your folks must be so happy to have you there.

Best wishes!

thank you guys for letting me share , it really helps me to write this stuff down an put it out here

your support is sooooo appreciated

i took a quick drive around the block this morning and discovered a "living forest" right here in the city . this differs from a "park" as its not manicured at all its just wild green space . Im really looking forward to be able to go there and recharge ... very exciting I also found out my tai chi club has a club about 20 blocks from here so when i go home this weekend i am going to get my bike and bring it here and join up at the club there. there is a class today at noon i can sign up for and its every friday 12-2pm .. so that will be a nice end of the week thing to do i think to unwind

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

by the way does anyone elses parents have really weird habits lol

my dad insists that I use the handheld vacuum (dustbuster) to vacuum the countertops after every meal

im not even sure where he got the idea ive never seen anyone ever do this LOL

Bryan if you want to move this down to Off topic as it really has nothing to do with food that would be cool

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist




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Hi Jodi,

SO sorry to hear about your father.

I agree with Bryan and everyone else but I also think you can still try little things that bridge the two approaches. Dr fuhrman's website sells a dha formula rich in omega 3s (to reduce inflammation). They're colorless and tasteless (and vegan). You could slip a couple of drops in your dad's food to give him some much needed nutrition.

How about spirulina chocolate? I once tried a recipe for raw spirulina choc cake. I don't have the recipe anymore but I'm thinking you could make the spirulina choc cake (without the crust) into a mousse. One or two dates blended with a little water, mix in half an avocado, couple of spoons of cacao and spirulina, add some agave if he doesn't find it sweet enough. Don't let him see you make it! I find people think the idea of avocado in choc is disgusting (till they try it!) Otherwise, if he can only eat the liquid nutrition things, get the choc flavor (or add some cacao) and mix in the spirulina or mesquite (I've read it has anti cancer properties) or camu camu (super vitamin C!). I don't believe e coli or other nasties would survive the drying process these powders go through.

I find it bizarre that advice re fruit and veg is given in the states? In europe people are pumped full of juices as soon as they're told about the cancer. They even knew that back in the 70s in europe when my father was ill...

Not sure any of the above is useful or practical, maybe it's just the virtual equivalent of making you a cup of tea or bringing over a casserole. Big hug and lots of light and energy.



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badawie, Jodi's papa recently passed away. Our prayers and love are with her...

Oh no I'm so sorry. Is there any way to remove my post?? I don't want to open old wounds

badawie,

Jodi will understand, and appreciate, your concern if you can't edit anymore, dear.

hehe its ok dear suggestions like yours can help with those of us that remain living , no need to edit *hugs*

this is the poem that was used on the little card thatis handed out

Just as the mist it rises
Then vanishes way down the stream
John too has come and then left us
Today it seems like a dream
That he was so much part of our lives
That he lived and loved as we do
Now he has left our hearts and his home
Like the fish that a fisherman threw
Back in the stream to go on its way
And that is what John is doing today
To a bright new world, see the sun glitter
As he drifts from sight, though our tears are bitter
We know that he, like the salmon’s leap
Will always be there in our memories deep

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist




Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/04/2010 03:54PM by Jgunn.