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Roger Eberts Comments on the movie "Forks over Knives"
Posted by: Jgunn ()
Date: May 13, 2011 03:25AM

wow and to think this guy used to really annoy me smiling smiley good for him !

Forks Over Knives


BY ROGER EBERT / May 11, 2011


Cast & CreditsA documentary featuring Dr. T. Colin Campbell, Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn, Neil Barnard, John McDougall and others.

Monica Beach Media presents a film written and directed by Lee Fulkerson. Running time: 90 minutes. Rated PG (for some thematic elements and incidental smoking).


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Here is a film that could save your life. So you'd better stop reading now, because you don't want to go to the trouble. You are addicted to fat, salt, sugar and corn syrup. Your body has established a narcotic-like dependence on them, and you're comfortable with that, just like smokers know why they keep on smoking. If you have to die 10 or 25 years sooner than necessary to smoke, if you need Viagra because your vascular system is compromised, or if you're overweight, you can live with that.

Hey, I'm not going all holier-than-thou on you. Think how fat I was for years. I knew the solution, I was weak and lazy. Over 12 years I was eventually able to lose about 70 pounds with a proper diet, but my current weight and superb physical condition can be attributed to my illness. I am unable to eat or drink anything, and my (therefore) perfect diet of canned nutrition has given me an ideal weight and incredibly good blood numbers. I don't recommend that you get sick to get well, however.

What every human being should do is eat a vegetarian diet based on whole foods. Period. That's it. Animal protein is bad for you. Dairy is bad for you. Forget the ads: Milk and eggs are bad for you. Skim milk is no better, because it contains proportionately more animal protein. What you're trying to avoid is dietary cholesterol. You also need to cut way down on salt and sugar, and run like hell from high fructose corn syrup.

"Forks Over Knives" is a documentary in which Lee Fulkerson enacts a mirror image of the journey taken by Morgan Spurlock in "Supersize Me." Instead of eating only at McDonald's for a month and nearly killing himself, he eats a plant-based whole food diet for six months, gets off all of his cholesterol and blood pressure medications, drops a lot of weight, sleeps better and has more energy.

His film follows three other sick people: one with breast cancer, one given less than a year to live because of heart problems, one with murderously high cholesterol. All are well again after the vegetarian diet. The movie opens with a warning that no one should take such steps without consulting a physician, and I quite agree; I would not have depended on nutrition to cure my cancer, but I'm convinced that I would always have been healthier if I'd eaten correctly.

The film hammers us with information. It centers on the work of famed nutritionists Dr. T. Colin Campbell of Cornell and Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn of the Cleveland Clinic. Campbell conducted the awesome China-Oxford-Cor­­nell study, which fol­lowed millions of Chinese over decades and found that increases in their incidence of cancer and heart disease directly paralleled their adoption of a Western diet.

Short term studies show the same thing: When Nazis commandeered all the food animals in Norway and rationing forced Brits away from meat, disease rates plummeted. After the war, they moved up again. In the traditional Japanese diet, breast and prostate cancers are all but unknown.

These facts have long been established, not only by Campbell and Esselstyn but also by Dean Ornish, John McDougall and the researchers at Pritikin. There is a Catch-22. The federal government subsidizes such crops as corn, which is used for lethal corn syrup and to feed animals which we then eat. It puts bad foods in school lunches. The lobbyists of agribusiness control national farm policy. The government spends millions to subsidize an unhealthy diet. We are raising the first generation of children who will not live as long as their parents.

Over the years I tried vegan and low-protein vegetarian diets, benefitted from and enjoyed them. I found by experience that all one needed was a rice cooker, a knife, a chopping block, whole grains and fresh fruits and vegetables. I got all the protein and calcium I needed. I enjoyed it. But I was tempted. I strayed into the elysian fields of pizza, steaks, hamburgers and soft drinks. I once was blind and now I see.

"Forks Over Knives" is not subtle. It plays as if it had been made for doctors to see in medical school. Few doctors seem prepared to suggest proper nutrition as an alternative to pills, stents and bypasses. Although regular exercise, especially walking, is invaluable, the film shows only a little exercise and focuses singlemindedly on nutrition.

The bottom line: I am convinced this message is true. A plant-based whole foods diet is healthy. Animal protein is not necessary, or should be used sparingly as Asians did, as a flavoring and not a main course. This adds the advantage of allowing us to avoid the chemicals and carcinogens pumped into livestock and poultry. Fast food is lethal. Parents who feed it to their children are helping them get hooked on fat, salt and sugar addiction. The facts are in. Didn't I warn you to stop reading?

