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Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
Posted by:
rab
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Date: February 18, 2015 10:41PM Interestingly...I come from a Greek Orthodox country and no children are circumsized there. None.
Yes, circumsicion is a crime against people, against babies. I would execute, easily, any person who allows for that to happen...if I were Czar. Yes, you have some deamons attached to you because of circumsicion. Yes, this world is horrible. You also have many other deamons following and attacking you every day. So how are you even alive? Why? You are still here because you have UNLIMITED power. There is a guy who was born withouth both legs and arms. He has two beatuiful children and goes around the world, talking and inspiring people. You can chose self-pity and let yourself be controlled by deamons. Completely. They win, you lose. Or, you can fight...and win easily over the hordes of deamons. Easily. Actually, all we need to do is become aware of ourselves. Then, the dark forces have zero power over us. Cirucumcision will be insignificant, if you can truly see yourself. Up to you. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/18/2015 10:43PM by rab. Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
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coconutcream
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Date: February 19, 2015 04:56AM HERE IT IS GUYS!!
My friends, watch this stuff. its creepy. Basically how all of hollywood is prositution. How else do all these actresses wind up married to billionaires? From Escort dates. Insider tells of dark dark tales. To get parts you must play the game. VIDEO TELL ME WHAT YO THINK HERE FROM COMMENTS WOW! This one is a Doozy!! I stumbled upon a fascinating blog from 5 years ago from a woman that had worked in many areas of the Entertainment Industry (from Broadway to Hollywood). What followed were some fascinating observations on MANY celebs that have never been mentioned in these "conspiratorial circles" before, along with many that have, but with new information. She covers everything from mind controlled models, Michael Jackson clones, where the d-list actresses have gone, "serpents" in the Industry, to secrets behind Beauty Pageants and more. I compiled some of the most interesting here, I believe. Check it out, think for yourself of course, and you decide. YOU RAW FOLKS WILL BE CHANGED FOR LIFE AFTER HEARING THIS STORY. Start it around 20 min in if you want to hear the meat.  Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 02/19/2015 05:04AM by coconutcream. Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
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coconutcream
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Date: February 19, 2015 05:15AM Randy Quaid said they are STARWHACKERS and took care of David Carradine and Heath Ledger, they were sacrifices. Murdered
VIDEO Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/19/2015 05:17AM by coconutcream. Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
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fresh
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Date: February 19, 2015 02:31PM oh my god, make it stop. Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
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SueZ
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Date: February 19, 2015 02:52PM fresh Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > oh my god, make it stop. It can't stop itself and there seems to be no adult supervision. Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
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fresh
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Date: February 19, 2015 02:53PM maybe you could try a Corpus callosotomy Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
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fresh
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Date: February 19, 2015 03:06PM >maybe you could try a Corpus callosotomy
directed at storm, not suez. yes, storm, we all agree with you - the world is horrible. now what? do you just sit in your mom's basement all day ? Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
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fresh
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Date: February 19, 2015 03:14PM >Apparently genuine human expression is not allowed in the world.
it's allowed. you are the one who is awash in negativity and blaming everyone for your supposed troubles. >I certainly dont mock anybody as if it was the main mode of operation in this world. sometimes things need to be said to wake up certain people. although nothing seems to get through to you. do you feel that vomiting circ on this board incessantly is ok? productive? appropriate? why not write a book and try to sell it instead? why do you not realize that blaming and whining is pathetic and waste of time? what do you do all day? Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
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fresh
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Date: February 19, 2015 03:22PM THeSt0rm Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > I cannot do Jack. You sid so yourself. answer the question. what do you do all day then... what do you WANT to do all day Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
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John Rose
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Date: February 19, 2015 03:32PM <<<oh my god, make it stop.>>>
I’m beginning to think that THeSt0rm has a combination of Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy and Hypochondriasis, except THeSt0rm doesn’t have any children, so he plays the complex role of both parent and child and is excessively preoccupied about his physical and psychological symptoms from living is a Sick Society. If THeSt0rm does NOT suffer from a combination of Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy and Hypochondriasis, then he may be an empath or simply very empathic and is having difficulty with the vast majority of people having an extremely low Biophoton Level now that he has Bumped Up his Biophoton Level. It’s never easy for those who Bump Up their Biophoton Levels because no man is an island. The Individual cannot escape the Collective. As long as most people have an extremely low Biophoton Level, no one will ever Feel Connected like they should and some will suffer more than others. So I have 2 possible explanations for THeSt0rm. He either has a combination of Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy and Hypochondriasis or he is very empathic and is having difficulty living is a Sick Society where the vast majority of people have an extremely low Biophoton Level.  Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
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fresh
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Date: February 19, 2015 03:43PM could also be the inability to understand what a thought is.
