"If someone believes Brian Clement looks like the typical SAD eater and you call them delusional, you aren't insulting them."


This guy can't hold himself upright. His posture is frozen into a hunched over state and on top of that he waddles like a much older man than he is, too. Not to mention the state of his skin which can be seen better on videos other than this corporate sales pitch one.

This is not the only video where he waddles back and forth across a stage but I picked this one because he had the gall @17:24 to refer the perks he gets because of being a physician!?


[www.youtube.com]

SueZ Wrote:
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> "If someone believes Brian Clement looks like the
> typical SAD eater and you call them delusional,
> you aren't insulting them."
>
>
> This guy can't hold himself upright. His posture
> is frozen into a hunched over state and on top of
> that he waddles like a much older man than he is,
> too. Not to mention the state of his skin which
> can be seen better on videos other than this
> corporate sales pitch one.
>
> This is not the only video where he waddles
> back and forth across a stage but I picked this
> one because he had the gall @17:24 to refer the
> perks he gets because of being a physician!?
>
>
>
> [www.youtube.com]


All I see is someone insecure about their aging so they're insulting the way others are aging. Still waiting on that example of someone who's in their mid-60's who looks much younger, which I'm surprised it's taken you so long since these people are "everywhere". By the way he's not waddling in any way, shape, or form, maybe you should put your glasses back on.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/24/2014 04:20AM by jtprindl.

In my opinion Dr Brian looks better than almost anyone in the raw movement, he leaves most in the dust. He has that special shine that eating such a high quality diet does. The fruitarians might have clean skin, but they don't have that beautiful shine. People who meet Dr Brian Clement in real life says he looks incredible and one of the healthiest looking raw fooders they have ever met.


Cameras and photos often don't show as person as good as they look in real life. This video doesn't show Brian off as well, but that clean skin and shine is there. Here is Dr Brian.
[www.youtube.com]

Another one of Brian. His head might be alittle bumpy, but his skin is clear and he glows:
[www.youtube.com]


Dr Graham (no shine at all). But John Kohler looks decent (all those fresh highly mineralised veggies).
[www.youtube.com]

The Fruitarian. Clean skin, but no shine. Show me a fruitarian who does have a shine.
[www.youtube.com]

No shine again:
[www.youtube.com]

Sproutman (in his mid 70's). WOW!!! Even Matt Monach was amazed at how good he looked in real life. Personally l think he might look the best in the raw movement, really amazing.
[www.youtube.com]

again in better light.
[www.youtube.com]


Dr Brian may have a bad posture, but habits can be hard to correct. He is full of life and has a sharp mind. He looks great in the video that Seuz posted.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/24/2014 06:13AM by The Sproutarian Man.

Some do not like Brian Clement because of his views on fruits and oils and his total commitment to sprouting.

That dislike is transferred into not liking him physically.

There is a name for that disease

It is the Brian-Clement-Thinks-My-Diet-Is-Trash-So-I-Proclaim-He-Does-Not-Look-Good Syndrome.

But there is a cure.

Try sprouting for a month and your view will change.

I never had much energy most of my life, and even as a kid l struggled to wake up each day and get out of bed. By 16 my fingers were starting to get stiff (chronic arthritis in family). In my teens l also suffered chronic heartburn and chronic skin conditions. In my 20's l had worse energy than l ever had and discovered l had leaky gut (said to be incurable), chronic poor digestion, liver problems, chronic underactive lythmphatic system, and under active liver. I also couldn't bend over without being out of breath and had lumps on my lungs (tumors??). I was ready to die and felt like l imagine a 70 year old would. My family history read like a nightmare...we have everything imaginable. I also was never breast fed.

The sprout diet fixed all that. For the first time l felt alive, and l have no option but to stick to this diet. I don't have the option of failing, l must make it work. I am well aware of the power of this diet and have come so far with it, and l want others to discover it's power too.

