[www.longevitywarehouse.com]

I noticed that David Wolfe already has a decent amount of grey on his beard and also maybe a bit on his sideburns. I think he's still younger than 40, so what do you guys think? Another thing I seem to notice in a lot of people is dark eye circles, even in raw food leaders like Brian Clement and David Wolfe in this video... is this always a sign of a deficiency/sleep deprivation or is it natural in many cases?

This is the best lol.

he'll always keep you alkaline.

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> I noticed that David Wolfe already has a decent
> amount of grey on his beard and also maybe a bit
> on his sideburns. I think he's still younger than
> 40, so what do you guys think? Another thing I
> seem to notice in a lot of people is dark eye
> circles, even in raw food leaders like Brian
> Clement and David Wolfe in this video...

is this
> always a sign of a deficiency/sleep deprivation or
> is it natural in many cases?

Neither. Poor food choices.

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> I noticed that David Wolfe already has a decent
> amount of grey on his beard and also maybe a bit
> on his sideburns. I think he's still younger than
> 40, so what do you guys think? Another thing I
> seem to notice in a lot of people is dark eye
> circles, even in raw food leaders like Brian
> Clement and David Wolfe in this video... is this
> always a sign of a deficiency/sleep deprivation or
> is it natural in many cases?


You think wrong. David Wolfe was born in August 1970, which would make him 43.5 years old.

It's one thing to speculate on matters like this but when incorrect info is presented as truth, I think it smacks of trying to m

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> > amount of grey on his beard and also maybe a
> bit
> > on his sideburns. I think he's still younger
> than
> > 40, so what do you guys think? Another thing I
> > seem to notice in a lot of people is dark eye
> > circles, even in raw food leaders like Brian
> > Clement and David Wolfe in this video...
>
> is this
> > always a sign of a deficiency/sleep deprivation
> or
> > is it natural in many cases?
>
> Neither. Poor food choices.


Both deficiencies and sleep deprivation can cause dark eye circles, but what would you be referring to?

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> > I noticed that David Wolfe already has a decent

> > amount of grey on his beard and also maybe a
> bit
> > on his sideburns. I think he's still younger
> than
> > 40, so what do you guys think? Another thing I
> > seem to notice in a lot of people is dark eye
> > circles, even in raw food leaders like Brian
> > Clement and David Wolfe in this video... is
> this
> > always a sign of a deficiency/sleep deprivation
> or
> > is it natural in many cases?
>
>
> You think wrong. David Wolfe was born in August
> 1970, which would make him 43.5 years old.
>
> It's one thing to speculate on matters like this
> but when incorrect info is presented as truth, I
> think it smacks of trying to m


Where did you find his age? Still though, Brian Clement is in his mid-60's and he doesn't have any grey yet.



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> > > amount of grey on his beard and also maybe a
> > bit
> > > on his sideburns. I think he's still younger
> > than
> > > 40, so what do you guys think? Another thing
> I
> > > seem to notice in a lot of people is dark eye
> > > circles, even in raw food leaders like Brian
> > > Clement and David Wolfe in this video...
> >
> > is this
> > > always a sign of a deficiency/sleep
> deprivation
> > or
> > > is it natural in many cases?
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> > Neither. Poor food choices.
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> Both deficiencies and sleep deprivation can cause
> dark eye circles, but what would you be referring
> to?

Just speculation but from what I know about their diets I suspect there are various things that they both eat that likely cause that.

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> > > > amount of grey on his beard and also maybe
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> > > > on his sideburns. I think he's still
> younger
> > > than
> > > > 40, so what do you guys think? Another
> thing
> > I
> > > > seem to notice in a lot of people is dark
> eye
> > > > circles, even in raw food leaders like
> Brian
> > > > Clement and David Wolfe in this video...
> > >
> > > is this
> > > > always a sign of a deficiency/sleep
> > deprivation
> > > or
> > > > is it natural in many cases?
> > >
> > > Neither. Poor food choices.
> >
> >
> > Both deficiencies and sleep deprivation can
> cause
> > dark eye circles, but what would you be
> referring
> > to?
>
> Just speculation but from what I know about their
> diets I suspect there are various things that they
> both eat that likely cause that.


Like what?

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> decent
>
> > > amount of grey on his beard and also maybe a
> > bit
> > > on his sideburns. I think he's still younger
> > than
> > > 40, so what do you guys think? Another thing
> I
> > > seem to notice in a lot of people is dark eye
> > > circles, even in raw food leaders like Brian
> > > Clement and David Wolfe in this video... is
> > this
> > > always a sign of a deficiency/sleep
> deprivation
> > or
> > > is it natural in many cases?
> >
> >
> > You think wrong. David Wolfe was born in August
> > 1970, which would make him 43.5 years old.
> >
> > It's one thing to speculate on matters like
> this
> > but when incorrect info is presented as truth,
> I
> > think it smacks of trying to m
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> Where did you find his age? Still though, Brian
> Clement is in his mid-60's and he doesn't have any
> grey yet.

