I watched part of this vid where David Wolf came out as an expert of a low carb paleo promotion video cloned as something else.

[www.youtube.com]

For example, check out what this guy called Abel James, says:

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Abel James 01:08:00

The brain is primarily made of fat. When you fuel with fat as your food source, then you actually get this exceptional mental clarity that you are not used to if you are burning sugar most of the time

1 The fat % in the brain is only 10%. It is not primarily made of fat.

2 The neurons work by glucose. When you stop eating fat and feed the brain with glucose (its designed food), you get mental clarity.

"1 The fat % in the brain is only 10%. It is not primarily made of fat."

[www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] - "The human brain is nearly 60 percent fat."

The overall consensus appears to be that the brain is ~60% fat from a variety of sources.

[www.alzprevention.org] - "Your brain is comprised of 60 percent fat and is the fattiest system in your body."



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[www.google.com]

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According to H.H. Mitchell, Journal of Biological Chemistry 158, the brain and heart are composed of 73% water, and the lungs are about 83% water.

73% is water, where do you get the 60% fat??? Actually ~10% is protein, whcih is very similar to fat %



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/02/2015 04:29AM by Panchito.

1. It's not the same kind of fat as body fat.
2. you don't need to eat dha and cholesterol to feed the brain, as is implied by those promoting fatty diet with scare tactics about the brain.

Panchito Wrote:
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> [www.google.com]
> nt&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=water+brain+percentage
>
> According to H.H. Mitchell, Journal of Biological
> Chemistry 158, the brain and heart are composed of
> 73% water, and the lungs are about 83% water.
>
> 73% is water, where do you get the 60% fat???
> Actually ~10% is protein, whcih is very similar to
> fat %


60% must be not including the water

fresh Wrote:
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> 60% must be not including the water

Right. The brain is primarily water (73%), not fat. The rest (27%) is protein and fat.

That means you should be eating a lot of fruit like water melon (high in water) ja ja



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/02/2015 05:20AM by Panchito.

Abel James appears to be missing some important information:

Regardless of what the brain is made of, the brain cannot use any fat for fuel at all, because fat will not cross the blood brain barrier (BBB ). For that reason, glucose is the preferred fuel for the brain. During periods of fasting or starvation, the brain uses ketones for fuel.

"Two types of cells are notable in that they do not use fat as a fuel. Red blood cells (RBC’s) have no mitochondria and consequently RBC’S do not use fat. Brain has mitochondria but it does not use fat for energy. The reason for this is that fat in circulating blood does not cross the specialized capillaries of the brain (these capillaries are called the blood brain barrier). We learned before that brain uses glucose for fuel. However, as we will discuss in this chapter, under long term fasting, the brain switches fuel from glucose to ketoacid compounds. Liver makes ketoacids from fat, and so only under non-feeding conditions, does the brain indirectly uses fat."

[www.med.upenn.edu]

A bit of personal experience: Having fasted often, I can confidently say there is absolutely no way my brain functions as well intellectually during fasting as it does when I'm not fasting. In fact, I've had to break fasts just to be able to study or perform challenging mental tasks (like writing papers or reading/understanding difficult texts).

WHen I click on the link it takes me to a movie, this is two hours long and you want me to watch? OK...I will get back to you with a movie review. SIGH.

No, I am glad, this looks really good, thanks.

David is cool, he was my inspiration a long time ago, he disappeared. He sold his business I think and just disappeared, now doing talks I think on success and stuff. I met him several times. He likes to talk and has charisma and can hypnotize his audience. I think he really likes NLP too. He loves women and loves to brag, he even wrote a song about all his stalkers. I will watch and let you know.



You know the vegan raw diet may be the illuminati plan for all humanity. Thats what this intro suggests. The raw police. I love it. Keepers of the galaxy are telling us what to eat. Oh its getting interesting, cave in Africa...where the first human families lived...( I think humans have always been here) Every human shares a genetic history with these ancestors. Ok yadadadaydyadyayada
yadaydayad blah blah about brains and the fats and insulating nerves and myelin made out of fat so you need fat for your brain. Bettyyybeety bum bum blah blah

Ok now a bushman tracker is talking. Now about fire, how we discover and became technological..how about we always have been..

OOH David Wolfe at 6:56 saying if we get smart we choose alternative energy..now talking about overpopulation...yeah ok, everyone has opinion and they are explaining their point of view.

now the fire is on the verge of burning us...this is good, I got to sign off and go the couch now.