that is, not something to take seriously. neither your own nor anyone else's. “I discovered that when I believed my thoughts, I suffered, but that when I didn't believe them, I didn't suffer, and that this is true for every human being. Freedom is as simple as that. I found that suffering is optional. I found a joy within me that has never disappeared, not for a single moment. That joy is in everyone, always.” —Byron Katie but storm apparently does not want to go there. he enjoys the woe is me story . elevates the ego at the expense of sanity. Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
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fresh
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Date: February 19, 2015 04:01PM answer the questions.
they are simple. THeSt0rm Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yep. Always. Anyone who suffers is just playing > the victim. > Anyone who gets circed as a child, did so > himself. > boo hoo. > Do you know, the first 21 days of the child, is > absolutely essential to the maturation of the > child, it is intentional to circ the child before > the 21 days has passed to ensure that the circ > trauma is burned into brain of the child for the > rest of his life. And the brain never goes back to > baseline. > > Circ. causes severe irreversable (by known/normal > means anyway) brain damage. It has to occur at a > time before the child as even the ability to > formulate an idea about the trauma. Such that, > later on in his life, the trauma can manifest as > ET/Demonic experiences. > fascinating. answer the questions. > people think that is funny. Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
Posted by:
fresh
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Date: February 19, 2015 04:09PM i am going to have to borrow an oft used wise saying by TSM....
Pffttt. Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
Posted by:
John Rose
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Date: February 19, 2015 05:04PM Mottoes to live by...
"Circumstances do not make a man, they reveal him." -Wayne Dyer "Circumcisions do not make a man, they reveal him." -THeSt0rm Here are a few of my favorites from my file on Circumstances: "Circumstances do not make a man, they reveal him." -Wayne Dyer “Man is not the creature of circumstances, circumstances are the creatures of men.” -Benjamin Disraeli "People are always blaming their circumstances for what they are. I don't believe in circumstances. The people who get on in this world are the people who get up and look for the circumstances they want and if they can't find them, make them." -George Bernard Shaw "We adults cannot blame our unhappiness on the environment, our upbringing, our family or friends, our jobs or anything else. We need to take responsibility for ourselves to be all we can be." -Susan Smith Jones "It's like the proverbial orange. If you squeeze an orange, what comes out of it is orange juice because that's what is inside. It's not because of who does the squeezing or what the circumstances are, it's because what is inside, that's what an orange is. When someone squeezes you, the same metaphor applies. If out of you comes anger or hatred or bitterness or fear, it isn't because of who did the squeezing; it isn't because of the circumstances, it's because that's what is inside. And what's inside of you is there because of how you choose to think and process your life." -Dr. Wayne Dyer, "Science of Mind" 1993 “If you have an area of life where you suffer, you have a condition of unworkability. This condition may seem to be caused by your circumstances, but it's not. Your circumstances are not the problem. They are just a symptom of something much deeper. The real problem is an underlying fear that forces you to interact in a way that creates your circumstances.” -Bill Ferguson “Your particular circumstances may seem to be the problem, but they're not. Your circumstances are just a symptom of a deeper problem. The real problem is this underlying condition of resistance. As long as you focus on the circumstances without addressing the underlying condition that creates them, nothing will ever change.” -Bill Ferguson “Upsets seem to be caused by the circumstances, but they’re not. No circumstance ever has the ability to make you upset. All a circumstance can do is strike a nerve in you. That’s why the same thing can happen to two people and one will be upset and one won’t. If the circumstance caused the upset, then everyone would react in the same way. Obviously, this doesn’t happen.” -Bill Ferguson, “Miracles are Guaranteed” p. 11 “If you are distressed about anything external, the pain is not due to the thing itself but to your own estimate of it; and this you have the power to revoke at any moment.” Marcus Aurelius, “ATGW” p. 60 “Although we’d like to believe it’s our intellect that really drives us, in most cases our emotions---the sensations that we link to our thoughts---are what really drive us.” -Anthony Robbins, “ATGW” p. 61 “So often we’re seduced into believing that events control our lives and that our environment has shaped who we are today. No greater lie was ever told. It’s not the events of our lives that shape us, but our beliefs as to what those events mean.” -Anthony Robbins, “ATGW” p. 73 “It’s not the events that shape my life that determine how I feel and act, but rather, it’s the way I interpret and evaluate my life experiences.” -Anthony Robbins, “ATGW” p. 179 “We are disturbed not by events, but by the views which we take of them.” -Epictetus “We are disturbed not by what happens to us, but by our thoughts about what happens.” -Epictetus “The presence or absence of this love seems to be a function of what happens around you, but it's not. It's a function of how you relate to what happens. In other words, the presence or absence of love is a function of you.” -Bill Ferguson “It’s not what happens to us, it’s what we do with it that counts.” -Naomi Judd “Naomi’s Breakthrough Guide 20 Choices To Transform Your Life, p. 36 “All the men of genius that we have ever heard of have triumphed over adverse circumstances, but that is no reason for supposing that there were not innumerable others who succumbed in youth.” -Lord Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970) English sociologist & philosopher Here's another one that seems appropriate... "To be wronged is nothing unless you continue to remember it." -Confucius Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
Posted by:
rab
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Date: February 19, 2015 05:38PM Thanks, John. Those are really nice quotes. I find myself in many of them... 
