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11 years ago
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481. Re: Protein
fresh Wrote:
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> what's that, this just in.....
> chat says "Some plant protein sources are
> incomplete, and most are imbalanced"
>
> (of course the "incomplete" refers to aminos that
> we don't need because they
> are synthesized from aminos that ARE the plants!)
>
Lol, not of
Forum: Living and Raw Foods Discussion (Vegan) 11 years ago
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482. Re: Protein
pborst Wrote:
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> Chat,
>
> Nice chatting with you to be sure. Plant proteins
> are complete proteins. You can get all of your
> protein requirements met, esp with legumes
> assuming enough calories. The idea that plant
> proteins are incomplete is a myth, and pretty
> easily refuted. The status of most ra
Forum: Living and Raw Foods Discussion (Vegan) 11 years ago
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483. Re: Protein
pborst Wrote:
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> Most people I tell that they are playing dumb are
> smart enough to know the difference between
> playing and saying.
You must be a really lucky person
> Yeah, a bit of revisionism, you can't say a plant
> protein is incomplete when it has amino acids, all
> of them. the most you co
Forum: Living and Raw Foods Discussion (Vegan) 11 years ago
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484. Re: Protein
pborst Wrote:
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> yeah pretty much. I said "playing dumb".
> Playing means de facto you aren't. Your comment
> since I'd already stipulated I wanted you to opt
> up with risk was a personal attack, so yeah
> splitting hairs. You made a personal comment and
> I reported it.
And as I said alread
Forum: Living and Raw Foods Discussion (Vegan) 11 years ago
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485. Re: Protein
pborst Wrote:
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> I said "playing dumb", a bit different than saying
> you are. You said you didn't know what agree to
> disagree meant. I find that hard to believe.
> Context, remember.
>
Ah I see. So in your case it's "context". And in mine "splitting hair". Yeah, right
Forum: Living and Raw Foods Discussion (Vegan) 11 years ago
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486. Re: Protein
Tamukha Wrote:
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> chat,
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> This thread was started by luvyuu in the hopes of
> getting peer reviewed data about salt and protein
> requirements on a raw regimen, a request with
> which most of us have at least tried to comply.
>
> I do hope she manages to get something relevant
> out of this thread tha
Forum: Living and Raw Foods Discussion (Vegan) 11 years ago
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487. Re: Protein
pborst Wrote:
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> You suggested getting protein for a nonvegan is
> easier than a vegan, which is not true considering
> both the completeness of the plant protein and the
> risks entailed in animal products.
Yes, I suggested that getting complete and balanced protein for a nonvegan is easier than a vegan, and as
Forum: Living and Raw Foods Discussion (Vegan) 11 years ago
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488. Re: Protein
fresh Wrote:
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> you haven't given any
Oh yes I have, you are just being forgetful. But it's no trouble, mere copy and paste from previous posts, here you are m'dear
Young VR, Pellett PL (1994). "Plant proteins in relation to human protein and amino acid nutrition" AMERICAN JOURNAL OF CLINICAL NUTRITION 59 (5 Suppl)
W
Forum: Living and Raw Foods Discussion (Vegan) 11 years ago
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489. Re: Protein
pborst Wrote:
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> My point is you did not provide complete risk to
> benefit of eating meat and oversimplified
> vegan-non-vegan protein choices.
>
And my point is simple - no one owes you an obligation to provide complete risk to benefit of eating meat, surely not when the topic concerns the info on protein, and
Forum: Living and Raw Foods Discussion (Vegan) 11 years ago
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Well done Knugs keep it strong! I know what you mean about temptations, myself I can more or less ignore the talk about cooked food, but the smell - too tempting sometimes! Sometimes I have to quickly go away to avoid it otherwise I want whatever it smells so much it makes me sad.. But, it's all for the better so all is good nonetheless
Forum: Raw Diary - Your Personal Experience 11 years ago
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WheatgrassYogi Wrote:
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> Yes, but only if they're properly prepared. Most
> Green Smoothies are really 'Fruit Smoothies' in
> disguise. My thinking now is make your smoothies
> either 'all Green' or 'all Fruit', but don't mix
> the two. This would make for easier digestion
> without Gas......WY
I read people sa
Forum: Juicing, Juicers, Blending and Blenders 11 years ago
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492. Re: Protein
pborst Wrote:
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> You are entitled to your
> opinion but not facts. My point is and was I've
> tried gracefully to reach an agreement with you to
> "agree to disagree" which you disagree to. So be
> it. Your original assertion that plant proteins
> are incomplete is in error. We've established
> that.
Forum: Living and Raw Foods Discussion (Vegan) 11 years ago
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Hey red dragon! Definitely not all Naked are raw - I think its only Cashew cookie, Pecan pie and Ginger bread which don't contain flavouring. These are the three I buy. On their website they list nutrition info and explain what they mean by 'raw':
I suspect cashews in Cashew cookies may not be raw (or they may be who knows???), oh well, they are tasty all the same!
