seriously, not many people are pulling off the Raw Bodybuilder thing. it's pretty predictable that people will want details about how you're doing it. not that that means you have to give them but it would be nice of you to do so. it's quite the accomplishment and a lofty goal for others to set. we all can use some help here and there, practical advice as well as inspiration.

rawangel Wrote:
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> F1 you're more powerful than you think. I know
> you know you're powerfully capable, but you're a
> leader dude and it's already too late. Whatever
> you write, people will start to put in a box and
> begin digging around for more answers. You're
> damned if you do and damned if you don't say the
> right thing. It's a part of your path...being a
> leader that is. Resistance is futile and just
> makes it worse. When you write it is inevitable
> that you will stir things up. Look at the number
> of posts your comments have generated. Enough said
> and thanks for sharing.

You know what, Raw Angel....that's the most profound statement in this thread and the most percetive comment about me that I've heard in a long time, Raw Angel your spot on, I have been resisting this leadership thing for years, I've come to terms with it and I've been doing it but I still want to be me, I don't want to think that by taking up the post of leader that I can't share thoughts just for the fun of it or get support on issues close to me, but as you've said, I'm damned if you do and damned if you don't say the right thing....this has been going on for years here, people get mad at me because I don't tell them what they want to hear, the way they want to hear it....some of these people latch on to me and my posts because they can justify being an "A" hole or making me out to be an "A" hole....

But yeah Raw Angel your so right and I really don't have to say any more on that because this thread shouldn't really of been about analyzing/dissecting my personality at all.

This thread has wieghed heavy on my mind and it highligted a few facts about myself that I needed to address within myself, I realised that for what ever reason I've been holding myself back, so I made a momentus decision this morning, I'm finally going to commit myself to moving forward and I'm going to officially go liquidarian, I've been doing it already for 3-4 years but not in my mind, I never fully claimed it, this time I'm going claim it with everything I got!

I thought that I was happy doing the Fruitarian thing but I'm actually over the moon about finally accepting the liquidarian thing, it feels like I've lifted a veil from my eye's and I can see the sun for the first time!...am I going to share my progress, yes but on my terms, I won't share them here or on any other forum, I've finally learnt my lesson, it's a real shame but I'm not willing to give people and excuse to demonize me, it's been unfair and unwarranted.

I've been on this board for years and I'll continue to be here offering advice here and there so I'll see you around.

L1 (ha,ha)

fruitarianfitness Wrote:
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> I realised that for what
> ever reason I've been holding myself back, so I
> made a momentus decision this morning, I'm finally
> going to commit myself to moving forward and I'm
> going to officially go liquidarian, I've been
> doing it already for 3-4 years but not in my mind,
> I never fully claimed it, this time I'm going
> claim it with everything I got!
Congratulations for making such a Bold Move.
May we all go within and decide what's Best for each one
of us. Thanks for sharing.....WY

coco Wrote:
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> seriously, not many people are pulling off the Raw
> Bodybuilder thing. it's pretty predictable that
> people will want details about how you're doing
> it. not that that means you have to give them but
> it would be nice of you to do so. it's quite the
> accomplishment and a lofty goal for others to set.
> we all can use some help here and there, practical
> advice as well as inspiration.

I ALWAYS help people when I can, btw I'm not a body builder!

RB

Liquidarian One.... You are an inspiration! Congratulations!

Sunflower
Raw Food Chef and Writer
Comfortably Raw
[www.comfortablyraw.com]

but your body, it sure is built! man, you are in wicked shape.

i love that you took the challenges of this thread and turned it all around in a positive way dude, that is so super awesome! if everyone did that with all the issues that bug them we'd have some serious enlightenment going on 'round here!

coco Wrote:
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> but your body, it sure is built! man, you are in
> wicked shape.
>
> i love that you took the challenges of this thread
> and turned it all around in a positive way dude,
> that is so super awesome! if everyone did that
> with all the issues that bug them we'd have some
> serious enlightenment going on 'round here!

Ha,ha nice one, I like to say built by Fruitarian Fitness, I guess we can create our own form of bodybuilding eh! ha,ha....thanks for your words Coco, I really appreciate them, I truly believe that if what you believe is true and in is in line with natures laws nothing and nobody can challenge you.