The sprout diet has been very good to me and all my wildest dreams have been exceeded. Never did l think l would ever get near achieving what l have on the sprout diet. Ann Wigmore was spot on about everything, the diet does heal and you do become like a child again and feel in high spirits. The fruit and vegetables have never done what the sprouts have done. Healing took a long time because I had countless serious health issues and l always didn't do things right when l first started. If l lived on SAD l wouldn't have made it past 40, no way.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/24/2014 12:06PM by The Sproutarian Man.

The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
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> In my opinion Dr Brian looks better than almost
> anyone in the raw movement, he leaves most in the
> dust. He has that special shine that eating such a
> high quality diet does. The fruitarians might have
> clean skin, but they don't have that beautiful
> shine. People who meet Dr Brian Clement in real
> life says he looks incredible and one of the
> healthiest looking raw fooders they have ever met.
>
>
>
> Cameras and photos often don't show as person as
> good as they look in real life. This video doesn't
> show Brian off as well, but that clean skin and
> shine is there. Here is Dr Brian.
> [www.youtube.com]
>
> Another one of Brian. His head might be alittle
> bumpy, but his skin is clear and he glows:
> [www.youtube.com]
>
>
> Dr Graham (no shine at all). But John Kohler looks
> decent (all those fresh highly mineralised
> veggies).
> [www.youtube.com]
>
> The Fruitarian. Clean skin, but no shine. Show me
> a fruitarian who does have a shine.
> [www.youtube.com]
> 2F28B7426AEA34B0
>
> No shine again:
> [www.youtube.com]
>
> Sproutman (in his mid 70's). WOW!!! Even Matt
> Monach was amazed at how good he looked in real
> life. Personally l think he might look the best in
> the raw movement, really amazing.
> [www.youtube.com]
>
> again in better light.
> [www.youtube.com]
>
>
> Dr Brian may have a bad posture, but habits can be
> hard to correct. He is full of life and has a
> sharp mind. He looks great in the video that Seuz
> posted.

I disagree but I do agree that sproutman looks good for his age.

I'd like to see video of Clement when he's not under controlled lighting. Graham and Kohler were in natural light. This means (obviously) that the comparisons made are unfair. Arnstein is in natural light in one of the vids and looks perfectly healthy to me. He looks reasonably good in the other one too. Sproutman looks like a very healthy elderly person. I would not mistake him for being under 65. There are a lot of people who look as good as all of these people who are on various diets. Maybe it's just where I live, i.e. around educated people with decent incomes who take care of themselves, but relative to age, I'm seeing nothing special here.

SueZ Wrote:
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> The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > In my opinion Dr Brian looks better than almost
> > anyone in the raw movement, he leaves most in
> the
> > dust. He has that special shine that eating such
> a
> > high quality diet does. The fruitarians might
> have
> > clean skin, but they don't have that beautiful
> > shine. People who meet Dr Brian Clement in real
> > life says he looks incredible and one of the
> > healthiest looking raw fooders they have ever
> met.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cameras and photos often don't show as person
> as
> > good as they look in real life. This video
> doesn't
> > show Brian off as well, but that clean skin and
> > shine is there. Here is Dr Brian.
> > [www.youtube.com]
> >
> > Another one of Brian. His head might be alittle
> > bumpy, but his skin is clear and he glows:
> > [www.youtube.com]
> >
> >
> > Dr Graham (no shine at all). But John Kohler
> looks
> > decent (all those fresh highly mineralised
> > veggies).
> > [www.youtube.com]
> >
> > The Fruitarian. Clean skin, but no shine. Show
> me
> > a fruitarian who does have a shine.
> >
> [www.youtube.com]
>
> > 2F28B7426AEA34B0
> >
> > No shine again:
> > [www.youtube.com]
> >
> > Sproutman (in his mid 70's). WOW!!! Even Matt
> > Monach was amazed at how good he looked in real
> > life. Personally l think he might look the best
> in
> > the raw movement, really amazing.
> > [www.youtube.com]
> >
> > again in better light.
> > [www.youtube.com]
> >
> >
> > Dr Brian may have a bad posture, but habits can
> be
> > hard to correct. He is full of life and has a
> > sharp mind. He looks great in the video that
> Seuz
> > posted.
>
> I disagree but I do agree that sproutman looks
> good for his age.

