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Re: suicide
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Anonymous User
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Date: August 29, 2010 01:33PM juicin' john Wrote:
> > we are all here on this planet for a reason. and > each of us has our unique assortment of problems > and difficulties.... and these are what can teach > us what we need to know about ourselves.....if we > would only use them correctly and for that > purpose. > > it is my opinion that suicide deprives one of the > opportunity to change their way of thinking and > feeling and thus being transformed onto a whole > other leval.... This is just gorgeous John. I recommend another book to speed along that process of self-healing, I recommend this book all the time but that's because it's honestly so good. Loving What Is by Byron Katie. Best read of my life so far. <3 Re: suicide
Posted by:
la_veronique
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Date: August 30, 2010 11:36AM i think that if one has achieved self love
everything one touches turns to gold if one has not achieved self love all other achievements are simply an effort to stretch towards self love but self love is where its at i think the way is different for everyone and they need to honor that Re: suicide
Posted by:
KidRaw
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Date: August 30, 2010 03:03PM Wheatgrass Yogi Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > I can see it happening late in life when ones > usefulness > is over. I'm not ready now. "Usefulness" to who or what? "Society"? Is there a certain age connected to when a person should kill themselves for the good of the Community? Re: suicide
Posted by:
KidRaw
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Date: August 30, 2010 03:17PM flipperjan Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > I lost a friend who lived a tormented life - > he did kill himself in the end and although I was > sorry to lose him I couldn't be sorry for him. He > found the peace that had evaded him all his life. How do you know he 'found the peace'? Nobody knows what happens to a person's soul who commits suicide. I believe (because I read it and it makes sense to me) that a person who commits suicide ends up a ghost who keeps reliving the suicide over and over. Re: suicide
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Anonymous User
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Date: August 30, 2010 05:59PM Ghosts? For real? That's a little too Santa Claus and toothfairy realm for me. I can't talk myself into believing any such thing.
Dead is dead. More peaceful than a tormented existance? Undoubtably so, though you wouldn't know it or be able to appreciate it because you'd be, well, dead. For me, I'd no sooner end my own life than I would cut off a limb because it was paining me. There is so much more, to focus on only one aspect of anything is a waste of everything else IMO. Then again, I don't have a crippled leg or crippling depression so how do I know just what I would do... Re: suicide
Posted by:
Tamukha
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Date: August 30, 2010 09:25PM I believe in ghosts, but I have heard of(and experienced) only those that ceased to be alive because of someone else's violence or unfortunate violent circumstances of no one's doing.
I wouldn't insist that someone's departed loved one became a ghost, wandering the earth ruefully, as the result of his suicide--not helpful! Re: suicide
Posted by:
Jgunn
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Date: August 31, 2010 03:17AM Despair is never a solution, it is the ultimate failure. In Tibetan we say, “if the rope breaks nine times, we must splice it together a tenth time”. Even if ultimately we do fail, at least we will have no feelings of regret. And when we combine this insight with a clear appreciation of our potential to benefit others, we can begin to restore our hope and confidence. -Dalai Lama ...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist  Re: suicide
Posted by:
eaglefly
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Date: September 23, 2010 01:38AM this house haunts me.
every room reverberates with the memory of what was shared in them,and who i have lost.lost ...due to not even knowing why. some kind of anger issue? impotence? house not being big enough? too far to drive? my meals not to their liking? my aspergers? disability? food stamps? my parents? their own emotional issues? the mental list goes on and on and haunts me every day. no...old tapes of leave it to beaver dont help. even wacking off to hours of internet porn doesnt even come close to filling the void. nor beer. but one thought gives realief. duct taping a flexible hose to my car tailpipe,and running the end of it into the interior,and sitting in there with the engine running,and going off to paradise Re: suicide
Posted by:
la_veronique
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Date: September 23, 2010 05:39AM hi eaglefly
well, why don't you write down 5 reasons why you haven't already put the hose into the interior of your car study that list and magnify it other people's "insights" are probably not going to cut it unless they come from yourself seems like your trust in other people has eroded to the point of non existence but maybe you could listen to trust your own voice starting now Re: suicide
Posted by:
powerlifer
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Date: September 23, 2010 10:33AM I went through many years of depression and strong feelings of suicide, even attempted it many times. It was a horrible time, im glad im over that horrible period now. It was all down to health issues aswell.
Im so glad i found herbs, cleaned up my diet with going vegan and incorporating proper exercise. Was a life saver literally. Re: suicide
Posted by:
Tamukha
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Date: September 23, 2010 09:49PM Vin,
Agree with la_veronique. I'll also add that lots of people saw fit to give you a shot initially, so maybe you should focus on what's good and loveable and worth preserving in you, yeah? Going over lists of shortcomings may seem productive, but if you're not a villain, and I know you aren't, it's actually a useless exercise. I've never met anyone decent who deserved to be happy who discovered their failures with people were something obvious--"It must have been my sideburns all along, of course!"--life and people don't work that way, hon. Re: suicide
Posted by:
Jgunn
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Date: September 24, 2010 05:22AM vinny ima gonna miss ya if ya suck on the pipe
please dont ...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist Re: suicide
Posted by:
eaglefly
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Date: September 25, 2010 10:03PM a hard sat.
a friend whoi thougtht i was going fishing with is going off to wherever. one after nother bites dust. this is hardest to hangon but total high on beer sitting now will read. Re: suicide
Posted by:
Jgunn
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Date: September 26, 2010 01:22AM my therapist tells me all the time to quit basing my happiness on other people
you. make your happiness and quit relyin on others they will just let you downo ...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist Re: suicide
Posted by:
la_veronique
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Date: September 27, 2010 12:31AM eaglefly says:
<<a hard sat. a friend whoi thougtht i was going fishing with is going off to wherever. one after nother bites dust. this is hardest to hangon but total high on beer sitting now will read.>> well, when you are finished with that beer, maybe get on your gear and take yourself out on a fishing date 
why the heck not? if that's your thaang  Re: suicide
Posted by:
eaglefly
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Date: October 03, 2010 01:26AM This thread should be closed.
Depression can be healed. Vinny Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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