All I need to do is keep on keeping on and all challengers will fall.

RB

Yes keep on keeping on!!

I'm not as fit or as healthy as you are, by any means!
I do however identify with your positivity, openness and your willingness to share your experiences.

I appreciate your posts.

I love the fact that you don't 'sit on the fence', you tell it as you see it.
I love your motivational 'don't talk about it' 'DO IT' approach to life

KEEP ON KEEPING ON FL1!!!!!!
L

What have you been liquidating lately L1?
Gosia


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RawGosia streams

I love your posts Frutarian one, they keep me sane. Most of my food is blended and has been for the last 2 years,I guess that is not quite liguidarian as it does have some fibre, and I do still consume some food in form of fat. I don't even want to tell people in case they make the sort of remarks you sometimes get, I'm too easily influenced on an energetic level by what others say not only to myself but too others, but I do still keep doing what I believe because I know it to be true, even if others don't believe it.

I hope you do continue to post

I think that every so often you should chew because apparently it is good for brain function. just saying, "everything in moderation including moderation".

<<"everything in moderation including moderation".>>

i like to emphasize " including moderation"

which kinda negates the first part of the phrase
and kinda doesn't

but i never was too in favor of moderation

i am in favor of precision

do what is precisely right at the time for that specific reason

and it varies for everyone

I speak only for myself. It is human nature, nay it is nature, to learn by observation. I think that if the people that came before us had not inquired from those before them, or around them, about what worked we be pretty screwed. We, other animals included, would not have existed as long as we have without the passed down experiences of those before us. We would not know what fruit or vegetables were edible without observation of others and what worked for them.

I think what is expected is some kind of consistency. I do not post tutorials. I do not post "introduction to fruitarianism" or any such thing. Therefore no one asks me questions about my diet or how much I work out.

I also think that consistent information is what would be expected. If information that was previously given is changed, then one would expect people to question the rationale or experience that has caused the change. Again, this is from the point of observational learning. We are hard-wired to do this.

gorillawar Wrote:
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. I think
> that if the people that came before us had not
> inquired from those before them, or around them,
> about what worked we be pretty screwed. We, other
> animals included, would not have existed as long
> as we have without the passed down experiences of
> those before us. We would not know what fruit or
> vegetables were edible without observation of
> others and what worked for them.

that`s weird...i was thinking about this very thing just last night LOL. if we don`t teach/talk how do we expect our race to change? if we just keep to ourselves evolution at its best won`t happen right?
patty

WASSUP F-1!!
I have something to say, I've been fruitarian now for 6 months and was raw before that for some time, the thing I've found out is when I eat I'm tired,when I don't eat I'm ready for a marathon! Why? Because when I eat I always OVEREAT!
Because I've always been a pig! We don't need that much food but that's how I was raised and most everyone else. Our soceity lives for food! I've been learning to put food aside and LIVE! I'm buying a case of apples tomorrow at the farmers market 35 pounds of apples and that's all I'm eating till they're gone! I've gone thru 3 cases of apricots in the last few weeks,why because I eat what I crave and apples right now are what I crave and they're in season till end of september,grapes are in full swing too so this is how I eat, I'm trying to stay away from heavier fruits like banannas and avocados and eat more juicy fruits. All last winter I couldn't get enough bananas but now I don't want them I want apples and I'm trying very hard to only eat what I need and not what I want.
All my life on SAD I was used to that FULL feeling in my stomach but with fruit it takes a lot to get that so you can imagine how much I eat but I'm cutting way back now. I try and go as long as possible with eating nothing and then when I do eat I just eat a couple apples then go again as long as I can and am also trying out imtermittent fasting,where you eat every other day. So F 1 I see your point. The body uses a lot of energy to digest so why over eat? Thus putting stress on the digestive system and being tired all the time. Food is not the answer for energy, eating as little as possible is the answer, I'm learning to live life for more important things than food food should be the last item on our list.
Rob