HH Wrote:
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> I'd like to see video of Clement when he's not
> under controlled lighting. Graham and Kohler were
> in natural light. This means (obviously) that the
> comparisons made are unfair. Arnstein is in
> natural light in one of the vids and looks
> perfectly healthy to me. He looks reasonably good
> in the other one too. Sproutman looks like a very
> healthy elderly person. I would not mistake him
> for being under 65. There are a lot of people who
> look as good as all of these people who are on
> various diets. Maybe it's just where I live, i.e.
> around educated people with decent incomes who
> take care of themselves, but relative to age, I'm
> seeing nothing special here.
>
> SueZ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > In my opinion Dr Brian looks better than
> almost
> > > anyone in the raw movement, he leaves most in
> > the
> > > dust. He has that special shine that eating
> such
> > a
> > > high quality diet does. The fruitarians might
> > have
> > > clean skin, but they don't have that
> beautiful
> > > shine. People who meet Dr Brian Clement in
> real
> > > life says he looks incredible and one of the
> > > healthiest looking raw fooders they have ever
> > met.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cameras and photos often don't show as person
> > as
> > > good as they look in real life. This video
> > doesn't
> > > show Brian off as well, but that clean skin
> and
> > > shine is there. Here is Dr Brian.
> > > [www.youtube.com]
> > >
> > > Another one of Brian. His head might be
> alittle
> > > bumpy, but his skin is clear and he glows:
> > > [www.youtube.com]
> > >
> > >
> > > Dr Graham (no shine at all). But John Kohler
> > looks
> > > decent (all those fresh highly mineralised
> > > veggies).
> > > [www.youtube.com]
> > >
> > > The Fruitarian. Clean skin, but no shine.
> Show
> > me
> > > a fruitarian who does have a shine.
> > >
> >
> [www.youtube.com]
>
> >
> > > 2F28B7426AEA34B0
> > >
> > > No shine again:
> > > [www.youtube.com]
> > >
> > > Sproutman (in his mid 70's). WOW!!! Even Matt
> > > Monach was amazed at how good he looked in
> real
> > > life. Personally l think he might look the
> best
> > in
> > > the raw movement, really amazing.
> > > [www.youtube.com]
> > >
> > > again in better light.
> > > [www.youtube.com]
> > >
> > >
> > > Dr Brian may have a bad posture, but habits
> can
> > be
> > > hard to correct. He is full of life and has a
> > > sharp mind. He looks great in the video that
> > Seuz
> > > posted.
> >
> > I disagree but I do agree that sproutman
> looks
> > good for his age.

You're probably right, HH.

Maybe my area is similar to yours as I'm mostly not seeing anything but less than special in the examples in this thread either.

My experiences of people I encounter in grocery stores is nothing like the experience TSM describes in his stores, too, which I am grateful for.

Funny how SueZ thinks she knows the age and health status of random people she see's out in public.

Dr Brian in natural light. One of my favourite videos - we are told the basis of our diet should be: sprouts, sea weeds and algaes. Couldn't agree more.
[www.youtube.com]

woau. When he started about the sugar (carbs) is disease, time to hang up. That's preaching or indoctrination. The worse part is that people with cancer may believe him. He may help people getting them away from junk but not giving then the best optimal anticancer diet or best heart disease diet. Protein in high amounts is bad (specially high methionine). Pretty much he is stuck in a legacy diet and cannot break away because this is how he makes his living and would contradict his legacy books. So he is to perpetuate and defend his past theories. I have nothing against sprouts but would not make it a staple. That's my opinion



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 02/24/2014 10:41PM by Panchito.

