I posted this Video in 2 other threads, but it's too important for it to be buried in other threads and deserves its own because we have to put an end to this MADNESS!!!

All Wars Are Bankers' Wars
[www.youtube.com]

Peace and Love..........John

I would tend to agree that this statement is true, the bankers do run the show.

But...How does one put a stop to it? Alex Jones is always ranting that he has "The Globalists on the run..." Yeah, right.

Sorry, if the answer is in the video I won't hear it as I can't sit through 43 min. worth.

Hey veganjuice,

If you won’t take the time to listen to this Video, I figured that you might not also take the time to read my Post, which is why I put the key points in bold and added a summary. I also realize that other people read these posts and that some people might want to read it, as well as watch it.

At any rate, you bring up some good points and your summary is spot on. The big problem here is that most people don’t want to hear about Raw Food just as much as most people don’t want to hear that America is heading for another “Great Depression.” The Glass-Steagall Act was passed in 1933 to prevent the Banks from creating the Odious Debt that was responsible for the “Great Depression” and then, after 12 attempts in 25 years was finally repealed as the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999.

Now, those who pull the strings have created more Debt than is humanly possible to pay back and we need to do what they did in Iceland where they audited the books and found 92% of the debt was not their debt - it was Odious Debt. Same thing is happening here in the US and all over the world and more and more people are Waking Up than ever before, but very few people have the solution, very few people know that there is only one solution and that is to get Re-Connected. And, once again, most people don’t want to hear about Raw Food, which is how we get Re-Connected.

So what do we do? How do we reach the Tipping Point, which a recent study has concluded to be 10% of the population, when most people are not in a position to evaluate what they’re doing and what they need to do?

The answer is to duplicate what Bill Bright did back in the 1990s. Bright won the Templeton Award and received $1 million to get 1 million Christians to do a 40 day Juice Fast by the year 2000. In 1997, there were 14 million Christians around the world doing a 40 day Juice Fast. We need to duplicate and surpass what Bright did by organizing a Grass Roots Global Juice Feasting Movement. If we can get millions of people doing something on a Temporary just so they can see what they’re missing and show everyone else, then the Extreme part of our Behavior will become less Extreme. If enough of us get Re-Connected, we could transform this world back to the Paradise it was meant to be.

For a very Motivational read, check out “The Transforming Power of Fasting and Prayer” by Bill Bright, which is full of great testimonials from people who were brave enough to go where few have gone.

Peace and Love..........John

A Veteran Remembers

By Howard Zinn

Let's go back to the beginning of Veterans Day. It used to be Armistice Day, because at the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month of 1918, World War I came to an end.

We must not forget that conflict. It revealed the essence of war, of all wars, because however "just" or "humanitarian" may be the claims, at the irreducible core of all war is the slaughter of the innocent, organized by national leaders, accompanied by lies. World War I was its epitome, as generals and politicians sent young men forward from their trenches, bayonets fixed, to gain a few miles, even a few yards, at frightful cost.

In July 1916 the British General Douglas Haig ordered 11 divisions of English soldiers to climb out of their trenches and move toward the German lines. The six German divisions opened up with their machine guns. Of the 110,000 who attacked, more than half were killed or wounded--all those bodies strewn on no man's land, the ghostly territory between the contending trenches. That scenario went on for years. In the first battle of the Marne there were a million casualties, 500,000 on each side.

The soldiers began to rebel, which is always the most heroic thing soldiers can do, for which they should be given medals. In the French Army, out of 112 divisions, 68 would have mutinies. Fifty men would be shot by firing squads.

Three of those executions became the basis for the late filmmaker Stanley Kubrick's antiwar masterpiece, Paths of Glory. In that film a pompous general castigates his soldiers for retreating and talks of "patriotism." Kirk Douglas, the lieutenant colonel who defends his men, enrages the general by quoting the famous lines of Samuel Johnson: "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."

The supposed moral justification of that war (the evil Kaiser, the Belgian babies) disintegrated quickly after it ended with sudden recognition of the 10 million dead in the mud of France and the gassed, shellshocked, and limbless veterans confronting the world.