roadrunner Wrote:
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> WASSUP F-1!!
> I have something to say, I've been fruitarian now
> for 6 months and was raw before that for some
> time, the thing I've found out is when I eat I'm
> tired,when I don't eat I'm ready for a marathon!
> Why? Because when I eat I always OVEREAT!
> Because I've always been a pig! We don't need that
> much food but that's how I was raised and most
> everyone else. Our soceity lives for food! I've
> been learning to put food aside and LIVE! I'm
> buying a case of apples tomorrow at the farmers
> market 35 pounds of apples and that's all I'm
> eating till they're gone! I've gone thru 3 cases
> of apricots in the last few weeks,why because I
> eat what I crave and apples right now are what I
> crave and they're in season till end of
> september,grapes are in full swing too so this is
> how I eat, I'm trying to stay away from heavier
> fruits like banannas and avocados and eat more
> juicy fruits. All last winter I couldn't get
> enough bananas but now I don't want them I want
> apples and I'm trying very hard to only eat what I
> need and not what I want.
> All my life on SAD I was used to that FULL feeling
> in my stomach but with fruit it takes a lot to get
> that so you can imagine how much I eat but I'm
> cutting way back now. I try and go as long as
> possible with eating nothing and then when I do
> eat I just eat a couple apples then go again as
> long as I can and am also trying out imtermittent
> fasting,where you eat every other day. So F 1 I
> see your point. The body uses a lot of energy to
> digest so why over eat? Thus putting stress on the
> digestive system and being tired all the time.
> Food is not the answer for energy, eating as
> little as possible is the answer, I'm learning to
> live life for more important things than food food
> should be the last item on our list.
> Rob

WASSUP FELLA!!!!

Yep...you'd be surprised at how little you really need once your clean internally!
I'm not into that imtermittent fasting, I just live moment to moment, staying in the present. I'm not in charge of when my body gets what it needs, my job is to stay aware and give it what it needs when it needs it, not the other way around.

Some people think that when you go raw you go through your transitioning period and then that's it, you go on to live happily ever after....but if you stay as close to nature as you can you never stop transitioning to more effient levels of being, some would say higher levels of consciousness, I say it is what it is.

Well good luck with what your doing buddy!

FL1





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roadrunner Wrote:
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> WASSUP F-1!!
> I have something to say, I've been fruitarian now
> for 6 months and was raw before that for some
> time, the thing I've found out is when I eat I'm
> tired,when I don't eat I'm ready for a marathon!
> Why? Because when I eat I always OVEREAT!
> Because I've always been a pig! We don't need that
> much food but that's how I was raised and most
> everyone else. Our soceity lives for food! I've
> been learning to put food aside and LIVE! I'm
> buying a case of apples tomorrow at the farmers
> market 35 pounds of apples and that's all I'm
> eating till they're gone! I've gone thru 3 cases
> of apricots in the last few weeks,why because I
> eat what I crave and apples right now are what I
> crave and they're in season till end of
> september,grapes are in full swing too so this is
> how I eat, I'm trying to stay away from heavier
> fruits like banannas and avocados and eat more
> juicy fruits. All last winter I couldn't get
> enough bananas but now I don't want them I want
> apples and I'm trying very hard to only eat what I
> need and not what I want.
> All my life on SAD I was used to that FULL feeling
> in my stomach but with fruit it takes a lot to get
> that so you can imagine how much I eat but I'm
> cutting way back now. I try and go as long as
> possible with eating nothing and then when I do
> eat I just eat a couple apples then go again as
> long as I can and am also trying out imtermittent
> fasting,where you eat every other day. So F 1 I
> see your point. The body uses a lot of energy to
> digest so why over eat? Thus putting stress on the
> digestive system and being tired all the time.
> Food is not the answer for energy, eating as
> little as possible is the answer, I'm learning to
> live life for more important things than food food
> should be the last item on our list.
> Rob

Go here and check out the vids, they may interest you!

FL1

I'm probably going to do a two part "Advanced Fruitarianism' video that also covers liquidarianism and other elements of nature.

I'll post info here if anybodies interested.