Tesco recently had a s
Forum: Living and Raw Foods Discussion (Vegan) 11 years ago
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HH Wrote:
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> Topics are going to be repetitive in a revolving
> door forum. That's one of the draw-backs of the
> crusade. Once you've pounded your beliefs into one
> skull, another one comes along that needs
> education. Stick with it! All of you guys who
> go about this in a cool, committed way are like
> super
Forum: Living and Raw Foods Discussion (Vegan) 11 years ago
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495. Re: Protein
fresh Wrote:
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> For me, I was just making a joke, obviously,
> regarding good to go.
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> Quite a civil conversation, kudos to you, chat.
>
> although it proves once again much of the time
> humans do not get the facts and then form
> conclusions, they form conclusions and then ignore
> contrary evidence
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496. Re: Protein
pborst Wrote:
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> I'll take exception to your exaggeration chat. I
> quoted your original post, twice and bolded it
> twice since you seem to want to run from your
> original inaccurate and incorrect original
> position. But that's ok. If you want to play
> dumb about what agree to disagree means instead of
> st
Forum: Living and Raw Foods Discussion (Vegan) 11 years ago
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497. Re: Protein
THeSt0rm Wrote:
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> The only problem with sprouts is we need a secure
> source of good water. That's the only thing
> standing in my way.... Fluoride, chlorine, trace
> amounts of allopathic synthetic medicines... it's
> crazy. Our earth is becoming deficient in our
> water element (relatively speaking anyway).
Ha
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498. Re: Protein
pborst Wrote:
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> I've been trying to agree to disagree for two
> pages now sport. You want to have last word.
> Have at it, just don't make it contentious. Agree
> to disagree is just that. If you take a cheap
> shot or another ad hominem, I won't just respond,
> I will report it. Best to you.
>
> Paul
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499. Re: Protein
pborst Wrote:
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> Re: Protein
> Posted by: chat ()
> Date: June 02, 2012 03:20AM
So you've quoted and bolded my comment like three times already. Is't it really enough?
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500. Re: Protein
pborst Wrote:
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> You stated quite clearly that to satisfy protein
> needs one could do so more easily by being
> non-vegan. And you did so without characterizing
> the health risks that that path would entail. I
> never said you suggested one has to become
> nonvegan, only that if one did so, satsifying
> pro
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501. Re: Protein
John Rose Wrote:
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> Chat wrote:
> Oh No!!! Not the Peer Reviewed Argument!!!!!!
Ah sorry, yes here I'm biased I work at university where the very existence of my job revolves around peer review, so I cannot help myself
Forum: Living and Raw Foods Discussion (Vegan) 11 years ago
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502. Re: Protein
THeSt0rm Wrote:
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> Sometimes I'm not so sure about the raw vegan
> diet... My sifu once told me, that a raw food
> diet would require too much food with roughage to
> be complete, at least for the lifestyles we have
> nowadays.We aren't monkeys and our lives are not
> just food. Now we have sprouting technology. Co
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503. Re: Protein
John Rose Wrote:
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> Hey Chat,
>
> Fresh’s statement was NOT about his “own
> experience of banana eating” but was about the
> actual NUMBERS. I too have done the math long ago
> and most Plant Foods do have “Complete
> Proteins.”
>
> The 2 main points that seems to really matter here
> ar
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504. Re: Protein
pborst Wrote:
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> I will let the reader make his or her own judgment
> on your post and mine. At a minimum, you did not
> characterize the risk of the non-vegan when you
> made your statement. More's the pity. Suggesting
> that all one has to is become a non-vegan and your
> protein problems are answered is a bit
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505. Re: Protein
pborst Wrote:
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In your original post you
> said "by contrast non-vegans just eat a piece of
> meat and they are good to go"? good to go for
> what? colon cancer? risk to benefit means
> nothing if you don't look at the whole food. most
> raw food vegan sources are whole foods with
> complete proteins a
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506. Re: Protein
fresh Wrote:
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> you ignore the evidence that is offered to you.
> bananas.
> perfect proportions.
> every essential amino.
> i did the math.
> you will not believe my math.
> you need to do it yourself.
>
> do you suppose they are the only fruit on the
> planet with perfect proportions of aminos?
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507. Re: Protein
fresh Wrote:
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> something more specific might help.
Well, since you yourself have not been very specific so far, I do not really see where you have the ground requesting the specificity from me.
> FAIL.
> you came here and submitted various FACTS.
> I read the study and ask a simple question.
> you cannot answe
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508. Re: Protein
pborst Wrote:
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> You haven't produced any data to support your
> contention. I can eat enough unbalanced protein
> to meet protein needs and be fine. You have
> stipulated as much claiming it isn't optimal but
> still possible. So, your argument has changed
> from your original position. You do not need to
>
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509. Re: Protein
fresh Wrote:
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> still haven't shown what you are referring in the
> usda database to that disputes my assertions that
> meat is too high in amino acids, and unbalanced.
Erm, I am referring to the nutrient tables of various foods, in particular the amount and proportions of essential amino acids contained in those various fo
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510. Re: Protein
fresh Wrote:
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> I don't know how you would come to that conclusion
> - so quickly too!
> show me what you are referring to.
Well, I sort of knew about usda database before you came and told about it, so i had the chance to check it in advance
> I just read the study you referenced.
> All it said, from what i ca
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