'THeSt0rm', here is what I think your therapy should be: make three sons! And...you guessed it...don't circumcise them! That will be your triumph! How to make three sons? Make the first one first...then work on the second one. And so forth Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
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RawPracticalist
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Date: February 19, 2015 05:44PM A bigger question is Why are not the raw vegans ELITE Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/19/2015 05:45PM by RawPracticalist. Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
Posted by:
rab
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Date: February 19, 2015 08:06PM Storm, you are wrong. Stop whining and live. You are not listening to any of us, you are just focused on your illusion, on your huuuuuuuuuuuuuge self-pity. Obsessed with it.
It is insulting how much you are convinced that you know more than all of us. You "disagree"...becasue you prefer your biggest friend: SELF-PITY. That is going to be your partner for the rest of your life. I can see how two of you fit together, you can go everywhere together...you even look alike. Your big buddy SELF-PITY and you. Oh, how nice it is, isn't it? It is much better than marriage. In marriage you need to fight, risk, listen to complains...think about somebody else! But your best friend, coolest of them all, SELF-PITY, only wants to talk about you! Ain't that cool???? Who else is so devoted, so steady, so selfless? Bravo! Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
Posted by:
RawPracticalist
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Date: February 19, 2015 08:19PM Can we just be kind and considerate to each other
We are our brother keeper. Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
Posted by:
rab
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Date: February 19, 2015 08:54PM Storm, just stop! 'reptilian brain' BS. Blah, blah.
Listen to John and other smart people here! Read his stuff again and again! Don't think you are the smartest here...it takes a village to raise a child! Don't be obsessed with your own thoughts, learn to listen...and accept. You are ignoring very good advice, especially coming form John and other more experienced teachers. You can ignore me if you don't like my (harsh and direct) style, but if you keep on listening only your own thoughts...you will keep dragging yourself into a spiral of bad thoughts, creating more bad thoughts...unless you like it too much that way. Shut up and listen! That is an advice your brother should give you. Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
Posted by:
rab
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Date: February 19, 2015 10:08PM who did not treat you well? Apart from me, everyone else was extremely nice and polite with you. I am the only one yelling but that is how I am. I did not mean to hurt you, just trying to tell you the obvious.
I still don't believe in your fantasy story...but if that is what you choose to believe, then so be it. I think you are a good guy underneath a pile of unnecessary burden that you carry by your own choice. Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
Posted by:
fresh
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Date: February 20, 2015 01:36AM storm,
did you actually read any of the words that rab wrote to you? do you enjoy the attention here? Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
Posted by:
coconutcream
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Date: February 20, 2015 02:03AM Storm, John
What if in an alternate universe, where we are all responsible for everyone around us...what would we do then? If we are responsible for everything that happens to everyone around us , what would we do? Because not doing anything also has consequences in this reality. Everything that happens around you, you have an influence on, forever in all time. WHAT IF What would you do? Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
Posted by:
rab
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Date: February 20, 2015 02:54AM Fantasy, based on some facts, some vague circumstantial (sic) evidence, some prejudice, some hear-say, some not founded theories (a lot of poorly documented theories like 'reptilian brain')- all of which is the base for the phantasmagoric construct you think is your reality.
I suggest you read Wilhelm Reich...he was everything that Sigmund Freud never was. Storm...I don't know you and I can't give advice. I hate when different 'psychologists' give advice on tv, radio etc. I would arrest them for that...(I have a very kind character, I would arrest and execute many people ), that is nothing but criminal behaviour. Yet, here I am telling you what to do...