The ugliness of that war was uncomplicated by the moral righteousness that made later wars, from World War II on, unsullied in our memory, or at least acceptable. Vietnam was the stark exception. But even there our national leaders have worked hard to smother what they call "the Vietnam syndrome." They want us to forget what we learned at the Vietnam War's end: that our leaders cannot be trusted, that modern war is inevitably a war against civilians and particularly children, that only a determined citizenry can stop the government when it embarks on mass murder.

Our decent impulse, to recognize the ordeal of our veterans, has been used to obscure the fact that they died, they were crippled, for no good cause other than the power and profit of a few. Veterans Day, instead of an occasion for denouncing war, has become an occasion for bringing out the flags, the uniforms, the martial music, the patriotic speeches reeking with hypocrisy. Those who name holidays, playing on our genuine feeling for veterans, have turned a day that celebrated the end of a horror into a day to honor militarism.

As a combat veteran myself, of a "good war," against fascism, I do not want the recognition of my service to be used as a glorification of war. At the end of that war, in which 50 million died, the people of the world should have shouted "Enough!" We should have decided that from that moment on, we would renounce war--and there would be no Korean War, Vietnam War, Panama War, Grenada War, Gulf War, Balkan War.

The reason for such a decision is that war in our time--whatever "humanitarian" motives are claimed by our political leaders--is always a war against children: the child amputees created by our bombing of Yugoslavia, the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children dead as a result of our postwar sanctions. Veterans Day should be an occasion for a national vow: No more war victims on the other side; no more war veterans on our side

Noam Chomsky Quote.

The doctrinal system, which produces what we call “propaganda” when discussing enemies, has two distinct targets. One target is what’s sometimes excelled the “political class,” the roughly 20% of the population that’s relatively educated, more or less articulate, playing some role in decision-making. Their acceptance of doctrine is crucial, because they’re in a position to design and implement policy.

Then there’s the other 80% or so of the population. These are Lippmann’s “spectators of action,” whom he referred to as the “bewildered herd.” They are supposed to follow orders and keep out of the way of the important people. They’re the target of the real mass media: the tabloids, the sitcoms, he Super Bowl and so on.

These sectors of the doctrinal system serve to divert the unwashed masses and reinforce the basic social values: passivity, submissiveness to authority, the overriding virtue of greed and personal gain, lack of concern for others, fear of real or imagined enemies, etc. The goal is to keep the bewildered herd bewildered. It’s unnecessary for them to trouble themselves with what’s happening in the world. In fact, it’s undesirable—if they see too much of reality they may set themselves to change it.



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I saw Howard Zinn speak when he came to Houston in 2003 and have always been a big fan. I'm also a big fan of Noam Chomsky and here are some of my favorite quotes...

Media & Corporate - Control & Distractions

"Hundreds of billions of dollars are spent every year to control the public mind." -Prof Noam Chomsky

"Advertising is tax deductible, so we all pay for the privilege of being manipulated and controlled." -Noam Chomsky

"You don’t have any other society where the educated classes are so effectively indoctrinated and controlled by a subtle propaganda system – a private system including media, intellectual opinion forming magazines and the participation of the most highly educated sections of the population. Such people ought to be referred to as "Commissars" – for that is what their essential function is – to set up and maintain a system of doctrines and beliefs which will undermine independent thought and prevent a proper understanding and analysis of national and global institutions, issues, and policies." -Noam Chomsky

"Any dictator would admire the uniformity and obedience of the (U.S.) media." -Noam Chomsky

"The rascal multitude are the proper targets of the mass media and a public education system geared to obedience and training in needed skills, including the skill of repeating patriotic slogans on timely occasions." -Noam Chomsky

"... the media serve the interests of state and corporate power, which are closely interlinked, framing their reporting and analysis in a manner supportive of established privilege and limiting debate and discussion accordingly." -Noam Chomsky

"The 'corporatization of America' during the past century [has been] an attack on democracy." -Noam Chomsky

"The most effective way to restrict democracy is to transfer decision-making from the public arena to unaccountable institutions: kings and princes, priestly castes, military juntas, party dictatorships, or modern corporations." -Noam Chomsky