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Panchito Wrote:
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> fresh Wrote:
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> > 60% must be not including the water
>
> Right. The brain is primarily water (73%), not
> fat. The rest (27%) is protein and fat.
>
> That means you should be eating a lot of fruit
> like water melon (high in water) ja ja


You're trusting that the textbook you linked is accurate and the two sources I posted are inaccurate. Also, it may not be that simplistic. For example, as an analogy, when people speak of diet percentages, your macronutrient percentages are usually different than macronutrient weight percentages. As an example, using CRON-O-Meter, I can create a menu where 78.5% of calories are carbohydrates but when it comes to overall grams of food consumed it's 86% carbohydrates. Could be a similar scenario going on with brain water and fat percentages.

I see what you mean, this movie is a teeny weeny bit green socialist...that somehow GAIA, or MOTHER EARTH is more important than me. I am the last on the list to save apparently. And who is speaking for Gaia? Does she communicate to a chosen few? She, or IT, now has rights over me? And her own team to talk for her? Reminds me of all the UN BS or AL GORE global warming guilt. But I am watching on...I can catch this quickly. Look good is good and evil is evil. Its all in the language. YOu have to all learn to recognize it. Everyone wants to save Gaia, so they can get everyone to agree...and get behind this, and then what, THE PLAN... EARTH WILL EAT YOU ANYWAYS It dont need savin! I need saving! Raw foods will save me.

I KNOW HE JUST DIDNT CALL US PARASITES! And some guy is sitting here talking about what its like to be a deer...





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I think the plan is to move people into the cities as worker bees. And turn the country back into forests. And if you disagree you go get disappeared. Also to bring the population back to 500 million. This video supports that. That we are bad, we are poisoning the Earth. We are so bad. Thats what this movie is telling me, I am terrible. I need to do something because I ruined Christmas and Killed my Home. I do not feel love. I feel bad.

I dont do any of those things, they say we all do, I dont, but I see most people who choose to live in society really have messed up realities I get that, but these people choose to live how they live.

I myself, I do not like the dark ages, I do like science and technology. I use it now. That is part of nature. Because it is happening. I think people are great are good. I feel love for humanity. I think raw vegan foods is a good message. I do.

I like how this movie looks at the human body. I love that. THANK GOD THE BRAINWASHINGH PROPAGANDA IS OVER, if you guys want to FF it starts at 35 minutes. Now the real movie starts. They are talking about the gut.

OH MAN. Its so true. Its gets way better. Just start the film at 35 minutes in.

They are now talking about my body and not GAIA. Now you got my interest.

It is such a reflection on the world, your gut, I agree, but I do not poison my gut, I am a raw vegan. I would not be able to be one if this society did things for gaia first. Supermarkets would not exist.





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coconut cream wrote:
"Supermarkets would not exist."

WE could create worldwide Food Forests in the landscape instead and free all farmers, store workers, delivery drivers managers, accountants etc. etc. instead. WE're doing things the hard way, trust me...

jtprindl Wrote:
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> You're trusting that the textbook you linked is
> accurate and the two sources I posted are
> inaccurate.

I already posted this here before. There is no conflict. It is only a question of how long takes you to accept the truth.

[www.rawfoodsupport.com]

[faculty.washington.edu]

Composition of Brain and Muscle

	Skeletal Muscle (%) 	Whole Brain (%)
Water 	75	                77 to 78
Lipids 	5	                10 to 12
Protein 18 to 20         	8

Panchito Wrote:
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> jtprindl Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You're trusting that the textbook you linked is
> > accurate and the two sources I posted are
> > inaccurate.
>
> I already posted this here before. There is no
> conflict. It is only a question of how long takes
> you to accept the truth.
>
> [www.rawfoodsupport.com]
> 6984#msg-256984
>
> [faculty.washington.edu]
>
> Composition of Brain and Muscle
>
> Skeletal Muscle (%) Whole Brain (%)
> Water 75 77 to 78
> Lipids 5 10 to 12
> Protein 18 to 20 8


The reference for that chart is from a 1985 textbook which you haven't read and have no clue how they came to their conclusion.

you are both right.

I think it's just the paleo bro science dudes are talking about the percent of brain tissue which may be 60%, and the actual percent of total is 10%.

not a big deal, and it is meaningless with respect to diet.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/02/2015 05:52PM by fresh.

jtprindl, the publication date does not mean anything in this context. The brain does not evolve that fast ja ja. I actually read several books with that similar percentages. But how many books have you read other than quick internet links?

[www.caloriecount.com]

By weight, the brain might be 75% water but by matter is 60% fat.

[www.psychologytoday.com] - "Approximately 60 percent of your brain matter consists of fats that create all the cell membranes in your body. Let's review: The good fat in your brain matter creates all the cell membranes in your body!"

[www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
[www.alzprevention.org]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/02/2015 05:58PM by jtprindl.

"I actually read several books with that similar percentages. But how many books have you read other than quick internet links?"

Lots of them.