Sprouts or Fruits is the question.

Sprouts and Fruits is the answer.

Panchito Wrote:
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> woau. When he started about the sugar (carbs) is
> disease, time to hang up. That's preaching or
> indoctrination. The worse part is that people with
> cancer may believe him.


The body has an amazing ability to make adjustments. He based his theory that fruit sugar breeds cancer upon a couple of things.

1). Eddie-May Hansmeyer wrote of her experiences that when she ate the sweet dates during summer her tumors would always come back. When she stopped eating them they went away.

2). HHI used special technology to trace how cancer cells were drawn to the fruit sugar.

The problem was that these were only short term observations. According to Dr Robert Morse, the body makes adjustments (over the long term) to stop the fruit sugar from feeding the cancer, and he claims to have gotten rid of cancer from many people using fruit based diets.

And recent long term research suggests that the body may make adjustments to overcome phytic acid/mineral chelation, at least with calcium. That is a pretty significant finding.

I don't think Dr Brian Clement has the sugar thing worked out yet. One interesting thing he does say is that the high sugar hybridised fruit also damages the pancreas. Mankind was never designed to have high sugar content foods such as the hybrid fruits around now. He says very few people have optimal pancreatic functioning from his clinical observations.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/24/2014 10:54PM by The Sproutarian Man.

To get rid of cancer cells, you need to kill them. The natural way is through apoptosis. Thats why fruits (specially blueberries combined with black pepper or cardamom) kill or shrink the tumor. Fruits create more killer cells (immune system) and puts them to work. This is the "new" (not really) theory on cancer:

[nutritionfacts.org]

But I also understand that not everybody can have a diet with high sugar or carbs.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/24/2014 11:03PM by Panchito.

comparing liver anticancer effects of some fruits:

[nutritionfacts.org]

cranberries and lemons win

Well, if people are 80% raw (whatever else they eat), isn't that a great proof of validity of raw food diet?
I am absolutely certain that treating food with any kind of heat is not adding value - on the contrary, it is creating toxins! We all know that, it is a simple fact of life.
Raw food is the way to go. I just think we need a little bit of raw sea food also, or raw eggs, or something...but we don't need anything cooked, fried whatsoever! We do not need meat or milk! Absolutely not! This is a simple fact of science.

Sprouts
Alfalfa
Sunflower
Buckwheat
Wheat grass
Bean sprouts (each type)
Over-rated. As high in cellulose, low in energy value, limited in nutrient value, and contain toxic compounds. Those with a taste for them can eat during transition. Not optimal, however, and do not deserve the favorable reputation they enjoy.

life vs lifelessness

Diogenez Wrote:
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> Sprouts
> Alfalfa
> Sunflower
> Buckwheat
> Wheat grass
> Bean sprouts (each type)
> Over-rated. As high in cellulose, low in energy
> value, limited in nutrient value, and contain
> toxic compounds. Those with a taste for them can
> eat during transition. Not optimal, however, and
> do not deserve the favorable reputation they
> enjoy.

In your head. So in your head are cooked foods just transitional foods, too, since they seem to fit into this "nutritionally non optimal" compartment you've constructed for sprouts?

Diogenez Wrote:
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> Sprouts
> Alfalfa
> Sunflower
> Buckwheat
> Wheat grass
> Bean sprouts (each type)
> Over-rated. As high in cellulose, low in energy
> value, limited in nutrient value, and contain
> toxic compounds. Those with a taste for them can
> eat during transition. Not optimal, however, and
> do not deserve the favorable reputation they
> enjoy.