"The best defense against democracy is to distract people." -Noam Chomsky

"As long as people are marginalized and distracted [they] have no way to organize or articulate their sentiments, or even know that others have these sentiments. People assume that they are the only people with a crazy idea in their heads. They never hear it from anywhere else. Nobody's supposed to think that. ... Since there's no way to get together with other people who share or reinforce that view and help you articulate it, you feel like an oddity, an oddball. So you just stay on the side and you don't pay any attention to what's going on. You look at something else, like the Superbowl." -Noam Chomsky

"Sports play a societal role in engendering jingoist and chauvinist attitudes. They're designed to organize a community to be committed to their gladiators." -Noam Chomsky

"It's done differently in El Salvador. There they send in the death squads. Here what they do is try to hook you on sitcoms. It's true that both are techniques of control, but they are rather different techniques." -Prof Noam Chomsky

"The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum - even encourage the more critical and dissident views. That gives people the sense that there's free thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate." -Noam Chomsky

War & Terrorism

"The U.S. is the only country condemned by the World Court for international terrorism-for "the unlawful use of force" for political ends." -Noam Chomsky

"In much of the world the U.S. is regarded as a leading terrorist state." -Noam Chomsky

"Vietnam wasn't a "disastrous mistake" - it was murderous aggression." -Noam Chomsky

"The author (Douglas Farah) of that article, at least when he's not writing for the Post, knows the answer perfectly well. The U.S. led a devastating terrorist war throughout the region to try to prevent democracy and social development. These billions of dollars of aid that he talks about were billions of dollars spent to destroy these countries. That's why they are worse off than before. But the Post can't say that. No matter how overwhelming the evidence is, it's perfectly possible simply to disregard it and to go on with fantasies that are much more pleasing to powerful interests and to oneself." -Prof Noam Chomsky

"The U.S. will not permit constructive programs in its own domains, so it must ensure that they are destroyed elsewhere to terminate the threat of a good example." -Noam Chomsky

Tricked & Fooled

"I think we can be reasonably confident that if the American population had the slightest idea of what is being done in their name, they would be utterly appalled." -Noam Chomsky

"The first step is to penetrate the clouds of deceit and distortion and learn the truth about the world, then to organize and act to change it. That's never been impossible and never been easy." -Noam Chomsky

"If you assume that there is no hope, you guarantee that there will be no hope. If you assume that there is an instinct for freedom, there are opportunities to change things, etc., there's a chance to contribute to the making of a better world. That's your choice." -Noam Chomsky

Peace and Love..........John

John, Have you read
A Power Governments Cannot Suppress by Zinn?

Written by historian, playwright, and World War II veteran Howard Zinn, A Power Governments Cannot Suppress is a scathing attack against America's political and ethical failings, using examples of atrocities America perpetuated in history - from massacres in Vietnam to abuses of Chinese immigrant labor workers to complicity in the genocide of East Timor and much more - to add context to current ills such as the extended toll of the war in Iraq. "There is no certainty as to what would happen in our absence [in Iraq]. But there is absolute certainty about the result of our presence - escalating deaths on all sides." Zinn is firmly anti-death penalty and decries its usage as well. Of especial interest in A Power Governments Cannot Suppress is the author's denouncement of a disturbing tendency to compartmentalize the Holocaust, to forget the millions of non-Jews that were executed along with 6 million Jews, and worse, neglect the occurrence of modern acts of genocide thereby betraying the memory of victims of the Holocaust genocide. A strident call to action, speaking out against governmental and human misdeeds, and vociferously encouraging the reader to stand up and take action..


Howard and Noam (Empire Project) know what up!

WAR ON THE CASTLES PEACE TO THE COTTAGES

I like their anti-war views, but both Zinn and Chomsky are Socialists. I myself am for Free-Market Capitalism, which they hate. Rand Paul is anti-war and Libertarian. That's what I'm all for.

Remember, Capitalism is Good. Crony Capitalism and Corporatism is Bad. This administration is all about Crony Capitalism and Corporatism. I don't hate regular Corporations (only those in bed with the government) and Capitalism, like the Socialists Zinn and Chomsky do.

