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12 years ago
rawjoe
Whilst casually browsing 30 Bananas A Day website i found this gem. Here’s How You Can Create Passive Income Doing What You Love in the Natural Health Movement... Learn how to make $2000-$20,000 per month. This is not a gimmick. The course starts on April 16th and it's limited to 35 people. 30BAD members get $100 off the total. ENTER 30bad for discount. Upon further investigation it
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12 years ago
rawjoe
About how many coaching clients either get, i have seen one of them say they had 4-5 a month at a time so they must not be doing too bad considering the extortion they charge. But the funniest bit of all is they have the nerve to ask for donations to run a website that costs a couple of hundred bucks a year. Subtle huxters. I also know Freelea has sold a good few copies of her ebook so again they
Forum: Living and Raw Foods Discussion (Vegan)
12 years ago
rawjoe
I just wish others could see that Harley and Freelea's goal is to make money from the raw food movement. Subtle but effective marketing strategies involve creating and provoking response through controversial videos and topics. This is what an effective internet marketeer does, they will make it look like they have nothing to offer on the surface but deep down they are heavily financially investe
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12 years ago
rawjoe
Can you imagine the uproar if Matt Monarch gave up selling his raw food world store and started charging 3000 dollars for health and nutrition advice. Harley manages to fly under the radar, his boasts of how he has the most traffic for a raw website is more proof that the massive effort he goes to is for his and Freelea's financial gain. Not a problem with that if it was't that he abused others f
Forum: Living and Raw Foods Discussion (Vegan)
12 years ago
rawjoe
So true Flipperjan . Harley is not the only one though,these raw health "coaches and gurus" are popping up everywhere charging a forture giving out unlicensed health advice for thousands of dollars. Fasting retreats for 6000 dollars with no pre or post medicals, some which have resulted in death. It is almost as if anyone can do what they want.
Forum: Living and Raw Foods Discussion (Vegan)
12 years ago
rawjoe
Also i never said he comes here begging for donations or solicting his coaching. What i did say was that he uses any and every method to drive traffic to his website. If even 5 out of the 5000 who watch each of his videos purchase something he will be doing rather well on the money side of things. As to Fresh - Harley has stated numerous times in the past few years that his job is as a health or
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12 years ago
rawjoe
Tamuka what exactly quantifies Harley as being an elite ultra endurance athlete as i have never seen any proof of this in regards to race results(something he often lies about). Harley himself says he is fit and i have no doubt in my mind that he is. In regards to the coaching, massive differences in coaching athletes than just running marathons yourself. My friend here does the marathons when th
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12 years ago
rawjoe
Does not detract from the fact that he uses this forum solely for flying by a few times a month to spam his videos. Sometimes he hasn't even got the decency to stay back and answer the questions. There are no different than any of the other youtube "celebs". My point was for a guy who preaches such a strong emphasis that he has no financial motivation when he does just as much. Who need
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12 years ago
rawjoe
You are missing my point completely Pborst i never said he direct solicited. He does this indirectly by posting links to his videos which then contain links to his sites. You will see he is now a youtube partner people who spam the viral videos such as the massive zit and other silly internet personalities making some money in the process. Nothing wrong with that just that he abuses others who ma
Forum: Living and Raw Foods Discussion (Vegan)
12 years ago
rawjoe
That is the point it is not in your face obvious commercialism like Monarch or Wolfe, making videos with the tone that Harley has nothing to offer but complete impartial advice about his lifestyle when really his livelihood depends on the raw food movement and he has vested interests. I just checked his site he actually charges 3250 AU Dollars for 30 days coaching via internet, WOW you could hire
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12 years ago
rawjoe
Yes but in order to market his coaching and other sellable assets he has to drive traffic to his website. Harley and Freelea do this mostly through the use of controversial videos(semi-naked frutarian dancing etc) in order to provoke repeated visits and reactions. Yeah i do not tolerate his abusive and bully behaviour. When you are charging 2000 dollars for coaching surely you shouldn't need to b
Forum: Living and Raw Foods Discussion (Vegan)
12 years ago
rawjoe
Pborst this is how it may appear on the surface but as an ex internet marketing director for a very large company i can tell you the purpose of everything they do at the end of the day is to drive as much traffic as possible to their website. Although it appears as if they have nothing to offer you like Monarch does with his tangible products, both Harley and Freelea offer coaching for thousands
Forum: Living and Raw Foods Discussion (Vegan)
12 years ago
rawjoe
The irony is that during all this time, Harley and Freelea have been creating a profitable marketing brand with the goal of making money from the raw food industry much in the same way Matt Monarch, David Wolfe and Daniel Vitalis. Whether the commodity is selling dietary supplements, retreats or books the ultimate motive is that they go to all this effort to make $$$$ from you. Harley just uses h
Forum: Living and Raw Foods Discussion (Vegan)
12 years ago
rawjoe
There are provacative videos then there is character assasination, slander and abuse. I am not a fan of Mr Monarch as much as the next guy but imagine a video of you popping up on the internet saying is Mislu a stoner then a bunch of clips taking you out of context. I was reading 30BAD the other day and quote on quote he said - "The eight year old in me loves making fun of people".
Forum: Living and Raw Foods Discussion (Vegan)
12 years ago
rawjoe
The only reason Durianrider comes around here once or twice a month is to spam 6-7 of his videos at one. He doesn't care about this forum or helping others, his intention is to come here spam and increase traffic to his videos and earnings. The irony is that he is nothing more than an 80/10/10 cash cow and then has the nerve to slander other raw personalities for doing the same thing
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12 years ago
rawjoe
Depends how you define health suspendedindefinitely. Harley to me doesn't look anywhere near the picture of health. He is mentally unstable, hate filled bully behaviour and often acts like he is tweaked out on drugs in his videos. Doug Graham is a better role model for 80/10/10
Forum: Living and Raw Foods Discussion (Vegan)
12 years ago
rawjoe
80/10/10 by Dr Douglas Graham.
Forum: Living and Raw Foods Discussion (Vegan)
12 years ago
rawjoe
Of course i have no problem with anyone looking to earn a crust he has to live. The problem is that Harley acts as if he has no vested financial interest in what he preaches. Most of the members over at 30BAD are extremely gullible in thinking otherwise but even some are starting to twig how commercial both are becoming. I also take offense to how Harley talks to and treats young woman with e
Forum: Living and Raw Foods Discussion (Vegan)
12 years ago
rawjoe
Harley is no different than the Monarch and Wolfes of the raw food world, he is just looking to make his slice from the raw food movement. The only difference with Durianrider is that he pulls the smoke screen by slandering the supplement sellers and making it look like he is a completely biased view with no vested financial interest. You will probably have noticed how commercial Harley and Fr
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