Actually sprouting increases nutrients by hundreds and sometimes thousands of percent and is loaded with phytochemicals, enzymes, hormones, oxygen, high-quality protein, electrical frequency, fatty acids, and chlorophyll. Brian Clement has stated that sprouts are 10-30x more nutritious than the best organic vegetable picked directly from your garden and the studies conducted on sprouting seem to back that up.

i don't eat cooked foods and i don't agree with the term transition. 'one can't ride to horses with one butt'

it doesn't matter what exists in your spouts that you find benefit from if toxins exist the platns wnat to be plants and bear fruit not have you kill them and cut their life and intention short.

brian clement lies allot

life vs lifelessness

Diogenez Wrote:
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> i don't eat cooked foods and i don't agree with
> the term transition. 'one can't ride to horses
> with one butt'
>
> it doesn't matter what exists in your spouts that
> you find benefit from if toxins exist the platns
> wnat to be plants and bear fruit not have you kill
> them and cut their life and intention short.
>
> brian clement lies allot


Sprouts will never bear fruit and if you're implying that we should be mostly fruitarian then you really have much to learn about the huge flaws of the Natural Hygiene diet. The "toxins" in sprouts aren't to be worried about, especially when you properly rotate which sprouts and grasses you are consuming.

if you allow plants to grow to maturity and they exist human foods they will furnish you with their fruits glady in hopes you spread them

i been this way my whole life . so you an't pull the ageism card on me

each toxins matters not to metion the lack of callories
grass - protoplasmic poison. spare me?

life vs lifelessness

Diogenez Wrote:
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> if you allow plants to grow to maturity and they
> exist human foods they will furnish you with their
> fruits glady in hopes you spread them
>
> i been this way my whole life . so you an't pull
> the ageism card on me
>
> each toxins matters not to metion the lack of
> callories
> grass - protoplasmic poison. spare me?


You're clearly uneducated and misinformed about sprouts and grasses.

"it doesn't matter what exists in your spouts that you find benefit from if toxins exist the platns wnat to be plants and bear fruit not have you kill them and cut their life and intention short."

Madness.

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Diogenez Wrote:
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> the platns
> wnat to be plants and bear fruit not have you kill
> them and cut their life and intention short.

Fruit has bacteria on the surface, and when we wash it off or eat unwashed fruit we are also cutting the life of bacteria short. Bacteria have intentions to, so how is this different from plants?

Breathing the air also cuts lives short. The point is, there is no such thing as a karma free feast.

With the rest of the comments made about sprouts and toxins, l won't bother to go there.

Fruit has toxins too, so does the air, so do most clothes sold today, so do many furnishings in houses. All foods have toxins, but there are ways to minimise the impact of toxin build-up such as using probiotics, fermentation, fasting and rotating foods.

THeSt0rm Wrote:
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> I would think that if anything eating seeds could
> be sub-optimal to fruits,


It might have once been once upon a time, but try living solely off fruit these days. Regardless, fruit eating is not a karma free feast. The system is said to be dsigned so we all incur some karma so we can live in physical bodies, but the key is to minimise it.

Sure we could minimise karma and live off fruit, but we could also minimise our life spans.

the benzoic acid from cranberries disqualifies them as a fruit we'd eat

life vs lifelessness

Nobody should cut down a tree just for sake of cutting it down.

The same for a fruit or any other living organism.

But the important thing to remember is that lower life form evolves more in consciousness through the cycle of rebirth.

Death will lead to a new re-birth with a higher degree of awareness.

The more rebirths the better.

Do not feel guilty for taking a tomato from a tree and eating it.

That is what it wants you to do.

So things are not as simple as we think.

There is a divine purpose in everything.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/02/2014 05:05AM by RawPracticalist.

Anon 102 wrote:

<<<Powerlifter has not given this diet his Seal of Approval. In fact, he said this diet is a fad, and dangerous because it is missing a horde of nutrients. The diet earned another thumbs down because of no animal consumption of which PL deems absolutely necessary.

What say you?>>>

Here's another question THE LYING MAN REFUSES to Answer!!!