Quote from Zinn from Wiki:

"Let's talk about socialism. I think it's very important to bring back the idea of socialism into the national discussion to where it was at the turn of the [last] century before the Soviet Union gave it a bad name. Socialism had a good name in this country. Socialism had Eugene Debs. It had Clarence Darrow. It had Mother Jones. It had Emma Goldman. It had several million people reading socialist newspapers around the country. Socialism basically said, hey, let's have a kinder, gentler society. Let's share things. Let's have an economic system that produces things not because they're profitable for some corporation, but produces things that people need. People should not be retreating from the word socialism because you have to go beyond capitalism."

Just because Chomsky and Zinn criticize U.S. Foreign Policy, doesn't make them great about the economy. Like I said - Ron Paul and Rand Paul and Libertarians are critics of U.S. Foreign Policy, but have also got it right on economics.

Capitalism -

[mises.org]

How Crony Capitalism Corrupts the Free Market

[mises.org]

Other Great Articles -

[mises.org]



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Again, I like Zinn and Chomsky on Foreign Policy, but they are/were Socialists/Communists -

[www.city-journal.org]

And what's with Chomsky living in a Mansion if he's such a Socialist and against Capitalism. Oh, that's right - Elitism is Him - so he gets to be 'the rich' while fomenting hate for 'the rich', because he's an Elitist.......

[www.zimbio.com]


The expression "limousine liberal" refers to someone who professes to love the downtrodden and despise capitalism. Nicolai Ceausescu, the former dictator of Romania was notorious for thundering about socialism and keeping very quiet about his luxurious mansions and Swiss bank accounts.

The latest "limousine liberal" to come to the public eye is Noam Chomsky, renowned as a friend in good standing of all radical causes and an abiding enemy of the capitalist system. Following is a sample of some of his notable quotes.


If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged.


I have often thought that if a rational Fascist dictatorship were to exist, then it would choose the American system.


As can be seen on his web site, Noam Chomsky has made his name opposing the capitalist system. He has voiced bitter opposition to tax shelters and trusts established by the rich to guard their wealth. But as a respected linguistic theorist and published authour, Chomsky has accumulated some wealth. He has in fact, a net worth of 2 million dollars, no longer the princely sum it once was, but certainly not to shabby. So what better a chance to test his ideas about inherited wealth? Now that he's 80 years old, he can donate all his money to some radical cause, just to prove his sincerity.

According to the Hoover Digest, Chomsky is not walking the walk. They report as follows about his turning to the tools of capitalism in his old age.


"One of the most persistent themes in Noam Chomsky’s work has been class warfare. He has frequently lashed out against the “massive use of tax havens to shift the burden to the general population and away from the rich” and criticized the concentration of wealth in “trusts” by the wealthiest 1 percent. The American tax code is rigged with “complicated devices for ensuring that the poor—like 80 percent of the population—pay off the rich.”

But trusts can’t be all bad. After all, Chomsky, with a net worth north of $2,000,000, decided to create one for himself. A few years back he went to Boston’s venerable white-shoe law firm, Palmer and Dodge, and, with the help of a tax attorney specializing in “income-tax planning,” set up an irrevocable trust to protect his assets from Uncle Sam. He named his tax attorney (every socialist radical needs one!) and a daughter as trustees. To the Diane Chomsky Irrevocable Trust (named for another daughter) he has assigned the copyright of several of his books, including multiple international editions.

Chomsky favors the estate tax and massive income redistribution—just not the redistribution of his income. No reason to let radical politics get in the way of sound estate planning."

So Chomsky is a huge Hypocrite, like the rest of "The Elite", but Elites being rich is fine, right, but business-people being 'rich', that's 'bad'. Sort of like Celebrities being Rich is Good, but CEO's being Rich is Bad.

Right, they were both Socialists, Like Eugene Debbs.

"Debs read the works of Karl Marx and learned about socialism in prison, emerging to launch his career as the nation's most prominent Socialist in the first decades of the 20th century. He ran as the Socialist Party's candidate for the presidency in 1900, 1904, 1908, 1912, and 1920, the last time from a prison cell." (From Wiki)

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Riverhousebill, would you rather have a Socialist Government than a Representative Republic?

In other words, which would you rather have --

An absense of government authority?