Um...I am hardly a computer whiz and I just typed in 'David Wolfe birthday' and got this: [www.librarising.com]

I am trying to figure out what your agenda is here. Dark circles I associate with adrenal fatigue but also not getting enough sleep. People who tend towards mania might not sleep much during certain cycles. I am NOT saying that DW is bipolar. I am talking in generalities. Also, some people seem to have dark circles due to heredity. Robert Mitchum, anyone? That dude had serious dark circles! But as for judging aging with grey hair...DON'T. I know a family of men who eat meat and probably lots of other crap and have really dark hair into their 60s. One of them has had a heart attack and smokes like a chimney and still has dark hair and is in his 60s. Another example of heredity.

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> > decent
> >
> > > > amount of grey on his beard and also maybe
> a
> > > bit
> > > > on his sideburns. I think he's still
> younger
> > > than
> > > > 40, so what do you guys think? Another
> thing
> > I
> > > > seem to notice in a lot of people is dark
> eye
> > > > circles, even in raw food leaders like
> Brian
> > > > Clement and David Wolfe in this video... is
> > > this
> > > > always a sign of a deficiency/sleep
> > deprivation
> > > or
> > > > is it natural in many cases?
> > >
> > >
> > > You think wrong. David Wolfe was born in
> August
> > > 1970, which would make him 43.5 years old.
> > >
> > > It's one thing to speculate on matters like
> > this
> > > but when incorrect info is presented as
> truth,
> > I
> > > think it smacks of trying to m
> >
> >
> > Where did you find his age? Still though, Brian
> > Clement is in his mid-60's and he doesn't have
> any
> > grey yet.
>
> Um...I am hardly a computer whiz and I just typed
> in 'David Wolfe birthday' and got this:
> [www.librarising.com]
> olfe.html
>
> I am trying to figure out what your agenda is
> here. Dark circles I associate with adrenal
> fatigue but also not getting enough sleep. People
> who tend towards mania might not sleep much during
> certain cycles. I am NOT saying that DW is
> bipolar. I am talking in generalities. Also, some
> people seem to have dark circles due to heredity.
> Robert Mitchum, anyone? That dude had serious dark
> circles! But as for judging aging with grey
> hair...DON'T. I know a family of men who eat meat
> and probably lots of other crap and have really
> dark hair into their 60s. One of them has had a
> heart attack and smokes like a chimney and still
> has dark hair and is in his 60s. Another example
> of heredity.


Lol I don't have any agenda, I think David Wolfe is an extremely intelligent man, an inspiration and one he's one of my favorite raw foodists because he truly is a guru unlike many of the popular raw foodists out there today. I just noticed that his hair happened to be greying (43 is still young), which seems to be around when most SAD men starting greying as well. This isn't something I've looked into that much so I wouldn't know if its necessarily a negative thing, I was just curious about what others thought. But, if greying hair isn't a sign of aging, what is it?



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I have no clue what David Wolfe's diet is nor how fast he would or "should" age on any diet.

I think he has an interesting chiropractic routine

No judgements but both these people have deep lines on their faces, significant of poor organ health.

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> Lol I don't have any agenda, I think David Wolfe
> is an extremely intelligent man, an inspiration
> and one he's one of my favorite raw foodists
> because he truly is a guru unlike many of the
> popular raw foodists out there today. I just
> noticed that his hair happened to be greying (43
> is still young), which seems to be around when
> most SAD men starting greying as well. This isn't
> something I've looked into that much so I wouldn't
> know if its necessarily a negative thing, I was
> just curious about what others thought. But, if
> greying hair isn't a sign of aging, what is it?

Wrinkling of skin (not enough collagen due to free radical damage?), lack of flexibility (this is a BIGGIE--I think a yogi once said that your age is basiclaly determined by the flexibility of your spine) and mental acuity.

I am so over those people who are dissing DW's appearance, especially claiming he is pudgy. He is IRANIAN! On both sides! Certain ethnicities tend towards certain body types. Irish people tend towards skinniness. Does that make them healthy? NO! And he's fit. He's just not anorexic. The longer I stick around here, the more I think that many raw fooders are anorexic or on the borderline and think looking emaciated is actually a good thing. And they hate fat, even plant fat, because they are scared of BEING fat!



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> Just speculation but from what I know about their
> diets I suspect there are various things that they
> both eat that likely cause that.


>Like what?


all foods other than high water content fresh foods are likely to cause to cause skin wrinkles, dark circles and puffiness
due elimination problems. except for those who are overweight which will smooth out wrinkles.

so high fat, cooked, dried foods, nuts/seeds, etc

so nothing for you to worry about. you'll be youthful forever.

>I am so over those people who are dissing DW's appearance, especially claiming he is pudgy.

he is pudgy

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> he is pudgy


Yes, he is. Does he look one day younger than he is? Not IMO.

Iranians predisposed to being pudgy? Really?

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Powerlifter, I have been concerned about my zinc assimilation since you told me the vertical lines in my nails can be caused by that and you had them and they went away. I have yet to find one shred of conformation of what you said. Are you sure you are not talking about horizontal lines in nails instead of vertical?