P. S.: I have recently decided to ditch my canned nutrition and switch to a liquid diet based on fresh fruits and vegetables. Yes, I consulted my physician.
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[rogerebert.suntimes.com]

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

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Re: Roger Eberts Comments on the movie "Forks over Knives"
Posted by: durianrider ()
Date: May 13, 2011 04:15AM

Look forward to watching. Thanks for posting.

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Re: Roger Eberts Comments on the movie "Forks over Knives"
Posted by: eaglefly ()
Date: May 13, 2011 08:36AM

Cool.
Will have to see it.
It will be one for my dvd collection.

Vinny

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Re: Roger Eberts Comments on the movie "Forks over Knives"
Posted by: banana who ()
Date: May 13, 2011 02:19PM

Roger Ebert has had lots of health challenges lately. He was always a portly guy and then in 2002 had thyroid cancer, followed by salivary gland cancer and another surgery. I will bet he now understands the importance of plants as the focus of one's diet.

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Re: Roger Eberts Comments on the movie "Forks over Knives"
Posted by: paragon1685 ()
Date: May 13, 2011 07:05PM

Roger Ebert has seen the light, now that he
can't actually eat food (he can only consume
liquids); but at least he's helping spread
the word, about the importance of a healthy
diet, by reviewing this film.

Too bad the mass media, and it's entire co-
dependent infrastructure, will not run with
Ebert's review as a reason to at least check
out the film.

But I don't want to entirely blame the mass
media, since most people, in the U.S. anyway,
have some access to the Internet - and to this
type of information - if they wanted to see/hear
it. Though, as Ebert said in his review about why
he didn't change previously: "I knew the solution,
I was weak and lazy." I think that pretty much sums
up most apathy when it comes to diet.

Steve
[www.meetup.com]
[www.rawgosia.com]

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Re: Roger Eberts Comments on the movie "Forks over Knives"
Posted by: veghunter ()
Date: May 13, 2011 08:23PM

Thanks for the heads up. I saw it this afternoon.

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Re: Roger Eberts Comments on the movie "Forks over Knives"
Posted by: Trive ()
Date: May 13, 2011 09:45PM

And what did you think about it, veghunter?


My favorite raw vegan

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Re: Roger Eberts Comments on the movie "Forks over Knives"
Posted by: veghunter ()
Date: May 14, 2011 12:21AM

It was good and worth seeing, but could have been better. One of the things that I really liked about the documentary was that more emphasis was put on all the good that switching to a vegan or near vegan diet can do rather than all of the harm that eating animal products can do. It really highlighted how in just a few weeks people could not just potentially, but very probably, see dramatic changes to the extent of completely reversing (in some cases) diabetes, hypertension, etc., even if they've spent a lifetime abusing their bodies and had one foot in the grave (as some did). This along with encouraging people to put down the meds and immediately adopt a drastically better diet in order to heal was a very empowering message.

Another aspect that I liked was that the film didn't seem to have any vegan 'religious crackpot freaks' as Durianrider termed it in another thread. I think there is a bit of a dearth of vegan propaganda showing information from credentialed doctors and scientists as well as average/mainstream people making the diet changes without having to significantly alter their lives to fit into a completely different lifestyle or a new age or hippie mindset. Both Drs. Campbell and Esselstyn came across as very knowledgeable and diligent and truly concerned with our welfare. Really, the film stayed away from harshly villainizing and everyone in the film came across nicely. The tone wasn't rife with anger or spectacle for shock value or weepy drivel to tug at the heart strings.

I'm not sure who the audience was meant to be. I found it far too light on details to be aimed at a medical or scientific audience the way Ebert suggests. I didn't think it was amusing enough to pull in people who would watch it just for infotainment. I didn't think they gave enough detail as to what newbies who bought into their message should be eating, just avoid fats and animal products and eat more fruit and veg. But, the whole reason boards like this persist is because people need more guidance than that.

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Re: Roger Eberts Comments on the movie "Forks over Knives"
Posted by: Tamukha ()
Date: May 14, 2011 01:08PM

Jodi,

Thanks for posting this review/confession from Ebert--a pleasant surprise!

veghunter,

Thanks for posting your critical assessment of the film. This gives me a better idea of what the film makers are trying to say, and has decided me on seeing it when it plays here; I had planned to avoid it for fear of "preachiness" smiling smiley

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