Or

A government in which the means of planning, producing, and distributing goods is controlled by a central government that seeks a more just and equitable distribution of property and labor?

Or

A system of government in which the government plans and controls the economy and a single party holds power; the elimination of private ownership of property or capital while making progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people (i.e., a classless society).

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What we supposed have now is a Constitutional Republic--

Constitutional - a government by or operating under an authoritative document (constitution) that sets forth the system of fundamental laws and principles that determines the nature, functions, and limits of that government.

Republic - a representative democracy in which the people's elected deputies (representatives), not the people themselves, vote on legislation.

(We had it until the Socialists/Communists took it over a hundred years ago)



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I would daresay that "All" govts. are inherently corrupt. I'm sure the Vietnam and/or other socialist govts. are not squeaky clean by any stretch of the imagination. To add to that, I personally enjoy our American freedoms (the ones that aren't being stripped away daily by the seat warmer in the WH & other hacks)

Freedoms such as google & other sites not being censored by the government, at least not to the degree that China and other comm. countries engage in. If you want to be led like a sheep, be my guest, but that's not what I'm all about.

In the words of Homer -

Yes, I agree that our government has and is screwing us up, but compared to all the other countries, there's no place better, so where are you going to go. If you like Socialism, you can go live in Europe where everybody and everything is the same, totally 'civilized' and Homogenized. They're cold little rigid countries - I've been there. (Give me the wide open spaces of the US) Over there, there's No hope, no ambition, no chance to 'make it big' - whatever that means to you, you'll just live in a little house or apartment just like everybody else, drive the same little car, and work at the same little job, and take the same little vacations as everybody else, all your life. BORING!

Veagan wrote-

I would daresay that "All" govts. are inherently corrupt. I'm sure the Vietnam and/or other socialist govts. are not squeaky clean by any stretch of the imagination.

That right Veagan Ive seen and read about coruption In The socialist Republic Off Vietnam, Seems all forms of govt have seen coruption. Nature of the beast?
BUt if we are talking levels of crimes commited in a country or by a country in other countrys Good ole Amerika is f...ked Thats what this Viet vet knows and has to say.
she has so many dead children in her closet I know we killed for her.
America is not the best, 80 ercent of her population is in a state of coma.
Look at all the bull.hit war the best place to be has waged death and destrution around the world for the right to have it be the best place.
O say can you see.

Yeh and dont say to me love it or leave it. I say change it or lose it.

Veagan wrote-

I would daresay that "All" govts. are inherently corrupt. I'm sure the Vietnam and/or other socialist govts. are not squeaky clean by any stretch of the imagination.

That right Veagan Ive seen and read about coruption In The socialist Republic Of Vietnam, Seems all forms of govt have seen coruption. Nature of the beast?
BUt if we are talking levels of crimes commited in a country or by a country in other countrys Good ole Amerika is f...ked Thats what this Viet vet knows and has to say.
she has so many dead children in her closet I know we killed for her
America is not the best, 80 ercent of her population is in a state of coma.
Look at all the bull.hit war the best place to be has waged death and destrution around the world for the right to have it be the best place.
O say can you see.

Yeh love it or leave it.? I say change it or lose it.



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. If you like Socialism, you can go live in Europe where everybody and everything is the same, totally 'civilized' and Homogenized.

I know what you are saying about Europe Kidraw.
But if you want the to go to a place that will blow your western minds go to Vietnam. its full to people traveling from all of Europe and asia, Hottest destination for tourist in the east
Its on the world Heritage site list, Its a country of Young people 80 percent born
after 84. Loving Peoples looking to the future

Socialism does not make a country boring at all, or the same you will find out after a trip to Vietnam!
Europe stone cold no thanks

Oh I almost forgot the fruit and vegies and rice from that country are almost worth the trip alone.
and so so cheap. A country of smiles yes



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This article was written in 1995, and the author talks of corruption, but maybe now it's changed --

[ngothelinh.tripod.com]

Who knew there were Vietnamese Gangs in California - the same author -

[www.amazon.com]

This is better -

[www.bbc.co.uk]

Amnesty International -

[report2009.amnesty.org]