[schatzie-speaks.hubpages.com]

I have no other signs of zinc deficiency that I am aware of.



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> Yes, he is. Does he look one day younger than
> he is? Not IMO.
>
> Iranians predisposed to being pudgy? Really?

LOL! Not being pudgy but having body types that lend themselves to a certain look. Let's not get silly and PC here. There are African countries where the peoples have very slender frames GENERALLY (like maybe not 100%). Examples? Ethiopians maybe? Kenyas? And other African countries where the people are more fleshy. Shorter, squatter. Indigeous people in Central America tend to be very short and small. They also tend to be "thin" because of their tradtional diet but might not look that way because of the body shape. Brazilian women tend to be very curvacious with booties Irish women? Not so much, LOL...

Check this out: [fc07.deviantart.net]
[fc09.deviantart.net]

They don't indicate that Persians are typically heavier than other ethnicities but in any case, some body types don't look as lean as others. It really is a bit silly to argue about this. I find him to look perfectly healthy with a good color to his complexion and very energetic.

To each his own but I am not impressed with gaunt, craggy types.



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> > Just speculation but from what I know about
> their
> > diets I suspect there are various things that
> they
> > both eat that likely cause that.
>
>
> >Like what?
>
>
> all foods other than high water content fresh
> foods are likely to cause to cause skin wrinkles,
> dark circles and puffiness
> due elimination problems. except for those who
> are overweight which will smooth out wrinkles.
>
> so high fat, cooked, dried foods, nuts/seeds,
> etc
>
> so nothing for you to worry about. you'll be
> youthful forever.


Evidence?

and yet he was lean before he got into the superfood, cacao, whatever else thing.

evidence is repeated personal experience isolating various food intakes and general observations of others.

sorry, no pubmed studies for you.

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> LOL! Not being pudgy but having body types that
> lend themselves to a certain look. Let's not get
> silly and PC here. There are African countries
> where the peoples have very slender frames
> GENERALLY (like maybe not 100%). Examples?
> Ethiopians maybe? Kenyas? And other African
> countries where the people are more fleshy.
> Shorter, squatter. Indigeous people in Central
> America tend to be very short and small. They also
> tend to be "thin" because of their tradtional diet
> but might not look that way because of the body
> shape. Brazilian women tend to be very curvacious
> with booties Irish women? Not so much, LOL...


Silly and PC or realistic? There has been world wide mixing of phenotypes for a long long time. That chart you post is a bad joke. There is certainly nothing homogenous in the look of people from most places . But if you are a short squat pudgy Eastern European shaped person who is happy with that sort of shape that's fine with me but it 's a cop out to say pudginess is part of the package. I'm a tall slim Irish person with a big booty, (now that I've grown it back after it deflated on hclf diet). Remember the Vikings or Spanish Armada in Ireland? Yet I also know a lot of tiny heavy boned compact Irish people. The point is there are scores of differently shaped people who have been through Iran throughout history - just as there have been almost everyplace else and none of them need to be pudgy - that is a choice.

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So how do you explain Fullyraw Kristina having dark circles? Her diet is low-fat and high-fruit.

[rawfullyorganic.com]

[www.theguruofyou.com]

One of Matt Monarch's recent videos where he mentions how some raw foodists are CRAZY and shy away from anything if it's not technically 100% "raw". In this case, black gelatinized maca. I have to agree, it seems as if many individuals in the raw community treat the diet like it's a cult and if it's not raw, it's unhealthy or deadly. His ego seeps out in this one, calling himself "one of the cleanest men on the planet, guaranteed", but nonetheless I agree on the previously mentioned point.

[www.therawfoodworld.com]



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I dont know her personally but if she eats a lot of spices and or high fat desserts and nuts , cashews, olives, etc as in her recipes, that could explain it.



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> of spices and or high fat desserts and nuts ,
> cashews, olives, etc as in her recipes, that could
> explain it.


BS. I'm old and do those things plus I average 60% lipids in my diet which is probably way way more than she does without having dark circles under my eyes.

She says she follows an 80/10/10 diet, which would be very little fat. Why would nuts, olives, cashews, or spices cause dark eye circles? I think in some cases it may just be hereditary and not a sign of anything. Matt Monarch has them in a lot of pictures, too.

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> It is believed that iron deficiency can contribute
> to the dark circles under the eyes.
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> Low iron isn't uncommon on vegan diets being that
> plant heme can be poorly absorbed. Women i find
> are more prone to low iron than males because they
> lose iron through their period. Pairing vitamin C
> rich foods with iron rich foods, can aid the
> absorption.
>


B12 and Vitamin K as well.



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> It is believed that iron deficiency can contribute
> to the dark circles under the eyes.
>
> Low iron isn't uncommon on vegan diets being that
> plant heme is poorly absorbed. Women i find are
> more prone to low iron than males because they
> lose iron through their period. Pairing vitamin C
> rich foods with iron rich foods, can aid the
> absorption.
>

I was anemic for 10 YEARS and never had dark circles under my eyes.



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