Also, the percentage of water, lipids, and protein of our brain in no way indicates that we should be consuming those percentages of fat and protein in our diet.



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jtprindl, Fresh spoke the truth. And you did not explain how cows brain (a mammal) is 10% fat. As I imagine, it will take you a while to accept the truth. Imagine if you were actually teaching people ja ja

"the fat in your brain creates all the cell membranes in your body"?????

says psychology today?

I don't think so.

Panchito Wrote:
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> jtprindl, Fresh spoke the truth. And you did not
> explain how cows brain (a mammal) is 10% fat.
> As I imagine, it will take you a while to accept
> the truth. Imagine if you were actually teaching
> people ja ja


I see you're off in your own world of grandiose delusion again.

Just in case anyone missed this before:

Regardless of what the brain is made of, THE BRAIN CAN NEVER USE ANY FAT FOR FUEL AT ALL, because fat will not cross the blood brain barrier (BBB ). For that reason, glucose is the preferred fuel for the brain. During periods of fasting or starvation, the brain uses ketones for fuel.

"Brain has mitochondria but it does not use fat for energy. The reason for this is that fat in circulating blood does not cross the specialized Two types of cells are notable in that they do not use fat as a fuel. Red blood cells (RBC’s) have no mitochondria and consequently RBC’S do not use fat. capillaries of the brain (these capillaries are called the blood brain barrier). We learned before that brain uses glucose for fuel. However, as we will discuss in this chapter, under long term fasting, the brain switches fuel from glucose to ketoacid compounds. Liver makes ketoacids from fat, and so only under non-feeding conditions, does the brain indirectly uses fat."

[www.med.upenn.edu]

A bit of personal experience: Having fasted often, I can confidently say there is absolutely no way my brain functions as well intellectually during fasting as it does when I'm not fasting. In fact, I've had to break fasts just to be able to study or perform challenging mental tasks (like writing papers or reading/understanding difficult texts).



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/02/2015 06:34PM by suncloud.

"Regardless of what the brain is made of, THE BRAIN CAN NEVER USE ANY FAT FOR FUEL AT ALL, because fat will not cross the blood brain barrier (BBB ). For that reason, glucose is the preferred fuel for the brain. During periods of fasting or starvation, the brain uses ketones for fuel."

Doesn't have any relevance to the thread. Anyways, eating more than what's considered "low-fat" doesn't mean not consuming carbohydrates. Another reason your brain functioning was diminished could be lack of nutrients (including fats).

suncloud,

yes, and it was noted and appreciated.

i don't know maybe the dude in the video was talking about ketosis.

Thank you fresh.

Thanks Suncloud. Yeah the broScience guy in the video (01:08:00) is creating a story of fantasy of fat being needed to get mental clarity. He is 'confused on many points as Suncloud cleared that fat does not fuel the brain and the brain is not primarily made of fat.

It would be crazy if these people were doing seminars, etc., and living from selling ignorance.



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Fats are absolutely essential to proper brain functions. This guy cured his alcholism with coconut oil when nothing else worked.

"He started taking coconut oil daily and within four days experienced the sense of relief from symptoms that he got from alcohol - without the intoxication or the hangover. He experienced a sense of well-being and the ability to think clearly and rationally while sober. Over the next few weeks, he continued with coconut oil and achieved a complete resolution of the irritability, melancholy, and mental anguish that had plagued him while sober. His dry drunk symptoms and his cravings for alcohol were gone! Nothing else he had ever experienced in his many years with alcohol treatment had come close to matching the effects of coconut oil."

[www.hippocrates.com.au]

"Yeah the broScience guy in the video (01:08:00) is creating a story of fantasy of fat being needed to get mental clarity."

Lol, fat IS most definitely, without a doubt, needed for mental clarity. Even your precious fruits have fat in them. If fats are not needed for mental clarity, why do you admit to taking EPA/DHA supplements? Fats are also very important for hormones, you know, those things that keep you biologically young.

Once again, the percentage of fat in our brain in no way indicates what the percentage of fat in our diet should be. The fact that you believe this and that you believe fats are not important for mental clarity demonstrates a lot of ignorance on your behalf. Also important for cognition and taming inflammation is your omega-3 to omega-6 ratio. You may want to keep that in mind when eating your daily two cups of nuts (on your "low-fat" diet).

"Imagine if you were actually teaching people ja ja"

They would be empowered with knowledge that can save their life and dramatically improve their health and well-being.



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fresh Wrote:
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> suncloud,
>
> yes, and it was noted and appreciated.
>
> i don't know maybe the dude in the video was
> talking about ketosis.

or maybe gluconegogenesis.

it's just not efficient imo, and his anecdote about brain clarity doesn't mean anything. it just means that his diet improved, or something else changed.

you don't see athletes depending on fat intake