In order to advise anyone, you have to know them (and study them) for a longer time and you have to be somebody like Wilhelm Reich. ...and, again, I apologize if I said too much. I usually do. I will not write about this any more. Enough is enough. Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
Posted by:
NuNativs
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Date: February 20, 2015 03:22AM Get some help dude... Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
Posted by:
John Rose
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Date: February 20, 2015 09:36AM Here is a really good article from my file on Epictetus. [willpower.4mg.com] A Guide to Happiness Life is full of difficult and unpleasant circumstances. But you don't have to be miserable whenever life gets tough. By using this guide to happiness, you can face life's challenges with equanimity, and remain happy most of the time. Epictetus, the great stoic philosopher, who was born a slave, had this to say about happiness: Happiness and freedom begin with a clear understanding of one principle: Some things are within our control, and some things are not [within our control]. It is only after you have faced up to this fundamental rule and learned to distinguish between what you can and can't control that inner tranquility and outer effectiveness become possible. Broadly speaking, and as Epictetus taught, there are only two types of problems: those you can do something about, and those you can't (See Table 1). An example of a changeable situation is having an unpleasant job or career. An example of an unchangeable situation is having been jilted by a lover. Table 1 Situation that you can't change Situation that you can change Most of our unhappiness comes from forgetting Epictetus's valuable lesson. All of us, from time to time, make ourselves miserable by whining about things that are outside of our control and can't be changed. But all the whining in the world can't undo what's been done. The other mistake that we commonly make is to do nothing about situations that we have the power to change; we sit and stew over our predicament instead of getting off our backside and doing something about it. In 1932, taking a leaf from Epictetus, Dr. Reinhold Niebuhr, of the Union Theological Seminary, NYC, composed what has come to be known as The Serenity Prayer. God give me the serenity to accept things which cannot be changed; Give me the courage to change things which can be changed; And the wisdom to distinguish one from the other The Serenity Prayer introduces us to the second way that we make ourselves unhappy. We not only fail to distinguish between changeable and unchangeable situations, but we often react to them in self-defeating ways. Broadly speaking, there are only two ways of dealing with problems: in a helpful way, and in an unhelpful, self-defeating way (See Table 2). Table 2 Deal with problems in an unhelpful way Deal with problems in a helpful way Dealing with problems in a helpful way means acting calmly and courageously (as per The Serenity Prayer) to either accept or change our circumstances. Dealing with them in an unhelpful, self defeating way means feeling angry, guilty, or depressed over things that can't be changed, and procrastinating or avoiding doing anything about unpleasant situations that can be changed. We've seen that there are two types of problems and two ways of dealing with them. When we combine these ideas we end up with a matrix that can act as your guide to happiness. 1. Situation that you can't change, dealt with in an unhelpful way. 2. Situation that you can't change, dealt with in a helpful way. 3. Situation that you can change, dealt with in an unhelpful way. 4. Situation that you can change, dealt with in a helpful way. The Guide To Happiness has four quadrants. Each quadrant shows a different type of problem and a different way of dealing with it. Two quadrants (2 & 4) show the path to happiness and serenity, and two (1 & 3) show the path to misery. An example from each quadrant would be as follows: 1. Sitting at home stewing, feeling depressed and angry over being jilted by a lover. 2. Feeling disappointed about being jilted but getting on with life and seeking a new partner. 3. Whining and complaining about your job to anyone who'll listen, but not doing anything to change careers. 4. Actively seeking a new job. The Guide suggests that happiness, in the face of difficult circumstances, is a two-step process. Firstly, make sure that you are on the right level. Are you whining about or trying to change an unchangeable situation? Are you doing nothing about a problem that you could change if only you would apply yourself to it? Secondly, make sure that your response to your situation is helpful and not self-defeating; make sure that you are in one of the right-hand quadrants. To learn how to move from left to right – from an unhelpful to a helpful method of dealing with your problems - we return to Epictetus, who said: Things themselves don't hurt or hinder us. Nor do other people. How we view these things is another matter. It is our attitudes and reactions that give us trouble. … We cannot choose our external circumstances, but we can always choose how we respond to them. In other words, you feel and act the way that you think. Thinking unhelpful thoughts leads to misery and defeat; thinking helpful thoughts leads to serenity and happiness. Howard Young provides an everyday example of how this works: Suppose two young children are playing in the ocean, and a big wave knocks them both down. One child might run to his mother crying and be quite frightened. The other child may be quite thrilled and decide to stay in the water until the next wave comes along. The facts, as you can see, are the same. The wave hit both children; however, it was their evaluation that was different. Thus, it was not the wave that caused the different reactions, but rather the different attitudes of the children about the wave. The good news is that your thoughts are under your control; they are one thing in life that you can change. You can choose what to think, and consequently, how to feel. But before we look at how to change your thoughts, let's look at the four types of thinking that lead to unhelpful, self-defeating reactions in