Well folk, liddld23 has been banned. liddld23 wasn't interested in getting support in their raw diet, but was looking to have some fun debating the pros and cons of cooking.

Like I said, this is not the place for those kinds of debates. I will actively remove users who insist on debating an anti-raw food outlook.

i already lived your "all in moderation" lifestyle and it didnt serve me at all so there is nothing to debate with me with you .. nor do i have any desire to convince you otherwise to change your diet , if it works foryou thats great , as bryan said this is a place where people have decided this is the way for them and we are here to support that and get support in that, im neither b12 nor D deficient, i feel good , i look good and thats all the proof in the pudding that i need

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

Thank you for keeping us all on track Bryan!

Let's face it, I don't know about anyone else, but if I am ever in the mood for my choices an opinions to be debated and criticized, all I have to do is mention my preference for raw food to ...... well, ....... just about anyone at all. (outside of this forum)

This is one place that I know I can always find support and encouragement, and often answers to my questions.

And I know very well that I should really get over my enormous pet peeve about that "M" word - for some reason, just hearing it makes me see red! I must learn not to take the bait!!

really ? do you think im gullible? i felt i was expressing my oposing thoughts quite well. i dont feel gullible at all , in fact i feel stepping up and sayiing my peice is what im all about. sure morons like this come and go, but i feel even if they do get banned maybe they get sent away witha bit of hmmm maybe.


Wheatgrass Yogi Wrote:
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> suncloud Wrote:
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> > Thanks Bryan, for the reminder!
> PlainlyDressed said it
> best...."Hook-Line-Sinker"....
> meaning there are hungry Fish.
> I can't believe how Gullible people are here to
> get sucked in
> like this....WY

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

Jgunn Wrote:
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> really ? do you think im gullible?
I didn't mean you Jodi. I know you pretty well....
your Heart is in the right place....WY

=) well i try lol

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

I will echo your sentiments Jodi. I kind of expected that this discussion/debate would be stopped, and I appreciate that Bryan stopped it. After all, it really was against the rules.

But I didn't mind putting my 20 cents in until it happened!

Like you said Jodi, the person might have left with something new to think about.

If others didn't feel like dealing with it, that's fine too.

I thought everyone handled it really well. And I'll add that I'm very impressed with the general quality of the forum these days.

Thanks again Bryan!

'Everything in moderation'?

Sure. Have ill-health 'in moderation' too.

Ah, just realised Sapphire had answered in similar vein, but much better - great post, Sapphire!

Also, HUGE thanks to Brian. I'd been thinking about replying to one of liddld23's points, but it would have been a complete waste of my time and energy.

Thank goodness we have a firm moderator here!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/04/2009 03:07PM by debbietook.

As long as this message board has been around there
have been participants on it who have been pretty
adamant in saying that the Human race has "adapted
to cooked food." Adapted to it? Really.

One needs look no further than SAD eaters obesity
adaptation; SAD-eater poor health adaptation; the
adaptation of nursing home residents; etc. The
results speak for themselves.

But people want to have their cake and eat it to.
Though that's not how life works. Ever.

Steve
[www.meetup.com]
[www.rawgosia.com]

Steve:

If I am not mistaken, African Americans have about twice the risk of many types of cancer and vascular disease compared to white Americans. I believe this means our genes have adapted to a certain degree to cooked foods: The ancestors of white Americans had thousands of years on a cooked diet, whereas the ancestors of African Americans had only a couple of hundred. The only problem is, even people of European ancestry still get cancer and heart disease all the time. If our children and their children suffer through 100 million years of that, then maybe there will be humans who can truly thrive on cooked foods. Until then I prefer to stick with what has been working for billions of years.

Thank you, Bryan.

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"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
—Thomas Jefferson

There's a drugstore just up the street from my house and when I went in there today I walked past the huge amount of dead junk food they stock to get to the check stand (not with junk food :) the clerk asked me if I would like to buy some of the on sale candy bars they had on display at the check stand ? I said no thanks and finished my business there. As I was walking out I thought - thats convenient, you can buy dead food here that will make you sick and buy drugs here at the same time to symptom suppress so your cured. Such a bargain.

I'll concede there are genetic predispositions
on what types of illnesses each SAD eater gets,
but the bottom line is that if a condition is
not caused then there will be no incidence or
occurrence in the first place. There is a reason
why cooked food causes health issues: it toxifies
the bloodstream.

No doubt, different populations have different
health habits than do others. But, ultimately,
the condition of the blood is what determines
one's level of health; not one's ethnicity.

Can the Human body often cope for many decades on
a SAD diet? Yes, it can. But you're playing form
of Russian Roulette in the process. And that's
not very rational in any context, regardless of
one's ethnicity. And, ultimately, most SAD eaters
will be greatly incapacitated by the time they
reach 80 years old, far short of their potential.

And I don't ever see the prospect of the Human
body ever adapting to cooked foods. Not in a
trillion years. Because the DNA in all living
things rests in the fundamental the laws of Nature;
which do not entail anything cooked/burned. In
fact, all cancers are linked to some form of burning
or similar unnatural acts/processes. So to think that
DNA could ever change to support that, and still sustain
life as we know it, is a complete contradiction.
All life on this planet began and evolved for billions
of years in a RAW world, not a cooked one. And
cheating on that law is the biggest culprit for
what creates most of the physical suffering we
see in the world today.

Steve
[www.meetup.com]
[www.rawgosia.com]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/04/2009 06:14PM by paragon1685.

I guess I am late to the party. I would like to have seen this banned person explain diabetes, heart disease, cancer, and all the other health ailments out there and why people are getting them and why first world nations are so sick. For the first time, the average age of an American has declined. That was news about a year and a half ago. Why is it declining? I'll let you decide.

People are getting sicker and sicker with every passing generation. If you don't think that eating all the processed, non-nutritional, cooked and dead animal muscle isn't contributing to these sicknesses, you're delusional.