FL1

Yeah I'm interested, look forward to that info F1 Thanks

fruitarianfitness Wrote:
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> Wheatgrass Yogi Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > communitybuilder Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > So what do you mean when you say you're a
> > > "liquidarian"? You no longer eat fruits, you
> > > juice them?
> > Fruitarian One hasn't answered this question,
> > but I'd guess that he eats Whole Fruits,
> without
> > juicing,
> > and that makes up 95% of his Diet.....WY
> > P.S. Maybe he'll tell us.
>
> Don't guess....that will just be giving out wrong
> info about me wouldn't it?
>
> I've already answered all the questions in prevous
> post here in this thread....if anybody has any
> more questions read the entire thread....I'm done
> with the questions.
>
> F1

I read the whole thread & I didn't see your answer (I might have passed it). Strange you don't want to repeat yourself. You could have quickly answered in half the time it took you to write all that.

And if you're "done with questions" why do you bother creating so many threads? Is your goal to educate or merely self-aggrandizement? Don't mean to step on your toes, just a strange reply to a simple question.

gorillawar Wrote:
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> I speak only for myself. It is human nature, nay
> it is nature, to learn by observation. I think
> that if the people that came before us had not
> inquired from those before them, or around them,
> about what worked we be pretty screwed. We, other
> animals included, would not have existed as long
> as we have without the passed down experiences of
> those before us. We would not know what fruit or
> vegetables were edible without observation of
> others and what worked for them.
>
> I think what is expected is some kind of
> consistency. I do not post tutorials. I do not
> post "introduction to fruitarianism" or any such
> thing. Therefore no one asks me questions about my
> diet or how much I work out.
>
> I also think that consistent information is what
> would be expected. If information that was
> previously given is changed, then one would expect
> people to question the rationale or experience
> that has caused the change. Again, this is from
> the point of observational learning. We are
> hard-wired to do this.


Great post!

what was the question?

So what do you mean when you say you're a
> > > "liquidarian"? You no longer eat fruits, you
> > > juice them?


I believe that was the question referenced.

Yeah, I'm just finding it a bit curious that a thread can go on for over 100 posts all about liquidarianism & no one has even given a definition (that I can see anyway, FO claimed to have given one but I did not see it).

communitybuilder Wrote:
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> Yeah, I'm just finding it a bit curious that a
> thread can go on for over 100 posts all about
> liquidarianism & no one has even given a
> definition (that I can see anyway, FO claimed to
> have given one but I did not see it).

would it be this you`re looking for?
"For the as long as I can remember I've been on orange juice or watermelon juice (watermelon in the summer/orange juice anyother time) with a sprinkling of other thicker fruits like grapes, mango, bananas, etc, the last 3-4 years or so has been pretty much exclusively orange/watermelon juice, for example it's summer now here in Texas and it's 98-103 degrees daily now and I'm still training like a mad dog outside in nature and I can get by on about 3 cups of watermelon juice a day, sometimes two, depending.

I just drink what I need to replace when I need to replace it and that's it....if I don't need anything I don't have anything."
end quote
patty

Ok, I missed that. Thanks Patty.

It's pretty amazing that one can survive on a two-food regime!

You should try to get on the news FO. Spreading the message & making a bit of green in the process.



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communitybuilder Wrote:
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> Ok, I missed that. Thanks Patty.
>
your welcome my friend
patty

F1,
Just got back from my camping trip and saw this GREAT thread, and I just want to say...

Way to Go, F1!!!!!! I think you're right on the mark.

I've been thinking and meditating a lot lately about the higher purpose, if you will, of the raw food diet, and how it's not an end in itself, but a means to an end and a component of our evolutionary passport to higher consciousness and maybe a different state of humanhood. You're one of our pathfinders.

Sharrhan:


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Ariel55 Wrote:
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> Yeah I'm interested, look forward to that info F1
> Thanks

Here you go.....

[www.youtube.com]

F1





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kwan Wrote:
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> F1,
> Just got back from my camping trip and saw this
> GREAT thread, and I just want to say...
>
> Way to Go, F1!!!!!! I think you're right on the
> mark.
>
> I've been thinking and meditating a lot lately
> about the higher purpose, if you will, of the raw
> food diet, and how it's not an end in itself, but
> a means to an end and a component of our
> evolutionary passport to higher consciousness and
> maybe a different state of humanhood. You're one
> of our pathfinders.


Bacatchya Kwan...

F1