difficult circumstances. • Demanding: You take a useful principle or guideline and turn it into an absolute rule that everyone must obey. When you use words like 'should,' 'must' and 'ought' it is as though you are creating a Law of the Universe that must always be observed. Another way that we demand is to take our preferences, our goals and desires, and turn them into needs e.g. "I really need a new job." • Awfulizing: You make a mountain out of a molehill by telling yourself that your situation is awful. Instead of regarding your circumstances as unpleasant or unfortunate, you think and act as though it is the end of the world. • Intolerance: You tell yourself that you can't stand things the way that they are. Undoubtedly, you will face many difficult circumstances throughout your life, but only one of them kills you. When you tell yourself that you can't stand what's going on in your life, you're telling yourself that this is the one that will do you in. In most cases, this is plainly false and a huge exaggeration. • People-Rating: You start by evaluating what you (or someone else) has done, and then you give the same rating to the person involved. If you do a good (or bad) thing, you tell yourself that you are a good (or bad) person. People-rating is like judging a book by its cover. One good (or bad) act does not make a good (or bad) person. We all do some good and some bad things, so judging the whole person by one or two actions doesn't make sense. Take another look at the Guide To Happiness 1. Situation that you can't change, dealt with in an unhelpful way. 2. Situation that you can't change, dealt with in a helpful way. 3. Situation that you can change, dealt with in an unhelpful way. 4. Situation that you can change, dealt with in a helpful way. When you find yourself in one of the left-hand quadrants, there are 6 steps you can take to move across to the right-hand side. 1. Ask yourself how long you want to continue feeling the way you do, and acting the way you are. This will force you to quickly realize that you are in control of your feelings and your actions, and that you can change them by changing the way that you think. 2. Ensure that you are on the correct level. Is your situation one that you have control over or not? If you are reacting to something that has already happened, then obviously you cannot change it. If it's happening now, or about to happen, then you might - but not necessarily - have some control over it. 3. Ask yourself how you would prefer the situation or your circumstances to change. If you had a magic wand, what would things look like? 4. Now that you know what you'd like, ask yourself if it is compulsory, or absolutely necessary for you to have what you want. Is there a law of the universe that says things must be the way you want them to be? 5. Ask yourself how bad it really is if you don't get what you want. Is it the end of the world? Will it kill you if your wishes aren't met or your circumstances don't change? Don't gloss over how bad it is, but don't exaggerate either. 6. Rate the situation, not the people involved. By all means recognize that things could be better, but don't make the mistake of judging people. Christians have a saying that God loves the sinner but hates the sin. In other words, He distinguishes between people and their deeds. You can do it too. You can draw a distinction between people's actions, and their worth as human beings. By using the Guide to Happiness and following the 6 steps outlined above, you can stubbornly refuse to make yourself miserable over anything and remain calm and happy for most of your life. [willpower.4mg.com] OK, THeSt0rm, what are you going to do? Are you going to continue to dwell of a problem that is OUTSIDE OF YOUR CONTROL? Indeed, it's time for you to find the Wisdom to know the difference between a Problem that is Within your Control and a Problem that is Outside of your Control! Peace and Love.......John Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
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RawPracticalist
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Date: February 20, 2015 10:25AM The German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche had an answer to Epictetus.
We must not just sit there and be content for identifying the things we cannot change. [thephilosophersmail.com] Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/20/2015 10:29AM by RawPracticalist. Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
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fresh
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Date: February 20, 2015 03:00PM THEstorm,
not once have you ever discussed what you think is troubling you. OTHER THAN CIRC. why are you spewing here, if you are not being honest? might as well be talking to yourself. Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
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fresh
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Date: February 20, 2015 03:14PM that's a cop out.
imagine THAT YOU ARE WRONG about circ, even if it's just a 1% chance, just as a hypothetical. maybe aliens are controlling your brain, and it's not really circ. maybe you have a brain tumor, for example, and you just THINK it's circ. THEN describe what you feel is preventing you from being what you wish to be. if you cannot do that, then i say you are a coward seeking attention. Re: Why aren't the ELITE raw vegan?
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coconutcream
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Date: February 20, 2015 03:22PM john, Great post everyone read it
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Posted by:
fresh
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Date: February 20, 2015 03:37PM you are so afraid .
yet there is nothing to be afraid of. many people here would love to talk to you and are very caring and empathetic. but you are not talking. you are hiding behind circ. meanwhile it's quite apparent that millions of people have enjoyable lives even while having been circed. choosing not to do so (speak honestly without blaming CIRC) is simply you identifying with your poor me story. Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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