I was thinking, nobody seems to have any of the answers so we all have to explore ourselves.

Is a cooked food addiction an addiction to salivation?

Cooked foodists need it to digest blocks of meat and inedible chemicals. It always shows up around when you think of food and it makes you even more hungry because you have to get those juices flowing.

Can't that be addicting?

Just like I never ever ever have dreams on raw or fruitarian, I hardly ever salivate when I eat my raw vegan foods, they digest themselves practically.

GUYS I need your thoughts and expert opinions, in your own words..

Salivation, can it act like antibodies your body puts out when it consumes cooked food, and you get addicted to the process?

I think Lisa m thread Breatharianism, Bacteria, and the Original Sin [www.rawfoodsupport.com] provides the answer to why we are addicted to cooked food. Maybe the two threads can be tied together.

The salivation may be a call to the feed the bag guys inside the digestive track



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Coconutcream, not having dreams is a sign of being deficient in B vitamins.

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SueZ Wrote:
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> Coconutcream, not having dreams is a sign of being
> deficient in B vitamins.

I experience the same as coconutcream. no dreams/recall when eating cleanly.

i doubt it's b6 deficiency as it's not difficult to get sufficient amt.

more likely brain stimulated for lack of a better term by cooked/spices or even pills as in the study

[www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

fresh Wrote:
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> SueZ Wrote:
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> > Coconutcream, not having dreams is a sign of
> being
> > deficient in B vitamins.
>
> I experience the same as coconutcream. no
> dreams/recall when eating cleanly.
>
> i doubt it's b6 deficiency as it's not difficult
> to get sufficient amt.
>
> more likely brain stimulated for lack of a better
> term by cooked/spices or even pills as in the
> study
>
> [www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

With me it must have been the B12 deficiency. I have only just recently started taking B12 supplements and now I have my dreams back again. I really missed them. Dreams are important.

There are a lot of cooked food vegans who are addicted to their cooked food. So I do not think this is a matter of meat/dairy only.

But considering people who have spent their entire lives eating only garbage including copious amounts of animal foods. These people generally are not motivated enough to overcome their addictions unless it is a matter of life and death.

Their GI tracts are accustomed to being flooded with low- or no-fiber garbage. Their intestinal villi have adjusted to the high meat input. Their bodies do not synthesize certain molecules that are abundant in their diets.

Most of these people will really suffer on a diet based only on plants. They feel so deprived! They have to have something significant, like the possibility of dying, as a motivator for a major dietary change.

Now consider the cooked vegan. This diet is generally based around starches. These people also have problems when starch is removed. Most of them, too, feel deprived.

The way that most raw foodists deal with the need for satiety is to increase fat intake dramatically. This provides some feeling of fullness that lasts.

I am not wholly comfortable with increasing my fat intake as I consider most fats after EFA requirements are satisfied to be essentially empty calories with some potential to damage endothelial function. But if extra fat makes it possible to take in more greens, that must be considered, too.

They way I am eating now, I generally wake up instantly and effortlessly. But I do remember my dreams sometimes, because I sleep with my 3 beautiful dogs, and sometimes their actions wake me at night, like when they move, or scratch, or get restless, and my sleep cycle gets interrupted.

Considering all the things they do for me it is a worthwhile tradeoff. I sleep in a love sandwich, basically.

coconutcream, "I was thinking, nobody seems to have any of the answers so we all have to explore ourselves."


That's where you're wrong. TSM and jtprindl have all the answers.

storm,

10% of your post actually was relevant.

congratulations. that's a higher percentage than usual.

baby steps.

Salivation sounds kinky

I don't know about anyone else here, but I salivate
over really good quality fruit. Sometimes just the
site of bananas after not having them for a few days is enough.

There's these amazing clementines and cherry tomatoes
I get and they burst in your mouth with such an incredible flavor.
For fats, avocados and coconuts have this affect for me.
The smell of coconut is so heavenly... <3_<3

I think the SMELL of cooked foods is hard to overcome
for people. It can be quite aromatic, and that definitely
makes people salivate.

The smell of coffee...and other cooked smells seem to be inviting. But, I have tried to mentally stop at the very moment when I feel that something cooked 'smells nice' and analyse it...most of the times it is really NOT such a nice smell, it is my interpration...my brain's interpretation. In a cafeteria where I work, when I looke at all the cooked and fried food I am not attracted at all. It looks and smells sad.
If you stop and carefully analyse the cooked smell that seem attractive, you will always notice the deceit. It is your habbit, the way your brain interprets it.

I can agree that fried foods smell gross to me too.
Just the smell of all of that grease is repulsive.

My sense of smell has definitely increased over my health journey.

I like to take Michael Arnstein's approach on this matter:
you can appreciate the smell of something but at the same time,
recognize that that is not your food


rab Wrote:
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> The smell of coffee...and other cooked smells seem
> to be inviting. But, I have tried to mentally stop
> at the very moment when I feel that something
> cooked 'smells nice' and analyse it...most of the
> times it is really NOT such a nice smell, it is my
> interpration...my brain's interpretation. In a
> cafeteria where I work, when I looke at all the
> cooked and fried food I am not attracted at all.
> It looks and smells sad.
> If you stop and carefully analyse the cooked smell
> that seem attractive, you will always notice the
> deceit. It is your habbit, the way your brain
> interprets it.